The Coffee House Wall – 11th/16th March

Posted on March 11, 2013

This is the Coffee House Wall for this week. I won’t say that it is your chance to communicate with us, as we are all in this together. It is, nevertheless, the Conservative Blog post that has no particular theme, and where everything is on topic. Let’s just remember that we want to avoid ad hominem attacks on others. We don’t want to engage with trolls. We want to moderate our language ourselves as responsible and mature adults, choosing to use fruity language only where it is necessary. This is our opportunity to show what the Spectator Coffee House Wall could have been like.

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274 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 11th/16th March”

  2. With apologies to P from M, I forgot that when I posted my last post yesterday night, that it would be a new thread this morning and most people, myself included, do not go back. They get involved, immediately, in the new thread.

    So here again is a wonderful link that I happened across yesterday and posted late last night. Unless you get up before P from M, you wouldn’t have caught it. It’s called “Flash Waltz” and it is what AWK and David O were referring to above … the last post on last week’s thread.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzwWskM4hN8 Some young classical musicians, under the guidance of a maestro, stroll into a hospital lobby in Tel Aviv and set up chairs informally — three of them go up to the balcony and, at a sign from the conductor, start playing. (Excellent, musicians, btw.) The camera takes in the reactions of people who suddenly encountere a full symphony orchestra in the hospital lobby. The musicians, needless to say, are flawless. Then a ballet dancer runs out.

    I guarantee, it will warm the cockles of your heart.

  3. The time and date in the lower right hand corner of my screen have disappeared. Does anyone know how I can get them back? Thanks.

  4. Three men arrested on suspicion of sex assault and false imprisonment of teenagers in grounds of Islamic girls’ school

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291508/Three-men-arrested-suspicion-sex-assault-false-imprisonment-teenage-girls-grounds-Islamic-girls-school.html#ixzz2NExbblPT
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
    =================================
    No details, yet, on who or what the men are…………………..

  5. AWK, above, notes, “No details, yet, on who or what the men are…………………..”.

    Gosh! That’s a brain cracker! If I have any thoughts on possible suspects, I’ll send them in.

    BTW, where the bloody hell are the women who are attached to these men? Where are there mothers and sisters and multiples wives? We need a grand clearance. First: Remove the postal vote. Trash it. Bin it. Story, end of. Yes, legitimate Brits who are bed bound will be disenfranchised, but the govenment will still be decided by indigenous Brits, not islamic desert crappers. Bin the postal vote NOW! second, book some cattle boats and herd the islamics with whatever belongings they can physically carry, onto them and take them to Somalia. It doesn’t matter Somalis isn’t their country of origin – they’re fellow islamic crap and the Somalis can either take in their brothers in allah or shoot them. Who gives a crap.

  6. Verity 11th, – 13:31

    Cockles of heart duly warmed.

    (sniffle) ‘scuse me, I think I’ve got something in my eye…..

  7. I said let the islamic effluent take whatever luggage they could carry onto the cattle boat, but the luggage would take up space in the hold that could be used for more islamics. So, no possession allowed as they take up too much space. So, they leave with the clothes on their back. It should a flotilla of boats daily for at least a year to get Britain clear of them. And pulleeeze, no politically correct rubbish about being “judgemental”. I’m judgemental. Muslims, out.

  8. Verity March 11th, 2013 – 14:38

    “It should a flotilla of boats daily for at least a year to get Britain clear of them.”

    They could go at twice the speed if they were to encourage them to disembark when they were only half way there.

  9. David O … Why didn’t I think of that? YOu could announce that all those who wished to be grante free benefits in the arrival country should disembark at one and the number they would be money to was strictly limited. That should clear them out and free up the boat for another trip.

    (Does anyone know how to put the date and time back on the screen. I didn’t do anything, but mine disappeared overnight. Thanks if you can help.)

  10. Sorry about the bad typing above. The sun is glaring (yes, through the curtain fabric) onto the screen and I can’t really see it.

  11. Verity.

    “(Does anyone know how to put the date and time back on the screen. I didn’t do anything, but mine disappeared overnight. Thanks if you can help.)”

    Try going into Accessories, then into System Tools and then into System Restore, try to restore at a time and date where the date and time were working.

  13. David O – Where’s the start button? The bar along the bottom has disappeared. I’ve turn the computer off and restarted it several times.

  15. David O – The whole bottom bar has disappeared. My computer techie should be in half an hour, faster if he sounds the Computer Emergency! siren.

  16. Verity
    March 11th, 2013 – 13:31
    Loved the musicians in the hospital link. As DO said, must wipe my eye….. Thanks for posting it, such a lovely change from the usual miserable news items.

  18. David Ossitt:BBC reporter is `twittering` from Huhne court ever few minutes.See BBC NEWS PAGE .

  22. Bet Vicky Price (dead ringer of Nigel Slater) has a ‘ breakdown’ and spends her sentence in a nice nursing home. He will probably serve far less than 8 months. Of more interest, what’s happening with that wretched lawyer Constance (UGLY)* Briscoe? She is the ‘ poor, unloved black girl’ who through useful idiot friends, rose to become the most powerful black female judge in the country. As Vicky’s neighbour and very close bosom friend(?) she commited perjury, was arrested, but no further news. Must check out on Google.
    * Title of autobiography.

  23. Constance Briscoe could face charges for role in Huhne speeding ..

    http://www.guardian.co.uk › UK news › Chris Huhne trial
    THIS LINK IS WORTH READING. ESPECIALLY AS THE GUARDIAN WAS ONCE ONE OF THE ‘USEFUL IDIOTS’ WHO HELPED BRISCOE.

  24. I do hope that this is not too rude.

    An Arab family was considering putting their grandfather (Abdullah) in a nursing home.

    All the Arab Facilities were completely full, so they had to put him in an Italian home.

    After a few weeks in the Italian facility, they came to visit Grandpa,
    “How do you like it here?” asked the grandson.

    “It’s wonderful! Everyone here is so courteous and respectful,” said grandpa.

    “We’re so happy for you. We were worried that this was the wrong place for you,

    Since you are a little different from everyone.”

    “Oh, no! Let me tell you about how wonderfully they treat
    The residents,” Abdullah said with a big smile.

    “There’s a musician here – he’s 85 years old. He hasn’t played the violin in 20 years, and everyone still calls him Maestro!

    There is a judge in here – he’s 95 years old. He hasn’t been on the bench in 30 years and everyone still calls him Your Honor!

    There’s a dentist here – 90 years old. He hasn’t fixed a tooth for 25 years, and everyone still calls him Doctor!

    And Me – I haven’t had sex for 35 years, and they still call me The F**king Arab.

