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Today we must turn our minds to doing something about the problem if illegal immigrants in Calais
Submitted too early
It is our problem, not the problem of the hapless Calais residents who go in fear of their lives
Should we go over and scoop them up and then
1. Settle them here in an integrated fashion?
2. Fly them back whence they came
3. Intern them on the mainland?
4. Put them on a remote island Australian style?
Whatever we do the problem must be solved
It is an international disgrace laid at our door
I am ashamed
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It has nothing to do with us. We are not responsible for foreigners who want to try to come here illegally via France.
But thanks again for another useful insight into the warped, twisted and utterly unreal mindset of the zealous lefty. No wonder this country is so fucked up with 30% of it thinking the way you do and most of that 30% dictating policy in the public sector, lobbying for policy from Quangoland and Fake Charity Land or busy brainwashing our young.
Mucus – it’s dead simple. Asylum seekers are required, under UN conventions, to claim asylum in the first safe country they reach. They are then assessed and, if accepted as bona fide refugees, allocated to Countries which have signed up to that convention. It is not their choice.
The point is, they are seeking safety & protection in the first instance. Once safe, they can build a new life.
These human dross are economic migrants. They should apply in Italy but they don’t want asylum, they are swarming to the UK for cash and an easy life. They are not the UK’s problem, they are Italy’s problem. France should ship them southwards but won’t because they can blame the Brits.
Since we here turned around the boats AND made it clear that no-one who arrived unlawfully would ever be settled in Australia (even true asylum seekers), the flow has stopped. Those that arrive would rather go home voluntarily (Iran, Sri Lanka etc) than be granted asylum into Papua New Guinea (funny that) with whom Aus has done a deal to allow them to be housed and processed there. A deal has also been reached with Cambodia. These Countries will accept the true refugees and Australia funds their ongoing well-being and upkeep. Oddly, very few accept the offer.
Whilst this human detritus thinks there is a chance of accessing the promised lands, they’ll keep coming. The draw factors have to be removed or bypassed. Then they’ll stop.
As an adjunct, I guess that’s why very few of the Ferguson blacks rioting because of the way they perceive whitey treats them ever consider returning to Kunta Kinte-land. Just think what these western educated, ambitious blacks could do for their beleaguered homelands.
Without white policemen to interfere with there entrepreneurial skills, there would surely be no limit to the heights they could reach.
Or perhaps not.
‘there’ should be ‘their’ – must be going native!
“Without white policemen to interfere with there entrepreneurial skills, there would surely be no limit to the heights they could reach.”
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Of course
James Watson who after all discovered the genetic basis of our being tells us:
“….gloomy about the prospect of Africa” because “all our social policies are based on the fact that their intelligence is the same as ours – whereas all the testing says not really”.
In the interview, he said he hoped everyone was equal, but added: “People who have to deal with black employees find this not true.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-488400/DNA-scientist-suspended-lab-claiming-white-people-intelligent-blacks.html#ixzz3Kdn5QUIy
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You should be writing on Fox News or Breitbart
Whoopee (not!) FaTBot wants to be Mayorperson of London.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30268496
Re: James Watson:
Pastor David James Manning is an interesting fellow, and might tend to agree with Watson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqx9vyE2tkc
Here’s David James Manning again with some more inconvenient home truths.
(should be required listening for FatBot, Cameron, Williams ……)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbpEheepjfE
(well worth a viewing)
Well Mucus, Watson based his comments on the evidence as he observed it, rather than politically-correct distorted group-wish.
Blacks are, by and large, oxygen thieves. Violent in the extreme and (but only judged by our standards) grossly uncivilised. Muslims, of course, solve the problem by classing them as non-human. That way, they can avoid charges of slavery for the many thousands they still hold in servitude (I know that for a fact as my Qatari ex-employer had two tame blacks
The headlines are “Brown resigns”. Now we just need “Blair assassinated” to make the day perfect!
Rape Culture UK
h/t James Delingpole @JamesDelingpole 36 minutes ago
“This is gold ”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OB6zMIrIx-g
Clear Memories–Admirer of George Galloway?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/5020222.stm
What a vigorous start to the week. 🙂
22 years for the Cambridge MD (Paedo).
I bet he now wishes he has been born in Somalia and emigrated to Bristol.
Are we about to see new law made?
Shrien Dewani to be sued by wife’s family for failing to reveal he was bisexual
The parents of Anni Dewani – who was murdered during her honeymoon in Cape Town – are to sue Shrien Dewani, her husband, after he failed to declare that he was bisexual before the wedding
“The father of Anni Dewani, who was murdered in Cape Town during her 2010 honeymoon, has said that the family have hired a lawyer to sue Shrien Dewani for failing to tell them before the wedding that he was bisexual.
Vinod Hindocha said that he had no idea of Mr Dewani’s sexuality before his daughter married the British businessman, and that neither he nor she would have agreed to the marriage if they knew.
He described the wedding as “false”.
“Which father in the world, including me, would allow their daughter to marry a person who sleeps with men? I don’t think anybody would,” he told MailOnline.
“Now we have the truth and that he has literally deceived the whole family. He should have opened his heart and told us ‘I love your daughter, I’m bisexual. Will you accept me?’
“I would have said: ‘You take your way and I will take my way. It was nice meeting you.'”
His wife Nilam agreed, and said: “If I knew Shrien was gay or bisexual I would never have allowed Anni to get married.
“It was a false wedding because of who he really was. Anni would never have married Shrien if she knew the truth that he was bisexual or gay. She would never have accepted it.”
Mr Hindocha said that they were seeking legal redress for the deception.
“The whole wedding was a drama and was false.
“I am going to sue him for that. Not just for the money, but for the loss of my daughter. Anni left this world just for nothing,” he said.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/southafrica/11265092/Shrien-Dewani-to-be-sued-by-wifes-family-for-failing-to-reveal-he-was-bisexual.html
@CM 11:46
I’ve been hoping for that since some time in 1997!
Dick’s Off after (Hog’s?) dagger in back.
http://news.sky.com/story/1383704/britains-top-woman-cop-quits-scotland-yard
Good riddance to the Met’s Calamity Queen!
What’s the betting, though, that she’ll be suppositoried into the HoL in the New Year, or maybe a nice ‘Third Sector’ Quango sinecure arranged by Common Purpose – but paid for by us.
EC 15:26
Guaranteed. Or she’ll take to her parachute over a safe Labour seat.
Common Purpose Cressida finds a job in the Camel Corps!
She’s ocean-going foreign office material all right, sold the UK down the river to the domestic jihadists, now its foreign boots she wants the public to lick.
Oil the wheels for a few BAE Systems arms deals to the arabs? Hand Cressida the file.
Poor old Cressida, if only she had been looking for a Muslim – you know, racial profiling – on that fateful day, Jean Charles de Menezes wouldn’t have ended up dead. But doctrine is what Cressida does.
Why on earth someone couldn’t have used their common sense that wretched day, I don’t know. They were Muslim bombers. Muslims. The clue is in the name, Muslim terror. Oh, you banned that phrase, did you? No wonder you don’t know what you’re doing.
EC
December 1st, 2014 – 15:26
Must say she is well named! 🙂
I read somewhere this week that the French right wing are suggesting the re-opening of the penal colony of Cayenne commonly known as Devil’s Island, to incarcerate their Muslim extremists.
This got me thinking, where could we send our own extremists, and then I thought why should we wait until these extremists show their hand.
Why not anticipate the problem and transport all Muslims aged 18 to 35 years as a precaution?
@DO 1st – 16:39
“Why not anticipate the problem and transport all Muslims aged 18 to 35 years as a precaution?”
I’m sure Scotland has a suitably dreich, uninhabited island somewhere! 🙂
Writing in the Daily Mail, columnist Peter McKay writes:
“A really black day for Britain
“I’m sure it’s not polite to say so, but it seemed to me only about one in ten in the seething tide were recognisably of Anglo-Saxon stock.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2855438/Chumps-No-Mellor-Mitchell-plain-nasty-writes-PETER-MCKAY.html
Not at all sure why Cameron feels the need to praise Brown as having put in a great deal of public service! That’s like Churchill at the end of World War II praising Hitler for the same thing!!
Gordon Brown and Alastair Darling will be richly rewarded by David Cameron over the Scotland issue. It’s all being spun as grand retirement for the two of them. In reality, it’s time to cash in for their spinning beyond the call of duty over the past 12 months: a seat for each in the House of Lords and £300 per day. Kerching! And not a moment too soon for either of them. The SNP looks poised to demolish Labour in May 2015. How lovely to run off to the unelected House of Lords!
Historical, but refreshing:
What Canadians think of Nigel Farage and UKIP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei9TM9JMQt8
RobertC, I think everyone is fascinated by upstart parties all over the world at the moment (UKIP are under a blanket ban of silence again in the MSM this week). Apparently Marine Le Pen would win the French election if it was called now so fed up are they. And Obama has caused massive disillusion in the US. Eight years and the country is in an appalling state and there is no rainbow nation. Ferguson shows that these people have been given an inch and now want to take a mile. It was all interesting while it was new, but now? And Obama has just granted a Blair-style ‘amnesty’ to about 5 million illegal immigrants. Anything to shore up an ailing vote for the ‘Democrats’. People are sick of America’s two-party system. And in Spain the Catalans are itching to be shot of the rest of Spain. The centralised banker-helping world of global world government is producing nothing but failure.
I watched EC’s David James Manning videos and in one he says all that comes out of Washington and Obama is lies. And ditto for Cameron. People are watching the world over and they’re no longer taken in. Amen to that.
Chimp Smoker – 20:45
And George Osborne has been busy:
George Osborne’s secret plan to bail out the eurozone
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11264954/George-Osbornes-secret-plan-to-bail-out-the-eurozone.html
BBC News @ Ten tonight featured a nauseating mini- hagiography on Gargolyle Brown, on the announcement of his retirement from ENGLISH politics. His own speech indicates that this zombie will never stop arising from the swamps of fetid political horrors. He needs a stake of seasoned English oak driven through his heart. The damage he inflicted on our nation and our culture will go down in annals of political infamy. But according to BBCAgitprop “History will treat him more kindly!”
RobertC December 1st, 2014 – 15:04
“Shrien Dewani to be sued by wife’s family for failing to reveal he was bisexual”
I suspect that he is not bisexual but that he is 100% homosexual, it would not take much trouble for his wife’s family to have a thorough search into his background and then find the truth.
Had she been my daughter he would not now be either, if you get my drift.
Just watched Susan Rice on Fox, trying to defend Turkey, after Erdogan’s latest rant against he West. When ever I see her lying mush on camera I think “Benghazi!” … cockney rhyming slang for carsey or “shit-house” – a natural and apposite train of thought, perhaps?
Frank
Indeed history will treat him kindly
When all around were wringing hands he produced the template and had the steel to save the banking system
In his way he was more important than Churchill in 1940
Osborne’s conjuring trick for today is floods
Yesterday roads
Tomorrow the moon
Déjà vu.
telemachus Dec 2 05:23
“In his way he was more important than Churchill in 1940″
Colonel Mustard Dec 1 09:46
” . . . thanks again for another useful insight into the warped, twisted and utterly unreal mindset of the zealous lefty.”
And whilst on the subject of Useful Idiots:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLqHv0xgOlc
Useful Idiots with Yuri Bezmenov from 1984 – 15 minutes – frighteningly prescient.
This week’s WTF? award goes to …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1nPQsRof-0
Following closely on the heels of the fragrant Emily Thornberry (LAB) we now have Mark Garnier (CON)
h/t Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage )2 hours ago
“Well, well. The mask continues to slip… ”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/politics/6142009/Senior-Tory-MP-sneers-at-dog-end-voters.html
The whole of the sneering Westminster cabal need to be strung up from Westminster bridge.
RIP Telegraph blogs, then.
No great loss to freedom of speech since they suspended comments on inflammatory posts, banned large numbers of commenters, and many others had long since defected to Breitbart.
I know we don’t usually cut young Fraser much slack over at ‘the other place’ but this pretty well chimes with my own thoughts…
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/12/the-good-and-the-bad-of-gordon-brown/
Colonel Mustard – 07:54
Particularly chilling and prescient because, as Yuri Bezmenov said, the USA is/was the last bastion of freedom. Then along came Bush, and then Obama.
cue Sir Richard Mottram GCB.
This from Tim Stanley at the ‘Torygraph’:
“Gordon Brown is a giant. He has been followed by pygmies.”
What? A cyclops? Who lives in a cave and eats people raw?
Don’t these writers ever re-read their work to check for the unintended interpretation that would spring to the minds of many people? Or was it actually intended?
Mind, the second sentence of the quotation is about right. 🙂
Ostrich (occasionally) – 10:08 & 11:32
V. Good 🙂
However, Jeremy Clarkson summed GB up in far fewer words, but, after all, he is a much better journalist than ‘alf Nelson.
Apropos Yuri Bezmenov, we featured the whole series of his interviews on Melanie’s blog a few years back; likewise with the prognostications of Cleon Skousen, the ex-FBI agent and Mormon scholar, author of The Naked Communist, all of which have been remarkably accurate.
Which is why I’m a little disturbed to receive this communique this morning from George Friedman:
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/taking-strategic-intelligence-model-moscow#axzz3Kg3hSbSS
Hmmm??
