The Coffee House Wall – 12th/18th August

Posted on August 12, 2013

This is the Coffee House Wall for this week. I won’t say that it is your chance to communicate with us, as we are all in this together. It is, nevertheless, the Conservative Blog post that has no particular theme, and where everything is on topic. Let’s just remember that we want to avoid ad hominem attacks on others. We don’t want to engage with trolls. We want to moderate our language ourselves as responsible and mature adults, choosing to use fruity language only where it is necessary. This is our opportunity to show what the Spectator Coffee House Wall could have been like.

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241 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 12th/18th August”

  2. If you want some idea of the collusion between big business, big media and government, Mark Carney is the perfect example.

    ‘We wanted the best man for the job so much we went abroad.’

    No.

    You couldn’t do a Mario Monti and foist a Goldman Sachs/Bildergberg puppet into elected high office, so you shoved him into the Bank of England.

    Carney is as powerful as the chancellor and is here for the take down.

    The bankers saved themselves with the first leg of the crash, but for the next leg, they are getting all their ducks in a row so that muggins the man in the street will pay.

    Having saved their skins last time, this time they will say: ‘Oh, but we thought you believed in capitalism and that banks should fail.’

    Many people do, but if you save the bankers first only to put all the retail depositors on the hook later, that’s not capitalism.

    The investor bond holders (as opposed to the retail bond holders) should have all gone bust last time.

    They didn’t. So mugginses everywhere must fear the Cyprus solution.

    And the ‘promise’ on interest rates is no such thing. It is full of caveats, so Carney can wriggle out of them.

    This is what Mark Carney did in Canada:

    ‘The Bank of Canada kept its benchmark lending rate at an historic low Tuesday, but removed a so-called conditional commitment to stay on hold through the middle of the year, signalling that it could raise interest rates as early as its next policy decision June 1.’

    Whaddya know!

    That’s what he did in Canada.

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/mark-carney-signals-interest-rates-to-rise/article4352783/

    Sold them a crock of ordure ‘promises’ not to raise interest rates, built up a housing bubble and baled to leave someone else to clean up his mess.

    Carney’s role is to help the Goldman Sachs/Bilderberg cabal co-ordinate things the way the bankers want when the next crash comes.

    The financially lawless City of London is crucial to that cabal’s money laundering operation.

    If you want to clean dirty money into the West, you take it to the City of London first.

    From there, you’re home and dry. So the governor of the Bank of England is expected to help keep that portal open from a central bank perspective.

    This is nothing to do with ‘hiring outside to get the best man for the job’.

    The cabal want their people in place so that on the final leg of the crash they are always at the steering wheel. No elections necessary.

    Unless you’re ex-Goldman Sachs banker turned non-elected prime minister Mario Monti and the public go wild and kick you out at the first opportunity (they did).

    How much nicer to walk into high office without a piffling election!

  3. I should have added that on June 1, 2010, Mark Carney did indeed raise interest rates in Canada, duly breaking a ‘promise’ not to.

    Or, as it’s politely put above: ‘removed a so-called conditional commitment’.

    Have you ever heard anything so oily?

    I do hope Mark Carney goes to lunch at some point with Keith Vaz.

    What peas in a pod they would be.

  9. Perhaps the answer to Peter’s question of August 11th 2013 – 22:41, about the antics in Egypt of John McCain is contained in this essay (no pun intended in the caption I think):

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3926/egypt-democracy

    I would only add that as the scribblings of Rousseau and his counterparts within the band of romantic philosophes during the Seven Years War, brought about the French Revolution and the subsequent evils of the Napoleonic wars; the repercussions are still with us today. Their arty-farty equivalents here and in the USA, of this era, will reverse all the gains of Nelson and Wellington (indeed, some would say it has happened already). Plus ca change …

  10. EC – Simply eye watering.

    And one or two are serious contenders for the Andy Car Park Award for Blogging Literature.

  11. EC

    Didn’t mean to pour serious shit and cold water over your (13:13), but perhaps it would have been appreciated by your reviewers of Veet?

  12. PfM

    I’ve tried previously to persuade George to identify and provide examples of the Human Rights abuses he campaigns against at Glasgow University.

    Perhaps it consists of torturing the Sconats who haunt this hotbed of seccession with the odour of their own socks, or torturing them by the application of Veet for Men to their ginger nose, facial and nether regional hair.

    We should be told…

  14. Noa (13:48)

    “And one or two are serious contenders for the Andy Car Park Award for Blogging Literature.”

    Surely you’re not suggesting that Andy Car Park didn’t write them all under various noms de plume?

  15. At Test Match Special rain is currently preventing play.
    However a poster there writes:
    “This reminds me of the formula to find your West Indies cricketer name: US president at time of birth + last British seaside town visited.

    In that case, I hand the live text duties over to Ford Bournemouth…”

    or Dwight Burnham on Sea…

  17. Noa @13:48

    I’ve been thinking about Andy Car Park’s uncanny ability to predict the appearance of John Jefferson Burns and fire off a salvo before he actually appears over the horizon.

    Then it struck me that, “Andy Car Park” is an anagram of “PC Yank Radar”

  19. Is anyone surprised that the NHS has the problem of insufficient doners? Apparantly their British ‘hosts’ do not mmet the medical requirments of black and ‘asians’ NHS users.

    The lack of minority donors is not an individual problem. It’s a situation that affects whole communities. Body tissues have racially specific characteristics, which means that transfusions and transplants are far more likely to be successful when the donor and recipient are of a similar ethnic background. If you’re black, your best tissue match will usually be black. If you’re Asian and need a transplant, you’ll probably need an Asian donor. There’s such a shortage of minority donors that less than 1.5% of blood and organ donors are black or Asian.

    This means that if you’re black or Asian, your chances of finding an unrelated matched donor are lower than if you were white.

    It’s clear that the greatest demand comes from the communities with the lowest donation rates and the hardest tissue types to match. So why is there such an acute shortage of donors?

    It’s clear that the greatest demand comes from the communities with the lowest donation rates and the hardest tissue types to match. So why is there such an acute shortage of donors?

    A recent study by NHS Blood and Transplant shows that many ethnic minorities believe that donating blood and organs is “something that white people do”. This perception is contributing to a dangerous shortage of minority donors.

    There is hope for the indigenous whites in the UK yet if we can specify that our blood and organs go to ‘community’ and ‘ethnic’ groups of our choice.

    http://www.nhs.uk/Livewell/Donation/Pages/Donationethnic.aspx

  20. EC
    I keep a weather eye but recently I have seen nothing to excite me here or on your Limey Scope.
    Glad to see you thriving and surviving.
    Noa your NHS should be shut.
    Socialist Bore Obama has been trying to emulate and it will be a disaster.
    Socialist Medicine is the prelude to takeover of our lives by the State.

  21. Oh there is one thing.
    Sex-crazed Socialist Scion Clinton is roving round Africa singing the virtues of aid and his help of the people saying it complements the Chinese.
    The poor fool.
    He is pouring good American money down a black hole and helping no one in the long term.
    He is just feeding dependency.
    The Chinese on the other hand are investing in infrastructure giving their companies a boost while giving the African Countries lasting benefit.
    God help us if his dead beat wife follows Obama.

  22. JJBurns
    Time for your afternoon Spanish lesson, preceded as usual by a go faster application of Veet.

  23. The front page dead-tree version of the Torygraph has a picture of Obama ‘letting one rip’ on the golf course – with right leg raised and orifice aimed towards the camera. He is apparently shouting “Benghazi”

    (a) as an expression of defiance to the snappers
    (b) to mask the noise of the raspberry.

    I was hoping to post it with a suitable caption, but obviously others got there before me; the DTel have now pulled it, no doubt to ease the indignity of their idol.

  26. Afganhis and the like are big on rape:

    http://www.theamericanconservative.com/routine-child-rape-by-afghan-police/

    But whereas we used to be culturally open about this, nowadays no-one will admit it, let alone make it the subject of a novel.

    This is a wonderful Victorian novel that makes the point no-one in the modern world would ever dare make.

    We’ve had some good poetry, time for some purple prose. Our hero has just seen off one rapist, but there’s another on the loose.

    http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Venus_in_India/Volume_2

    ‘Between her door and her sister’s was a passage. But I must first say I had picked up the knife my Afghan had dropped. This I held sword-like in my hand.

    ‘I opened Amy’s bedroom door suddenly and quickly, and there I saw another sight which made me sick with horror. The Afghan was apparently buggering Amy.

    ‘Apparently? Alas! no! He was actually doing it!

    ‘And like the other ruffian who I had so fortunately caught just in time to prevent any real damage being done to the suffering Fanny, this Devil’s spawn was so intent on his rich enjoyment that he did not at first notice my entry.

    ‘All took place so rapidly that I cannot attempt to imitate time in my very true history.

    ‘I dashed at the villain who withdrew his glistening black prick from poor Amy’s bottom so suddenly that it made a “pop” like a cork coming out of a bottle.

    ‘He reared himself upright, seized a long knife from off the bed where he had placed it ready for use before he had begun buggering the poor girl, and with a shout of triumphant defiance, and the expression of a fiend courting further victory, he rushed to me crying out, “Ah! Ha! Bahin chut! I eri IDa ki chut!” the gentle Hindu and savage Afghan in common, meaning that he who addresses you has defiled and fucked both your (Sister’s cunt! thy mother’s cunt! Terms of abuse used by sister and your mother.)

    ‘“I have fucked and buggered your sister—I will now bugger thee also!” In my rage I roared in reply, “I’ll be buggered if you do!” quite an unnecessary piece of bad language on my part, because had the ruffian succeeded, I, of course, would have been buggered.’

    Well, the reverse has truly happened in this century. We’ve all been b*****ed.

  28. Not just afgani, I have worked quite a lot in eygpt, and its commonplace to read in English language newspapers that so and so was arrested and taken in for questioning at the police station where he claims to have been tortured and sodomised by the police.
    Seems like being sodomised is par for the course.

  30. I’ve copied and pasted these comments I’ve seen before the Telefraud’s mods censor them:

    Headline: Number of UK attacks involving acid and other corrosive substances soars

    cbr100rr

    Oh come on, be fair….there are lots of benefits of multiculti…..good food, exchange of ideas, clothing fashion, niqbab (female/male gender unknown) , halal meat where the animal is left to die with it’s throat cut without any anaesthetic, good beat music, rape of underage girls as recommended by the good prophet, living off the state, beheadings (great family entertainment, eh?), female genital mutilation, benefit claiming for multiple fertile wifes, hate of the white man. Well, part from those minor differences, Dave says we can live in harmony…..well, that’s a relief. Phew……And there was me thinking we had a problem here.

    Point45

    Don’t you just love the wonderful diversity of Labour’s importation of hordes of barbarians to enrich us?

    I wonder if we can look forward the cultural joys of necklacing next?

    Steve999999

    This is the price our kin are having to pay for the process of breaking the nation state to support the creation of the European Union.

    When are we Brits going to fight back; this isn’t what our ancestors strived for!?

    speakthetruth77

    Stopping immigration is no longer enough. To save this country a repatriation programme is needed.

    Time is short.

    speakthetruth77

    Import people from the third world and you import standards and behaviours from the third world.

    Their treatment of animals is often vile as well.

    And they think nothing of turning their gardens into rubbish tips.

    Same_Old_Dog

    Ah, the delights of a multi-cultural society

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10238174/Number-of-UK-attacks-involving-acid-and-other-corrosive-substances-soars.html

  33. Just ruminatin’…just recalled that 41 years ago I was tiny cog in a naval deployment to Barcelona that was supposed to be the first step in a rapprochement between the British and Spanish governments, supposed to build on an unfreezing of our relationship with them over Gibraltar.

    Plus ça change…

  34. This German article is nearly a week old, and I haven’t seen any similar reports in the British Press:

    http://www.deutsche-mittelstands-nachrichten.de/2013/08/53802/

    Savers need to fear credit under 100,000 euros
    German SME News | 07:08:13, 22:55

    Translated by Google: “In the case of bankruptcy of the bank also those customers will get massive problems for which the balance to be guaranteed by the official deposit insurance. The current EU proposal provides that customers can withdraw a maximum of only 100 to 200 euro in case of a collapse of its banking daily. This state may last for up to three weeks. Anyone planning major purchases should think in time, as he will get his money.”

  36. Robert C. 2013-0059

    Covered with some (excited) analysis at ‘The Slog.3-D Bollocks deconstructed’.

  37. Robert C

    John Richardson

    Yes, The Slog has covered it all.

    The mainstream media knows what is afoot, though.