  25. Eight bloody months, could be free in four but here I make a prediction both will be out on licence in TWO months, ther is no justice.

  26. David Ossitt 11th, – 19:01

    “out on licence in TWO months, ther is no justice.”

    Depends on what happens to ’em during those two months…they might both start to look on Carina in new ways. 😉

  28. …they might both start to look on Carina in new ways. 😉

    Oh i do hope that you are right.

  30. I wonder if the odious Huhne is looking forward to the opportunity to experience a different form of bisexuality.

    BTW, what a tragedy he failed to beat Clogg to the leadership.

  32. Hexhamgeezer
    March 11th, 2013 – 20:10
    Both he and his ex-wife look like transversites. Excuse mt ignorance (or innocence) but what is ‘Carina’ mean?

  33. David Ossitt March 11th, 2013 – 18:59 ‘I do hope that this is not too rude.”

    Yes, but so what? It wasn’t PC.

  34. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/globalwarming/9919121/Look-at-the-graph-to-see-the-evidence-of-global-warming.html

    The wheels are well and truly coming off the wagon.

    ‘In recent months, even such fanatical proponents of the warmist orthodoxy as Rajendra Pachauri, chairman of the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, James Hansen of Nasa, and the Met Office have all had to concede that since 1997, the warming trend has stalled virtually to a standstill. Of course, there was a modest temperature rise in the 20th century, as a continuation of the warming that began 200 years ago as the world naturally emerged from those centuries of cooling known as the Little Ice Age. But the 0.5C rise between 1976 and 1998 was no greater than the 0.5C rise between 1910 and 1940 (with 35 years of cooling between them, so that the net rise in the past century has been only 0.8C).’

    And perhaps the ability to shout out loud that the Emperor has no clothes is the real reason for the BNP’s vilification.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=msHg_XySu5s

  35. Clear Memories writes: “And perhaps the ability to shout out loud that the Emperor has no clothes is the real reason for the BNP’s vilification.”

    Good point.

    BTW, it having been established that “global warming” was a lie perpetrated by various and sundry members of the establishment, at the behest of Common Purpose, when will they be stopping the subsidies for Samantha Shameron’s father’s hideous, destructive “windmills” on his property?

  37. AWK 1 11th, – 20:40

    “but what is ‘Carina’ mean?”

    Well, in Latin it means “keel”, which seems an odd name to give your daughter, unless her parents were blessed with prescience!

  38. Perhaps they meant Corrina,as in:”Corrina,Corrina/Gal,where you been so long?/……….I got a bird that whistles/I got a bird that sings/……..But I ain a got Corrina/Life doesn’t mean a thing”.[Bob Dylan….see on Google.]

  40. Would it not have been better to give the Hulnes fluorescent red `vests`and set them on cleaning-up the streets of Tottenham[where-ever];instead of giving them bed and board at H.M.expense.And avoiding him coming out of the Scrubs with all the sanctimoniousness of Jonathen Aitken.

  42. According to The Mail (not that I click on it), Saudi Arabia is considering ceasing to behead criminals because of a lack of skilled beheaders. Before Common Purpose simpers and gives them a pat on the back, they are going to institute firing squads, intead. I like it! In Utah, people on death row get a choice of the death penalty. Lethal injection or firing squad.

    I am guessing the more passive types of murderer choose lethal injection, whereas the pushier kind of murderer will go for the high drama of a firing squad.

  44. Verity:After 1945 and to the abolition of hanging there were 4 murders around here;and 3 arrests and 3 hangings.Now this area became known as `murder mile`with 13 killings in a 3 yr. period(all from yardy gangs :unfortunatly not all their own members). One a 14 yr old girl left to die because the police and ambulance have a policy of not coming in unless their health and safety is secure [and the armed `carabaniery`is stationed 7 miles away];another, 16 yr old Brenden LAWRENCE; whose English mother did not get the same support as`Seven’s`did.[Which reminds me there was an anti-police poster up at the end of my street with-in days of Steve’s killing–and it’s 123 miles from his killing;which sees strange.]Any-way I live in the geographical middle of murder mile;although it’s calmed down now……Unfortunatly the authorities can’t be trusted to bring back hanging.If they had any number of innocent mothers might have been hanged on the fantasies Prof. Sir Roy Meadows told the Courts about cot deaths…..All very unsatisfactory.

  45. Malfleur at 02-09:It will take me some time to read over this[probably tomorrow]but Chatam House’s view is generally that of the Establishment,and especially of the Foreign Office.

  46. Verity:Bob Dylan’s still a nice Jewish boy;and I’d say has always been his own man:some-thing of an anarchic libertarian [irrespective of those who latched on to him].

  47. Malfleur (12 March 04:12) –

    Thanks for the link.

    I’ve read the Chatham House material and it certainly does – (as Radford NG – 12 March – 02:50 – says) – reflect the Establishment’s thinking. And I would add – it also clearly reflects it’s agitation.

    The headline to the Chatham house material speaks of “The roots of extremism” but it soon becomes quite clear that what so worries the compiler of the material is not Muslim extremism but the formation of western opposition to it.

    The Chatham House report is symptomatic of anguished hand-wringing among the Labour/Liberal/Fake Conservative Establishment. They persist in believing, despite all evidence to the contrary, that the Islamic ideology and its ambitions for conquest are benign and harmless. They are anguished and alarmed because they fear that people are waking up to the existential menace of Islam.

  48. Radford Ng 2:56 – Thanks for an interesting post.

    Personally, the only way I would sign a petition to bring back hanging would be if they promised to do the hangings in public. This would serve to concentrate the minds of bullies, hoodlums, islamics and others of vicious character. I might even make the killer wear a frock to his public execution, to add to the gaiety of the proceedings. It would certainly concentrate the minds of others of malicious character.

  49. Herbert Thornton, just above, An excellent, well-observed post.

    Does Chatham House have any connection with Common Purpose?

  50. Chatham House is most certainly a repositary of your archetypal dhimmi thinking. I don’t think though that they actually believe that the Right is the problem rather than I$lam rather than they are comfortable with dealing with an easier threat. They have the Left’s typical dissonant thinking. At the back of their mind I’m sure they recognise that !$lam is the major threat , they just want it kicked into the long grass until the problem goes away or sorts itself out somehow and meanwhile pick up brownie points attacking ‘the extremists’.

  51. Verity 12th, – 01:18

    “Before Common Purpose simpers and gives them a pat on the back, they are going to institute firing squads, instead. I like it!”

    Nawh!!! Far too many of those being executed in Saudi are Filipiña indentured employees who believed they were going to work as maids, only to find that, on arrival in “the Kingdom”, their passports are confiscated, they are treated as house slaves and only kill their employers after they have been repeatedly raped by them.
    Not a ‘justice’ system I would willingly go anywhere near!