Stave off the winter blues by watching crap robots fighting each other.
http://prostheticknowledge.tumblr.com/post/103930647541/hebocon-japanese-robotics-fighting-contest-where
Sad thing is, PMQs makes the robots look good.
EC & O(o)
Frasier once again carefully avoided the Neather issue, of course, in his ‘balanced’ appraisal of the Gargoyles career. 🙂 Much as I despise Brown; who’s the prissy little prick accusing of ‘bottling out’ when it’s his own stock-in-trade.
Fair enough, Frank. 🙁
Andy Car Park
The second of your last two posts is strong contender to trump the first.
🙂 🙂
Can we rely on you to make this a weekly feature? I nominate you as da judge.
Here we have another example of incompetence being made worse by ignorance:
UK Smart Meters Delayed. Again.
http://www.nickhunn.com/uk-smart-meters-delayed-again/
OK, Frank. As it’s Tuesday, I’ll throw in a bonus: the very best of @CrapTaxidermy.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/alanwhite/if-you-want-laughs-and-to-feel-a-bit-sick-you-should-follow
ACP (18:02)
I’d pay to get this bastard stuffed:
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/holder-doj-target-racial-profiling
He’s doing as much as he can during the so-called lame-duck phase of his subversive stint to fuck the CJ systems of The West before he retires to whatever sinecure they have lined up for douchebag.
Now I shall peruse your latest link to see if I can advise my contacts over there accordingly – if there’s any of them left with cojones bigger than transvestite gnats. The Good Old Boys have missed so many tricks in the last six years; makes you wonder whether they are even more neutered than OUR reactionaries.
…. WONDERFUL!!!! Bwahahahaha.
WTF do you find ’em? Or even find the time to find ’em.
Did anybody else catch Daily Politics today – at least five more contenders for the taxidermist’s attention. I’ll buy the Ken Clark one for my study. As for the Y A-B horror, I doubt whether even a taxidermist would stuff that!
The white version with the headscarf, whatever its name is, can never remember the names of plain women (not even Muzzie converts) could be auctioned off as a hostage for ISIS and a suitable rogering, which she obviously badly needs. I wonder if she’s the erstwhile Patriccia Shaw, late troll of this and many other blogs?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04tqb2f/daily-politics-02122014
They really are shitting themselves over UKIP, aren’t they?
Alex Boot’s post today couples nicely with min at 11:44 today:
http://alexanderboot.com/content/liberalisation-putin-style
It would be interesting to see the two of them debate the contents of each other’s posts. Friedman v Boot. I suspect that have met.
Anne (16:14 Dec 1st)
Perhaps the spelling of what the little dutch boy had his finger in would (from all appearances, rather than personal knowledge) suit even better? OTOH, I suppose she could be a right goer. Who knows? Well, she certainly is now, but past tense – she’s well and truly gorn. But not forgotten we hope, as the rest of it unfolds, so to speak. Parodies, travesties and pantomimes continue on a daily basis.
Cue FatBot and Brillo [sigh] “Where will it all end?”
Frank P. Dec 2 @19:11
Boot’s description of the way the Russian economy works – including being required by Organised Crime at every level to pay bribes and such is fascinating, but it made me ask myself – is our own taxation system of really all that different?
Nearly every extraction of money – whether by way of income tax, purchase tax, value added tax, excise duty, gift tax, import duty, death/estate duty and so forth – from people like you and me is, fundamentally, a form of extortion or even theft is it not?
Frank P 18:57
“Patriccia Shaw” and telemachus are one and the same. The real Patricia Shaw, who is an American Palestinian activist, gave up posting under her own name a few years back.
Colonel Mustard
Yep. We know. That all came out in the wash when Melanie got shafted by Brillo and Frasier and the renegades here broke away. Nicholas would have known that, by the way, should anyone still think that you and he are the same poster. So either you are not, or your memory, like mine, is beginning to show wear and tear. I have to say your style of prose and general cut of the jib, so to speak, is a ringer for the erstwhile stalwart who got so pissed off by the Shaw trolls that he decided to move to pastures new. Such a pity. We all enjoyed the exchanges that served to expose the futility of their cranky ideology. We miss him. That’s why a doppelganger is so welcome here.
I was just being mischievous in my little jibe above; sorry there are some ‘in’ jokes that do the rounds here and it’s ill-mannered of me to assume that every one is au fait. Please accept my apologies, your contributions add considerable zest to the platform. Get yourself blacklisted from Trolltopia and you’ll get premium membership and a signed copy of Bill O’Reilly’s next plagiarized book.:-)
Herbert T,
Nice to see you back; you okay? We were getting worried. Thought you might have eloped with Verity (pbuh).
I agree; the parallels are very depressing. But so far stroppy dissidents are not yet being ‘whacked in the shit house’, not English ones anyway. And as this blog has been generally supportive of the KGB Colonel, Verity’s disappearance is probably not due to Vlad the Terrible. Personally, I still go with Boot’s analysis, rather than our pal Baron’s, though the debate has been very interesting. Where is Baron, btw? His recent visits to the heirs of Hippocrates have been quite alarming. Any news Wallsters?
Perhaps we can all adjust our viewpoint after Friedman sends back his first communique from Moscau, which I await with interest.
Russell Brand upset by the media revealing the truth about him. Just a nastier, scruffier and stupider version of Ben Elton.
And, no doubt just like Ben Elton, in the highly unlikely event that Labour win the next election, he’ll piss off to sunnier climes where he won’t be troubled by the poor and their ever-increasing demands for more of his money to be blown by Socialists.
Frank P 2/12/14 1857
I have not felt the need to post on my Palestinian Passion since Israel ceased hostilities against Gaza after 2019 Palestinian Deaths.
My husband is currently over in Cyprus co-ordinating one aspect of the relief effort being delivered through Egypt.
Please do not denigrate my friend Yasmin who is the most liberal and friendly of all the Muslims I know-please read her pen picture:
“I am a Muslim woman and, like my late mother, free, independent, sensuous, educated, liberal, contrary and confrontational when provoked, both feminine and feminist. I style and colour my hair, wear lovely things and perfumes, appear on public platforms with men who are not related to me, shake their hands, embrace some I know well, take care of my family.
I defend Muslims persecuted by their enemies and their own kith and kin. I pray, fast, give to charity and try to be a decent human being. I also drink wine and do not lie about that, unlike so many other “good” Muslims. I am the kind of Muslim woman who maddens reactionary Muslim men and their asinine female followers. What a badge of honour.”
Frank P
December 2nd, 2014 – 19:42
Anne (16:14 Dec 1st)
“Where will it all end?”
As the proverbial Nanny would say, “It will all end in tears”!
Clear Memories – 01:42
“sunnier climes”
Didn’t the Labour party’s own minstrel, the tuneless and toneless Billy Bragg, piss off down to live in a Dorset mansion from where he lectures the rest of us upon the benefits of immigration, diversity and multi-kulti?
What to do with Brand, Bragg, and also all those ’80s/’90s “alternate” political “comedians” – Elton, Brigstocke, Tossvig, Hardy, Sayle etc. – that still infest the myriad of BBC game & quiz shows? 1) Grant them all eternal life. 2) Lock them up together in a secure facility – forever – where they could amuse each other with their witty Margaret Thatcher jokes. 3) EVERY NIGHT ALL NIGHT LONG play the Benny Hill theme tune – VERY LOUD- to remind them of one of the genuine comedy talents that they and their PC comrades destroyed.
Andy Car Park @ December 2nd, 18:02
Funniest thing I’ve seen in many a long year. It even made the wife laugh.
@09:14 …. alternately, hire Edward Lionheart or Dr. Anton Phibes to bump the above off in the most apposite and humorous way possible.
Andy Car Park,
For your weekly feature a google of “pininterest fail” might yield a rich seam of material.
The awards season will soon be upon us again
For Luvvies, how about a Edward Lionheart or Dr. Phibes award?
For Climate “scientists” – a Trofim Denisovich Lysenko award.
For Plagiarists – The Alistair Campell / Nikolai Lobachevsky award.
This morning is not going well, it’s going to have to be a two potter! (coffee)
telemachus 07:04
Hilarious. About as subtle as a grand piano from the third floor into a lorry load of live poultry.
Asylum seekers are not to be asked questions about their sexuality if they claim asylum on that basis..
http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/aslyum-and-the-forbidden-questions/
‘ello
What’s happened to Telegraph Blogs? There were some proper creepy crawlies starting to post there from the demos think tank and some satanic opinion pollsters too. The comments were full of paid trolls. Managed to get myself banned (my comments regarding immigration were getting huge amounts of likes… haha ). It seemed like they had whole teams of psychologists, programmers, and others trying to manipulate us. And it failed on their part. So they’ve thrown their toys out of the pram.
Gerald Warner has moved over to Breitbart. I find it a little difficult to trust an American website with the future of independent thought. Really wish Mullen, Warner, Delingpole were writing for this site instead.
I could perhaps get Peter Mullen to write something. But for the rest, it needs investment in the site. Let’s see what happens.
Peter Mullen and Alex Boot also post here….
http://www.analysis-review.com/
It seems poor old Europe can’t check whether claimed shirt-lifters are actually turd-burglars trying to get an easy ride into Euro-paradise.
I suspect this is just an easy ride for Muslims as the mullahs have bequeathed that Jihadis can stretch their arses in order to carry bombs internally. It was, after all, one of the aforementioned Jihadis with a widey stretched orifice that tried to assassinate one of the Saudi royal family (piss be upon ’em) by dint of several sticks of TNT up the back passage.
If we had decent comedians (like the sainted Benny), they could mine this treasure trove of amusement. But all we have are the like of Brand (male & female versions, and I use those terms loosely) and the seriously unfunny but oh-so PC Toksvig. Can you imagine how much fun Kenneth Williams would have with terrorists sticking bombs up their bums? (“Ooh Matron, I think mine’s got a trembler fitted”
telemachus – December 1st, 2014 – 10:35
Thanks to your attempt to cast “nasturtiums” on the character of a real scientist, James Watson, I came upon this little gem:
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2014/12/01/james-watson-nobel-prize-for-dna-discovery-up-for-auction/
“You may never actually win a Nobel Prize, but that doesn’t mean you can’t take one these prestigious awards home with you.”
Despite its 140- limitations Twitter provided the ideal medium to simultaneously bolster free speech warrior @MarkSteynOnline and piss off climate “scientist” @MichaelEMann (who claims to have a Nobel prize but actually doesn’t)
Pleased to report that it worked! 🙂 🙂 🙂
Watson’s Nobel Medal goes on sale at Christies in New York, tomorrow, Dec-4, and is expected to raise at least $2.5M
Re: Mann vs Steyn:
Mark is raising his own legal fees thru sale of his books etc., but who is paying the humble and modestly paid @MichaelEMann ‘s legal costs I wonder?
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The Colonel Mustard is an interesting chap with his conspiracy theories
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Colonel Mustard
November 29th, 2014 – 11:25
There is a coterie of left-leaning but politically and nationally ambiguous trolls currently swamping the other place with disruptive tripe:-
“goatmince”
“you_kid”
“dado trunking”
“dalai guevara”
They are marked by a similar tagging style, often deploying irrelevant inanity and weak attempts at humour and pun in a rather unpleasant “Euro-zany” style that leads some to believe they are not British. They frequently resort to the leftist gambit of applying distortions, diminutives and familiarities to the names/pseudonyms of other commentators. This is an old trick contrived to turn apparent chumminess into a form of attempted domination.
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As he sits in his bucolic Home Counties idyll stroking his retriever he oft posts mistruths about this poster
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At times he has linked me with Mynydd, Dalai Guevara, Patriciia Shaw, Fergus Pickering, Hookes Law and others
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There is only one telemachus. These are my very good friends and I even exchange emails with a couple of them but the Telemachus collective is proud of its sanctity
Things are hotting up for the AGW Warmists on Reading’s Concrete Campus:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30304611
“They say man-made climate change is at least partly to blame globally.”
Partly globally? Oh wait, that must be Central England.
I’m eagerly awaiting the UEA CRU’s data on 2014 Turnip Yields to be published.
I was watching a good piece on the red squirrel yesterday. It was set in Aberfoyle, which I know well. But when the local ranger was asked what was reducing the red squirrel population he gave a list of true causes – the grey squirrel, diseases transmitted by the grey squirrel and habitat degradation – and then felt obliged to add global warming on the end, as if it was some sort of necessary proof he was a real naturalist!
I find such casual deceit irritating. It is the sort of thing you really would expect in East Germany or Stalinist Russia.
“As he sits in his bucolic Home Counties idyll stroking his retriever he oft posts mistruths about this poster”
Ironic, considering that you have been advised many times before that the Colonel does not live in the Home Counties and does not own a retriever.
And the Colonel has NEVER suggested that telemachus is Mynydd, Dalai Guevara, Fergus Pickering or Hookes Law.
Fergus Pickering in his latest incarnation appears to support UKIP whilst Hookes Law appears to be a Cameronian reformist Tory, which would make such an accusation incredible. In your fevered mind you seem to have melded me with other commentators there.
Don’t confuse a “conspiracy theory” with good intelligence. The Colonel has spent a lifetime gathering that and also has many good friends and contacts with whom he also exchanges emails.
The giveaway in your smokescreen post is the reference to “the Telemachus collective”.
Pretending that “Patriccia Shaw” should suddenly post here at 07:04 in response to a comment that “she” and you are one and the same, together with the obligatory, uncredited cut’n’paste, rather gives the game away.