    Because – out of nowhere – it is spending £3 million and using Benedict Cumberbatch fora radio campaign for a ‘What to do if your bank goes bust’ campaign.

    Excuse me?

    Why do they need to do that?

    They say ‘to make people more aware of it’. Er, right. Perhaps they should be making people aware of what was passed on August 1. That would be closer to the truth.

    http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2388252/Elementary-advice-savers-Radio-ads-featuring-Sherlock-star-tell-seek-compensation-bank-building-society-collapses.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

  40. George Osborne seven weeks ago: “In future, taxpayers will not be called upon to bail banks out. It will be down to the creditors and the owners”.

    That is, ‘My bankster chums have got their assets nailed down, now, so this time we can let the crash happen properly, only instead of all them being on the hook the foolish savers are first in line.’

    I’m going to put all these links here in chronological order up to the present day for those who want to know how all this is being done:

    hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/global-looting-the-new-eu-bailin-law-was-passed-8-days-ago-did-you-notice/

    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/at-the-end-of-the-day-327/

    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/10/the-saturday-essay-weve-given-enough-to-the-asylum-inmates-let-them-sort-out-their-own-mess/

    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/global-looting-the-new-eu-bailin-law-was-hurried-through-alright-but-the-template-was-premeditated/

    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/global-looting-how-an-eu-regulation-can-become-a-law-without-mep-involvement/

    That one above is extremely technical (the EU loves to hide behind a fug of language) and most of it is translated very well into plain English.

    I thought he could have put one footnote in here. The line about 8% minimum is crucial because that is roughly where any bank’s Tier 1 capital hovers at (Tier 1 is the money the bank actually has in its pockets, that is, depositor money).

    That worries me.

    “11228/13 4 E

    “The Council’s compromise approach provides flexibility to national resolution authorities, subject to strict criteria and only in exceptional cases, to exclude liabilities and to use the resolution fund to absorb losses or recapitalise an institution. However, such flexibility would only be available after a minimum level of losses equal to 8% of total liabilities including own funds has been imposed on an institution’s shareholders and creditors, or under special circumstances 20% of an institution’s risk-weighted assets.”

    This is classic EC/ECB doublespeak: we will be flexible, but only after we’ve cleaned you out, dear customer: 8% of a bank’s liabilities (by the EU’s own liquidity rules alone) in a full-on bank collapse would be more than enough to wipe out ‘shareholders and creditors’ – which as of May, by some Divine Right of Banks, has been taken to mean us.

    In EU speak, ‘exceptional’ and ‘special’ both mean the same thing: ‘inevitable’.

    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/breaking-eu-bailin-law-will-move-derivatives-off-balance-sheet/

  41. Peter (08:32)

    The main asset that you have, which is certainly not only under threat, but also fast diminishing, is your country’s freedom and sovereignty.

    And they even managed to distract us (well, me, anyway) with an over-hyped and very unimpressive heavenly fireworks display in the small wee hours.

    Excellent links from all exposing the latest stage of the banking scams and the extremely shocking Helicopter disaster. Keep ’em coming.!

  42. Cigar chompin’ John Jefferson ‘Eyeballs on Springs’ Burns DCIXLLMIIIV @ August 12th 16:43

    ‘The Chinese on the other hand are investing in infrastructure’

    I think you’ll find that the Chinese are in fact investing in heavy ordnance with which to bomb your moribund apology for a country back into the Palaeolithic age – where it belongs.

  44. Talking of ‘metrosexuals, westminster bubble, msm, OQS etc’, guess what I spotted in a remainder shop the other day?

    ‘Cameron on Cameron: Conversations with Dylan Jones’ by David Cameron and (!!!) Dylan Jones. Amazon ranking 486,966 and an excruciating 352 pp.

    I am half minded actually to buy the f*cker and recite bits of it on the Wall to wind people up. Or better, splice it with a few good ol’, foot-tappin’, homespun spoofs and see who can spot the difference.

    (‘Dylan Jones.’ What does he do? Apart, presumably, from lift his shirt on demand.)

  45. Re Lee Rigby.

    R5 Live yesterday referred to his murder as him simply being ‘attacked’.

  47. Frank P@August 13th, 2013 – 12:24 et al

    Why anyone trusts their hard owned to banks is beyond me.

    I am saving into peer to peer and gold.

  49. Alexsandr: Is that actual solid bits of gold in your posession?
    And what is peer to peer? (Genuine inquiry – I’m increaingly pi**ed off at my heard-earned gathering zero interest).

  51. Party Funding …

    At the risk of luring JJB out of his lair, Joan Edwards’s half million pound legacy ‘to whoever is in government’ calls to mind the residuary bequest of Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr – to the US Government, subsequently and (then) justly described as ‘the saddest testament ever made by a human being’.

    Olly Boy, reckon you just got pipped.

  53. Noa – 13:51 ‘Hiroshima’s Lessons’

    “Professional soldiers understand the humanitarian virtue of ruthlessness. The pacifist civilian may gasp in horror at the sight of a mushroom cloud, but the professional soldier knows that the longer way around would have left every Japanese city looking far worse than Hiroshima.”

    In a small way, having half of all school leavers going to university is due to a misunderstanding of needing some to fail exams or do poorly, a ruthlessness that would have stopped many of the over educated, unemployed graduates from making the wrong choice.

    The Times has an article about it, graduate debt, that is. There is nothing that couldn’t have been forecast, unless, of course, you were a Lib Dem!

  54. Frank P – 12:08 ‘Seal Team 6’

    Karen Vaughn, one of the soldier’s Mother, comes across very well: so on target with so few words.

  55. Noa
    August 12th, 2013 – 14:13
    At Test Match Special rain is currently preventing play.
    However a poster there writes:
    “This reminds me of the formula to find your West Indies cricketer name: US president at time of birth + last British seaside town visited.
    In that case, I hand the live text duties over to Ford Bournemouth…”
    or Dwight Burnham on Sea…

    Or in my case, Franklin Lytham St Annes!

  56. Sultan has it right, the guy’s becoming Baron’s favorite observer of life.

    The two bombs dropped over Japan killed altogether, in the blast and after, some 250,000 Japanese, this is their ir Japanese own estimate. Since then, Japan hasn’t threatened anyone. Guided by a Constitution drafted by the victorious powers the country has been a noticeable contributor of gadgets that enrich and make life easier.

    Few years later, the American were fighting the communist menace in Korea, didn’t deploy the bomb in large part because ‘the world opinion’ turned against this ghastly weapon of mass destruction. The could have used it, the Russian had the bomb, lacked the delivery system. Since then, the North Korean regime killed millions. Baron quotes from an NGO’s report: ‘When the last countrywide famine ended in 1998, more than seven million North Koreans were dead’.

    Go figure.

  57. Peter fM:

    Is Baron right thinking you do not censor postings? If so why did you kick out his? It matters not, and Baron differs here and there on the consensus, but it’s just debating that we do, it has little impact on anything.

  58. So “the investor bond holders (as opposed to the retail bond holders) should have all gone bust last time”.

    If Baron gets it right, it would have been OK (it still presumably is) for people to buy bonds themselves, but if someone couldn’t afford to buy the smallest number of bonds, invested the money in a bond fund, he should have gone bust? Is that it, Ricci? Why?

    The vast number of bond holdings are on behalf and for people like us, companies that buy this financial instrument are those financial institutions like pension providers, investment, unit trusts and even banks that invest the money of the small savers. The majority of ultimate beneficiaries are the unwashed. Councils, the central government and its agencies may be also amongst those in whose name the bonds are held, (say) the Revenue gets alot of tax receipts once or twice a year, they forward the money to the spending departments gradually, hence the need to park the money somewhere before it’s is distributed.

    Talking about indebtedness, what people often forget is that the reciprocal side of the debt are the savings of the many.

  61. Ricci @ 8.35

    To get through all the links will take time, Baron hasn’t got much of this commodity, so just few points on the comments attached.

    If Jeffrey’s chums had enough time to park their assets somewhere safe (where?), shouldn’t we have done the same in the same five years?

    The most visible and also the biggest financial company that went belly up was Lehmans. Together with Goldmans, it was also the most hated of the lot, in some part because of its jewish origins. Yet it never strikes anyone why should a company that must have had the best contacts, the best staff, alot of money, the best connections with those in governance, the best everything should implode. Why them, if the cleverest, the best connected bankers are so bloody infallible?

    You see, my blogging friends, the Dutch have in one: Man can predict everything, but the future’. That applies to everyone, however high he may sit, however well he may be connected.

    Going bankrupt is an essential part of the societal economic model we are running. No physical or legal entity under capitalism has the right to opt out of the ultimate arbiter of success of failure. In the past banks have gone bust as often and as painfully as any other company or institution, and we’ve survived, and went from strength to strength, even if the individuals that made it were different from those who wanted to make it.

    And lastly, as a country we are not going to get going unless and until out banking sector is healthy, making money. Without the banking lubricant we are stuck. Trust Baron on this, he knows, he’s looked it up.

  62. Peter, thank you for the speediest of speedy replies. And an apology, Yesterday, Baron posted three bits, one after the other in quick succession, they appeared on the site after he clicked the ‘submit’ button, then the screen flicked over and each of the three postings were gone. Baron assumed the stuff went into moderation (no reason for it, but things happen).

    Glad to hear it’s not you, Peter.

  64. Frank Sutton@August 13th, 2013 – 13:00

    You can buy gold on the internet. Simple google finds sellers. Delivered by post. I don’t have a lot. I have it as a hedge so if the financial system goes tits up I still have a sellable asset.

    Peer to peer lending in the UK is done by 3 big players, Zopa, Funding Circle and Funding Knight.

    Zopa is for individuals to borrow, usually for buying cars or for loan consolidation.
    The other 2 lend to businesses. Up till now incorporated ones, but they are moving to lend to partnerships.
    The idea is wants to borrow (say) £1000. a hundred lenders agree to lend £10 each.
    But the lenders are also lending to other borrowers, so their risk is spread.

    Unlike a bank you take the risk of one of your loans going bad. But the rate on the loans is higher to take account of that risk.
    The lending and borrowing rates are close as they dont have the banks spread which they are using to build their balance sheets.
    The government deposit guarantee scheme does not cover this type of investment.
    Funding circle, Zopa and funding knight do not borrow or lend. they are just brokers. So they are not banks.
    They say they have measures in hand in case they go bust so you can still get your investment back.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer_lending

    as in any advice, caveat emptor.

  65. Baron@August 13th, 2013 – 18:14

    Banks are a fossil of the old days. I believe peer to peer will make them redundant.

  66. Frank P @ 12.24

    If something feels too good to be true …..

    Wake up, Frank, it’s a mutation of the Nigerian ‘you’ve inherited millions and all I need is a couple of thousands to get it to your account’ scam. What they want is your subscribing to the rag.

  67. TO THE LEGION OF THE LOST ONES, to the cohort of the damned, / To my brethren in their sorrow overseas, / Sings a gentleman of England cleanly bred,machinely crammed, / And a trooper of the Empress,if you please……..(KIPLING)_________Kipling’s complete poems can read at the link below. Click `Readers Guide`……..`The main works`…….Poetry,`Definitive Edition`. SEE http://www.kipling.org.uk

  68. Gentlemen-rankers out on the spree, / Damned from here to Eternity, / God ha’ mercy on such as we, / Baa! Yah! Bah!

  69. PfM –
    At the risk of discovering that I am in fact losing my marbles., can I ask: Was there a short article (not a blog post) – unsigned, as far as I remember – on the Wall earlier today – about midday – which is no longer there? It would have been above Patriccia Shaw’s NHS piece and, I think, above this week’s wall.
    Maybe I just imagined it…

  72. Baron (18.29)

    Fully awake M’Lord (despite the Perseiden shower-watch). Just sussing out the ‘financial experts’ hereabouts. Surprised you’re the only one, given all this talk of Mammon of late. As, like Peter, my investment potential is zero – in fact somewhat less than that, I am in no danger of swallowing any bait. But thanks for the alarm call anyway. 😉

  74. Baron 18:29 – Once I kept one of those Nigerian scuzballs on the correspondence thread for around three months, with daily communications. It was great fun.

    I wrote of my gratitude to him writing to me for help in banking his fortune, but said he really shouldn’t have chosen a high profile Hollywood star such as me to write to for help as my vast fortune was handled by accountants.

    I kept a little meme running through our constant communications that I was thinking of changing the firm of accountants that handlede my fortune as I had heard one of them say he didn’t like my last movie.

    Needless to say, by return zap, I got a letter of commiseration saying that it must be hard to work with someone who didn’t appreciate one’s work, whereas he, the Nigerian correspondent, had seen all my movies and was awestruck by my acting talent.