  52. Verity.

    “Does Chatham House have any connection with Common Purpose?”

    Not too sure, however if you go to their web site you can go to a link that shows who are all members of the committee, research into these might well provide you with an answer.

    One odd thing; her Majesty the Queen is patron.

  53. Re Chatham House, Hexham Geezer writes, in response to my question as to whether they are connected to Common Purpose: “I don’t think though that they actually believe that the Right is the problem rather than I$lam.”

    You left out the word “profess”. This is what they profess to believe. It’s unalloyed Common Purpose.

    Ostrich (occasionally) You are correct. There was a family of Saudis in Singapore, which is awash with Filippina maids who are, by and large, well-treated, have their own bedrooms and closets, and have Sundays off every week. I recall one instance … I believe it was the Saudi ambassdor and his family, who were found to be keeping a maid who slept under the kitchen table, like a dog, had no days off! and was fed table scraps. She never had a day off and was never let out.

    I think the maid’s friends were worried about her because she never met them for church on Sunday, and that is the big social event of the week, then they all go shopping. Anyway, they were confident enough to go to the police and ask them for help. The police went to the Saudi ambassador’s luxury apartment and found this poor little maid. They took her away immediately. I wish I could tell you the end to the story, but, although it was the biggest event of the day in Singapore, I can’t remember the conclusion. Certainly, the Sinigapore authorities would not have hesitated to pay a visit to the ambassador and take away the maid, but I can’t remember, after the years, what happened to the Saudi. I think the maid got alternate empoyment with British/American/Canadian/Aussie/New Zealander expats. Anyway, she was rescued by the Singapore authorities.

  54. Herbert Thornton … To these people, islam is a tool to beat the British with. They hate their own people and their own country.

    Why they have been awarded such power is utterly baffling.

  56. The Mail on Line has apparently decided that American spelling is somehow chic. Gaol is now spelled as jail, and people no longer eat biscuits. They eat cookies. I’ wonder what is the point, given that they probably have a grand total or two or three Americans eager to read British domestic news. And do they think Americans reading the Mail are too stupid to be familiar with British usage? I wonder what is behind this bizarre tendency. I thought the era of believing anything American wa somehow trendy was long over. Is it coming back?

  57. Southeast News:

    A 35 year old Indian man from Slough has been arrested for punching his wife in the face.
    Chindah Gudunpropa denies the charge.

  58. Verity@March 12th, 2013 – 14:47
    The one I hate is Ass for bottom. We have a perfectly good british word – Arse.
    An ass is a donkey.

  60. Verity
    March 12th, 2013 – 14:47
    It is said to be a fact that the Daily Mail website is the most visited IN THE WORLD, if you please! That must be the point of all those thumbnails on the right-hand side featuring people that I’ve never heard of?

    (PfM: I had to reset my browser yesterday due to arcane aggro that I was experiencing, so I have difficulty posting. Macs are notoriously sniffy on occasion. I only mention this in case this shows up twice.)

  61. frank p
    March 12th, 2013 – 15:59
    So he must have “chinned her”!
    I know. Sorry!

  63. Verity & Alexsandr –

    Years ago, in Ontario, I went into a Chemist’s shop/Pharmacy/Drug store (whichever it was) and asked for some cotton wool.

    Cotton wool? What was that? They’d never heard of it.

    After a few minutes of my trying to describe what it was, they asked did I mean cotton batting? I’d never heard of it so they produced a box containing a miniature, compressed bale of the stuff. It was far bigger than I wanted so I asked didn’t it come in a smaller package? “Oh – do you mean cotton balls?” This time the box contained little balls of cotton wool.

    But in British Columbia, when I first asked for cotton balls they seemed quite offended by my vulgar language. Here, they sell cotton wool.

  65. Verity 12th, – 14:47

    “I thought the era of believing anything American was somehow trendy was long over. Is it coming back?”

    According to my son (age 32) it never left. I can’t tell you how many times I had to bring him back basketball related gear from Houston. And Levi’s ‘Silver Tab’ baggies, which weren’t on sale in the UK…although when I discovered just who it was in the US that actually wore them I dropped them off the shopping list, instantly.

  66. frank p (or is it Frank P?)

    I wonder if anyone in the family had served with Wingate.

  67. NINE WORDS WOMEN USE

    (1) Fine: This is the word women use to end an argument when they are
    right and you need to shut up.

    (2) Five Minutes: If she is getting dressed, this means a half an
    hour. Five minutes is only five minutes if you have just been given
    five more minutes to watch the game before helping around the house.

    (3) Nothing: This is the calm before the storm. This means something,
    and you should be on your toes. Arguments that begin with nothing
    usually end in fine..

    (4) Go Ahead: This is a dare, not permission. Don’t Do It!

    (5) Loud Sigh: This is actually a word, but is a non-verbal statement
    often misunderstood by men. A loud sigh means she thinks you are an
    idiot and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and
    arguing with you about nothing.. (Refer back to # 3 for the meaning of
    nothing.)

    (6) That’s Okay: This is one of the most dangerous statements a women
    can make to a man. That’s okay means she wants to think long and hard
    before deciding how and when you will pay for your mistake.

    (7) Thanks: A woman is thanking you, do not question, or faint. Just
    say you’re welcome. (I want to add in a clause here – This is true,
    unless she says ‘Thanks a lot’ – that is PURE sarcasm and she is not
    thanking you at all. DO NOT say ‘you’re welcome’ . that will bring on
    a ‘whatever’).

    (8) Whatever: Is a woman’s way of saying F#*K YOU!

    (9) Don’t worry about it, I’ll do it: Another dangerous statement,
    meaning this is something that a woman has told a man to do several
    times, but is now doing herself. This will later result in a man
    asking ‘What’s wrong?’ For the woman’s response refer to # 3.

  72. Clear Memories March 12th, 2013 – 23:50 ‘Killing Jews …’
    To think they worship the same God!!! 🙂

  73. Here are several amusing little stories, from Germany, about Ecologists not liking the Greens!
    One is that the Greens, who like “Green Energy”, want windmill generated electricity to be transported from the north, where it is generated, to the south, where it is consumed, using underground high-voltage cables. The locals think that burying the cables 5 ft below the surface is not enough because of the strong electromagnetic fields still present at the surface, especially when its path veers away from the highway north of the village, cuts through the fields, runs right next to an elementary school and through a drinking water protection area.