PS You are not blessed with intelligence, telemachus, even though you labour under the delusion that you are, but Mynydd stands distinct by being even less blessed than you.
As for Dalai, I don’t believe for a moment that you are German, or even pretending to be.
Frank P, You ask where I get this stuff. I swap links with an Australian anarchist friend, who is almost as resourceful as your NN, subversion-wise. There is also often some good techie stuff on David Thompson’s blog, tagged ‘Friday Ephemera’, e.g. dancing robot spiders.
EC, wot? Johann Hari already been bounced out by Nikolai Lobachevsky? Who knew?
Peter from Maidstone – 11:57
Did he mention how many degrees Celsius change these squirrels have suffered due to Climate Change and how many degrees Celsius change they have suffered because the sun hides away every night, or even the annual changes, according to the seasons?
telemachus, what languages can you speak?
He speaks Gobbledegook, Gibberish and Bollocks!
For those of you with faith in the benefits of adhering to the Ten Commandments, this link should bolster your efforts to even stronger resolve to try even harder (it even stirred ancient longings in the sump of my own youthful beliefs in something more important, somewhere, than the human condition). But my reading of today’s entries on this platform have, of course, swiftly returned my feet to Terra Firma. Anyway fwiw:
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/dennis-prager-releases-ten-commandments-video-series
I’ve read Boot’s latest. What he calls the uphill snowball reminds me of the system of tax-gathering when Russia was under the Mongol yoke. Geoffrey Hosking investigates the Mongol legacy – including the postal system – in ‘Russia and the Russians’.
Hosking gave the Reith Lectures in 1988 and comes from a Quaker background. Quakers have their faults like everybody else but they are ‘non-creedal’, for which read non-doctrinaire, and are good at standing aloof from polarised disputes.
Putin isn’t someone I’d introduce to my maiden aunt, but I tend to side with Peter Hitchens*. This isn’t anything to do with ‘my enemy’s enemy’ – a fallacy calculated to load the question. As Lord Palmerston said, ‘There are no permanent friends; there are only permanent interests’. I have frequently been out on a limb, never in my life having trusted either America or the EU. Both of them have been pushing their luck in the FSU for far too long and I for one am glad to see them getting pushed back.
* As Frank P chivalrously and periodically reiterates, I brought Alexander Boot’s blog to the attention of his forum in 2012. I in turn came across him by accident, while navigating, ironically, from Peter Hitchens to the main index of Mail Online bloggers, of whom Boot was then one. I have since read three of Boot’s books and have found them very interesting. I continue to rate him as a well-read and deep-thinking commentator. But … you could hear the ‘but’ coming. He does not have the emotional distance from his country that Hitchens and (particularly) Hosking have. He tends to romanticise and to exaggerate the importance of abstract ideas at the expense of boring administration (see first para). Like Boris Pasternak, there is something of the ‘cloud dweller’ about him.
Today was a wet day in China. After gobbling a spicey lunch of chicken and potato with rice and at the campus canteen, I took a walk to the near empty running track. I pulled out my phone, loaded up a pdf file of the King James Bible, then scrolled down to the book of Ruth. Her story is really touching, how she worked tirelessly for her mother in law Naomi, and then moved together to Israel where Ruth met a new husband. Barley harvest. Wheat harvest. Both of those phrases stood out because they are elegant and beautiful. Somebody should name books Barley Harvest and Wheat Harvest.
{2:10} Then she fell on her face, and bowed herself to the ground, and said unto him, Why have I found grace in thine eyes, that thou shouldest take knowledge of me, seeing I [am] a stranger? {2:11} And Boaz answered and said unto her, It hath fully been shewed me, all that thou hast done unto thy mother in law since the death of thine husband: and [how] thou hast left thy father and thy mother, and the land of thy nativity, and art come unto a people which thou knewest not heretofore. {2:12} The LORD recompense thy work, and a full reward be given thee of the LORD God of Israel, under whose wings thou art come to trust.
sorry for the typos. typed on a mobile phone.
peter 13:15, yes exactly
99.9% of telemachus’ posts here and “there” are “hit and run”, the equivalent of ringing the doorbell and then running away.
Merit-less.
Colonel, he has lots of other sites to disrupt, not actually communicating on any.
Is it safe to go back to the shops yet ??
Andy Car Park
Your appraisal of Alex Boot’s works and his expressed ethos is very interesting. I’ve often wondered, as after the initial introduction, you seemed reluctant to swing one way or the otther in his indirect debate with PH. Unfortunately I no longer have the mental stamina to keep the number of cerebral plates spinning that either Boot, Hitchens, or indeed you, can manage, nor produce the entertaining polemical copy that the three of you consistently manage. The ravages of time, tide and gravity have taken their toll and lethargy is now the overwhelming inclination. So I join in when I can and take the piss for perverse personal pleasure ( one of the few pleasures and privileges of advanced age and incipient senility).
Nonetheless I enjoy Alex’s persistent attempts to forewarn us of the dangers of Vlad the Terrible and as someone who was obliged to copy in long hand (via Morse code, to boot – pun intended) the concentrated bullshit of Radio Tass et al. in the post war years as the iron curtain fell and the horrors of totalitarianism began to emerge, I share his concerns, not in the least impressed by the veracity of the alleged ‘collapse’ of the USSR.
As previously stated, my aversion to the Hitchens of yore sprang directly from street level, when his ilk went out of their way to curtail my efforts to shed light on the sources of the Gramsci-inspired Counter Culture Hegemony War, when the patch I was policing became the location of not only the international followers of the Frankfort School, but the Black Power movements various; anarchists of the world and to add to the fun, the extreme right wing mobs of Mosely and his successors. All were interacting with both petty criminals and organized crime (including some venal rats in The Job) to undermine society, aided and abetted by not only the underground press, but sections of the MSM funded by the sino-soviet bloc.
Since then Hitchens and some of his oppos have grown up, but old habits die hard. So any pro-soviet leanings emerging from the subversive clique of the 60s/70s raises my hackles, glasnost and perestroika notwithstanding. OTOH I do enjoy PH’s output, find his TV appearances entertaining and his pungent wit at times effective. Perhaps one day I’ll become convinced that his conversion his complete. Until then I shall tend to listen more intently to Mr Boot and remain grateful for your introduction.:-)
Radford NG – 16:11
“Is it safe to go back to the shops yet ??”
I doubt it, but the Steyn Store is open for business as usual.
http://www.steynonline.com/6692/climategate-five-years-on
“In terms of guns and gold? They are the only material things that will save us.”
Judge Andrew Napolitano
ReasonTV: “It Is Dangerous to Be Right When the Government Is Wrong: The Case for Personal Freedom.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA_Yl_JCdFg
Patrick Flynn, UKIP’s spokesman on the economy, just handled himself well on Sky News; Murgnahan’s dislike for UKIP shone through, but Flynn sailed through it with dignity and displayed a grip of his brief. Well done!
Brillo apparently avoided giving UKIP their say on the Beeb in the post-statement interviews, it was apparently the SNP, the Welsh and that awful Aussie bird from the Greens turn today.
Does anybody feel optimistic after that dog and pony show?
Lame Duck Gone Wild: Election “Butt Kicking” Unleashes Mad-Duck Obama
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFAl1NPnTOI
EC
Excellent link! Thanks.
I used to think it was just me, frequently getting 404 page/server responding too slowly on Breitbart, but evidently not. Just because you might be a conspiracy theorist doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
http://canadafreepress.com/
“Breitbart.com where are you?”
“Notice how websites who are Big Government advocates never go offline.”
Back on line now, but seemingly they are not the only ones.
Alex Boot has allowed me to post his Monday Club lecture on the website here….
http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/monday_club/
And commenting on Putin today, he says to me…
“I realise I don’t have the impeccable objectivity that can only come from either total ignorance or a Trotskyist past or, ideally, both. As to abstract ideas, the other day I spoke at the Monday Club. I’m attaching the transcript that would strike me as fairly concrete.”
And speaking of Breitbart, splendid up-yours from Dellers:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/03/The-week-in-stupid-black-footballer-with-Jewish-adoptive-mother-accused-of-anti-Semitism-and-racism
Whatever happened to Mariella Frostrup?
Croaking Common Purpose trannie. Hope she fell down a drain or something. Serve her right.
I enjoyed Boot’s Monday Club
BOX 1: Populism combined with chauvinism.
“All fascist regimes rally the masses by redirecting their social or economic resentments and a sense of national humiliation or inferiority into the conduit of jingoism. It’s the regime’s task to correct a historical wrong and restore the nation to her past grandeur. For Hitler that was the Germanic conquest of the Holy Roman Empire, for Mussolini the glory of ancient Rome. For Farage it is the recreation of an ancient Anglo Saxon Kingdom
Peter
Many thanks for the couple of comments on my posts
I lack the erudition of most of your posters
But my heart is like most of those posters in the toil of making our country a better place for our children and grandchildren
As always there will be nuances in the interpretation of how we reach that end
But we must toil nonetheless
“For Farage it is the recreation of an ancient Anglo Saxon Kingdom”
The British Commonwealth: so much better than Common Purpose.
‘And commenting on Putin today, he says to me…’
Commenting, entirely fortuitously, on a couple of other things too, by the looks.
Seems to me the love of your life is a whining big girl’s blouse.
A big hiccup in the multi-culti-wagon train:
‘South Africa is not normal. These are black people’: Shrien Dewani’s brother launches extraordinary attack in secretly taped meeting with Anni’s family amid fears her husband would be framed for murder
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2858761/South-Africa-not-normal-black-people-Shrien-Dewani-s-brother-launches-extraordinary-attack-secretly-taped-meeting-Anni-s-family-amid-fears-husband-framed-murder.html
Frank P – Thanks for your thoughtful reply, as always. You will be able to gather a little more about my own sympathies from a couple of the intervening posts, as well perhaps about the stature of Mr Boot. Petulance and puniness usually tend to go hand in hand. You’d never catch PH throwing his rattle through cyberspace at the first whiff of measured criticism.
Frank P @ 19:11
Whether his faltering body casket can take it or not, Baron has to rejoin the fray, annoy some of you. And what better re-entry than this piece you linked the Walsters to, Frank.
A son of one of Baron’s neighbours set up a business in Russia from scratch over a decade ago, expanded it, is still making alot of moolah, sanctions or not. Not once has he had to bribe anyone, or got bribed by anyone, hire a bodyguard as an established part of his business model.
Of course, one specific case doesn’t make the whole country bribe free, but given he isn’t Russian, speaks little of the language, competes with local ‘corruption infested’ rivals, isn’t it amazing that in a country that’s run by Mafia so tightly, breeds bribery and corruption unlike any other society, business people get poisoned, run over, kidnapped (if one were to take Mr. Boot’s word for it), he should be the lucky one to escape it all?
No question about Mr. Boot’s erudition, knowledge of history, languages, few other things beside, but his take on things Russian is badly skewed by his unshakeable hatred of everything his mother country and everyone in it have ever done, are doing, and one suspects, may do in the future. One is hard put not to feel he thinks Russia owes him, and owes him big. But for what? He left before the Red menace monstrosity collapsed, chose to live outside.
Baron kind of feels for him. Had he stayed in Russia, he may have had a large following kicking the Putin’s regime. Out of Russia, his voice is lost like that of all of the other emigres who’ve suffered a fate similar to his, Russia’s history is full of such tragic figures.
What he misses fully is that if the KGB colonel goes, his replacement will be by far worse, recruited not from the small diaspora of the mutants of western progressives, but from the deeply nationalistic lot. This will do FA to either the living conditions of the Russian unwashed, or for Russia’s relations with the world at large except perhaps the Chinese. Strategically, this couldn’t be worse for Europe what with our Allah worshipping friends nibbling at our culture from within.
The crisis itself may do the Russians good, and the deeper the better, Baron reckons. Why should this vast land import $60bn of foodstuff like apples, cheese, bacon, when it can grow, breed, produce everything domestically. Why she mostly exports oil and gas (75% of all exports) when her educated elite has mastered space, computing, military technology at least on par with the best the West can offer?
stephen, my friend, if you’re still around, here’s an offer you can refuse.
How about meeting next Tuesday for the book buying/signing? Anywhere you choose, (make it not too far from your abode, anywhere in Tower Hamlets will be fine), but only after 12.30 hours, Baron cannot make it into London earlier.
If you cannot make it, it matters not, we shall meet later.
Baron
We have done some business with Russia since the mid 80’s which is before the “wall” but admittedly after perestroika
They are hard but if you hold your corner you can do useful business and I have never bribed a soul either communist or Putinoid
It pays to keep your head down and resist sympathising with the discontented
There are very useful profits to be made
Hitler organised excellent Autobahns too, loved dogs – and Nancy Mitford had a great time over there. As for Saddam Hussein: lots of English entrepreneurs made a fortune from his largesse when they built his palaces and underground shelters – and look how sweet he was to wee Georgie Galloway (and vice versa if you’ll pardon the expression).
Mussolini drove the Mafia out of Sicily to Malta and then on to London, where the Messinas set up one of the most corrupt white slave rings ever known in London from which much wealth flowed, some of it still extant, believe me.
Unless things have changed, the Saudi Princes ship out weekly lots of our ladies of leisure and fill their little purses with the proceeds of black gold for services rendered. Or just get the croupiers at our now laissez faire Casinos to send up a chick or two to their suites. Or in these enlightened days a boy instead perhaps, after they’ve blown their wallet at the tables in public, they can blow their stones in private – all part of the game. I’ll bet they’ve never experienced s trick in a (cue Flanders & Swan) 97 horsepower ‘bus – not even one of Boris’s plush ones, Andy.