    I interspered idle chatter about my fortune with complaints about the girl who did my nails. I also said I was fed up with my hairdresser and was looking around for someone who could appreciate my high cheekbones.

    Oddly enough, he had a relative who was an ace hairdresser and would be proud to work on my hair exclusively, but the US Immigration were such meanies.

    Anyway, you get the idea. I actually kept this going for around two months before it got too stale to bother with any more. I wrote saying I was marrying the new man who did my nails.

  75. Surprised Paxo’s new image hasn’t sparked debate. From equine to caprine in a week or so. Perhaps he thinks the adapted physiognomy makes him look professorial – and that we’ll take him more seriously?

  76. Frank P at 19-33 . If I have it right,you may be on the verge of insulting XXX along with XXX and Pope Shenouda—–who’se got enough trouble with Churches being Attacked and his flock (as young as ten year old girls) being murdered.

  78. PfM: I am losing marbles – it was on another site altogether. Oh well, memory itch scratched!

  79. Radford NG (19.51)

    Not on the verge of anything; just ‘aving a go at the Newsnight poseur, aka Professor Paxo.

  80. Verity @ 19.16

    You’re on top of things, well educated, extensively travelled, clever and stuff, others less so.

    Alot of conmen are still around. Not that long ago, Baron got a letter (sender’s address, tel number, e-mail address the Full Monty) from a Chinese saying he’s a bank clerk, is dealing with a bank account and a deposit box of a man who recently died in China, amongst many items in the deposit box there also was Baron’s name, but not Baron’s address. The clerk took it on himself to search for it (as a favour) because he knew the account, deposit box would be seized by the Government unless Baron took steps to recover the stuff. Baron was asked to contact the man, warned not to tell anyone unless he (Baron) wanted the man sacked.

    Baron didn’t respond, wanted to contact the police, but the Boss advised against approaching the the law. What do you think, Verity, a right decision or not?

  81. Alexsandr @ 18.29

    If banking’s fossilised then peer-to-peer lending is pre-fossil. No, my blogging friend, banking may be hated, seen as parasitic and stuff, it still is both the most efficient and most secure and safe mode of shifting vast amounts of capital around.

    Incidentally, did you know that up to as late as the Victorian times, one could buy a mortgage as a source of investment income? It got abandoned, too. It was found to be riskier than putting the cash into a bank account or a building society.

  82. Baron, I have experienced so many of these tall tales — I only ever went along with the one I described above, and that was motivated by malice — giving the swindler what he was planning to hand out to others — usually I just dump them.

    But I did have a good time swindling that African swindler into thinking he’d struck gold with a Hollywood star.

  84. ‘Baron
    August 13th, 2013 – 21:44

    Verity @ 19.16

    You’re on top of things, well educated, extensively travelled, clever and stuff, others less so. ‘

    Huuuum.

    Verity, Baron……a confession.

    This is not easy for me to blog……….

    I….
    I have…..
    I have been a victim of these internet scams.
    Yes I.
    A few months ago I got an e-mail from my old Priest in Guernsey. A young Polish Priest. He had a superb Confirmation Program. I saved all the different aspects for use at my next Parish but anyway…..
    I left Guernsey about two years ago.
    Now, a while back I received an e-mail from him explaining that his sister was very ill (details of illness explained) in Spain and that the hospital refused to operate without payment. Now, the thing is that the style of writing in the e-mail was exactly the same as Father Stan. I read the e-mail at my desk at school. Didn’t have the time nor inclination to telephone him or even properly reply to the request at that time. I said I would send something and contact him later to find out exactly what the situation was (he’d explained he was requesting sums from various people and did not know exactly how much he needed from each person).
    Soooo, I sent off £200 at lunch and later that week sent him an e-mail to see if he’d received the money. He’d explained that he was traveling to Spain and might be hard to get hold of for a while. So, no reply; no problem. Anyway, I assumed he would have other things on his mind.
    All I…sigh…all I wanted to know was if he’d raised the necessary amount or if instead he needed more/the rest.

    Yep.
    I was that (thick and gullible)soldier.

    So, when eventually he responded….well…imagine my surprise.

    The thieves had hacked my e-mail account and read through my correspondence. They had imitated the style of his off-English. Further, MSM reports at the time did indeed accuse Spanish Hospitals of various similar activities.

    You see Baron?
    If only I was ‘on the top of things ‘n stuff’ like Verity, then none of this would have happened.

    So not only am I suckered, it turns out I was suckered by either incompetent or just-about-to be-arrested-and-so-unlucky thieves.
    I’d sent the money via Western Union to the address in Spain provided (just around the corner from the Hospital you see. You see???? Why won’t you seeeeeeee).
    Anyway.
    After the Priest had cleared things up a week or two had passed and, for some reason, I wondered if the money had actually been collected. Went to Western Union. No money had been collected. Gave them my details and they gave me my £200 (I think the costs were about £40 paid by the suck…er the sender).

    So.
    I feel better after that confession to you. Somewhat ironic that because…….oh, you can provide that Priest/confession punchline yourself.

    So what have I learned, I know you’re eager to know.

    1) be more ‘on top of things like Verity’. (Whatever that means. Apparently she is bossed around by her cats)

    2) Never. Never. Never never never trust the Spanish! If it comes to it; let the patient die!

    Now you two, I’d appreciate a little tact on this issue. I DO have a certain reputation to maintain you know…….

  85. I spoke too soon – apparently Paxo’s beard is the headline on the front page of the DTel.
    We really are into the silly season.

  87. ‘It’s about facial equality…the beard community…We just run a false beard up the flagpole…It’s the beard pride parade…’

    Yo Wallsters! At last I’ve found a community I can identify with, even if, as it includes Paxo, why would I want to be a member of it?

  88. John Richardson.

    John-I’m sure that one day you will find a suitable community too. It may not be Spanish, Polish or Catholic though.

  89. All that we all need to know about beards is encapsulated by the dangerous lefty Keith Flett.

    Flett has written and edited a number of history books. He has also written for the left-wing newspaper the Socialist Worker and is an active supporter of the Socialist Workers Party. He is convenor of the London Socialist Historians Group and the president of the Haringey Trades Council.

    Flett is the ‘organiser’ of the Beard Liberation Front (which campaigns against the trend of New Labour politicians removing their facial hair to show a more moderate, presentable, image to the public).

    There is if course the anti-snogging aspect that you dear Noa would not appreciate.

  90. I also know someone who fell for one of these scammers. In a big way. He received an email from someone very important, and being flattered to have been singled out, and sworn to secrecy, he sought no advice from others and sent £1000 into the ether. (It was not me).

  92. Three churches have already been burned down today by the Muslim Brotherhood in Sohag, Minya and Fayoum, with little or no police intervention. Why is the BBC choosing not to report the sustained violence perpetrated by the Muslim Brotherhood against the Christian community?

    [Now there are 11 churches under attack]

  93. An insight into BBC impartiality? On Today this morning, Baroness Faulkner, speaking about Egyptian forces attacking Muslim Brotherhood protest camps, said something which made the BBC interviewer ask, in aghast tones,”You mean you’re on the side of the government?!”
    (The Baroness assured him she wasn’t.)

  95. Here is a report on today’s violence by the Anglican Bishop of Egypt. It seems very measured and is written by someone who is there…

    Dear Friends,

    Greetings in the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

    As I write these words, our St. Saviour’s Anglican Church in Suez is under heavy attack from those who support former President Mursi. They are throwing stones and Molotov cocktails at the church and have destroyed the car of Rev. Ehab Ayoub, the priest-in-charge of St. Saviour’s Church. I am also aware that there are attacks on other Orthodox churches in Menyia and Suhag in Upper Egypt (photo above), as well as a Catholic church in Suez. Some police stations are also under attack in different parts of Egypt. Please pray and ask others to pray for this inflammable situation in Egypt.

    Early this morning, the police supported by the army, encouraged protestors in two different locations in Cairo, to leave safely and go home. It is worth mentioning that these protestors have been protesting for 6 weeks, blocking the roads. The people in these neighborhoods have been suffering a great deal—not only these people, but those commuting through, especially those who are going to the airport. The police created very safe passages for everyone to leave. Many protestors left and went home, however, others resisted to leave and started to attack the police. The police and army were very professional in responding to the attacks, and they used tear gas only when it was necessary. The police then discovered caches of weapons and ammunition in these sites. One area near Giza is now calm, but there is still some resistance at other sites. There are even some snipers trying to attack the police and the army. There are even some rumors that Muslim Brotherhood leaders asked the protestors in different cities to attack police stations, take weapons, and attack shops and churches.

    A few hours later, violent demonstrations from Mursi supporters broke out in different cities and towns throughout Egypt. The police and army are trying to maintain safety for all people and to disperse the protestors peacefully. However, the supporters of former President Mursi have threatened that if they are dispersed from the current sites, they will move to other sites and continue to protest. They also threatened to use violence. There have been a number of fatalities and casualties from among the police as well as the protestors, but it seems that the numbers are not as high as expected for such violence. However, the supporters of former President Mursi claim that there are very high numbers of casualties. The real numbers will be known later on.

    Please pray that the situation will calm down, for wisdom and tact for the police and the army, for the safety of all churches and congregations, and that all in Egypt would be safe.

    May the Lord bless you!

    +Mouneer

  96. No doubt Jeremy Bowen will be covering these attacks in detail for the BBC and we shall get a full report later today. And without doubt the Israelis are to blame for being so intransigent and building all those settlements. Then there’s that video about the life of Mo; they have plenty of good reason to attack Christian Churches and it’s most unfair that the democratically elected ‘Mursi’ has been ousted by this wicked coup d’etat; he should be reinstalled forthwith so that the Muslim Brotherhood can expedite their project.

    Lord have Mursi upon us … but then, He works in mysterious ways, so we’ll have to wait for the mysteries to unfold, as we are not worthy, or capable of seeing but a blink into the passage of the future, nor sufficiently sapient to grasp the Great Scheme of Things. Have faith … all will be well. 😉

  97. In a ludicrous piece entitled “The Muslim Brotherhood’s fight for existence”, over on Trolltopia, Shiraz Maher opines: “It’s too soon to know how many protesters were killed after the army forcibly dispersed protesters”

    I tried to post this retort …
    “Rubbish, the answer is easy: “Not enough!” ”

    … but it was rejected:

    Obviously the ‘moderator’ is back from hols, as for the past couple of weeks I have been posting successfully, occasionally. Heh, heh, heh.

    The idea that the Muslim Brotherhood is under threat of extinction is about as deluded as saying that Communism was crushed when the Berlin Wall came down and Moscau imploded for a brief spell.

    Both projects are equally alive and flourishing, interwoven into every infrastructure of The West and, moreover, in unholy alliance. A few useful idiots topped by the Army in Gypo-land won’t alter that stark fact. Are the Speccy scribblers really that stupid? Or is it part of the ploy to garner sympathy for Islam? Or perhaps to create a false sense of security? “Don’t worry folks the MB are on the run.”

    Taqiyya! aka, Bollocks!

  98. P. f M. 12:36pm

    ‘Why is the BBC choosing not to report the sustained violence perpetrated by the Muslim Brotherhood against the Christian community?’

    Because the extermination of Christianity is the policy.
    Not just abroad. The Muslim Brotherhood has been a tool of the NWO since MI6/western Intelligence invented it. Ask the Egyptians or the Afghans (Airlift of evil).

    Some have identified this aspect of the NWO for years and years and years.

    These days (with Cameron & Haig determined to openly arm the Christian killers in, for example, Syria) it is almost impossible to honestly deny the ‘crazy conspiracy theory’ that western intelligence is behind this policy.

    Even the illiterate Egyptian mob has ‘got it’ they draw graffiti with Obama with a beard and a bomb. They know who is behind the Brotherhood.
    They geddit and they have hardly been to school.
    You need to be very highly qualified, knowing and sophisticated (hope it’s clear I’m not referring to you in any way here) to be able to ignore the role of western intelligence in slaughtering the Christians of Syria, or Iraq or Libya.

    Why does anyone imagine we are not next?

    The heroic SAS bravely supply the Christian killers in Syria. Why wouldn’t they supply these same killers a couple of hours flight North? Why not?

    (Remember that Italian who was told he was unable to become an EU. Commissar because he was a Roman Catholic? I do, You may well; but The Church seems to have forgotten. Obaminationcare makes it a criminal offense to be a Roman Catholic nurse or Doctor (explicitly removes right to not kill the unborn even in ”Catholic’ Hospitals). Point is the NWO policy is global. Not every Christian has a Putin to defend them.)

    For me the real problem is answering the tricky question who actually deserves to survive?