    Another is that forests have been cut down to provide clear open spaces for solar farms.
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/german-renewable-energy-policy-takes-toll-on-nature-conservation-a-888094.html

    It is amusing because it is all so predictable, yet without any logic! If engineering projects are driven by the those with little engineering skills, what else would you expect!

    You want to bet that we can go one better?
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2290444/Madness-How-pay-billions-electricity-bills-Britains-biggest-power-station-switch-coal-wood-chips–wont-help-planet-jot.html

    I have been informed that we have plenty of wood chips, but it still leaves us with the problem of who is going to contribute to the £1 billion / year required to finance the Green subsidies that will help this project to be more profitable than remaining with coal and having to pay green taxes.

  74. ‘The Roots of Extremism: The English Defence League and the Counter-Jihad Challenge’

    I am reading, marking, learning , and inwardly digesting this Chatham House study which I linked earlier at http://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/default/files/public/Research/Europe/0313bp_goodwin.pdf

    I hope all Wallsters will spend some quality study time on the policy document, which is as interesting for its unexamined premises as it is for dispelling any remaining belief that the EDL is merely a commercial vehicle for the political opportunism of football hooligans.

    The author, Mr. Mathew Goodwin, seems to have made a career out of “extremism”, and perhaps for that reason he does not seem to feel a need to define it in his paper. Perhaps next week, after people have had an opportunity to ponder his analysis, we can jointly illuminate some of his views and perhaps hazard an idea of what “extremism” mean to him.

    In the meantime, if anyone can translate into English the following introductory sentence of Mr. Goodwin’s to his paragraph headed “Conclusions”, I should be most obliged:

    “While policy communities have converged on a consensus that the evidence base on non-religious-based forms of extremism should be strengthened, the emergence of counter-jihad groups has added an important but neglected dimension to this discussion”.

    I realize that Chatham House has to talk in a measure of code so that hoi polloi should not get wind of what they were up to, but intelligibility should surely remain a priority.

  75. Listening to BBC Radio 4 just now, I hear that Vicy Pryce has a staunch supporter/sympathiser in the form of the horrid Yasmin Ali-Baba. Ali-Baba believes that Pryce received a hard sentence, equal to that of her husband due to sexual discrimination. Even though Vicky Pryce does not wear a burka, she is a victim of man’s control. How unfortunate that Vicy has a pallid, most white complexion. If only she was black, she would have the whole Establishment up in arms defending her.

  76. Malfleur
    March 13th, 2013 – 07:12
    That is definitely a candidate for Pseud’s Corner! Try it for a tenner from Lord Gnome.

  77. What is so funny with this story is not that the new unleaded petrol called E10 could add £80 to a family’s annual driving costs or that it may even cause engine problems in some older cars. It is that the oil companies are responding to EU directives and that the British Government can only urge the oil giants to delay introduction of ‘green’ petrol amid fears 8.6 million cars could be incompatible with the new fuel!

    They are helpless in their own country! The EU dictate, the oil companies respond, and we don’t just have to pay for it, we also have a problem!

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292318/Transport-minister-urges-oil-giants-delay-introduction-green-petrol-amid-fears-8-6million-cars-incompatible-new-fuel.html

  78. “Former Energy Secretary was sentenced to 8 months in jail on Monday
    Huhne has allegedly been ‘targeted’ by other inmates at Wandsworth prison
    The ex-Cabinet Minister asked staff to segregate him for his own safety
    A prison warder woke all inmates on his wing by shouting: ‘Order, order!’

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2292472/Shamed-Chris-Huhne-bullied-inmates-money-just-days-month-prison-sentence.html

    Nah! Just so happens the screw passed his A level English and was calling for early morning slop-out:

    “Ordure, Ordure!”

  80. Malfleur, I took the time to carefully study this briefing document. It was both encouraging and appalling. It was encouraging because it described how so many people in the UK, 49%, believed that Islam was a threat to the West and incompatible with democracy.

    On the other hand it was disturbing to read of a ‘policy community’ which clearly considers itself above the futile prejudices of the people. There was much talk of dealing with the bad opinions of the population rather than the actual issues. So the problem is not immigration but that many people believe immigration is bad.

    There is also the casual manner in which all groups critical of Islam are swept up into a category of extremism. This includes blogs such as our own.

    The briefing document is very informative indeed but probably not as intended.

  82. Noa 12.03.13 19:59

    The response to (7) should surely be, ‘That’s OK but you’re still not having the remote.’

  86. Malfleur – Well written, and chilling. How dare anyone supported by taxpayer money have the contempt (and inexplicable … nay, baffling) self-regard to write such self-regarding doggy-doo? Rot begins at the top and the deeply self-regarding (for some undetectable reason) Cameron has encouraged this contemptuous usage because he thinks the voters are easily gulled. (Well, he has proof. They (sort of) voted for him.)

    Anyway, if you read the blogs on The Telegraph, from the dozens of posts just this week, kindly pointing out Camoron’s ocean of faults, you will know from the dozens, nay hundreds, of comments therein, that patronising “Call-Me-Dave-because-I-realize-you’re-in-awe-of-me” is toast.

    Unless the Tories sack him and put someone with a brain – and less burning greed for a seat at the top table with the fascists in Bruxelle – Dave’s toast. Remember when he wrote a note to Murdoch’s editor, Rebecca someone, and signed it off with LOL under the impression that it meant “Lots of love”? A graphic example of Dave’s disconnection from the voters.

  87. P from M – Many thanks for that. We all knew that the nomenklatura in Britain were out of control, but this is graphic, undeniable evidence.

    The question is, how to rein them back in? Who could do it?

    I would suggest Eric Pickles. I read just last night – can’t remember which publication – that he had ordered a local council to stop translating documents into four or five – more! – different languages. His reason was, having all those translators for at least 20 different languages was hand was a ciriminal waste of the taxpayer pound.

    Pickles is a heavyweight in more senses than the obvious, and he should be the Tory candidate in the next General Election if the Tories want to come in second. If they want to come in after the fringe parties, they should keep the blancmange-faced Shameron.

  88. P from M – Many thanks for that. We all knew that the nomenklatura in Britain were out of control, but this is graphic, undeniable evidence.

    The question is, how to rein them back in? Who could do it?

    I would suggest Eric Pickles. I read just last night – can’t remember which publication – that he had ordered a local council to stop translating documents into four or five – more! – different languages. His reason was, having all those translators for at least 20 different languages was hand was a ciriminal waste of the taxpayer pound.

    Pickles is a heavyweight in more senses than the obvious, and he should be the Tory candidate in the next General Election if the Tories want to come in second. If they want to come in after the fringe parties, they should keep the blancmange-faced Shameron.

    Thanks for the link to Fitna, P from M. I’ll watch it later when my breakfast has gone down. I am a big admirer of Geert Wilders.