There’s always money to be made for those with an eye for the main chance. Fill yer boots fellas. But in the end their always a tab to be picked up – by somebody, either in tax or blood. That’s life I suppose.
And there was me thinking I was the cynic of the site. And confessing my sins only today with the post about the Ten Commandments. FMOBB!
The last company I worked for did have an office in Russia and there were certain “administrative” charges which had to be considered part of the annual budget.
Is this the beginning of the end of an incipient totalitarian Federation of bastard states?
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4921/germany-france-suicide
`Birmingham City Council hid links between Asian cabbies and child sex victims for 23 years.`
Researcher’s pioneering report buried by Council:Dr.Jesson spoke for the first time to the Mail.
“There was a link between sexual abuse of the girls and private hire drivers.I thought there was an issue with race.Most of the girls where white.”
“It wasn’t called grooming then,it was called prostitution.”
Every time a news item has come on about grooming of young girls,and the link between private hire drivers:”I have thought;I have told them about that in 1991 but they didn’t want to acknowledge it.”
(Lengthy article in Birmingham Mail [19 Nov] :referenced by Tommy Robinson.)
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-city-council-hid-links-8131813
Perhaps there is hope for the West after all. Our home grown ‘second generation’ jihadists are as useless as our indigenous dependency generation. Funny black humour riff by Glenn Beck and team:
http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/12/03/letters-from-jihadis-im-fed-up-my-ipod-doesnt-work-here-anymore/
Then this happens:
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justice/new-york-grand-jury-chokehold/
I can write the script for Brillo and FatBot on “This Week” , tomorrow:
[Sigh…] “Where will it end.”
Unfortunately, this case seems to be a clear case of excessive force, thus a manslaughter charge should have ensued. But I don’t buy the racial bias angle judging by the evidence available.. And also we know it won’t end, as the race grievance industry are primed and ready.
Baron,
Great to hear from you, and Tuesday will be fine. I hope this means you are on the mend. How does Patisserie Valerie in Brushfield Street Spitalfields grab you? It is a short walk from Liverpool Street Station, or, if you prefer we could meet at your original suggestion, just name the time. No charge for PPM, I would not have the brass neck to do so.
Cut price house extensions by exploited immigrant workers, cut throat negotiating for profits in Russia. Our little public communist is sounding more and more like a private capitalist.
Radford, the Birmingham Mail article is well worth reading. Many thanks. Why has it not been picked up more widely. This statistic especially, from 2012…
75 per cent of known on-street groomers in the region were Asian, while 82 per cent of girl victims aged 14 to 16 were white.
Colonel Mustard – 07:21
Does telemachus exist, and is he real? “His” online persona has always sounded like a Blair-ite crony capitalist. i.e. ‘Talks the talk’ for the benefit of his sponsors, but only in order to maintain access to the public nipple. In some respects he sounds just like Tony. In another life telemachus, I suspect, would be peddling junk science as a grant troughing climate “scientist”.
Many a true word said in jest as Andrew Klavan dons the mantle (or shirt) of a rocket scientist.
“#GamerGate Forever!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w_NwLLqrDs
stephen maybery @ 05:50
Patisserie Valerie in Brushfield Street Spitalfields ‘grabs’ fine, stephen. The time 13.00 just to make sure British Rail makes it.
A deal?
Btw. Baron will be out of touch until Friday evening. The establishment he’ll stay does have wi-fi, but it doesn’t work. Next communication with you after Friday, sorry.
Four children beheaded by ISIS
http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/convert-or-die/
Peter from Maidstone
December 4th, 2014 – 08:41
Radford, the Birmingham Mail article is well worth reading. Many thanks. Why has it not been picked up more widely. This statistic especially, from 2012…
75 per cent of known on-street groomers in the region were Asian, while 82 per cent of girl victims aged 14 to 16 were white.
This is indeed a horrible state of affairs. But, Peter, I don’t really like the use of the word ASIAN. Surely, Pakistani Moslems would be more accurate, since I don’t think Indians, Chinese or other Asians are the main offenders. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Anne, I was quoting the report.
Baron,
Deal.
Peter from Maidstone
December 4th, 2014 – 10:35
Peter, do you agree with me or do you think I am biased against the religion of peace?
Clear Memories,
😯 Russell Brand is on BBC Question Time tonight.
Start drinking now !
Anne, I agree with you entirely. I think that the news article itself goes on to say that the problem was especially with Pakistani taxi drivers. I just meant that I had not changed the wording myself to excuse the culprits.
Peter from Maidstone
December 4th, 2014 – 10:48
Peter, it really is bad. I remember that when I was a girl, my parents always gave me “taxi money” when I went out, so that if I wanted to return home unaccompanied they knew I would be safe. Those were the days!
Anne, yes that is true. It used to be that a taxi was a safe place. Now it is an easy place for rapists to work.
Breaking news:-
“Security officials said militants traveling in three cars entered the republic’s capital, Grozny, at 1 a.m. local time, killing three traffic police at a checkpoint. The Moscow-based National Anti-Terrorist Committee, a federal agency, said the militants then occupied the multi-story Press House in central Grozny, which was later destroyed by fire, killing six gunmen. Russian news agencies quoted unidentified Health Ministry sources as saying at least 10 officers were killed, but the number wasn’t officially confirmed.
“The Anti-Terrorist Committee said more gunmen had been found in a nearby school and an operation was underway to “liquidate” them. No students or teachers were in the school when it was seized by the militants, RIA Novosti quoted vice principal Islam Dzhabrailov as saying.”
Anne 10.17
Asians: I ALWAYS correct it to Pakistani Muslims, and try to ignore the actual or mental rolling of eyes. But somebody has got to do it.
And why should ‘Paki’ be offensive, unless offence is looked for. And has anyone (any Paki) ever been collared for using the term ‘white trash’? I have heard a Pakistani child use it in conversation with me, (innocently unconscious of the irony), because she had heard it at home. (She was talking about her elder brother, in trouble at home for ‘going out’ with white girls. Ring any bells?) And this was many years ago.
Michael Robertsr
December 4th, 2014 – 11:11
Michael, I completely agree with you.
EC – I won’t get QT until Sat/Sun, depending upon who uploads it to YouTube (the more outrageous the “right wing” comment, the sooner we get it).
If I start drinking now, I might just about tolerate the hypocrite.
Crimewatch tonight (BBC One:9pm) takes-up the case of Charlene Downes and “reconstructs Charlene’s movements on the night she disappeared”.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04tqw6m
EC – Dec 1st, 11:38
James David Manning explains the message to the White Man:
Message to the White Man
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkQVy_95VxQ
RobertC – 15:01
I guess Obama, being up to his arse in alligators with his ACA debacle, was too preoccupied to think about the “freebies” for the midterms. Obamacare became a toxic brand as it had cost in work “liberals” megabucks, and his natural vote didn’t turn out for him either. The next 24 months are going to be very interesting stateside. Will Hillary “what difference does it make” Clinton be able shake off the shame, guilt and stigma of Benghazi?
Anne W.K. at 10.51am.
In November 2008 a presenter at Radio Bristol was sacked after requesting a taxi company to send a white driver to pick up her 14 year old daughter.
(See also link to”Outspoken former Radio Bristol presenter…..in another race row”.I don’t know how the Bristol Post works;but other sites owned by the same company have the red arrow system manipulated by activists.)
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/Local-BBC-radio-presenter-sacked/story-11233024-detail/story.html
If the above link doesn’t work,Google:`bristol bbc radio sacked taxi`.
After several months blundering about in the dark, I will, next Thursday take possession of my new spectacles and will once more be able to take cogniscence of my surroundings. Enthused by Andy’s recent post concerning the goings on in Paris, I shall jump on the 25 to Oxford Circus, and if there is any hanky panky I will offer to make a contribution to the proceedings, although with my luck and location all I’ll get is Diane Abbot doing the dance of the seven veils.
stephen maybery – 16:11
FatBot is going to require seven ship’s sails !
This is what we need more of, i.e. taking the p***. Australia of course. Brilliant.
Hal & Al’s SeventyTwo Virgins
World’s First Anti-Islam Wine Hits the Market
http://www.faithfreedom.org/?p=10564
Radford NG
December 4th, 2014 – 15:38
As far as I am concerned, any taxi driver I engage can be black, white or any shade in between. I absolutely refuse to be driven by a Pakistani since their record is so vile.
EC (15:35)
This may help with your prognostications:
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/generation-o-black-millennials-turning-obama
As the generations formulate in the evolutionary demographical process, my determinist notion becomes more concrete daily!
[genuflects towards effigy of St Mark of Steyn].
EC
It is not wat you do but what you believe
And how you apply your talents to the betterment of society as a whole rather than the Osborne for-us-and-ours attitude peddled hereabouts
*
Fred Engels wrote a letter to Karl Marx’s daughter saying that he had drunk “besides claret, 16 bottles of champagne” to celebrate his 70th birthday, and that “that morning we had had 12 dozen oysters” . He was also a factory owner (like his father) and therefore if you like labels a member of the bourgeoisie.
*
Lenin was asked by a fellow party member why he was travelling in a first class carriage, he responded that it was not first class that the communist revolution wanted to abolish, but second class.
Re earlier posts about Russell Brand on QT and getting oiled up in readiness, better lay of for a bit, it’s next week. But Nige is supposed to be on as well, so let us hope that he (Brand) can be shut up for long enough for our hero to wee all over him. Quite disgraceful that such a tw*t is given a platform at all on what should be a ‘proper’ programme, but par for the BBC course. No doubt the opening of his upper sphincter to spray verbal diarrhoea around will be appreciated by the useful idiots in the audience, but I’ll make a note to get the anaesthetic in.
I have to hasten to add that I decry the failures of communism and recognise the benefits of the profit motive
It is for example why the Poles are such splendid builders
You should watch some of these chaps
Talking about lucky escapes, I understand that Nigel Farage was seen with his hands together and eyes heavenward today
“Mark Pritchard, the Tory MP for the Wrekin, told ITV News that he had seriously considered defecting”
Funny old world
Listening to ITV news I recalled the top posts on this weeks wall
The Border Force is in meltdown
Cut to the hordes prowling the roads around Calais
Jumping onto lorries
No checks this side of the channel
*
Back to my thesis
Lift them out of Calais and deal with them qv
O’Brainwasher strikes again!
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/american_studies/the_little_redder_schoolh.php
Two more years of this shit unless the GOP grows a pair, or some other intervention of a nastier nature brings his tenure to a swift cessation!
H/t Gerard.
Two bits of good news.
The Coffee House Wall is being featured on the UKIP Daily site, and in a poll today the LibDems have slipped into 6th place!!!
Peter
Good! Hope the UKIP surfing service scooped up this little snippet in the Barclay Bugle:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11270174/United-Nations-investigator-describes-British-attitudes-to-immigration-as-bt.html
Cheeky bastard; fuck off Francois! And take your crepeau with you. In 1945 we should have refused to give France back to the frogs and deported all those hiding in Canada to Elba; then – er – tested the next nuke there.
“ ‘Oh no, not my dog! Please, no, not my dog!’ wailed Scott, and started to give it [Rinka] mouth to mouth resuscitation. “
– Simon Freeman and Barry Penrose, ‘Rinkagate’
Telemachus.
FFS! Our indulgence has its limits, behave yourself!
stephen maybery
December 4th, 2014 – 16:11
‘…. although with my luck and location all I’ll get is Diane Abbot doing the dance of the seven veils.’
I’d imagine Austin Barry has already stuck his five pound note in Diane’s stocking, Stephen. Whichever direction you strike out in, you’ll meet him coming back, whistling Danny Boy. That’s judging by his speed off the mark with the Thorpe condolences.
Midst all the dire news of murder mayhem and international insanity the tragic case of the Bristol death of the mother and her newborn babe really tugs at the somewhat sclerotoic strings of my clapped out ticker. ‘Care in the Community’ strikes again! As one who spent almost a decade working to improve hospital security nationally, it is particularly depressing to observe the obvious failure of those in whose care she was placed. One hopes that it isn’t as a result of yet another spate of shunting the deckchairs on the deck of HMS NHS.
Sorry Andy; had I known you were in the process of cheering us up, I would have postponed my depressing last post for a more suitable pause in proceedings. Actually I was living under the misconceprion that Jewemmy had popped his clogs a decade or so ago. He’s obviously been lying doggo, so to speak.
“It is not wat you do but what you believe”
That sums Labour up beautifully. As long as they believe what they do is good it doesn’t matter what misery and injustice results. Or, put another way:-
“Do as we say not as we do”.
Wat an attitude!
Due to popular demand, a revival of the topic of Parisian monkeys (‘minkies’):
Does anyone remember – and more importantly, can they find – the interview in which animal loving screen siren, Brigitte Bardot, rhapsodised about her minkie, lamenting that sometimes their relationship was marred by the little f*cker going ‘peepee’ down whatever piece of Parisian couture happened to be shrouding her incomparable womanly form?
Incidentally, I just can’t wait for the Austin Barry disquis email notifications, which platform is he firing from? I’ll jump over to there forthwith!
CM 19:27 – Never heard it put better than by A.N. Wilson in his biography of Tolstoy:
‘He put the sanctity of his conscience above the public good.’