    Those Jewish people who refused to read the Bad News in newspapers, refused to listen to their relatives, refused to listen to disturbing speeches, refused to recognise the obvious historical precedents, preferred not to delve into ‘M. K.’ because it was too upsetting, refused to listen to dark and frightening ‘conspiracy theories’ regardless of the evidence all around them and instead decided that doing anything that they were told no matter what it was and relying upon the fact that they lived in a ‘civilised country’, they were all slaughtered.
    Well, obviously they were.
    They obeyed the orders of a hate filled genocidal regime.

    So, the BBC is not reporting the extermination of Christianity because the extermination of Christianity is policy and Christians, in the main, can be depended upon to continue voluntarily funding the BBC with their own money.

    These Christians can be depended upon to continue cheering the Heroes who are supplying the rapists who decapitate Christians in North Africa.

    These Christian will never stop funding the BBC no matter how many ‘Jerry Springer The Operas’ they show.

    These Christians will give their own money to dangerous bastard scumbags who tell them to ‘prepare for Sharia law’. Yes, they will.

    They will send their defenseless children to schools that organise abortions for 12 year olds and promote perversion. They will never complain.

    These Christians will vote for men who (over rule Judges i think to…) put pedophile teachers back into the class room.
    (Y’know, what if one of the 100s of images that teacher had was of a child IN HIS CLASS. What then? I mean all the children had to be in some school somewhere sometime. His ‘right’ to be their teacher would still be defended by Gove I suppose.)
    This is who these Christians will vote for. Who can doubt that they will arrive in good time at the station with two days food and light clothing? After all, they will be evacuated for their own protection.

    For sober and realistic Christians the BBC is the least of our concerns. Not funded those swine since 2000. It’s the other fricking Christians that get me worried.

    It worries me when I ask myself ‘Do they deserve to survive?’

    Regs.

  100. A man died and went to Heaven. As he stood in front of the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, ‘What are all those clocks?’
    St. Peter answered, ‘Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone who has ever been on earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie, the hands on your clock move.’
    … ‘Oh’, said the man. ‘Whose clock is that?’
    ‘That’s Mother Teresa’s’, replied St. Peter. ‘The hands have never moved, indicating that she never told a lie.’
    ‘Incredible’, said the man. ‘And whose clock is that one?’
    St. Peter responded, ‘That’s Mrs Thatcher’s clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that she told only two lies in her entire life.’
    ‘Where’s David Cameron’s clock?’ asked the man.
    St Peter replied, ‘We are using it as a ceiling fan.

  101. John Richardson
    August 14th, 2013 – 15:43
    The so-called Christian West is full of self-hatred. So determined to show that they present the other cheek, and are liberals in all other ways, they accept the barbarians and by non-action support their evil. The so-called Palestinians are screaming to have a state of their own. What, yet another place where an Arab Spring can arise with murder and mayhem? Hundreds of terrorists, mostly murderers are released by Israel, but this will not satisfy the liberal West. Frank Gardiner had his legs blown off by arab terrorists, but his heart belongs to the Moslem Brotherhood. Others, BBC commentators such as the ‘Angel of Death’ Orla Guerin and the bloated Simpson are all on the bandwagon. No where is free of the barbarians. Even this CHW has been infected by one of the biggest antisemitic, anti Christian professional bloggers. Why is she here? Because we must demonstrate how we can turn the other cheek and are so-so-civilised.

  102. Anne, I am not sure that the problem is the desire to turn the other cheek. Rather there is a fundamentally atheistic or at best deistic strain within some “christian” groups that leads them to make the Church no more than a social and political organisation with a vague religiosity about it.

  103. Peter from Maidstone
    August 14th, 2013 – 17:20
    Peter, I’m no expert, but I don’t consider them Christians or believers of the Lord G-d. You strike a valid note when you state the Church is no more to them than a social and political organisation. I have always admired the philosophy of Matthew Arnold, and have high regard for his muscular Christianity. With the schoolgirl abortions taking place, which John Richardson mentions, I fail to see even a vestige of religiosity among these people.

  105. Unfortunately a large proportion of Anglican clergy, including bishops, do not believe in the central tenets of the Christian faith and are too clever for the faith that nourished generations of English. And I say that as someone with a great deal of affection, respect and involvement with Anglican clergy and laity. It is not helped that the Synod is modelled on a Parliament and attracts those who want a semi-professional career in church politics.

  106. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    August 14th, 2013 – 17:14

    Hi Anne,

    If we imagine the spokes of a wheel; then along one spoke your analysis is obviously correct. I agree with you and the facts you present are plain for all to see (we could both add more facts to this ‘spoke’).

    Yet again, if we pursue another ‘spoke in this wheel’ we see that ‘the west’ has invaded, destroyed subverted and truly terrorised other Islamic nations.
    Who knows how many innocent children have been murdered by drone strikes in Pakistan? Arms blown off. Blinded. Paralysed.
    Certainly the number will be 10,20,50 times those killed by the 7/7 bomb in London (though as you may recall I regard that as an MI5 bomb based on non-BBC sources).

    If you read a recent American Special Forces Officer’s suicide note (I’ll dig out the ref. if you want it) you might even agree that what went on a Abu Ghraib was ‘just another day’ for western forces in that theater.
    The sexual torture of women and children (in front of their husbands/fathers) by American forces is certainly worse than anything the SS were responsible for as sexual torture was not OFFICIAL policy. Indeed raping Jewish children in ’43 would ordinarily have got you shot, not promoted.

    The terror war being conducted by ‘the west’ is so evil that huge numbers of American soldiers simply commit suicide when confronted with who they have become. Many more die this way than die fighting for….whatever it is they are fighting for. The only reason anyone can say for certain that any western soldier is fighting in Afghanistan, for example, is to farm the heroin.
    If ‘the stress of combat’ caused men to blow their brains out in those numbers, then how come Israeli paras weren’t all topping themselves after Yom Kippur?
    German troops in WW1 were not ‘rotated out of the line’. Not only were they gassed and shot but they were often short of food. Massive suicide culture? Nein.
    Our society will pay for this and we deserve to.

    ‘The so-called Christian West is full of self-hatred. So determined to show that they present the other cheek, and are liberals in all other ways, they accept the barbarians and by non-action support their evil….’

    The PTB, they declare they are NOT Christian. At least that much is true. They slaughter the innocent abroad (and in the woods?) and talk like 12 year old on the television. They say….
    ‘We want Afghanistan to be ‘democratic’ with ‘women’s rights’.
    It’s all b.s. AWK1.
    You are deceived. The PTB will happily slaughter us all.
    They are using cultural and religious sectarianism to obscure the construction of the evil NWO.
    Homosexual marriage.
    Wind farms.
    Paternity leave.
    Arab Spring.
    NHS sex changes.
    Illegal immigrants in £4000 per week mansions.
    Liverpool Care Pathway.
    etc etc
    They do not believe in any of these things any more than we do.
    They are designed to generate a febrile hate filled confusion in society that allows it to be shattered by it’s own constituent elements. Then reconstructed as the New world they have wanted since before 1789.

    The MSM, all radio, all newspapers are charged with promoting this ongoing confusion and it always works if we decide to expose ourselves to it.

    I have never met anyone -directly or online- who has decided to expose themselves to daily doses of tv without it having various terrible and obvious effects.
    Every single friend or family member I have who allows tv into their lives every day is dissociative. Children. Army Officers. Teachers. Pensioners. Nottingham Forest fans it makes no difference.

    First they are angry, then they despair and then they hate Muslims (except Muslim friends and colleges. Obviously.).
    No-one is immune.
    An example.
    You mention Orla Guerin.

    It simply must be 10 years since i last heard that twisted ***** but look…I’m virtually swearing already!
    That voice.
    That dull knowing drawl.
    Without doubt she has achieved something in managing to extract all humanity from her Irish accent, that ain’t easy. She had suicide eyes as I recall. Dirty, overhanging and hard. Self obsessed accusing eyes ‘agree with me or you are bad and wrong’. I wouldn’t turn my back on her after a few drinks. I would not leave her alone with children (nothing sexual). I certainly would not ask her opinion about….well anything whatsoever.

    Why ask her into my home and my head to tell me about ‘life and death’ matters that are very important to me and about which I care deeply????????

    Y’know a shared secret near favorite of ours (the fat vain one from sausage land; H.G.) said in ’18 after the collapse, ‘No-one can enslave us unless we let them’.

    If we turn to Orla Guerin for our information we probably deserve what we get.

    Kind Regs Anne.

  107. John Richardson
    August 14th, 2013 – 19:04
    Dear John.

    A lot of information to absorb. I haven’t the computer for a few hours, so will be responding to you later tonight (in the wee hours).
    Regards,
    Anne

  111. Been studying what you wrote, and agree with most of it. There are certain things I am not so sure about. The suicide rate, which is high, of US service personnel. Could argue that it depends on the individual material of personnel, their motivation for joining the military, depth of religious and patriotic belief and so many other details. Are personnel ‘softer’ than they were in earlier generations, more sensitive to the

  112. Continued: morality of their cause? Sorry, but erased a lot of carefully thought out response. War brings out terrible attitudes and while it is difficult to know what is actually fact and what is propaganda, there is no doubt that terrible things happen on both sides. I am sorry, John, that your well thought out posting is receiving this poor apology for a reply. Finding it difficult to formulate what I want to say and don’t want to fall back on platitudes.

  113. Hi Anne,

    Just this moment ‘checked in’ and I see you have responded.

    ‘Finding it difficult to formulate what I want to say and don’t want to fall back on platitudes.’

    This is my ‘fault’ as the rambling eclectic post of mine is not really a blog friendly effort but I’m glad you read it. What you write above is actually v important. I think we (the remnants of western civilisation) are under attack from multiple sides at once. Why should we have the language the time and disposition to fight off the swine all at once? Why would anyone ever develop such an intellectual ability? Has anybody? If they have I’ve not yet come across her/him? This is especially so for ‘real thinkers’ who abhor cliches & platitudes.

    Instead it’s a sort of ‘sniper shot’ effort. One day we might focus on violent crime, another NHS abuse or cultural decay.

    It’s hard to keep up and whenever I suggest we simply extend the summer holiday by a few weeks so that I can properly blog the world to rights people say….well…people can be cruel AWK1. And rude.

    Regs.

  114. I see we now have a new phobia to become accused of “‘phobic” about. Any who protests will be accused of phobobia.
    Paxo: He’s always talked like one, now he looks like one.

  115. I know that there are more weighty issues of the day that are more worthy of your attention but ….. BASTARDS!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-23694438

    There are excellent cycle paths in Surrey built at huge public expense (eg. Kingston to Esher) but the spandex clad, helmet cammed, Nazis prefer to harangue motorists as the weave in and out of the traffic. I wish someone would grab one of these f*ckers off their bike and give them a colonoscopy with their own helmet cam.
    GRRR!

    File under: cyclists, nazis, organ donors, victim status (unearned moral superiority via) , metrosexuals, LibDems, Veet, OQS etc.

  118. John Richardson August 14th, 2013 – 19:04

    “Certainly the number will be 10,20,50 times those killed by the 7/7 bomb in London (though as you may recall I regard that as an MI5 bomb based on non-BBC sources).”

    I stopped reading your extremely long and convoluted post after reading the above nonsense.

    What possible source do you have that enables you to make the silly claim that the 7/7 bombings (plural not singular) were not the work of deluded Muslim killers but rather the work of our very own MI5?

  120. This comment from an Egyptian commentator…

    What will be interesting is to see how much attention is paid by the same American and European political leaders – who responding to disturbing television images, cannot resist criticizing the government and the armed forces – to the minister of interior’s announcement Wednesday night that 43 policemen were killed and more than 140 wounded. This came among the 21 police stations attacked upon the orders of the MB, the band that successfully stormed the Kerdesa police station (not far from the Giza pyramids), not only killed the policemen on duty there but mutilated their bodies.

  121. I am sure that Mr Richardson is a thoroughly decent bloke who tips his hat to the ladies and is kind to his dog but, blogging-wise, the genius Wilhelm surely got it right when he described him as a cross between Stanley Unwin and L Ron Hubbard.

  122. Hello Mr Ossit.

    If you stopped reading then why write to request evidence?

    You will forgive me, but that really does come across as though you have a ‘BBC’ mind:-
    It’s very common.
    Y’know…..

    ‘I know that the BBC lies to me about everything but WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAMIC TERRORISM THEY ALLOW ME TO INDULGE MY INFANTILE HATREDS SO I BELIEVE EVERY FRICKING WORD WITHOUT SEEKING ANY ALTERNATIVE SOURCES WHATSOEVER.’