  89. I’m sorry for the mistake about Pickles. I didn’t mean to write that picking him would ensure that the Tories came in second. I meant to write “win the election”. Still dozy from not enough tea.

  91. RobertC March 13th, 2013 – 00:58

    “To think they worship the same God!!! ”

    But do they?

    I think not, to my mind they worship their prophet and all his works (not that there are much of these) most religions of the world have teachings that can be admired but I despise only this one.

  92. Will the Judge agree that his fellow barrister put ‘undue pressure’ on Nightingale to plead guilty? Unlikely, I fear. Hope I’m wrong; but let’s hope somebody has a decent job lined up for him, just in case I’m right.

    The inducement of a lower sentence for a plea of guilty was an iniquitous change in the judicial process. It leads to lazy defence counsel and potential injustice. It detracts against the principle that it is incumbent upon the State to prove guilt, rather than the accused to prove innocence. Plea bargaining is at the root of much egregious practice in America.

  93. David Ossitt – D’accuerdo! I, too, admire the major religions, with the exception of the religion of sand fleas. I agree, that the major religions have points of view that are admirable. Buddhism is beautiful, and I also like the Hindu dieties very much. islam alone is nasty, vicious and destructive. I remember they (muzzies) hacked the ears and noses off a collection of sculptured animals in, I think it was, Thailand. Because only their nut job allah can create animals.

    PS … I really think that if Pickles ran for Leader of the Tories, he would win it. It would be fabulous to have him as PM, wouldn’t it?

  95. So Danny Nightingale ‘won’ his appeal on the grounds that the conviction was ‘unsafe’…. but has to face a retrial.

    FFS! Cruel and unusual punishment. How much more taxpayers’ money has to be poured into the pockets of shysters?

  96. Verity – 15:37 ‘Pickles?
    Pickles as Tory leader? An improvement for the Tories.
    Pickles as PM? You mean until the next election? 🙂

  97. Robert C – “Pickles as PM? You mean until the next election?” Well, no, but it would be a step up. But I was thinking of Shamoron being deselected at the next election and Pickles selected as leader. He would also win a lot of Labour votes.
    I think most people, except blanc mange face, would like to see Pickles run for PM.

  98. Climategate 3.0 has arrived!
    http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/13/climategate-3-0-has-occurred-the-password-has-been-released/

    After Climategate 1 and Climategate 2, we had the Climategate 3 encrypted file of emails and data, but without the password!

    This password has now been supplied to a select number of climate skeptic bloggers, including Anthony Watts. They will now be able to release the relevant information, after some sort of review. This is necessary as the contents are expected to have personnel information which should not be relevant to Climategate and the Global Warming scam. It may take a while, but many have been waiting for the password some time.

  99. Verity – 16:32 ‘Pickles as Tory Leader?’
    The Tory party need to do more than get rid of the current leader (and Chancellor). By definition, all the Tory members of the Cabinet have gone along with current government policies and need to ‘loose influence’. I can understand that, after the last election, something had to be done, but after three years, it appears that this something has been anything as long as it is not traditional, nor conservative, and allows costs to increase.

    While there are Tory MP’s who vote with the government under protest, there are many who fully support it! So, with them, not in the frame, that doesn’t leave many left does it?

    And why would Pickles win a lot of Labour votes?

    Our National Debt is still increasing and the nation is ‘suffering’ under these non-existent cuts, so I cannot imagine what home truths that Pickles could say that would attract Labour voters to the Tory party.

    If Labour get in next time, people will have an even better picture of the Labour, Tory-LimpDem, Labour sandwich, with no meat in it. Pickles with no meat! Ha! 🙂

  100. MEPs reject EU spending cuts and demand extra £1.7bn from British taxpayers
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/9927439/MEPs-reject-EU-spending-cuts-and-demand-extra-1.7bn-from-British-taxpayers.html

    “Five weeks ago, at a marathon 32-hour Brussels summit, David Cameron secured a reduction in long-term European spending plans, the first in the EU’s history.
    The Prime Minister hailed the EU cuts as the implementation of long overdue austerity in Brussels at a time when national governments were cutting back on spending.”

    Note, “David Cameron secured a reduction in long-term European spending plans, the first in the EU’s history” If only!!!

    So, we are now able to negotiate away our veto, end up with a bill that would represent a 12 per cent increase in national contributions, or just stand firm and say NO!

    So, is Cameron going to stand firm? So, send your answers on a post card…. no, post them here instead!

  101. Peter from Maidstone (13 March 13:51) –

    I saw what I believe was the original version of Fitna several years ago, so I
    was curious to see what your link would reveal.

    However, I was perturbed to discover that in order to see what your link would
    display, I was required to identify myself.

    That sent a cold shiver down my back, so I looked elsewhere for the material –
    but I was equally perturbed to find that other sites made a similar demand.

    In the course of doing this I stumbled on this site –

    http://www.richardwarman.ca/files/Fitna.pdf

    Bearing in mind that I am in Canada I immediately asked myself whether, if
    anyone in Canada were to post a link to a site carrying any version of
    Fitna, it would lead to a prosecution and imprisonment, or to complaints to the
    notorious Canadian Thought Police Enforcement Agencies (officially and
    perversely called “Human Rights Commissions”) who would, with great
    self-righteousness, order the hatemonger concerned to pay compensation of
    several hundred thousands of dollars to the complainants.

    Pat Condell has several pointed comments about this odiously unjust
    sort of censorship. One is called ‘Free Speech in Europe’ and another is called
    ‘The Criminal Truth’.

    But we all live in free countries, don’t we? Or do we? Why did a cold
    shiver run down my back?

  103. Place your bets!
    As Milan were stuffed last night by Barca – the consolation prize will be their boy for Pope!

  108. David Ossitt @ 00:58

    You might enjoy the short article by Rebecca Bynum in the New English Review, The Primacy of the Human Will. In it she writes:

    “…In order to be free to choose the good, we must be free to choose its opposite – evil; we must therefore be free to sin. Without the possibility of evil, there would be no choice and no freedom. So to the unthinking question, why does God allow evil; the answer is, that we may be free and come to him of our own volition. Those who would remove that freedom and make men slaves are in direct rebellion against God’s will and purpose. Muhammad was one such rebel who would enslave men to a ritualistic system, but those who would remove man’s free will choice by convincing him freedom does not exist (just as God does not exist in their thinking) are rebels in the same way. Both destroy human dignity by destroying human freedom. Both offer nothing but bondage to meaningless forms and the return to animal levels of existence. In the one, man is a helpless pawn of an evil deity, in the other, man is the helpless pawn of soulless matter and consequently any degree of human enslavement is justified on the basis of seeking material well-being for the greatest number of people…”.

    http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/134805/sec_id/134805

  110. Frankly speaking, “Thanks, Frank Sutton. Thanks, Frank P!”

    Frank P – your post below the post above, ha ha ha ha ha!