Frank P 19:30 – Voila
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/Former-Liberal-Leader-Accused-Of-Murder-Dies
Frank, you can follow Austin Barry here….
https://disqus.com/by/austinbarry/
And Satan still walks the earth….
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11273295/Lord-Mandelson-Britain-could-still-join-the-Euro.html
Question Time was tonight the clearest demonstration I have so far seen of the veracity of Sir Richard Mottram’s theorum of the State of The Nation.
And next week’s programme will be the final signed, sealed, fully notated and accredited proof. QED.
Perhaps I should, for the uninitiated, restate the algebraic formula.
WF! YF! IF! WAFF!
ACP (19:38)
Thank you. … I enjoyed that; he’s one of the brightest stars of the firmament , viewed through the prism of the intertubes.
Peter (20:08)
Thank you too: as I implied, I too get the disquis update on AB, but sometimes they are a little tardy. It was instant gratification I was after on this occasion, which as ever, ACP provided. 🙂
Alex Jones – try the first hour of this December 3 show – he is the Cassandra of the new slavery – enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bj4EaiNXRVA
An interesting article on today’s society, with a lot of truths I have seen myself.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/04/The-Sexodus-Part-1-The-Men-Giving-Up-On-Women-And-Checking-Out-Of-Society
Second languages by tube stop. QI.
http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2014/oct/30/-sp-londons-tube-languages-visualised?CMP=share_btn_fb
Nigel being interviewed:
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/02/Nigel-Farage-Will-Answer-Questions-Live-At-530
It looks well produced, but it is depressing how misinformed the ‘intelligent’ youngsters appear to be.
I just watched Daily Politics and there was a piece on Jeremy Thorpe in which the comment was made that homosexuality was illegal then (regarding his alleged affair with Scott in the early 1960s – a mere 50 years ago).
It is a peculiar aspect of politics that the prevailing establishments never consider that what they peddle as “the right thing to do”, both morally and legislatively, might one day be seen as wrong (and sooner than they might think). Is it an arrogance of power or the presumption of having “arrived” at a settled state of belief and a demand that everyone else must comply with that?
When I was young homosexuals were treated as pariahs. Young men going to school were warned about them. The official message peddled by the government of the day and in all institutions was that it was an aberration, wrong, illegal, etc. They were persecuted by the law and by society’s conventions.
Now in the space of less than a lifetime we have progressed from that to gay marriage, to Coburn’s “queens who want to dress up in a bridal frock and dance up the aisle to the Village People”. Absolutely no allowance has been made or sensitivity applied for those who have experienced the reality of that change in terms of what they were once taught and coerced to accept and what they are now told and coerced to believe. They are expected to just shut up and accept that “things change”.
The cynical conclusion I draw from that is that no government can ever pretend to represent a settled state of belief or peddle its legislative morality absolutely. But they do.
The Suns front page. (Yes I know, but it’s in front of me in a pub)
Official sun/yougov poll.
Russell brand.
68% say he’s a hypocrite.
64% say he’s not funny.
Well,who would have believed it.
I’ve never met anyone who believed he was funny.
He seems to be a person the media luvvies adore, and everyone else thinks is an idiot.
John I’ve just seen that headline in Costa Coffee. Who’d have thought it!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11273678/Jeremy-Thorpe-obituary.html
Edward Heath — whom [Thorpe] had once described as “a plum pudding around whom no one knew how to light the brandy”
‘He played Miranda in The Tempest’
LOL!
Andy Car Park (08:08)
Is that Friday’s WTF!! entry?
The first graphic looks like some of Jackson Pollock’s bollock’s. I’m surprised that the UCL ‘researcher’ didn’t realize that and apply to have it hung beside Tracy Emin’s spunk stained sheets in the Tate. He could have been both acclaimed and rich by now, rather than exposing the complete futility of the UCL as a serious hall of academe.
I note that your mutterings, on leaving the Central line at Bank Station, whilst practising your Turkish (sorry – I’ve forgotten which dialect you described) in the effort to increase your chances of getting your leg over some flashing-eyed eastern belly dancer, were not factored into the statistics. So that discredits the project immediately.
‘Is it an arrogance of power or the presumption of having “arrived” at a settled state of belief …?’
If there is a linear relation between time and moral enlightenment (‘progress’), then one generation is in no position criticize its predecessors or judge them by its own higher standards. Similarly, it must accept that the subsequent generation will regard it as morally benighted in some respects.
If there is no such relation, then a generation which claims to have “arrived” at moral perfection must have done so spontaneously, since by hypothesis it cannot be situated on a continuous moral curve. The gap left for want of a rational explanation can only be filled by self-doubt and perhaps a measure of humility about what are fraudulently claimed to be moral certainties.
(And now it’s back to dead dogs on Dartmoor and onanistic monkeys.)
Frank P – OK, point taken. It’s from the Guardian after all. Mind you, it’s only a decade since Barking was as good as ethnically homogeneous, so those East End balloons tell a salutary tail.
The Thorpe obituary is much better value … probably drafted years if not decades before the DT’s descent into the cloaca of Cameroonian apologetics.
Andy Car Park (16:09)
You’ll never know just how grateful I am to you for drawing attention to the Thorpe obit. I would not have bothered without your tempter – and would love to know who penned it. If I were a ‘believer’, you could convince me that Auberon Waugh had been released from purgatory to put the finishing touches to an already prepared piece, which as you so wittily imply, has been lying around for yonks, waiting for the old bugger to pop his clogs. If ever their was a comprehensive response to your perrenial question “WBGTDWI?” this little masterpiece is it.
Moreover, as the author guided us through that delicious period of British history – and as I read it to my missus – it aroused all the sleeping synapses of my memory bank and hers, prompting recall of our own concomitant experiences as I had trawled through the shenanigans of the occupants of the corridors of power and tripped over the mentioned names (and many unmentioned ones involved in even darker stories). Haven’t read anything quite so replete with polished prose and fact-packed, quirky history, since Willy Donaldson published “Both the Ladies and Gentlemen” around about time of the flash point of the Thorpe saga.
H/T of the decade, thanks again.
Sri: di-dit, di-dit – “perennial”, I make that same mistake every year. :-).
Two terrorists are jailed for 12 years and complain that they have been betrayed by the police who have prosecuted their adult sons. A stupid “community leader” says that the police are damaging community relations!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-30348153
“Jeremy Thorpe:The Silent Conspiracy”: Radio 4, tonight,11pm.
Was there an establishment cover-up?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04wz633
The woman who was so embarrassed to be asked to cover up when breastfeeding in Claridges has continued to cope with her embarrassment by appearing on as much of the MSM as possible. And Farage gets dragged into it by a lying news industry that twist the positive comments he made about the normalcy of breastfeeding into something negative that doesn’t represent his comments at all!
Tomorrow there will be demonstration of embarrassed breast feeding women outside Claridges to ease their embarrassment.
“kelpy” at Guido on Boobsgate:-
“What it is is arrogant mumsnet activists who think the world should bow down before them because they pump a rug rat or two, for them their babies are worn like war medals and they expect everyone else to acknowledge how wonderful they are.
“And its usually middle class liberal w*nkers with too much time on their hands and a giant overinflated ego.”
‘S funny, the number of people who only ever see the front page of “The Sun” in the pub or Costa…and never even get to page three!
Lost interest in page three a long time ago
John birch – 14:52 ‘hypocrite?’
The story moves on:
Russell Brand attacks The Sun over ‘hypocrite’ poll: ‘Where d’ya get this stat? Liverpool? Hacking into dead children’s phones?’
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/russell-brand-attacks-the-sun-over-yougov-hypocrite-poll-where-dya-get-this-stat-liverpool-hacking-into-dead-childrens-phones-9905394.html
Radford NG @ 18:12
The broadcast ended with: “This is how things used to be done (or similar words)’. Used to? Hmmm
Shouldn’t we be told if the iron and steel safe still stands on its solid wooden platform, and what files it currently houses?
What a surprise:
Lord Mayor walks out of Islamic charity lunch after his lady consort was told she had to sit downstairs at the event
* Lord Mayor John Thomas was said to be upset at being segregated
* He walked out of the Islamic charity lunch before it had even started
* A source said he had ‘insulted’ other guests by walking out early
* Lunch was to mark the end of charity week, in which £730k was raised
* Councillor Thomas has been on the Leicester City Council since 1995
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2862914/Lord-Mayor-walks-Islamic-charity-lunch-lady-consort-told-sit-downstairs-event.html
Surely, there should a prosecution (of those who arranged the meeting). If this practice can cause schools to be ‘corrected’, then this should not be allowed to pass without punishment. Where are the Feminists, when you need them (not quite true)?
RobertC (00:15)
Perhaps the Mayor should acquire a transcript of this speech and adapt it for presentation in this country; hardly any substance needs to be changed; just the place names:
http://gatesofvienna.net/2014/12/imagine-theres-no-islam-its-easy-if-you-try/
John birch @ 14:52
RobertC @ 23:36
The guy may be a hypocrite and unfunny, boys, but the point he’s making, rather theatrically and maladroitly, in the video below is valid. The concentration of wealth in the hands of fewer and fewer individuals is a fact, google it.
If anything, this trend will probably accelerate as interest rates stay low and, according to a BoE Deputy Governor, are likely to remain low for at least a generation. Many of us will lose alot of purchasing power on whatever savings we may have because most of us don’t have enough to invest big in equities, multiple properties, land or other tangible assets that have the ability of generating higher yields (often at higher risk).
A man who saves £20,000 in twenty years, invest it in equities, can hardly afford to see his investment halved, even transiently, because he may need it to pay for his kids education, but one who has £10mn, invests in the same stock will not despair if he suffers the same fall for he still has £5mn left to play with.
Most of us, and that includes not only wage earners, the retired on fixed income, but some middle class professionals, too, have money on deposit in banks (short or long term deposits, it matters not). These deposits are paying laughable level of interest, even the best of ISAs cannot beat inflation.
What Brand calls ‘the system’ enables only the richest individuals or corporations (all of them multinationals) not only to avoid using deposits to park their cash, go for the high yielders, but also to use tax havens to avoid paying taxes in the countries where they generate most of the wealth. It’s only a guess, but Baron reckons none of you would be in a position to set up a legally safe tax avoiding structure in Monaco, or any other of the tax havens that still exists.
It has always been the case that it’s not the disparity of income but that of wealth that causes social unrest. The last bastion of wealth held by the unwashed of all ranks is the housing stock worth currently over £4.0tr. It’s now under attack through the mansion tax. It may start with the top end of the market, but it will not take long for the tax to be levied on properties below the proposed £2mn. Just one percent levied across the board would raise £40bn, a sum that must make the political class of every hue salivating. It will allow the politicians of any party that happens to be in charge to tie even mor eof us to the purse of the state.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H46hLibhHA#t=529
I particularly liked the Bernard Lewis quote:
“Muslims are not the children of the desert, but the fathers of it.”
Will we ever hear such a speech from the floor of the Palace of Westminster? Before it becomes an elaborate mosque, or the Center for the Implementation of Sharia Law? Unlikely.
RobertC 0015
The organisers should clearly have advised of the arrangements before extending the invitation
I am more interested in the hidden comment in respect of Margaret Corley and Irene Thomas
Peter 1812
Gwangi nailed this on Speccie
“Yet again, the selfish, inconsiderate, self-obsessed and unreasonable women’s ‘rights’ mob aim to accuse anyone who requests that everyone shows good manners to others as somehow chauvinist, when it is THEY who are the bigots.
Nigel Farage is right. Learn some MANNERS, ladies – I have seen women breastfeeding in very discrete ways, for example under a poncho or shawl. The women who do that are considering others’ feelings. After all, why should I or anyone have your leaking nipples in our faces in public – in restaurants when eating, for example., It’s disgusting! Do you want to see MY bodily functions when you are eating. sisters? Grow up, shut up and learn some manners!”
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Much as I decry the man and have published about his Shifty-ness on LBC, I am with him on this
Cameron predictably has come out with the Mumsnet loves
Clegg and Miliband have wisely kept silent
Andy Car Park- December 5th, 2014 – 15:56
(And now it’s back to dead dogs on Dartmoor and onanistic monkeys.)
Private Eye Issue #418 (23rd Dec ’77 – Special Christmas Bad Taste Issue) features Mr Thorpe conducting a choir of schoolboys. The lyrics of the of carol are, “While hit men shot their dogs by night.”
telemachus @ 07:08
Good manners? Discretion? Regard for others? In a society that worships ‘if it feels good, man, do it?’
What the brave ladies perform should be applauded, encouraged, inscribed in law, Baron reckons. Why should some Gwangi and few old men who passed it object to an exhibition of yet another free and untrammelled spirit of the age of the progressives?
Just think what if the proudly public breastfeeding of today’s in-your-face-feminists is but a start of something bigger, more pleasing, earth shattering. What if a display of the act of conceiving in public is to follow?
What’s there to object to? No need to click on port sites, get some virtual replica of the real thing. And who knows what it may lead to if the progressives push it further still. One day one may even hope to get invited to assist, take part, ensure a happy ending both ends….
Let’s go for it, Baron says even if at his age he would be happy to be asked to just help those taking part to put their clothes back on. You with the poorly educated Slav, telemachus?