    I’m not shouting, the emphasis is so that you don’t miss the important element. Well, important for you after all, you’ve failed to figure it out so far and you’ve had several years.

    I have sited direct sources of IMPECCABLE authority in respect of this issue.

    I seriously doubt it is worth doing so again for you as, well, see above.

    Admit it, you have the above identified ‘BBC mind’.

    You believe every single word they say in relation to DOMESTIC terrorist mass murder.

    Therefore, your thoughts and opinions on the subject are not actually your own; they are somebody elses. Whoever decided the journalistic/political line.

    Therefore again, it would be pointless providing here direct sources for you to look up yourself as you would not do it. Whoever’s mind it is you ‘think’ about this issue with;; would assure you ‘nothing to see move along, hate the Muslims,trust the telly, the telly is your lifetime companion, teacher and friend’.

    If I’m wrong about you getting all your info from the BBC although you know they lie about everything else, then I am most sincerely sorry as that is a real insult to anyone with a mind.
    I have little doubt that I am wrong though, as 77 is one of the more obvious false flags of recent years and few ‘BBC minds’ would have read this far and none would ever want to suffer the pain of thinking.

  123. John Richardson
    August 15th, 2013 – 12:08

    Cut out the bollocks and print the links to your evidence.
    Simple.
    We all know there is a confusing world out there, but to try to make sense of it you need facts.

  124. Joan Bakedwell, the late Harold Pinter’s erstwhile bit of over-the-side totty (once described, if I remember correctly as the “thinking man’s crumpet’), hosted a debate this morning on BBC’s Radio Four, which was 45 minutes of Islamic propaganda thinly disguised as a discussion about Medical Ethics. The dilemmas discussed were extremely interesting but the underlying theme (and intention) was relentless: what a wonderfully wise and comforting book is the Q’ran! Allahu Akbar!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03859mg

    drip … drip … drip … (pun intended)!

    One does wonder why the same discussion couldn’t have been based on a paradigm of a harrowing case of Mrs Carney, an elderly indigenous lady from up the road on the East Acton estate; but of course that could hardly happen, could it? It’s very unlikely that she would have been afforded the facilities of ICU for almost a year at the insistence of her family; in fact it’s more likely that she would have died on a trolley in the corridors of A & E.

    Incidentally, a throw-away line in the script shocked me somewhat. Ariel Sharon is still alive after 7 years in a permanent vegetative state. I thought he had died years ago, so I checked:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon

    Apparently he’s still responding to stimuli such as the voice of his son and photos of his family.

    Hang in there Ariel, the demographics will get you in the end, even if the reaper doesn’t first, but for the time being – what a stayer! Hope he’s a living metaphor of Israel.

    The existential permutations of possibilities thrown up by the modern mechanics of medical science (and Islamic creep) are horrifying, aren’t they?

  125. Andy Car Park (12.04)

    And talking of Wilhelm … can’t someone invite him across? I know his brand of coffee is a bit strong on the palate sometimes, but he can be very amusing with it.

    As ‘Patriccia Shaw’ has made it through the filter here now (apparently suitably adapted), I’m sure Wilhelm could percolate here as well. He could dilute it a little to avoid the host’s wrath, I’m sure.

    If you are a-lurking Willy, give it a go!

    Don’t get me wrong Patriccia, I enjoy you new personna, but you must forgive me for being somewhat sussy; that moniker is is a rather unfortunate choice, you must admit, given its checkered history.

  126. John birch
    August 15th, 2013 – 12:47

    Cut out the bollocks and look for yourself. You’re not the boss of me and i don’t care to guide you, whoever you are.
    I don’t care if you want to rely on the BBC even though you know they lie to you.

    You’ve had years and years. Have you been too busy?

    Don’t kid yourself it’s my responsibility.

  131. John Richardson
    August 15th,

    John, you seem a bit obsessed with the BBC and I am sure we have some shared opinions on them.
    But there are many lines of information that exist between the BBC at one end and David’s reptiles at the other. !!!
    And we have many interests in them.
    Come back to what you consider proof it was MI5.

  132. In May 2009 Migrationwatch published a briefing note identyfying that ‘the money sent home by immigrants is seldom mentioned but should now be added to the debate about the economic gains and losses of massive levels of immigration. It has increased sharply in the last ten years as immigration has risen. It now amounts to over £4 billion a year. This is £11 million a day.’

    If the upward trend of the graph in the study has been consistant the deficit through this gate is now likely to be £6 billion plus per year or £18 million per day.

    http://www.migrationwatchuk.org/briefing-paper/1.23

    Does anyone know of any other, more recent studies on this area?

  133. Noa
    August 15th, 2013 – 16:02

    This was allways going to be the fly in the ointment ,just as foriegn business owners of our company’s syphon the profits home.
    If the money leaves the country and is not invested or spent here, where’s the Benifit other than employment .

  134. I have a new neighbour who I suspect is polish .
    After two weeks he went home to wherever he came from with his wife and child. ( seems a nice young family. He works, she’s at home with their young son )
    After 3 weeks away he’s back with a guy who’s living in a tent in the garden while he’s building a nice new fitted kitchen in his house.
    Very little cash going into our economy.

  137. John birch
    August 15th, 2013 – 14:50

    John Richardson
    August 15th,

    ‘John, you seem a bit obsessed with the BBC and I am sure we have some shared opinions on them.’

    The BBC have done more damage to this country than Hitler’s bombs.

    ‘But there are many lines of information that exist between the BBC at one end and David’s reptiles at the other. !!!’

    No doubt, but when we look at where we are today (from arming heart eating savages who kill Christians in Syria to gay ‘marriage’ at home) the awful truth is that the spectrum of interpretation that should run from ‘cogent’ to ‘insane’ is simply not as lengthy as it should be!

    The nutters are running the country.

    My point is that extraordinary claims that seem insane are ‘on the table’ as it were.

    It’s not enough to say as an ex Army/Secret Service friend of mine still does, ‘But this is England. That couldn’t happen here’, I’m not suggesting that that is your view but I don’t know that it is not and it is very common view.

    ‘And we have many interests in them.
    Come back to what you consider proof it was MI5.’

    MI5/Special Branch/CIA/NSA.
    I regard these as different constituent elements of the same mafia type organisation (they compete internally but present the same face to all outside their world).

    I’m not trying to ‘prove’ anything to you in the same way that you are not attempting to disprove what I might say (ps what could any ‘proof’ look like?).

    As you said, ‘We all know there is a confusing world out there, but to try to make sense of it you need facts.’

    We need to be prepared to find them ourselves and recognise them when we see them.
    For example a direct contradiction in the ‘official story’ that cannot be explained by any reasonable means demonstrates that the story has been concocted.

    A specific example regarding 7/7 is that the train the men were supposed to have traveled on to get to London was actually delayed that morning (7:20am from memory).

    It did not leave it’s Northern station in time for the men to have got where they were supposed to be when they were supposed to be there.
    Simple.
    Another example;the only security image of the men together (used on the BB….er …used by the MSM) is a clumsy photo shop effort. One man’s leg disappears and reappears behind an iron railing. It is plain to see.

    I am reluctant to dig out a host of ref.s for you. Though I would be prepared to do this if I knew you would pursue and read them. Hope you don’t take this the wrong way but it would take me ages. I’m basically idle whenever I get the chance and I’ve done this on blogs before & wasted my time.
    No offense intended.

    You can try

    ‘7/7 Ripple effect’

    There are numerous versions on ‘Youtube’.
    Don’t be fooled by low ‘view’ counts. They are altered. ‘Ripple effect’ was massive outside the MSM.
    This does NOT count as the impeccable sources I cited above as that would take me much longer to dig out (idle see).

    However, there is most certainly enough to be getting along with (some ripple effect versions a re 2:22hrsa long I’m afraid but worth wading through).

    Regs.

  140. Frank P

    Danke schon for that link. One always enjoys a Steyn or two, if nothing else it will help to flush out those drains.
    One statistic I do remember reading in America alone was that a typical battalion of 1,000 German soldiers in Afghanistan was likely to have fathered 84 children, its Taliban counterpart 8,400.

  141. Frank P

    Alnwick & Barter Books: most enjoyable.

    Can almost imagine you’re actually in Great Britain, if you know what I mean…

  142. Frank P & Malfleur Aug 13th

    Re-Benghazi and Navy Seals: no matter one’s views, grudging admiration for the way the situation is controlled such that these two horrific events are being manipulated so as not to cause anything more than a wee midge bite for the top Democrats.

    Stunningly well-controlled.

  143. John Richardson August 15th, 2013 – 12:08

    Your reply to my post on August 15th, 2013 – 09:41 does not answer my reasonable request for your source EG,

    “What possible source do you have that enables you to make the silly claim that the 7/7 bombings (plural not singular) were not the work of deluded Muslim killers but rather the work of our very own MI5?”

    What it does do, is to first spell my name incorrectly (I believe that you intended this as a deliberate slight) and then at great length you give me a rude patronising lecture in which you assume that I am little more than an uneducated dimwit or else some kind of feebleminded idiot.

    Thus proving what I have long suspected that your posts are verbose in the extreme and that you are as our American cousins would put it, full of shit.

    If you wish to retain any credibility here; then do answer the simple question, what possible source do you have?

  144. David Ossitt.

    I would not spell a person’s name incorrectly to ‘slight’ them.
    That would be unoriginal.

    ‘Thus proving what I have long suspected that your posts are verbose in the extreme and that you are as our American cousins would put it, full of shit.’

    Only cowards insult people across blogs Mr Ossitt. Grow up.
    You however, do not even have the guts, it seems, to insult me across a blog. Instead preferring to use some once removed nonsense.

    ‘If you wish to retain any credibility here; then do answer the simple question, what possible source do you have?’

    Oh dear.

    I’m not sure you have ever read a blog posting of mine.
    How can you ever imagine that I would respond to a demand from the credibility inspector?

    I’m not interested in trading insults.
    If I think a person writes *** I don’t read their posts or pay any attention to their conversation.

    Why not do the same?

    if you want a person to give you information without researching it yourself; don’t try to half-heartedly insult them into doing it.
    It’s boring and they will not provide the info which defeats the whole purpose for communicating on blogs.

    Goodbye.
    How about this?

  146. Frank P @ 14:39

    Frank,

    I definitely recommend Barter Books – you can spend 20p or 20,000p quite easily. It’s on the edge of the town centre and has it’s own small car park. I have a small collection of Victorian and Edwardian books given as school and Sunday School prizes and Barter B is a good source of them. BB in the morning and the coast and pub in the afternoon – perfect.

  148. Hexhmgeezer (21.32)

    Thanks very much; browsing around in “all our yesterdays” sounds like a good excuse for visiting that neck of the woods; I assume the railway station was a Beeching casualty? My own home town station suffered the same fate. Particularly poignant for me as my family has a long history in the railways of yore; father, grandfather and great grandfather, two brothers (and myself before I joined the army as a teenager); it was once a noble profession.

  149. Noa at16-04 Aug 15 : I don’t feel I need reports. All around in local stores (open all hours) are adverts for money transfer services.There are entire shops devoted to this–as I’ve complained for some time.So we are bleeding large amounts of our national wealth……..As I’ve also asked:who was doing these jobs 8 years ago before the country was opened to aliens? For generations there has been a `whole-istic`system where-by certain groups of British born (along with Irish )have been available for work;in East Anglia/Lincs. for example. How come they suddenly became scroungers too uneducated to pick crops?

  150. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2395172/Nine-month-ordeal-men-taken-court-catching-migrant-burglar-roof-police-waited-ground.html

    How can anybody doubt the UK’s statutory bodies are completely unfit for purpose. No wonder conspiracy theorists like JR come up with the daft ideas that power their paranoid little worlds. (and yes John, I have watched the ripples and they make no sense – watch the BBC documentary and the detonation of ‘home-made’ explosives should convince any sensible person. Have you not heard of taqiyya and kitman?)

  151. Make ‘Em Laugh ! A treasury of thousands of comic Monologues,Recitations and Poems—-many of which you may recall or half-remember—-can be found at the link below;along with a host of Music Hall Lyrics from the Great Names of the past ; and some naughty British Post Cards.There are far to many to even begin to list. SEE http://www.monologues.co.uk

  152. Frank P and others : “The Slow Train”. “Millers Dale for Tideswell…./ Kirby Muxloe…./ Mow Crop and Scholar Green…..// No more will I go to Blandford Forum and Mortehoe / On the slow train……….”. Full lyrics are at the link below;which links to the Home page for Flanders and Swann.________Wikepedia (under `slow train`) gives a listing of the stations and their fate. SEE http://www.nyanko.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/fas/anotherhat_slow.htm/

  155. Alnwick by train:-

    Go to Alnmouth. Short bus journey to Alnwick. But Alnmouth is pretty too.