  111. Only watch this if you are able and have a strong stomach, it shows a Christian having his head cut off by someone wielding a small knife whilst a fellow Muslim chants one of their evil prayers.

    All of those in the west who call this monstrous religion peaceful should be forced to watch it.

    It is high time something was done but I know not what.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Tqp_s_pbM&bpctr=1362790242&bpctr=1363204680&bpctr=1363204691&bpctr=1363204702&bpctr=1363204719

  112. Meanwhile, our political class debates matters of the most pressing concern to the nation:

    “What happens if we have a lesbian queen in a same-sex marriage who conceives using an egg implanted with donor sperm? The law should be clear, but this is a question that has not been thought through in the Bill.” Lord True (DT)

  113. I note that Cameron has over-ruled the apparent interest of Theresa May in restricting unlimited Brazilian immigration, and he is still concerned to make it as easy as possible for Chinese to come to this country, not to mention the open door policy for Indians. I say apparent interest, since I am not convinced of the truth of any statement of any politician on any subject and it would be entirely possible for May to have raised this issue only to allow Cameron to slap her down.

  117. Thanks for the hat tip on Sultan Knish, Frank P. He’s in top form. And he is right. As we have been saying here since the inception of this very fine blog.

  118. Verity

    “As we have been saying here since the inception of this very fine blog”

    … and elsewhere long before it.

    Greenfield has captioned the piece “The World of Refugees”; he could just as easily have dubbed it, “The Destruction of National Identity in The West”: an obituary for Western Culture.

    Perceptive, damning and utterly demoralising!

    Perhaps someone who is not persona non grata should link it on Trolltopia and invite Frasier to re-consider his Neathergate obduracy.

  119. The BBC reports that Al Queada are recruiting ‘sympathisers’ in the UK to fight in Mali.
    Nothing much new there, disgusting though it is that the country can be used as a recruiting source for militant islam.

    I was struck by this classic piece of constabulary stable door-ism hough:

    “…The Metropolitan Police said it would seek to prosecute anyone who travels overseas to support terrorist activity…”

    One wonders how they will achieve this? One has visions of squads of plods in high viz jackets wandering through the Sahara, looking for bemused bearded men with Brummie accents.
    “You’re nicked, lad. now put down the AK47 and come along quietly…”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21754405

  120. Douglas Murray writes very well on the UK’s ‘troubled future’. Somewhat of an understatement in my humble view.

    http://standpointmag.co.uk/node/4868

    He touches on the recent Question Night debate which included Will Self, who made the usual self hating comments in support of enriching mass immigration. Whilst Murray’s points are good one wishes he had made them during the discussion, rather than afterwards.
    Not enough skilled rootin’ tootin’ debaters like Melanie Phillips to go round, unfortunately.

    Frank P, You wicked man, how could you possibly associate the singularly skilled Russian lady with my innocent remarks on the qualities of femal discernment? :-}

  121. Re Frank Sutton
    March 13th, 2013 – 18:43

    The latest on Emma West (let’s not forget her) here.

    Frank-or anyone.

    Does anybody know how to do that highlighted link thingy?

  122. Noa @ 00:30

    Yes, I am thinking that we need to find a way to graft Douglas Murray on to Tommy Robinson – so to speak.

  123. Noa, you just highight the link, and go to the top and click on “copy”. Then you position your pointer where you want it and click on “paste”.

  124. Chris Hune and Vicky Price got off criminally lightly, and so a criminal offence is trivialised. Perveting the course of justice is a very serious offence.

  126. Verity
    Yes you describe the way we normally cut and paste a link. But how did Frank enable the link so that, by clicking on ‘here’, we are able to go to the relevant article?

    So much easier for the writer and the reader to follow…

  129. That link thing (seems to have become a talking point!). A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, but I’ve never let that stop me. A little bit of html is all you need:
    Type this some word which will come out highlighted {don’t include the asterisk – I left that in otherwise this wouldn’t show up. You must include quote marks round the web address.
    Here’s one I made earlier.

  130. Oh dear – it’s getting late!
    I’ll try again:
    That link thing: A little bit of html is all you need:
    Type this some word which will come out highlighted {don’t include the asterisk – I put that in otherwise this wouldn’t show up.} You must include quote marks round the web address.

  131. Malfleur (13 March 20:13)

    Your posting about Lord True’s doubts made me look at the Telegraph where I saw that one of the readers’ comments included this –

    “We should also look at a change the law to consider the possibility of a monkey becoming Queen, or a small horse perhaps?”

    I couldn’t resist responding to that but I don’t expect the Telegraph to print it, so I’m posting it here too –

    “That is a more serious question than it appears on the surface – because ridiculous as it may sound there is actually historical precedent for that sort of thing. People should remember for example that the Roman Emperor Caligula appointed his horse to be a Senator – and I assume that it wasn’t a small horse either.

    And to the objection that Caligula was mad – a great many other politicians and dictators have been, and several are now, mad too so what else is new?

    It should make us wonder – is it possible to clearly distinguish between extreme foolishness and madness?

    Certainly, our own sorry bunch of 21st century Prime Ministers and Establishment figures have been, and continue to be, examples of extreme foolishness, to say the least of it.”

  132. Right – one last go!!

    Type this {a href = “paste in the web address”} some word which will come out highlighted {/a}. Where I’ve put Curly brackets: { } substitute pointed ones : .
    You must include quote marks round the web address.

  133. Almost – it wouldn’t let me show the pointed ones So instead of the curly brackets use this one > for ‘ close’ and this < for open.

  135. Noa -Sultan Knish is already on P from M’s blog roll. All you have to do is recommend that readers click on it, as Frank P did.

  137. Herbert Thornton.

    “Roman Emperor Caligula appointed his horse to be a Senator”

    No a Consul.

  138. David Ossitt
    March 14th, 2013 – 09:59
    Hi, David
    The Conservative Party appointed Cameron as its leader!

  139. We’re always being lied to by the liberals and their lackeys in the media. But the information is there and the internet lets it spread. No wonder ‘they’ want it controlled.

    Somebody has done the math so you don’t have to.

    By comparing official statistics from both the 2011 Census and 2011 crime statistics from the Ministry of Justice, it is possible to calculate which races in England and Wales proportionally commit the most crime.

    The data shows that, out of the three races listed in the MoJ data, whites commit proportionally the fewest crimes, Asians commit slightly more, and blacks by far the most.