Colonel Mustard – December 5th, 2014 – 20:33
You’ll no doubt remember that it was the opportunistic self publicist Esther Rantzen (early 1970s?) that started all this off by insisting on deploying her WMD and lactating in public any time that there was member of the Paparazzi close by.
(Weapons of Milk Dispensation)
Baron
I look forward to watching you “assist” “take part,” in breast feeding
But perhaps that bit was referring to something else
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We are all a bit tired of mirthless feminists
I have little doubt that the feeder, financial services guru Lou Roberts was well plugged in to Mumsnet’s Justine Roberts and saw her opportunity for a bit of soapbox
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I trade on caring and reasonableness
Is it caring for Lou Roberts to offend the little old ladies and gents that sit around Claridges
Is it reasonable for Lou Roberts to lambast a hapless waiter who courteously gave her a tasteful drape
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I went to a wedding last summer in Devon where at the pre breakfast reception a younger guest ostentatiously fed her baby in full view when an adjacent room had been set aside for precisely that purpose. I heard a lot of adverse comment exclusively from women
Baron – 00:54 ‘protests, interest rates and returns’
Is the guy attempting to make a point, or a spectacle of himself? I know you shouldn’t knock the opposition, but you shouldn’t sabotage your own side either!
I think the damage is being done to those who would have been wealthy not that many years ago. Not those with millions of pounds in assets including, as you say, several properties, (like so many Labour MPs 🙂 ) but with those with a surprisingly highly priced home and a few hundred thousand elsewhere. Remember, someone retiring from a life long steady job, after earning £39k, pa could easily have a pension fund of £520,000, plus any savings.
These people, those who used to do so much voluntary work, and instigate it, remain in employment because, not unexpectedly, thought they were going to be comfortably off in retirement, and need to top up. While nearly everyone apart from the very rich will be worse off, it is those in the high middle, those who not only worked, but thought about what to do next, decided and worked their socks off will see that their behaviour is not rewarded. So, while the poorer section may ‘suffer’ more, it will be the change in behaviour of the ‘not so poor’ that will have the greatest effect on local communities.
Children used to grow up wanting to be a Doctor and, getting a more or less free education, would return to the community, as a GP. Now, after a paying out a near six figure sum, and years of training, they realise that a job in New Zealand or Australia is a no brainer! Same with nurses, no doubt!
The young do not need more money, they need the opportunities. It has always been the case, but today, we are ‘grown up’ at eighteen or, in Scotland, sixteen!
The young do not realise that company dividends go towards our pensions, gross profits go towards investment and new jobs, or keeping old ones.
Britain may be losing another big company from the FTSE100: BP. How many will celebrate, and then complain about their poverty. How many to aspire to being a Pop Star? How many will start the arduous journey of being an Engineer, especially when pop stars appear to have more influence on energy policy than scientists and engineers?
I don’t think the Brand approach is a constructive one. It isn’t even intelligible!
I think many of the ‘feminist’ modern women are no better than slag heaps. Mainly unmarried women in their mid or late thirties, they inflict their bastards upon society, expecting us to welcome them as new messiahs. Yes, breast feeding is a natural event, but in this ‘Page 3’ society we are forced to live in, breasts are seen as sexual objects. These are no gentle madonnas or primitive mothers feeding their infants, rather they are self-obsessed rejects who themselves feed on the public teat, claiming maternity allowances, time off if they actually work, and the freedom to behave as wild beats in public. Yes, breast feeding is a natural act, but so is having the bowels open and urinating. Why stop there, so are copulation and masturbation!
RobertC @ 11:14
Very little in the narrative of yours the barbarian would disagree with, Robert. The point he was making is almost the same as yours, those of us – a majority – who have savings in cash will continue losing out if the cost of money remains low. Those who are rich beyond reasonable need to live comfortably increasingly benefit more, and get richer still not only because they invest in assets other than those with fixed (and very low) returns, but also because they have enough moolah to park their wealth in ‘tax efficient’ havens.
And you right, too, Brand is afruitcake, his delivery annoys, his manners raise one’s blood pressure, his physical appearance makes one puke. Unfortunately the young seem to be lapping it up, people like him are the equivalent of our generation’s flower people, Baron reckons, his manner of talking, behaving is an example of the standard delivery of ideas suitable for the dumbed down crowd permanently glued to i-things tweeting, facebooking or whatever else they are up with their gadegts.
Is his approach constructive? Probably as much as and on par with that of John and Oko Yono (?) in bed singing “all we are asking….”
“I trade on caring and reasonableness”
You trade mainly on lies, misrepresentations and slagging people off who dare to disagree with you or correct your factually incorrect tripe.
Being “caring and reasonable” is not tagging other peoples comments with pejorative labels or referring to them as “High Sheriff” with a hypocrisy that is quite staggering.
As a supposed Christian, boasting often about your “qualities” you might pay more attention to Matthew 7:5.
telemachus @ 11:06
Lucky you, telemachus, attending weddings with breasts galore.
The one thing nobody has touched on yet is that a display of breastfeeding cannot but raise the hormone level of the young males. That’s inevitable, that’s nature. Some of them, raised in an age where restraint in anything is unfashionable and certainly isn’t encouraged, may go further than just watching.
Baron – 11:58
I agree, totally, but the difference now is that the comfortably off do not have the powerful and very influential on their side any more, because of the reasons you gave.
And as for the ‘Youngsters’, the link in my post, on ‘December 5th, 2014 – 10:47’ provides evidence.
It is worth watching because Farage is given the time to complete most of his points and, on one occasion, he asks one youth with verbal diarrhea, ‘who wound you up?’ 🙂
I found the clip kept jamming, at particular places, and I had to miss a couple of minutes before it would restart, but it was still entertaining!
“Women to serve on the front line for first time”
Would you like tea or coffee?
Is there no end to the insanity that is the messiah?
Even if the sanction leak is only intended to influence the forthcoming election, what TF does he think he is poking his half Islamic nose into the affairs of another sovereign country. He should ensure the post-Ferguson rioting comes to an end, sort the still festering boil of racism in the Republic, leave the Israelis to make up their own mind.
There was a charming quote in one of the links furnished by ACP when Baron was away. Before the messiah arrived, the Republic had Bob Hope, Johnny Cash an Steve Jobs. After eight years of Obama’s rule, there’s no hope, no cash and no jobs.
http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/dunetz-story-about-obama-placing-sanctions-israel-may-well-be-false
Three men and a dog:
The Good,the Bad,and the Ugly……and a dog named Rinka.
For some reason the`links`don’t work;but google*rinka the dog images*and see image of 3 men & black dog.
RobertC @ 12:10
The big black guy at the right was unbearable in that link of yours at 10.47, but overall the most encouraging thing was the people voting on whether they agree with Nigel or not.
Unfortunately, every party has to deal with youngsters of this sort – no experience, brainwashed by the BBC and MSM, ready to break with the older generation if only because they think they know better. As it happens, the nutter Brand appeals to them, he speaks their language, mimics their mannerism, can get to them. When he touches on a subject, the touch is right why dismiss it only because one dislikes the messenger?
I don’t think that what Brand says is right, and I also despise him. He is a leftist. There is nothing conservative about him at all. He would wish to destroy everything that remains. He is absolutely part of the enemy.
I’ve trying to say this for many years; even penned little paraphrased bit hither and thither, but George Carlin has done it all in one fell swoop and saved me the trouble of further meagre attempts:
http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/5minute_arguments/george_carlin_on_saving_t.php
Wonderful!
H/t Gerard (lots of other good shit over there, too, this weekend, if you are at a loose end and want to end the mourning stint for Jewwemy. I hope Delingpole has seen it.
Baron – 20:09
And NF did well. Sometimes an easy ride can be a car crash!
PfM 20:21
I share your view. I think that he is stupidly evil and it shows in his face and eyes.
The fact that so many young people seem taken in by him is depressing.
Peter from Maidstone @ 20:21
Peter, just to save you time, read only point 8 of the link, come back, tell Baron you think the way Starbucks runs its operation in Europe is kosher, please.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmselect/cmpubacc/716/71605.htm
Frank P @ 21:37
Top link, Frank, it boosted the barbarian’s mood no end.
Why is it that some have the ability to say what many think, cannot articulate in a way that’s entertaining, resonant, and not running for pages or hours?
Colonel Mustard @ 22:31
Baron finds it puzzling more than depressing that the guy’s on-line rants attract up to a million hits. Whether one likes him or not (like you, Baron’s in the not camp), there must be something that the young find appealing. Why else would they spend time listening to him rather than indulging in what young people usually do today: bonking, drug taking or sleeping. What is it, Colonel?
All who are writing about Brand:
Why are we giving the publicity-seeking, scruffy, junked-up, wild-eyed, self-confessed cottage wanker more oxygen?
Oath Keepers
Not sure if this has been mentioned here before. Mail Online reports that a mysterious group called the Oath Keepers have been protecting people’s businesses from looters and rioters in Ferguson, USA. The comments underneath the article indicate that this group has support from the public. There is another report that the American government has tried to take away the baby of one of the members of this group.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2855736/Ferguson-police-shut-armed-Oath-Keeper-vigilantes-guarding-rooftops.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1319827/Couple-newborn-baby-taken-away-fathers-involvement-Oath-Keepers.html
dg
Yes. Oath Keepers has been mentioned one or two times here before Ferguson, but nobody until you I believe has mentioned their work in Ferguson.
The organisation is not particularly mysterious. They have a website at http://oathkeepers.org/oath
Military and other uniformed personnel in the USA take an oath, presumably to God and themselves,to defend the Constitution of the USA, not to an individual or institution. They swear to uphold and protect it from all enemies foreign AND DOMESTIC.
The right to organise pursuant to this oath flows from the oath being a lifetime obligation which survives the oath swearer’s period of service. That is underpinned by the 2nd Amendment which identifies the people’s right to keep and bear arms and to maintain a well-regulated militia, which shall not be infringed, being necessary to preserve a FREE state.
I notice that the “About Oath Keepers” section of the website emphasise that “…That oath, mandated by Article VI of the Constitution itself, is to the Constitution, not to the politicians, and Oath Keepers declare that they will not obey unconstitutional orders, such as orders to disarm the American people…”.
It is perhaps in the United Kingdom that these concepts are “mysterious” and I note that the Daily Mail article supplies those quotation marks”.
There are deep suspicions about the Oath Keepers in Ferguson and elsewhere
“The man said he was security and would be up there at night with others to protect the pocket of second-story apartments and lower-level storefronts near the Ferguson Police Department. A day earlier, rioters had broken out windows below Hildebrand’s apartment in the 100 block of South Florissant Road and torched a nearby beauty supply store.
“I am in the middle of a difficult spot,” Hildebrand said. “I feel a lot better having those guys up on the roof.”
But he wasn’t clear exactly who “those guys” were or where they came from.
Puzzled and alarmed protesters have wondered, too — some accusing the mysterious guards in military fatigues of being in the Ku Klux Klan.”
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Certainly there are parallels with such groups as the EDL
Meanwhile thankfully our police protect us here
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“Three men have been arrested by counter-terrorism officers on suspicion of supplying forged documents, the Metropolitan Police has said.
The three men, aged 28, 33 and 30, remain in custody at a police station in central London.
A search linked to these arrests has been carried out in the East Midlands, while searches at two addresses in London are ongoing, police said.
The men were arrested by the Met Police’s counter-terrorism unit.
The latest arrests follow dawn raids in London on Thursday in which a 40-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to possess and supply fraudulent documents.”
And of course Breitbart reminds us that racism is not just one way
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“According to a police report, at about 5:30 a.m., a Bosnian woman was driving on the 4600 block of Lansdowne when three black males in their late-teens to early-20s stepped in front of her vehicle.
When the woman tried to drive around them, the suspects reportedly pulled out a firearm, so she stopped the car.
After hitting her windshield with a crowbar, the suspects pulled the woman from her car, threw her on the ground and kicked her.
A suspect grabbed her purse, searched it, and told the others it was empty. All three suspects then fled the scene.
Police say the woman said she thought the crime was racially motivated because the suspects asked her if she was Bosnian.”
The FBI only have jurisdiction within the United States of America which is limited to Washington D.C.
Do Englishmen derive their rights from God? Any constitutional lawyers on the Wall and up to speed?
Alexandr
Gold as “a 6,000 year old bubble”
Here is an article by Michael Pento appearing today with a response to the Citigroup type, Wilhelm Buiter, who commented disparagingly gold just before the Swiss referendum last week which I quoted here on the Wall:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2014/12/6_Bankers,_Media,_Governments_%26_Anti-Gold_Propaganda.html
Good luck with your collecting!
The guru has spoken, peace broke in he valley of his people, Baron’s lips are shut on the subject of what’s-his-name?
telemachus @ 06:37
Yes, the police, totally void of any corruption, untouched by political considerations, and scrupulously objective do drive in vehicles that proudly display ‘to serve, to protect’, so you must be right, telemachus, except for the tiny number of exceptions to the appraisal of yours like the 1400 abused young girls, Cliff Richards home raid, unlawful hacking of phones ….
Btw, on your travel around the world, ever come across a police force that had it in its terms of reference not to serve and not to protect?
telemachus @ 06:43
If the girl were armed (if people in this country could bear arms for personal protection) is it more or less likely the three thugs were to commit this crime, telemachus?
Dear Baron
You make some good points but please advise what the police did wrong in relation to the Cliff Richard
The end of the Telegraph blogs is good news. These people have way too much power and the more they control the debate (which is how they use digital media now), the worse.