  156. John Birch.

    Hello again.

    Who was behind ‘7/7’? What are the facts?

    I don’t know if you’ve checked out ‘7/7 Ripple Effect ‘ yet. It’s a bit clunky and self regarding. That puts off a lot of people used to high ‘production values’ but it’s packed with interesting facts.

    I did mention ‘impeccable sources’ though and that’s not ‘Ripple effect’.

    So, who do I mean?

    John Loftus.

    Who he?

    ‘John Joseph Loftus (February 12, 1950) is an American author, former US government prosecutor and former Army intelligence officer. He is a president of The Intelligence Summit and, although he is not Jewish, a president of the Florida Holocaust Museum. Loftus also serves on the Board of Advisers to Public Information Research. He currently resides in St. Petersburg, Florida.’
    Wiki

    How deep is he into the murky world of Secret Intelligence?
    Why should we care what he says?

    ‘According to the Intelligence Summit’s website, the meetings are run by organizers (Robert Katz and John Loftus) and an Advisory Council, which includes or included in the past
    “two former heads of CIA, the head of British Joint Intelligence, senior officials of the Mossad, the former Director of the Congressional Task Force on Terrorism, the former director of the Indian Counter Intelligence Service, generals of the US Army and Air Force intelligence services, and academic experts”.
    Among the Advisory Council members are the author and consultant Yossef Bodansky, special operations expert Richard Marcinko, and retired general and Fox News military analyst Paul E. Vallely. For security reasons , the name of the chairman of the Inelligence Summit is never disclosed.’
    Wiki & all over the web

    Pretty heavy.

    At one point John Loftus had a higher Security Clearance than The President of The United States of America. He used this power to investigate the influence of Nazis in postwar America. This is my REAL interest and I only stumbled over the ‘7/7’ stuff researching that.

    Anyway, back to ‘7/7’

    What does John Loftus say about who was really behind it?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoxPY3H5EqA

    Well, there you go.
    Don’t say I never do anything for you. Any more information and I’m afraid I’d have to….oh that’s an old joke.

    Lot’s depends upon what type of evidence convinces you. The above is a sort of ‘insider’s intellectual analysis’ of data and connections.

    The direct eye witness evidence of ‘something seriously amiss’ from a man helping with the survivors after the bus blast was even more compelling for me, but that’s another story (I’ll dig out that ref if you want).

    Toodle pip.

  157. I see that Bailey, a black advisor on youth, crime and race issues has been quietly sidelined and so has decided to play the race card himself and suggest that Britain is a racist country and that he only lost his job because he is ‘different’.

    He still hopes to become an MP and front bencher to prove the Conservatives are not racist, clearly it won’t be because he has any ability.

  159. And our mainstream meeja persists in the idea that we should back the Morsi supporters against the ‘oppressive army’!

  162. I’m in IKEA at the moment. One of my daughters has just got into university and is buying some cheap household items. But I’ll take a look later. I do think this issue of halal meat is one that could fuel a popular campaign. I still don’t eat lamb because NZ has decided to offer it all to Allah.

  163. You will find nae meat in IKEA, PfM. Get with the programme. But while we are on the subject, here is a refresher on the Great IKEA bed riot.

    “For its opening of a new store in Edmonton, IKEA advertised an offer of three-seater sofas, normally priced at £325 for £49. The subsequent rush to reach the store in time for the midnight opening caused traffic chaos on London’s North Circular Road. People drove across roundabouts, reversed up the dual carriageway, parked on pavements and, eventually, abandoned their cars on the road itself. When the doors opened, 6,000 people barged their way to Soft Furnishings. Shoppers ‘bagsied’ sofas by diving on them, only to have others pull them off by their feet. Two people tugged at opposite sides of the same sofa, both shouting, ‘It’s mine, it’s mine’. One woman grabbed a sofa only to be pinned against a wall by a man with a wooden mallet. Another woman waiting at the checkout queue was ‘mugged’ for her sofa. As security guards fled from the scene in panic, police and paramedics were called, and twenty people were hospitalised with crush injuries.”

    Joe Moran, ‘Queuing for beginners’

  165. No mention in the DT as far as I could see if the 40 churches attacked and public and police buildings destroyed by the MB in Egypt. Nor the police killed and injured by the peaceful protesters nor the elderly Christian killed.

  167. Frank P 11-38 : Have just purchased German `frifadellen`from Aldi (£1-85 for 5 ;81%pork).Very tasty hot or cold.

  168. Andy Car Park
    August 16th, 2013 – 12:41

    Hello Andy it is good to see you posting here, re your comment “You will find nae meat in IKEA” they do sell various items in the cafeteria that are supposed to be some kind of meat.

    I once made the mistake of trying their famous (or should it be infamous) Swedish Meat Balls, never again.

    I have visited on only three occasions and find the place terribly depressing.

  169. David, IKEA is very depressing. I refused to wander round the furniture following the route that is imposed on all visitors, and stayed in the cafe where I only had a coffee. On collecting my family I did purchase some mini-elk and pork sausages (not Halal), some cod roe, and some crackers. Should be safe with that. I do like meatballs, but never from IKEA, usually always from M&S.

  170. I have just read the link that Frank P kindly provide us with in his post of August 16th, 2013 – 11:38, the article that the link leads to is entitled “Denmark Bans Meatballs to Accommodate Muslims”.

    Well I for one am all in favour of ‘Accommodating Muslims’, my preference would be to accommodate them on large transport ships all heading for the nearest Muslim country that is ruled under Sharia Law and thereby giving them what they apparently most desire.

  173. Radford NG -03.25
    Dont you think that there is a difference between knowing, intuitively, that mass immigration is costing us a fortune in money that is sent abroad and not re-invested in the UK economy where it was generated, and being able to convincingly support that intuition with reasoned arguments based on facts and figures?

  175. I do think there is scope for a general campaign against the imposition of halal meat in the British diet. I am thinking of a database with every school, prison, hospital, hotel and care-home and chain of shops and butchers in it with their halal meat status so that people can easily see where they are likely to be given halal meat without being told. People could then view a map as well as a list.

    This is a very important issue to me, and I think it could be a party-neutral and popular campaign against Islamisation.

  176. Noa at 16-47 : Quite so.I dont need it personally;but the latter would support the former which is more `dramatic`to start with.

  177. ACP at 12.41

    The IKEA management were idiots. If you had 90% reductions at a new store in Lagos or Kingston (the Jamaican one) imagine what would happen. Edmonton is a 3rd world area and so suffered predictably diverse consequences.

  178. P from M 16:37 – Very good idea. Make food shops declare in a notice outside that they sell halal produce. At the very least, it will give the British shopper a good insight into the thinking/moral stance of the management of the store in question.

  179. Peter from Maidstone
    August 16th, 2013 – 16:57

    “I do think there is scope for a general campaign against the imposition of halal meat in the British diet.”

    An excellent idea.

  181. The third sentence gives us a barometer of how committed Cameron might be.

    “Meanwhile, the British Government is threatening to take Spain to the European Court to stop it bullying Gibraltar.”

    Yesterday Cameron had a meek discussion as supplicant to Bureaucratic Worm Barroso and was told it is a problem for the 2 countries to sort out.

    This tells us that Cameron values central power over the will of Parliament and is shameful.

    There are a lot of measures we can impose to bring the recalcitrant Spanish into line.

    We could start with exchange controls. How about imposing exchange controls on Euros taken as cash by the hoards of Brits who go to Spain which we couple with checks (and long queues for flights to Spain) at the airports before they go of their wallets.

    That would soon empty the hotels of Marbella.

  182. James Palumbo, who has donated more than half a million to the party, is one of around 30 new peers. His ennoblement will again raise questions about the award of honours to party donors, which would give them a say in legislation.

  187. EC
    What has all that to do with Spineless Cameron.
    I think we should heed Brian Rhodes.

    David Cameron talks the talk about repatriating powers from the EU,Lies about being Euroskeptic Promises to cut immigration but really in two and a half years his pledges are about as fictional as his cast iron guarentee for letting the people decide on Britains membership of the EU.
    Every pledge he makes is either broken withdrawn or twisted into somthing else.
    How can Britain prosper and move on with this grade A muppet as Prime minister?
    It is so damn frustrating watching powerless as these Traitors destroy our country.

  188. And a splendid reply:

    Muppets are Puppets and that is precisely what we get regardless if it be Blair or Cameron they are the front men and women who represent and are controlled by the “Illuminati”

    The “Illuminati” are the “Cowards” who use these power hungry and self serving idiots as their front but be under no illusion their are those who control us faceless individuals who are to scared to show themselves.

    The illuminati are getting more and more arrogant by put “Eggheads” like Cameron and Blair as our so called leaders.

    Could you imagine the likes of Cameron leading this country in the event of a war, we have already seen the idiot Blair was he should be in the Hague on War Crimes for what he did.

    If you know nothing about the faceless people behind the likes of Cameron & Blair research the “Illuminati”.

    The “Illuminati” allow us to think and believe we live in a democracy and that our votes count.

  189. What’s the end goal of the Illuminati?

    The end goal of the Illuminati is to establish a one-world authoritarian government known as the New World Order.

    The Illuminati takes away the freedom of the individual to define their own place in the world without being subject to mass mind-control by defining the news we are exposed to, the music we listen to (which is often packed with subliminal messaging) and the products we purchase, the chemicals in the water we drink and more.

    It is time to take back control of your mind and reach our full potential without it being suppressed by the Illuminati for purposes of world domination.

  190. Ostrich (occasionally) 09:48

    I always thought that Hannan was a little light on his loafers and the article confirms my suspicion. He talks of this Egyptian coup d’etat as just one of many such military take-overs in the history of the world. It is not; the military of Egypt is West-centric and like Israel is on the front line of resistance to global islamic jihad, of which the Muslim Brotherhood is the spearhead. The mobs on the street are merely the useful idiots. The Egyptian military are on ‘our’ side and the West should support them, rather than snapping at their heels with cries of ‘democracy’. Democracy my Aristotle! What chance of democracy in Egypt, when we can’t even achieve it in our own country – and our own abortion of an administration is weakening our own military capability, handing over power and sovereignty to unelected bureaucrats of our historical enemies and pandering to the exponential increase in the Muslim vote in Britain and across Europe at large? Moreover it is weakening the police function and enacting laws which are designed to favour the enemy within against the wishes of the indigenes.

    Egypt is a test: the last opportunity to effectively halt the jihad. Anybody that can’t understand that is blind. We are losing the ‘diplomatic’ war. Unless we have the stomach to kill the enemy when it attacks us, as we did in World War II, our national existence will not last the decade; it is already changed almost beyond salvation. It is now all-out war and those without the stomach for it should put their aprons over their heads, cower under the sofa – and let those who have get on with it.

    Instead the MSM throughout the west is painting a picture of the Muslim Brotherhood as ‘victims’ of a right-wing junta. Fucking eejits! Or worse – diabolical traitors.

    And I still haven’t heard what I want to hear from Nigel Farage on our existential war with Islam, either. what a pity that Mark Steyn didn’t decide to take up politics, rather than maverick journalism (and selling memorabilia and prophetic books). A clear thinking ex-disc jockey would be preferable to any of our current leaders. And I appreciate that his output is part of the political landscape, but with his ideas he should be in the corridors of power with his hands on the main levers. And he has, like Churchill and many other historical world leaders, a sense of humour – sadly lacking in the current crop.

  191. “EC What has all that to do with Spineless Cameron.”

    In mathematical terms: √(FA) It’s just that I like to take the occasional five minute break from the more weighty and worthy issues of the day in order to enjoy what the “silly season” has to offer. This used to be called August, but the MSM have extended it to 365/365. With regard invertebrate that you mentioned we should consider the results of his labours…. Yes, quite! In consideration of the more significant pieces of legislation enacted since 2010 we should ask ourselves, as ACP always advises, WHBGTDWI?

  192. EC
    This is war and needs to be prosecuted with zeal 365/365.
    We are on the cusp of victory.
    We must not rest for a second.

  193. I’m just up, and what a good bag of posts this morning!!

    However, although I agreed with her earlier posts, I cannot agree with Patriccia Shaw that wr are “on the cusp of victory”. My reading of events and the “leadership” (forgive my little joke), is that we are on the verge of defeat. Or, to put it another way, we witnessing at least one surrender, large or small, daily.