    Some key stats are listed below, followed by the complete data, including links to the source material.

    Key statistics

    • Proportionally, blacks in England and Wales commit significantly more violent crimes – of all kinds – than whites
    • Blacks are 6.6 times more likely than whites to commit murder
    • Blacks are 7.3 times more likely than whites to commit firearms offences
    • Blacks are 3.7 times more likely than whites to commit rape
    • Blacks commit over a quarter of robberies in England and Wales, despite being only 3.3% of the population.

    They are over 12 times more likely than whites to commit robbery
    • Proportionally, Asians commit marginally more violent crime than whites.

    They are more likely to commit murder, rape and robbery, and less likely to possess firearms, blades, or steal from a person

    The data:

    Population

    Population of England and Wales, source: 2011 ONS Census
    White – 48,209,395 (85.97%)
    [White British – 45,134, 686 – 80.48%]
    Black – 1,864,890 (3.32%)
    Asian – 3,820,390 (6.81%)
    Chinese – 393,141 (0.7%)
    Mixed race – 1,224,400 (2.18%)
    Arab – 230,600 (0.41%)
    Other – 333,096 (0.59%)
    Total – 56,075,912

    Crime

    Offenders found guilty of selected offences by ethnicity in England and Wales, 2011, source: MoJ

    Murder

    White – 223 (65.01%)
    Black – 57 (16.61%)
    Asian – 29 (8.45%)
    Other – 4 (1.16%)
    Not stated – 30 (8.74%)
    Total – 343
    Blacks are 6.6 times more likely than whites to commit murder

    Asians are 1.6 times more likely than whites to commit murder

    Rape/attempted rape

    White – 820 (71.11%)
    Black – 118 (10.23%)
    Asian – 85 (7.37%)
    Other – 34 (2.94%)
    Not stated – 96 (8.32%)
    Total – 1153

    Blacks are 3.7 times more likely than whites to commit rape

    Asians are 1.3 times more likely than whites to commit rape

    Robbery/assault with intent to rob

    White – 5054 (54.54%)
    Black – 2377 (25.65%)
    Asian – 730 (7.87%)
    Other – 279 (3.01%)
    Not stated – 825 (8.90%)
    Total – 9265

    Blacks are 12.2 times more likely than whites to commit robbery

    Asians are 1.8 times more likely than whites to commit robbery

    Stealing from the person of another

    White – 4514 (67.47%)
    Black – 682 (10.19%)
    Asian – 301 (4.49%)
    Other – 226 (3.37%)
    Not stated – 967 (14.45%)
    Total – 6690

    Blacks are 3.9 more likely than whites to steal from the person of another

    Possession of an article with a blade or point in a public place or on school premises

    White – 4518 (72.26%)
    Black – 1034 (16.53%)
    Asian – 224 (3.58%)
    Other – 93 (1.48%)
    Not stated – 383 (6.12%)
    Total – 6252

    Blacks are 5.9 more likely than whites to commit of knife offences

    Possession of firearms, certificate related and miscellaneous firearms offences

    White – 989 (64.05%)
    Black – 281 (18.19%)
    Asian – 72 (4.66%)
    Other – 33 (2.13%)
    Not stated – 169 (10.94%)
    Total – 1544

    Blacks are 7.3 more likely than whites to commit firearms offences

    Notes on the statistics

    While the Census data features a wide range of racial categories, the MoJ data includes just five: white, black, Asian, other, and not stated. And, of course, the MoJ data makes no reference to religion so it impossible to separate the contribution to racial cohesiveness contributed by the religion of piss and makes it impossible to determine the mixed race crime rate. Plus, it is impossible to determine exactly what is meant by ‘Asian’, that wonderful catch-all so beloved of the BBC when discussing the proclivities of the sons of the desert, from the MoJ data.

    The ‘Asian’ population in the above calculations has been arrived at by adding together the Census categories of the following: ‘Asian/Asian British: Indian’, ‘Asian/Asian British: Pakistani’, ‘Asian/Asian British: Bangladeshi’, ‘Asian/Asian British: Asian Other’. It excludes ‘Asian/Asian British: Chinese’ and ‘Arab’.

    Don’t break your balls over the numbers, you’ll never have the opportunity to discuss them with a liberal or leftard as they cannot accept that the dross that flows over the UK borders does anything except enhance society.

    But we know different. Spread this as wide as possible. If we know the truth, and ‘they’ know we know the truth, it’s that much harder for them to continue with their lies.

  140. This just in about our increasingly dotty heir to the throne: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/9929142/Prince-Charles-takes-private-Arabic-lessons.html Not that his personal intervention isn’t welcome occasionally, in the case of Chelsea Barracks, for instance.
    But this unspeakable cockroach is my argument for banning immigration altogether: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9929154/Labour-peer-Lord-Ahmed-suspended-over-claims-he-blamed-imprisonment-on-Jewish-conspiracy.html

  141. AWK 10:05 – Well spotted!! Excellent! It was the first post I read this morning my time, and it set me up for the day!!

    P from M 7:55 – Oh.

    AWK – I guarantee that Caligua’s horse was better looking.

    Clear Memories – Blacks commit by far the largest proportion of crimes in the US, too. (I wonder what the American figures are. The Americans are less controlling and politically correct (although they has a proportion who try to wrest control from the public domain) and they have braver people who demand facts. Also, of course, the Americans don’t have anything like the amorphus, all-powerful, communist BBC to bash thoughts and “truths” into their heads. The US, although it has its malign power seekers, is infinitely freer than the fascist BBC will tolerate for the British.

    I must have posted this at least 20 times … but the BBC is the most dangerous entity in Britain and shut be shut down stat. As the buildiing which bear the ghost of its malign presence will never be free from toxins, it should be blown up in a controlled, but unbelievably thorough, explosion. I don’t want it reduced to rubble. I want it reduced to dust. The harm it has done to Britain is simply incalculable.

    How did the hard Left manage to grab it? Why did normal people cede their authority over an institution that is paid for, by extraction and threats, by everyone with a TV? Why have the British never had a massive non-payment event? Or a “claw back the BBC” event? The British can be very passive.

  142. Sorry about the bad grammar and spelling. Was on my first sip of my first cup of tea when I frenetically batted out the above!

    Archie Ponsonby 13:21 – “Lord” ahmad did prison time, didn’t he? Texting while driving, I believe was the charge. Not just careless of other people’s lives, but stupid. Doh!

  143. Sorry about the little bundle of posts in a row, but I’m just up.

    A leftard woman, hideous both in profile and full-face – named Amy Rutland – although only 23, managed to wriggle herself into a prominent place on Question Time to launch a personal attack Diane James who produced such good results for UKIP in the recent by-election. Inexplicably David Dimbleby let her rant. (There’s a surprise!!)