There is nothing but censorship, paid-for trolling and the collecting of information for the security services. Talking of which, it is now an established fact that Sir Peter Hayman, the former head of MI6 was an ocean-going nonce.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2827378/Diplomat-Peter-Hayman-named-VIP-sexually-abused-boys-Dolphin-Square-apartment-complex-near-Parliament.html
If the chief is doing it, so are the Indians. And to that effect there is an awful lot of spinning from the security services around the VIP paedophile cover-up. This peice of spin was fed to the Mail via an ex-Scotland Yard bod:
A former senior Metropolitan Police detective offered this explanation last night: ‘You have to remember there was a Cold War still going on. Allegations concerning a senior British politician would have been of great interest to the Kremlin.
‘For that reason, Special Branch and the security services would almost certainly have been aware of these claims, and might have had a hand in suppressing them.’
Many will think that is an Establishment cover-up by any other name.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2862860/Inside-house-horrors-Revealed-chilling-boy-taken-infamous-gay-brothel-gave-senior-politician-said-abused-police-left-MP-s-report.html
Ah! National security. They were all at it and some still are: Parliament and especially the securty services who don’t want a spotlight shone on their nonce factory: ‘National security. No questions. Got it? We were protecting you from the bogeyman in the Kremlin.’
I’m less afeared of the bogeyman in the Kremlin than I am of the public school nonces in the security services who seem to exploit their ultimate power in a way that would have made Caligula blush. Have they been double blackmailed into crawling up Islam’s bottom in return for a blind eye to their noncery? They’re very good at crawling up bottoms.
I should spell out to the telemachus thing that chief and Indians is a metaphor, not a real concept. Although I think he/she likes to deliberately misinterpret a lot of things purely for political gain.
Malfleur @ 09:11
If, after WW2, the world financial system were still restrained by gold standard ie the currencies linked to gold, we would not have had the same miraculous boost to living standards anywhere in the world. Gold may be all the commendable things the Citi guy says, it has one major drawback to be deployed as a regulatory tool for the economy. There ain’t enough of it, annual output runs around 2500 tons.
The beauty of paper money is that it may be ‘created’ at near zero cost in any quantity required. And it was credit creation after the war that together with cheap energy has given us a world (well, mostly the Western world) riches no generation before us could even dream to have – enough food that half of it gets wasted, ordinary retired people travelling the world for decades, young people sitting on their arses getting subsidised by the tax revenues of an economic entity capable of such wealth creation ….
We’ve overdone the credit creation capacity of paper money and, as every fool knows, any overindulgence leads to pain, but a sensible use of the credit creation of paper (computer bits) money is unquestionably worth keeping. Without it we will graze to survive.
re: Oath Keepers.
Machine guns carried by armed militas from an English speaking country, that’s a worrying sight. Militias suit the USA’s culture, laws, rights, and history. George Washington was a Militia man right or wrong? For Britain, as a small island, a militia like that would be a nightmare for everyone. Not only Oath Keepers worry me but the Private Military Companies that are working in Ukraine.
EDL solve what? They rabble rouse against Muslims, waste police time, ranting and raving like loons as they do so. Tommy Robinson is a working class demagogue who isn’t working hard enough to educate himself on basic matters of history, language, and culture. He’s going to make more and more mistakes because he doesn’t know what he’s doing. He has a vague notion that something is going wrong, but he obviously has no clue what to do. He only sees with his eyes, not with his education because he hasn’t received a decent one. The EDL is useless and unattractive, also in many ways it is wrong. Besides, there’s no moral core to guide the members. So they end up doing wrong very often.
Oath Keepers are quite different to our EDL, which is a thuggish street movement that encourages people to riot instead of think. Oath Keepers, now think about the name for a moment. It is a very powerful name that implies that its members have a moral code and a sense of honour. They’re trying to say that they keep their word (while their opponents in the ruling classes don’t keep their oath). They aren’t rioting, they aren’t acting like demagogues, they aren’t ranting and raving about Muslims. They said that the local government hadn’t protected shops on Monday, that the government would come on Tuesday. Oath Keepers went to Ferguson on the Monday to protect local shops from rioters and looters. They saw that the government wasn’t doing its duty and stepped in to protect locals. Oath Keepers is providing a service (protection from violence) for local people. It’s only a matter of time before the Black Panthers start their own rival militias.
It’s very worrying to see a group like that which carries guns and weapons that is prepared to resort to violence. How scary to see the changes happening in America, from here it looks like America is flushing itself down a plughole. Chaos is on the way to America.
This is not the first comment I have read from telemachus on this subject and it does make me wonder if this person is a paid-up troll:
telemachus
December 7th, 2014 – 06:37
“Meanwhile thankfully our police protect us here”
All such stories are trailed endlessly by security service spin doctors in order to let successsive Home Secretaries become more Big Brotherish. It’s one of those areas – like mass immigration – that LibLabCon really do all blend into one.
It reads as if this person has been told: ‘Embed yourself with these people who fear Islamic terror and use their fear against them. That way we can spy on them some more and protect are precious little Muslim darlings as we enshrine the Sharia.’
You can see the LabCon crossover in the columns of Jamie Bartlett, a leftist think tank favourite writing in a Tory rag (the Telegraph) and working with senior old Tory duffers connected to the security services. Labourite Bartlett has made the internet his specialised subject and he works hand in hand with Tory toffs: they want free speech clamped down on and debate manipulated. On that, as with immigration, they agree.
“Meanwhile thankfully our police protect us here” – no, no, no.
Talking of legal manipulation, I found out recently that Tommy Robinson’s conviction for mortgage fraud wasn’t even related to his own property but to something he signed on someone else’s application.
By contrast, this £3 million property fraud netted no jail sentence at all (white collar fraud rarely does).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2851703/Two-greedy-RBS-bankers-used-jobs-run-3million-property-fraud-escape-jail-judge-says-suffered.html
According to the Telegraph, James Harding is standing up to the coalition government.
“BBC boss: ‘We won’t cave in to politicians after bias row’
News chief James Harding undeterred amid complaints of ‘systematic exaggeration’ over Autumn Statement”
This is the same James Harding who was the editor of The Times between 2007 and 2012. Now which newspaper was most loyal to David Cameron since he became leader of the Conservative Party? I forget. 😉
Anybody else having trouble leaving any type of comment at all underneath Telegraph articles? Are they still using Disqus?
dg, I do agree about the EDL, far too amateurish. Even so, I do think Robinson was genuine at the time in his views and not a security service stooge. Although I think he is one now, having joined up with the deeply sinister Quilliam Foundation.
I really do believe that Britain First is a stooge group set up by the security services (at the behest of Theresa May) to be a spoiler party for UKIP: taking votes from it, smearing it and keeping an eye on unsuspecting people who might join it.
Street protest is pointless these days given the draconian laws designed to stop it. If you want to hit them, hit them in the ballots. More and more people have worked that out and that’s why the Establishment are xxxting themselves. They prefer the old days of beating people in the street and smearing them as troublemakers. They weren’t supposed to lose real political power. ‘Fetch me the postal votes,’ as the LibLabCon are wont to say, this is an emergency!
My old website is here: http://www.britishreactionary.co.uk/divorce.html
It has some boring things and some interesting old things if you’re willing to spend some time checking out the details. I’ve decided to close it down soon and open a book review site, but I haven’t got much cash at the moment to buy a new domain name.
If I wrote up some book reviews would it be possible to get them posted here? Just for fun more than anything else. Forget the Telegraph and Breitbart, let’s make our own entertainment.
dg, the Tories pull this one about nine months before every general election to try to make the BBC cower in the run-up to it. The BBC and Tories – I hope they both lose!
Thanks Chimp Smoker, I’ve enjoyed reading your posts here since the last week or so that I’ve been lurking. Always enjoy reading Frank P, Andy Car Park, Peter from Maidstone, Anna, Baron, and everybody else too. It’s funny that this site started off as a little thing on the Spectator website but the quality here is far higher than the rubbish posted on that site today! Did you see Theresa May’s photo shoot? Every time she says ‘national security’ you know it’s a cheap power grab on her part. She’s some type of liberal pin up girl weirdo. What they rarely mention is that she’s a devout Anglican, not sure what this means or why it’s not talked about. Besides, it’s very wonderful that people are remembering Auberon Waugh.
Worth a look if you are patient and understanding:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rochester_and_Strood_%28UK_Parliament_constituency%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rochester_and_Strood_by-election,_2014
The fact is, everybody involved in a by-election is reading and editing Wikipedia. Pretty soon they’re going to have to clamp down on Wikipedia, just like they are clamping down on the Telegraph comments.
telemachus 09:35 “please advise what the police did wrong in relation to the Cliff Richard”
“A police raid at the home of veteran pop star Sir Cliff Richard has been described as inept by a group of MPs. The home affairs select committee said South Yorkshire Police should not have tried to cut a deal with a BBC reporter who approached them about the story.
“The committee’s report looked into how the BBC obtained details in advance of the raid in Berkshire on 14 August. South Yorkshire Police said its actions were well intended but admitted they were “ultimately flawed”.”
The prurient practice of the police inviting the media to film high profile arrests, let alone searches of premises in the absence of the owner(s), has been imported from the USA (“the perp walk”) as a type of intimidating propaganda about the power of the state.
In ‘Old England’, before it was occupied by an EU puppet government staffed mainly by unelected Marxist Long Marchers, the police would act discreetly, with the minimum use of force only where necessary and no unnecessary use of force, in conducting enquiries into persons who were simply suspects or accused. That was because the police recognised the Peelian principle that they were the public and the public were the police. The police were not ‘set over’ the public and were not the enforcement arm of an oppressive state. They were efficient in their public duty without resorting to unleashing gangs of balaclava masked, paramilitary, tolled-up thugs in uniform to smash their way into the houses of people selling, wait for it, copyright violating DVDs, with the sensationalist media eagerly filming the excessive display of violence and force.
Now they routinely resort to that use of violence and force as a matter of “procedure” in making arrests before even the full facts of an allegation or complaint have been investigated. They routinely exert the power of the state through New Labour distorted law to take away a person’s freedom, damage his property and subject him to public speculation and embarrassment, simply on the basis of an unsubstantiated complaint. Breaking into a person’s home without first requesting entry and having entry refused used to be illegal, with or without a warrant. Even the Gestapo used to knock on the door and demand entry before breaking it down. Now the breaking in is procedural and not preceded by any request for entry, but the use of such extreme force has never been debated in Parliament or consented to by the public. It goes against every principle by which the police in England were established and supposed to conform to.
Then there is the curious contradiction. That the police having done all the justice system then warns the media and public that they should not discuss or disclose elements of any case against the suspect or accused (often uncharged and on unlimited police bail) which might prejudice it. The greatest prejudicial act conceivable preceded that and was perpetrated by the police themselves.
Bonkers.
Chimp Smoker, December 7th, 2014 – 09:45
Is he/she actually real, and does it pass the Turing test? The evidence might suggest(blogs passim) that tele’ is possibly only a cyber marxist, albeit more than one bit short of several bytes – an electronic Dave Spart in Private Eye terms.
I’m speculating that conversations with some early ’70s, crudely programmed, PDP-11s gave Douglas Adams the idea for the technology marketed by the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation, the primary manufacturer and supplier of androids, robots and autonomic assistants for the known universe. Their USP was that they were supposedly supplied with “Genuine People Personalities” and chirpy catchphrases. The SCC were not, however, known for the quality of their products:
“It is very easy to be blinded to the essential uselessness of their products by the sense of achievement you get from getting them to work at all. In other words – and this is the rock solid principle on which the whole of the Corporation’s Galaxy-wide success is founded – their fundamental design flaws are completely hidden by their superficial design flaws.”
The Hitchhiker’s Travel Guide describes the Marketing Department of the Sirius Cybernetics Corporation as:
“A bunch of mindless jerks who’ll be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.”
Our current PPE graduate never had a real job, PR driven political elite have a great deal in common with the SCC.
As someone else once said, “May the farce be with you!”
Colonel Mustard – 11:27
Hear! Hear!
Frank P, Noa.
Do you think that Nigel actually reads the CHW? Progress?
Nigel Farage [@Nigel_Farage 43 minutes ago]
“I am delighted to announce that Paul ‘Gobby’ Lambert is set to become UKIP’s new Director of Communications. He’s one of the best in town.”
http://www.ukip.org/bbc_veteran_paul_lambert_joins_ukip_s_media_team_as_director_of_communications
Interesting wikipedia links, dg. I followed that by-election very closely indeed and the digital battle was ferocious and dirty. The local newspaper KentOnline (which hosts Medway Messenger) was very quiet until the Tory candidate was chosen, after that all sorts of interlopers appeared, the thumbs ub/thumbs down votes for comments wen off the scale (this was clearly not the usual readership).
This modus operandi has been used before in print. LibLabCon candidates would get friends and spouses to write in to the Letters page of local newspapers (one of the few pages most readers used to read) and that has simply been expanded on a massive scale for the digital battle.
There is nothing ‘doddery’ in the LibLabCon spin machines. Lynton Crosby is effing and jeffing as hard as Alastair Campbell (his spinning poison killed off the Australian version of UKIP). It’s all going on out there, don’t take anything at face value until you’ve thought it through. These spin doctors are spending night and day to adapt to the digital landscape.