  194. Verity
    King James is filled with elegant prose but none more powerful than Matthew 8:26

    O ye of little faith? Then he arose, and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm

    In this passage, the disciples were with Jesus in a boat crossing the Sea of Galilee. After a hard day of teaching the people, Jesus lay down in the boat and fell asleep. Soon a squall arose on the sea; the waves began to cover the boat. Jesus continued to rest in peaceful slumber. Finally, the disciples awakened Him saying, “Lord, save us: we perish.” Jesus replied, “Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith.” Notice again, that littleness of faith is associated with lack of trust in God to take care of His disciples in times of danger.

    I am not a religious nut but I do believe that right always triumphs.

    The context of this was Europe and all around us we see evidence that Europe has failed.

    It will disintegrate if we wait.

    I am bemoaning the fact that we need not wait.

    Let Cameron metamorphose from Lamprey to Lizard.

  195. Patriccia Shaw: “Let Cameron metamorphose from Lamprey to Lizard.”

    Right. And let me metamorph into a squillionaire with a private jet.

  196. Verity
    August 17th, 2013 – 14:35
    “…. let me metamorph into a squillionaire with a private jet”

    On this subject, I wouldn’t mind metamorphosing (is there such a word?) into a very young female with;

    the face of Audrey Hepburn
    the body of Marilyn Monroe
    the sex appeal of the young Brigitte Bardot
    the brain of Einstein
    the political nous of Thatcher
    the wit of Churchill
    and the bank balance of Bill Gates

    Not asking much, really

  197. Lesley C – Not a bad wish-list, actually.

    On only one thing do we differ. Churchill had a quick, sharp wit, certainly, but my wish on that quality would unquestionably be the deft wit of Noel Coward. I only met him once, but his quick, unexpected wit was awesome.

  198. Frank P 17th, – 11:02

    “the military of Egypt is West-centric and like Israel is on the front line of resistance to global islamic jihad, of which the Muslim Brotherhood is the spearhead. The mobs on the street are merely the useful idiots. The Egyptian military are on ‘our’ side and the West should support them, rather than snapping at their heels with cries of ‘democracy’. Democracy my Aristotle!”

    Indeed, but I have long believed that, whatever front they may need to present to their electorates, governments (and, should it become necessary, the military, without government approval) have always had, and used, back doors by which the message they REALLY want to convey to foreign powers gets sent loud and clear, without mangling by the press, bolshie diplomats or noisy demonstrators. And, should it be desired, we can back it up with deliveries of equipment too. If we conclude an arms sale with (say) Bahrain, who knows wheter there’s a quid pro quo, whereby (say) Bahrain passes its (not so) old, now surplus, stuff on to the desired recipient.

    ps ‘Aristotle’ 🙂

  202. P. from M.

    Some good news from the ME.

    You’ve raised the question of the Christian Churches being destroyed in Egypt.

    I said the BBC were sitting on the story as the destruction of Christianity was the NWO policy. It seems simple to me.

    This agenda is increasingly obvious.

    ‘Egyptian military chief vows to rebuild Coptic Churches | Fox News

    The Egyptian defense minister has ordered the repair and reconstruction of all churches that suffered damage in the country’s violent demonstrations since the Egyptian military removed President Mohamed Morsi from power last month.

    Read more at http://www.foxnews.com ‘

    http://inagist.com/all/368421187648376832/?utm_source=inagist&utm_medium=rss

    Thank God for the Muslim Egyptian military eh?
    (I’d have thought there’s bound to be something in the Koran against building Churches….perhaps he’s not got to that chapter.)

    Perhaps Assad will copy this policy?

    Unless the madmen supplied by our Brave Heroes such as that convicted Brave Sniper who nicked all that ammo; totally finish the job first*. There is only so much the Russian military can do after all.

    It ain’t ‘the Muslims’ that are the problem.

    Apparently, even the Saudis have said that the ‘Egyptian people should stand with the military’.
    Even THEY know the Brotherhood is a tool of the Western power cliches.
    The Egyptian crowds fighting Muslim extremists graffiti Obama with a beard and a bomb. Why?

    Those slaughtering Christians in Syria and Libya were armed, transported around,very well paid etc etc by Western Intelligence. Still are. No-one denies this particular ‘crazy conspiracy theory’ any longer.

    Putin and the Russian Patriarch have appealed for western countries to co-operate to protect Christians in the region. Doubt the BBC covered that.
    Can you imagine how embarrassed Cameron or Obama or that swine William Haig would be at that suggested policy?

    The NWO are the threat.

    They are in control across the west. Have been for years.
    Their agenda is to create an extremist controlled Muslim block. Them WW3.

    This is why the evil horror of Abu Ghraib (tortures involved using the menstrual blood from dogs for example all details well known in the ME) were so well publicised across the world.
    To generate mutual fear and hatred.

    I wish our military had the patriotism the Egyptian military showed when they faced down the US to save their country from the NWO’s Jihadists.
    They don’t and it’s their own fault.

    I wish our politicians had the instincts to protect (public) Christian moral decency shown by Putin.
    They don’t and it’s their fault.

    Hatred and fear can ever be divinely inspired.
    Perhaps we can agree all Christians should pray to be free of hatred and fear?

    Without that, how can we hope to identify our true enemy?

    Be they near or far.

    Regs.
    *A his first trial it was revealed he had recently been in Syria. Doubt he was sunbathing or rescuing Christians being thrown off buildings. Who dares wins.

  203. Frank P and any other Wallsters in Norfolk between now and November

    A marvellous article is published by Robin Lane Fox, inter alia professor of ancient history at Oxford University and gardening correspondent of the Financial Times. It recounts his visit to Houghton Hall, Robert Walpole’s home in Norfolk, which is currently featuring paintings, once owned by Walpole and now lent by the Hermitage museum and hung where Walpole had originally put them.

    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/95114352-ff80-11e2-b990-00144feab7de.html

    If we had a prime minister of Walpole’s stature, we would probably forgive him for his stylish largesse and corruption…

    Fox writes of Houghton Hall itself, referring by link to an earlier article, “it is one of the wonders of England, designed by the best architects at the best of all early Georgian moments”.

  204. John Richardson

    As I try to peer through the smokescreens and attempt to organize the complex and often contradictory evidence into a coherent theory of what is going on geopolitically, one thread which may be productive is the islamicists in the Obama administration. It will be remembered that a former assistant secretary to the US Treasurya asserted recently that the administration had carried out a coup d’etat – in the interests of whom was not made clear. Some however have suggested that Obama is a puppet. Huma Abedin has now left the administration, officially at least, though John Brennan, Obama’s choice for head of the CIA, remains in place –

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277524/Obamas-choice-CIA-chief-converted-Islam-says-FBI-agent.html

    The journalist, Michael Hastings, is suspected to have been murderd because he was close to publishing the results of his investigation of Brennan.

    The support expressed by the Obama administration as against the Egyptian military, for the Muslim Brotherhood in the recent coup in Egypt,taken with the deaths of 22 Navy Seals a couple of years ago in an old Chinook helicopter in Afghanistan allegedly in connection with the killing of Osama bin Laden and after the father of one of the dead had accused Obama of responsibility now to be investigated by Congress, and the sordid cover up of the killing of Ambassador Stevens and other Americans in Benghazi where the CIA was allegedly involved in channeling arms from Libya to the Al Qaeda dominated rebels in Syria, is only part of a pattern of possible collaboration by the US administration with Al Qaeda.

    Events last week in Egypt, and particularly the attacks on Christians, their churches and their property, allegedly by supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood, begin to set the scene for a narrative in which a series of outrages escalating in seriousness and really or purportedly carried out by Al Qaeda or carried out by agencies holding themselves out as Al Qaeda, set the scene for a devastating false flag event in the USA which would permit further restrictions on or elimination of the Bill of Rights to be enforced on a gullible and willing population.

    As, in miniature, the Financial Times Weekend edition (page 2) reports on the attacks on Christians in Egypt: “Mourad Ali, a spokesman for Mr. Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood, said his organisation had nothing to do with the attacks. He accused people working for the security services of carrying them out to incriminate Islamists and justify repression against them”.

    When the United States government announced about two weeks ago that they would be closing more than twenty Embassies in the Middle East, I wondered aloud if this reminded anyone of the Reichstag fire – now no doubt a forgotten incident. No terrorist events followed. Some have suggested that the announcement was to distract from the scandal of the wholesale breach of the Fourth Amendment by the Obama administration’s NSA which had been drawn attention to by Mr. Edward Snowden. That may be. But what other psychological conditioning of the people could it imply to be harvested in the future? Or was it just a case of the Can’t Investigate Anything bungling their responsibilities yet again?

    Time will tell.

    I am having trouble putting all these pieces together. Has anyone here succeeded?

  205. Alexsandr

    Thanks for the explanation of ‘peer to peer’.

    On gold: agreed.

    Would suggest considering silver too – coins, bars. There is less of it and it has more industrial uses than gold. Therefore, it’s rise in price as the fiat currencies collapse, etc. is proportionately greater. Similarly, because it is at present quite a bit cheaper than gold (1 ounce: gold US$1,377; silver US$23), if the sh**t really hits the fan as it seems likely to do, starting this Autumn, and inflation takes off so that people are forced to sell assets to buy necessities instead of saving the assets as a store of value, it will probably be easier and more convenient to negotiate an ounce of silver than an ounce of gold – if the government hasn’t seized it and/or made its possession illegal…

  206. Saudi king calls on Arabs to stand with Egypt
    From our special correspondent sitting on the edge of his bed.
    Additional material Reuters.

    August 16, 2013 PoliticsEgyptSaudi Arabia

    Saudi Arabia’s King Abdullah speaks at the opening ceremony of the OIC summit in Mecca

    RIYADH (Reuters) – Saudi King Abdullah called on Arabs to stand together against “attempts to destabilize” Egypt, in a strong message of support for the country’s military leadership read out on Saudi television on Friday.

    ————-

    (it was broadcast straight after the popular ‘Saudis 10 Worst ‘Hijab Nightmares’ to make sure even the brain dead got the message)

    ——————–

    “The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, its people and government stood and stands by today with its brothers in Egypt against terrorism,” he said.

    ————–

    Huum.
    Terrorism eh?
    When the Brotherhood said ‘There will be a military coup over our dead bodies’ it wasn’t so much ‘terrorism’ as ‘hilarity’ that seemed most likely to break out.

    ———–

    “I call on the honest men of Egypt and the Arab and Muslim nations …

    ———

    Yeah, even with Allah’s help you’ll need more than them two mate…

    ———–

    “…to stand as one man and with one heart in the face of attempts to destabilize a country that is at the forefront of Arab and Muslim history,” he added.

    ———-

    No.
    It wasn’t at the forefront of any history for thousands of years before they turned to fight The Agenda.
    No they are at the forefront of all our enfolding history….
    God bless them and I hope they get a move on.

    ————-

    Saudi Arabia was a close ally of former president Hosni Mubarak and has historically had a difficult relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood. It pledged $5 billion in aid to Egypt after Mohammed Mursi of the Brotherhood was ousted from the presidency last month
    —————-

    5 billion was exactly the amount the US/NWO threatened to withhold in aid if the Egyptians didn’t let the Brotherhood take over their country forever.
    I understand they ‘did an Arsenal’ and offered 5billion and one dollar. This time it worked.

    The NWO poisoned Mubarak for standing up to the agenda in Libya and Syria. Looks like whatever deal the Egyptian military struck with the US/NWO has broken down.
    The Egyptians are fighting back.
    The Brotherhood have been stopped in their tracks and all the disgusting ‘human rights’ bleating from that boring front man Obama won’t save this Islamic revolution. ‘Democratic’ or not it’s over.
    The Brotherhood declared yesterday a ‘Day of Rage’. Today they have declared a ‘Day of Death’ but the crowds seem less enthusiastic somehow. BBC is outraged. Stephen Fry is unsuccessfully committing suicide in sympathy. Again.

    Now, if only the Russians can role back the SAS inspired and equipped ‘Revolutionary Syrian Islamic Enslavement Army of Freedom’ that would leave the UN co-ordinated (google the images) al-Qaeda in Libya to be dealt with and it’s on to Bradford and final victory!!!

    It’ll all be over by Christmas.

    Muslim Caliphate????

    Not if the bloody Arabs have got anything to say about it!!!!

    ‘Who do you think you are kidding Mr President?
    If you think old Egypt’s duuuun

  207. Lesley C

    the face of Audrey Hepburn
    the body of Marilyn Monroe
    the sex appeal of the young Brigitte Bardot
    the brain of Einstein
    the political nous of Thatcher
    the wit of Churchill
    and the bank balance of Bill Gates

    I would settle for any but the last will do while I acquire the rest.

  208. John Richardson

    Why do not the US stand with the Saudis?