Just the Telegraph alone is an object lesson in manipulating digital crowds: You can comment on this today, but not this. That is how a news agenda is set. That’s the super objective for the day. And then within that come the smaller objectives, we can ban you, delete you, hand your details over to the security services, have some paid-up trolling interspersed with this lot. Believe you me, it is all going on.
Weekly round-up, The Time had front page splash about UKIP ‘fixing’ candidates. I think they did what the other parties do and chose them. So this was a bit like The Times’ behaviour in the Euro elections.
And then later in the week Nigel Farage said I’m not interested in breast feeding but I do understand the concept of my gaff, my rules, which is what seems to have been said at Claridges. This was then deliberatley misinterpreted by the Mail and Telegraph as Nigel Farage hates breast-feeding women. We’ve got six more months of this xxxx to put up with.
Lynton Crosby’s Tactics (copied from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lynton_Crosby)
Tactics
Crosby is described as favouring what is called a wedge strategy, whereby the party he advises introduces a divisive or controversial social issue into a campaign, aligning its own stance with the dissenting faction of its opponent party, with the goal of causing vitriolic debate inside the opposing party, defection of its supporters, and the legitimising of sentiment which had previously been considered inappropriate. This is also described as “below the radar” campaigning, with the targeting of marginal constituencies with highly localised campaigning, latching on to local issues and personalities.[1] To find such issues, Crosby’s business partner Mark Textor runs focus groups to find which groups to target with what questions.[15] Crosby is said to run a tight ship, focus on simple messages, target marginal constituencies and use lots of polls.[3]
His tactics have included:
During the 2001 Australian federal elections, Howard government ministers falsely claimed that seafaring asylum seekers had thrown children overboard in a presumed ploy to secure rescue and passage to Australia, and Howard, in the final days of the campaign, launched a slogan that later grew notorious: “We will decide who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come”.[16]
Hegelian Dialectic mixed with local messages
Pieces of Eight – The ECHR strikes again!
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/12/06/Payout-France-Somali-Pirates
Colonel Mustard
December 7th, 2014 – 11:27
My problem with all that is that I listened last night to Tom Mangold on Jeremy Thorpe
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04wz633
The link should work but if not go to iPlayer Radio 4 and scroll to Friday 5/12 at 2300
“… Nigel Farage hates breast-feeding women.”
If he’s experiencing discomfort then he should try rubbing some calendula cream on his nipples between feeds.
Regarding the furore over the fact that Claridges provided a breast feeding young mother with a large napkin to facilitate her covering up.
This is a ‘con’ the papers show a before and an after photograph, each obviously taken at the same table one after the other and by the same camera, why would she want the first photograph other than to show the second one as a comparison?
It was she who posted these photographs ‘on line’ and by so doing attracted even more attention than the original incident.
dg @ 10:24
Although I would not like the present powers in the City to take the hint, your idea that militia are not in the English tradition does not look far enough into those traditions. We have already mentioned the right to bear arms, now pretty much a dead letter but once a plank of the constitution. The trained bands are also a case in point. Their purpose and function would of course be to prevent a nightmare rather than to cause one. Our liberty is attacked by stealth precisely because the attack is unpopular and by a minority.
“…EDL, which is a thuggish street movement that encourages people to riot instead of think. “..
I think you must have been looking at the counter-demonstrations organised by the UAF underwritten by Mr. David Cameron, since your comment is inconsistent with the record. By the way, the pieces on the EDL website are quite clearly not written by a thug, though I do not know who the author is. There seems to be an effort to educate here http://www.englishdefenceleague.org/ albeit the focus of the EDL is somewhat narrow. The design of the site seems to have been updated since my last visit by the way.
dg @ 10:40
I am sure Peter and all other Wallsters would welcome book reviews from you.
While former American Judge Napolitano has called for Congress to impeach Obama for granting to illegal immigrants by executive order, the alternative media has discovered that Obama did not actually sign the order.The government of the USA is collapsing into clownish but purposeful anarchy – all very well for Transylvania, but with ominous implications for all of us where it is the USA.
http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/amnesty-shocker-the-secret-behind-obamas-order/
EC @ 13:02
Nothing shocks anymore, EC, the French will go through abit of huffing and puffing, pay up in the end.
If this court decision were to help combating piracy even marginally, one could perhaps stomach it, but if anything the compensation reward will only encourage others to join the ranks of the sea marauders.
The sooner we get out of the farce the ECHR is, the better, and judging by the comments below the piece, out it will be, there’s not one posting in support of the thugs of the sea, plenty of backing for the Russian approach though. That’s bad for Putin for it furnishes yet another reason why the Western elites are so determined to have him follow the fate of Yanukovych.
dg @ 12:49
Crosby and everyone else in the political cum MSM establishment will try every trick in the book and more to convince the electorate to turn away from UKIP. Nigel is seen by them as the domestic Putin, someone who doesn’t subscribe to any of the dogmas of the progressives.
The question is will they succeed? Baron reckons they won’t, the unwashed have finally woken up, nothing short of physical intimidation or cheating at the count can turn them back. What will also help is the economy. It feels we are likely to follow Europe, slide into a near recession just before the election.
Malfleur @ 14:15
You wrong, dg right, Malfleur. It ain’t the British way to take up arms, hoi polloi in this country have their own way to change the compass direction for the country, the ‘healthy core of Englishness’ prefers a low key approach of the ballot box, and they are to deploy it again next May. Marx, the bearded wonder of the Left, got this spot on when he quipped that ‘if the British were to have a revolution, it will be only in gardening’. And there’s little wrong with gardening here.
Malfleur, December 7th, 2014 – 15:02
Thanks for that link. There’s also a very interesting interview with “de judge” here:
(in which he answers your question of 09:01 – for Americans at any rate)
http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/judge-napolitano-impeach-obama-for-amnesty/
also: he’s got a new book out:
“Suicide Pact: The Radical Expansion of Presidential Powers and the Assault on Civil Liberties” [Amazon Kindle Edition £9.88]
I am of the view that the Western reaction to islam and its followers will happen, not in Britain, but on the continent, and that we will follow their lead.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6650-the-netherlands-without-islam
It seems that, in the short run at least, we’re all doomed, Terminator style. Still the good news is that should solve the jihad problem.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30290540
On the other hand there is a glass half full brigade on the question of AI. If might even help the comrade and his ilk….
http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/the-robots-are-not-taking-over/16299#.VITCD74jhFI
Baron @ 16:52
We are not talking revolution, Baron; we are talking self-defence. Also, you have not addressed my point on English history and the right to bear arms and the trained bands. This is the anglosphere, which the others are trying to dismantle – or undermine – like the moles in your garden against which I remember you were canvassing all kinds of unpleasant measures earlier in the year. The English, generally speaking, do not let your mole run rampant.
EC @ 18:12
Thanks for ther link. It promises to blow up a storm here this morning and so I plan to stay in bed and listen to it. I like the Judge’s book and will try to buy the one you mention for myself for Christmas.
Noa @ 20:34
It’s going to take quite a bit of weeding.
I see that Obama has been hospitalized for ‘acid reflux’. Not connected with the message sent by the recent intrusions into the White House I hope.
I read your comments on Fraser Nelson with interest. On Twitter a couple of weeks ago I challenged him calling him a liar as he had promised, following Neather, an article on immigration. None came. He replied that he never made a promise. I pointed out that he had made it to me. Never came back. The man is hopeful of a job in Whitehall somewhere, I believe.
Also I too miss Verity greatly. She was a beacon of common sense and we are the poorer without her. The lady hath vanished, sadly.
I am also convinced that Farage is advised what is written here.
I read your comments on Fraser Nelson with interest. On Twitter a couple of weeks ago I challenged him calling him a liar as he had promised, following Neather, an article on immigration. None came. He replied that he never made a promise. I pointed out that he had made it to me. Never came back. The man is hopeful of a job in Whitehall somewhere, I believe.
Also I too miss Verity greatly. She was a beacon of common sense and we are the poorer without her. The lady hath vanished, sadly.
I am also convinced that Farage is advised what is written here.
Si vis pacem, para bellum – this means: if you want your garden, get rid of the moles.
Malfleur, it’s interesting just how ancient and modern the idea of an armed militia among the ordinary people is. In the Anglo-Saxon times it was the Fyrd. There were local armed militias based on the counties after the Civil War and there was a requirement that able bodied men have their own arms and be trained in them (as I know you know). Even at the end of the 19th century there were over 250,000 volunteer militia members who had their own arms. They became the Territorial Army in the early 20th century. That’s 250,000 armed and trained men, prepared to defend their country when the population of England was only 15 million males. And many more would have had arms and not been enrolled in the militia.
The Bill of Rights, 1689, says…
That the Subjects which are Protestants may have Arms for their Defence, suitable to their Condition, and as allowed by Law.
We didn’t lose the right to carry arms for self defence until 1937…
Firearms cannot be regarded as a suitable means of protection and may be a source of danger
And in 1968 when it became necessary to justify having a lawful reason, not including self defence, to be carrying a weapon.
That’s a very long history of an armed population. Indeed I am of the first generation to grow up being pretty much entirely disarmed. Even I can still remember walking around with an air rifle to go and shoot at a friends garden. Not any more. That’s at least 1000 years of an armed citizen militia.
Peter
I like the “natural rights” argument which is expressed through the American Declaration of Independence. Rights with which we have been “endowed” by our Creator are “unalienable”. They precede the constitution which merely decides what authority the people shall loan the government. The right to bear arms is still with us; but it is being infringed.
Mole removal?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11278517/Theresa-May-cancels-familys-British-citizenship.html
We didn’t lose the right in 1937 or 1968. It was just sidelined by procedural precedents around licensing, some of which were less than transparent and of questionable legality, implemented by collusion between the Home Office and police. During the war the Home Guard retained their arms without any problems but after the war the Home Office reverted to its default risk averse position of treating free Englishmen as children to be supervised and controlled.
The 1689 right has never been repealed but is just ignored. There is a Parliamentary briefing paper on it which illustrates the extent to which it is scorned:-
http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN00293.pdf
“The Bill of Rights was essentially a political settlement concerned with resolving the particular political issues of the day. The relevance of some of its provisions to the political life of today is questionable. It is generally thought that, in relation to the provisions in the Bill of Rights on the bearing of arms, for example, and to other unrepealed articles, the courts would have difficulty in trying to apply some the
provisions to modern conditions, particularly given the brief and often imprecise wording used in the Bill.”
Now we are in the situation where for example Somali criminals carry and use firearms to murder people but law abiding citizens are rendered defenceless.
I am concerned that UKIP prefers a candidate whose son wears his hat back to front. Getting mine to wear them the right way round is one of my few victories in the culture wars.
Malfleur – 23:45
The danger is when the hat is the right way round, but the wearer is facing the wrong way.
Malfleur @ 21:41
An error on Baron’s part, Malfleur, and an apology, the brbarian assumed you’ve talking about an armed uprising.
No point repeating Peter’s posting at 22.32, Colonel’s at 23.43 except that the personnel at arms was always assumed to be deployed in the command of those in authority.
This goes back to statutes of Henry II and Edward I when the defence of counties was entrusted to the Sheriff, with enlarged powers, as the Head of the county forces, each adult man was required to furnish arms according to his estate. In the reign of Mary, the Sheriff f was replaced by the Lord Lieutenant of the county. At the Restoration, this militia was declared (with all other forces by sea and land) to be under the sole charge and control of the crown, and it was then and has been ever since often reorganised, restructured and renamed (eg the Dad’s Army in WW2), but in substance since Mary’s time, it has always been an auxiliary force of the Crown (militia, yeomanry, volunteers of any sort).
Btw, even though the principle that the Crown could not raise and keep a standing army, in time of peace, without the consent of Parliament was established by the Bill of Rights, the existence of a permanent military force has never been recognised by any statute. Since 1969, only annual Acts known as Mutiny Acts (since 1881 as Army Acts) have been passed limiting the number and type of forces the Crown may raise and maintain in that year. The same annual ritual remains in place today.
Apologies for the lecturing, but the idea that people possess arms to form a militia not under the control of the Crown or its agents has always been a non starter here.
Strapworld @ 22:08
Since the chastening of the Old Australian, Fraser Nelson has been trying to repent for the sin of being once in the employ of Murdoch (he wrote for the NoW, was the top columnist for it, tried to defend the paper’s record when it folded up). He (Nelson) hopes the loony Left will forgive him. That should tell you something about the man’s judgement, strapworld.
Verity is a loss, but what saddens more is that one suspects it may have been atrophia that stopped her posting.
RobertC @ 09:44
Good one, Robert.
Stephen, you still OK for the book signing (buying) tomorrow?
The barbarian has been experiencing problems when he tries to post, Peter, the screen jumps up and down and just now one bit disappeared completely. Are you adjusting the site, or is it just the positioning of Baron’s rural abode with painfully slow speeds?
The state of North Dakota has named a new publicly-owned landfill after President Barack Obama.
When completed, the Barack Obama Memorial Landfill will be the largest waste disposal site in North Dakota, and the 17th largest in the United States. It will be especially rich in toxic waste from the local petroleum and medical industries.
Republican State Senator Doug Perlman said: “We originally planned on naming it after a nearby mountain. But then someone jokingly suggested we name it after Obama. I never thought an idea like that would actually pass. But I was pleasantly surprised.”
“I can’t think of a better name,” says Joe Blough, a plumber from Minot. “It’s darkly colored and it’s full of shit. That pretty much sums up Obama.”