    Look what happened in Pakistan when they wavered on support of the Military.

    Perhaps the answer comes from Egyptian modern history.

    “The genius of you Americans is that you never make clear-cut stupid moves, only complicated stupid moves which make the rest of us wonder at the possibility that we might be missing something.”

    Gamal Abdel Nasser

  209. Malfleur.

    If you are monitoring the Alex Jones Show then you have the best chance globally of putting pieces together.
    Nothing else comes close. He is vastly influential from Heads of The Joint Chiefs to Heads of Pakistani Intelligence to Head of IRA Internal Security. They are all on his (sometimes manic) show. Follow the show before he is murdered like seal Team Six. For many years it has been ‘the tip of the spear’ in respect of the ‘information war’.
    [as an aside there was no Bin Laden killing. He’d been dead for years, the special forces were all murdered to help cover it up. See ‘Mother of seal team Six Speaks out’ on ‘The Alex Jones Show last week’ in addition ‘No American soldiers saw Bin Laden Body’ general google search]

    Virtually every assertion you raise above is probably most likely correct.

    ‘…for a devastating false flag event in the USA which would permit further restrictions on…’

    Yes.

    See ‘Operation Blackjack’, a mysterious feature in ‘The Daily Telegraph’ a few years ago. Since deleted. You have to go to ‘Youtube’ now. This will give you some idea of the scope of current developments.

    We are so deep into the plans of the NWO that the next 5-10 years of human history will dictate the rest of our human story until the End of Time. An event I believe as a material reality. I have seen the sure proof that this is approaching, as it happens. On a lighter note, Leicester City beat Derby 1 nil away yesterday. So that’s three points whatever happens…….

    You might like to search ‘Albert Pike’ and ‘WWIII’ this will outline the basic meta conspiracy.
    If that is not fruitful say so and I’ll track down something more specific.

    Regs

  210. Patriccia Shaw
    August 18th, 2013 – 06:36

    Saudis?

    It could be that the Saudis themselves are chickening out of the plan to create a Brotherhood controlled North africa as they realise………oh just check this out

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mJtSgEAfjI&list=UUvsye7V9psc-APX6wV1twLg

    From about 3:40mins.

    A lifelong friend of mine is a highish level military NWO operative in British Military Uniform. He had daily meetings with Wesley Clark when he was in Bosnia years and years ago. He liked Clark but we disagreed on his motivation. Now I feel I understand the Big Picture much more. He is a dangerous NWO military operative in US uniform and I believe this aspect of Alex Jones analysis. No question.

    Regs.

  211. ‘Why do not the US stand with the Saudis?’

    Wait a minute…I know you.
    You’re going to ask me to send you some money next. Right?

  212. Let me say that there is no doubt at all that the attacks on the Churches and monasteries are being conducted by members of the Muslim Brotherhood and supporters of Morsi. Whatever Western journalists might want to believe or choose to report, those Egyptians on the ground know what is happening. And they know who these people are. The Muslim Brotherhood is suggesting that Christians have set fire to their own churches!

    This is not something new? The Christians of Egypt have been living with the Muslim Brotherhood for decades, they know what it wants. They are the ones lying awake hearing incitement to murderous actions being urged upon Muslim Brotherhood followers on loudspeakers on mosques and in the streets.

  213. Therefore the US Christian Right should demand that the Egypt military be supported.

  214. Halal : Researching halal I find a site giving world wide information on halal produce.Going to this you can navigate to the UK/Regions/Counties. This creates a google map showing premises. It shows shops (one of which once a family-butcher’s run by my uncle long ago); eating places,schools and mosques.This also,obviously, indicates where the main muslim districts are to be found.SEE http://www.zabikah.com

  217. I thought Roger Scruton was good on ‘A Point of View’ this morning. Pity that what followed from Paddy o’Connell on BH, purporting to be a balanced analysis of the situation in Egypt, was woven through with garbage. “Democracy has been deposed!” What democracy?

    “Democracy, my Pharaoh!” as Frank might say.

  218. @John Richardson 18th, – 06:54

    “there was no Bin Laden killing. He’d been dead for years, the special forces were all murdered to help cover it up.”

    And for this Uncle Sam risked and lost one hi-tech helicopter, the secrets of which were, within 48 hours, being examined in Red China? I don’t think so-ooo!

  219. Malfleur (04:57)

    Yes; Houghton is a monument to glorious, successful corruption, as opposed the the treasonous stuff we’re suffering at the moment from the current cadre of wankers; the first time I stood on the steps of the terrace and looked own over the distant ha-ha at the magnificent sweep of the park, I thought “Shit! I was born in the wrong century and of the wrong station.”

    “Every man has his price.” quipped Walpole. Indeed. Unfortunately mine was always far too high, so temptation never succeeded.

    I can thoroughly recommend a visit to those who have never had the pleasure:

    http://houghtonhall.com/index.php/deer-park

    and while you’re at it, make two days of it and visit Holkham, too, just up the road; another testament to the times when Norfolk housed most of the ‘great and the good’ of England. Yet another idyll and model of successful ‘enterprise’ – and the history of modern agriculture is also on display there.

    http://www.holkham.co.uk/

    Also, on a good day, Holkham Beach is one of nicest stretch of sands in England. Plenty of room to accommodate both the locals and green welly refugees from the Smoke; North Norfolk has been colonised by them (any connotation applies).

    Sadly, both piles could easily be adapted to Mosques and ‘centres of Islamic culture & learning’ – so it’s only a matter of time …

  220. John Richardson

    Have a cold shower FFS and hide in a dark room for a day or two. That should clear your head.

  222. “My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.”

    Hosea referred to by Red Beckman at the link in my post at 01:36.

    Red Beckman? Who he?

    http://www.redbeckman.com/index.php

  223. Malfleur

    From your link:-

    “The irony of the widespread use of Halal meat in the UK is, even though a muslim is normally required to only consume food that is Halal, they are not required to in Britain. It is only a requirement of the Islamic faith when worshippers are within an Islamic nation.”

    So issue closed then?

  228. Frank P @10:49

    Obama is everything that people say, but he is also one of a family of shape-shifting extra-terrestrials who run the planet. “THEY” have been here for centuries. Here’s a link to some hard documentary evidence, from the ’70s, showing, @1:18, a UFO getting a high explosive suppository. “They don’t like it up ’em, Capn …”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CvURidpkCY

    The CIA has just declassified Area 51. That’s an admission. It proves it all!
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/08/16/area-51-cia/2663829/

    The Duke of Edinburgh was responsible for the Apollo 13, aborted moon mission, you know. “They” needed extra time to clear the site, you see….

    Lt. Ellis, eh? PHWOAR.
    Nurse, N U R S E ! The curtains…….

  229. P from M – If they’re members of the Religion of Pieces, they will be given a very severe talking to and a vague threat to reduce the “benefits” paid through the nose to them by the indigenes. Also, a threat to force the gruesome hags who slice the clitorises off little girls to pay for a licence and get the sharpness of their knives tested once a year.

  230. Ostrich (occasionally)
    August 18th, 2013 – 10:29

    @John Richardson 18th, – 06:54

    “there was no Bin Laden killing. He’d been dead for years, the special forces were all murdered to help cover it up.”

    And for this Uncle Sam risked and lost one hi-tech helicopter, the secrets of which were, within 48 hours, being examined in Red China? I don’t think so-ooo!’

    Funny you should mention that because according to the families one of the curiosities about the mission was that they were ordered onto a Chinook.

    According to the families that is one of the reasons they are so suspicious.

    According to serving military who telephoned into the show; they stated as soon as they knew the team were ordered onto a Chinook they knew something was suspicious about the whole mission.

    However, I respect the fact that if you prefer not to know anything about it you can entertain such thoughts.

    Well, that’s 21/2 minutes of my life I won’t see again…..

  231. Peter from Maidstone
    August 18th, 2013 – 14:24

    You should be ashamed of yourself. Obviously, you’re not. Never will be.

    Do you have any scriptural excuses for what ever it is you call your ‘theory’.

    No.

    So it’s all based upon reading the MSM is it not? Sharing the identical views here on your blog with others; none of whom work with children or the vulnerable either. I take it you get information from television news as well. As do they. Right.

    Do you work with children, social services? No.

    So, given that you take your own ‘theory’ seriously just what have you actually

    DONE to stop what ever it is your ‘theory’ predicts is happening.

    Is the answer ‘absolutely nothing whatsoever’?

    I thought you lived in the east of London?
    If so you will be surrounded by many thousands of innocents who need rescuing, that if is you ‘theory’ is real to you.

    What are you going to DO ABOUT IT if you truly believe whatever your ‘theory’ is?

    You’ve had years and cannot be simply too busy.

    I’ve got a theory of my own, but I don’t swear at people across blogs as it is cowardly, unmanly (see Ossitt & the other one).

    IF you really believe ‘it’ you are obliged to TAKE ACTION as we can all agree the State would not/is not. If you choose not to you are complicit.

    A twisted sense of moral superiority allied with zero action is revealing testament enough.

    To then have the nerve to whittle away about your ‘theory’ on your blog (in defiance of evidence? I’ve not read this link) is far too revealing.

  233. A twisted sense of moral superiority allied with zero action is revealing testament enough.

    Sounds to me to be a description of Andy Burnham.

  234. @John Richardson 18th, – 15:02

    “Well, that’s 21/2 minutes of my life I won’t see again…..”

    Plus all the hours spent sifting through the garbage for a few gems…and then selecting the wrong stuff!

  235. “A flotilla of around 38 fishing boats and a small number of pleasure craft was ‘corralled’ by Royal Gibraltar Police and military vessels after crossing from Spanish waters close to an artificial reef. The reef, created by the British Overseas Territory’s government, is at the centre of a diplomatic row between Britain and Spain. The spat erupted when the Spaniards introduced additional checks at the border, suggesting that a £43.30 fee could be imposed on every vehicle entering or leaving Gibraltar through its fenced border with Spain. Prime Minister David Cameron has underlined the belief of Britain that the extra border checks were ‘politically motivated and disproportionate’ ”

    Right.
    So what next.
    I will tell you what should be next.
    Check in great detail the passport of every Brit (or other) leaving British Airports for Spain or the Spanish Islands. Ensure detailed enquiries of any small query that must be resolved before the next is checked.
    Separate channels for Spain so as not to inconvenience others.
    All perfectly legal under Shengen as the Spans say the Gib checks are.
    However the Spanish Holiday Industry would soon sort out the Spanish Government on this.

  236. Some of you will remember that dreadful and extremely disturbed poster ‘phil’ who haunted the other place with his absolute bilge, have we acquired a phil mark 2?

  237. David Ossitt
    August 18th, 2013 – 19:32
    David, be careful, very careful. Just mentioning his name can conjure up his terrible presence! ;=(

  238. Ostrich (occasionally)
    August 18th, 2013 – 10:29
    @John Richardson 18th, – 06:54

    And for this Uncle Sam risked and lost one hi-tech helicopter, the secrets of which were, within 48 hours, being examined in Red China? I don’t think so-ooo!

    ——————————————–

    Read post, 10 secs..

    Google ‘Seal team six,bomb Chinook’ 5-10 secs.

    Cut ‘n past from Popular Mechanics 5 secs

    See below….
    ‘3 Questions About the SEAL Team Six Helicopter Crash

    The loss of a Chinook helicopter carrying members of Navy SEAL Team Six made yesterday the deadliest single day in the entire Afghan War for the U.S., The New York Times reports. Here are the three most pressing questions that need to be answered after this attack’

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military/news/3-questions-about-the-seal-team-six-helicopter-crash

    Huum so that’s less than one minute.
    Though these numbers do not include accidentally cutting the picture (of the Chiniook) as well. So maybe just over 1 &1/2 minutes.

    ———————–

    Ostrich (occasionally)
    August 18th, 2013 – 17:36

    @John Richardson 18th, – 15:02

    “Well, that’s 21/2 minutes of my life I won’t see again…..”

    Plus all the hours spent sifting through the garbage for a few gems…and then selecting the wrong stuff!
    —————————-
    Yeah, time becomes a factor.
    Despite it being the summer Hols.
    ————————-

    Patriccia Shaw
    August 18th, 2013 – 16:25

    Ha.

  240. Just a thought or two at the end of the week an as HS2 hits the news again.

    How do they propose to stop the pikeys stealing the cable and the little sheet-heads committing an endless stream of atrocities with their exploding tits?

  241. @Clear Memories 19th, – 08:25

    “How do they propose to stop the pikeys stealing the cable and the little sheet-heads committing an endless stream of atrocities with their exploding tits?”

    That’s what costs the supplementary £47bn?

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