    She is fat, has a gigantic double chin attached and an ugly self-congratulatory face. She also has dreadful posture and icky taste in clothes. I haven’t listened to her, but I am guessing she has an ugly, glottal voice.

    Why did David Dimbleby accord her so much airtime to attack Diane James? She is a nothing. I wonder what she does for a living. A shilling for a shill, perhaps?

  144. That philpott is a sexy guy. You can understand what a catch he would be for a young woman !

  145. The douche bag, Lord Nazir Ahmed bought his peerage from the Labour Party. Like Pryce, he is a bad driver and a menace on the road.

  146. Verity
    March 14th, 2013 – 13:45

    AWK – I guarantee that Caligua’s horse was better looking.
    Yes, Verity, and would make a better ‘beefburger’ too. Better than a wet, pink, floppy blancmange!

  147. Later the Prince had a private audience with Sheikha Moza bint Nasser, the second wife and official consort of the Emir of Qatar.

    She is the head of the Qatar Foundation, which works to improve education, science and community development in the country, but is best known in Europe as the sponsor of Barcelona FC.

    The Duchess went on to meet a group of Qatari Bedouin women, who work for Vodafone selling mobiles to women within their tribes.

    Because it is forbidden for tribal women to talk to strangers, the women can only sell phones within their tribes.

    Tells you a lot about the area .
    I have spent time there so I am fully aware of it.

  148. Re Mr Ahmad Whotsit … This vicious allah flea should be stripped of its peerage. Life peers was never a good idea, except in extraordinary circumstances, like Lord Tebbit. But dishing them out as political rewards to nobodies has degraded the institution. He is now claiming that he was imprisoned not for texting while driving on the motorway, but it was the Jews wot got ‘im put away.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9929154/Labour-peer-Lord-Ahmed-suspended-over-claims-he-blamed-imprisonment-on-Jewish-conspiracy.html

    Now he’s been suspended from the Lords. This is serious and should mean automatic ejection and surrender of title to pretend lords. What was Ahmad awarded his peerage for, by the way? Anyone know? He certainly hasn’t made any contributions to Britainor democracy. Remember when he threatened to bring 10,000 of “the lads” round to the HoL regarding some dispute?

    Actually – and this should go for everyone, not just made-up Lords – any foreigner who incurs a prison sentence in Britain should be ejected to his country of origin on “release” (“release” meaning when he or she is put on a plane by to allahland.)

  151. “I think, £300 a day expenses.”

    And he will, not bad £1,500 per week free of tax just to turn up and use the restaurants.

  152. Thanks, P from M! I wouldn’t want jail-bird “Lord” Ahmad bringing 500 of “the lads” round to my apartment in Mexico!

    I have never met, or even seen an islamic, in Mexico. They have Hindus (I believe primarily in the computer industry) and two or three Indian restaurants in the state capital, but islamics … no. I met a lovely man, aged 90, at the doctor’s the other day, from Sri Lanka. (I had gone up to him and said, “Excuse me, but are you from India?”, which is how I know.) He was born when Sri Lanka was called Ceylon. Although he had been away for 60 years, he still spoke with that beguiling sub-continental lilt, which is what prompted me to approach him. Needless to say, he thought Sri Lanka had gone to hell in a handcart. He had a very nice Mexican wife.

  153. I note that the Government, in regard to the basic responsibilty of protecting the people, is now in a pickle…

    Up to ten suspects, some at the “highest end of seriousness”, will be completely free to see and do what they wish by early next year after set time limits of restrictive court orders expire.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/9930130/Most-dangerous-terror-suspects-free-to-walk-streets-within-a-year-watchdog-warns.html

  154. Verity, there are apparently 3,700 Muslims in Mexico. And the organisations representing them are very missionary minded. So you may bump into some soon.

    e.g. The Centro Cultural Islámico de México (CCIM), a Sunni organization headed by Omar Weston, a British born Mexican convert to Islam, has been active in several big cities in northern and central Mexico.

  155. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    March 14th, 2013 – 15:14

    “The Question Time stooge: How Labour Party planted a diehard supporter in the BBC audience to attack UKIP panellist on debate show”

    Anne I might well have mentioned this below before but it is entirely true and in my opinion the dreadful Dimbleby is fully aware of what is going on, he had no right to ask the UKIP lady to answer the vile charges of that thoroughly nasty young woman.

    An old colleague of mine tried on three occasions to get tickets to be in the audience for Question Time and three times he was not selected. At the fourth attempt he lied and said that both he and his wife were Labour Party
    Supporters and that he canvassed on behalf of labour at all elections, he not only was given places for him and his wife but front row right facing the panel.

    The audience is becoming a “Socialist Clack” and Dimbleby is an utter disgrace, at that same Question Time as the Labour party stooge Amy Rutland was allowed to spout her filth Dimbleby interrupted Melanie Phillips seven times whilst she attempted to answer the one question.

  156. As we thought. The word is that the Huhne’s will be out within 2 months with a tag. And they may be allowed unsupervised home visits to allow them to prepare for life outside of prison even earlier than that.

    How long was Robinson in prison for all told?

  158. Re P from M – “to prepare for life outside of prison even earlier than that.” To prepare them for a life outside prison? They’ve only been in for a couple of weeks! They are hardly long-term internees who haven’t drawn a breath in freedsom for 20 years, never mind being immersed in prison life!! They are still getting used, I am sure, to being in prison.

    This is yet another punch in the solar plexus of our legal system.

  159. AWK! @1515.

    The stench from QT just gets worse doesn’t it? I didn’t realise piggy Twigg had met that ugly porker before the QT show and for him to refer to her neutrally as ‘the questioner’ demonstrates for the millionth time what a bunch of lying shts Labour, to a man and pig are.

    What next? Dimbleby gave them a lift to the studio?

  160. David Ossitt
    March 14th, 2013 – 16:26
    Disgusted! I am consoled at being over seventy by the fact that I do not have to pay for the BBC (Bolshie, Brainless, Communist ) License Fee. When Dimbleby departs this mortal coil, I bet the Establishment will blab on about “A National Treasure”.

  161. Hexhamgeezer
    March 14th, 2013 – 17:35
    Now I can see why Twigg doesn’t fancy females. Not that the Bolshie Boars are more attractive than the sows. 🙂

  162. A JEWISH DIVORCE

    A Jewish daughter says to her mother, “I’m divorcing Nathan.”
    All he wants is sex, sex and more sex.
    My vagina is now the size of a 50-pence piece
    When it used to be the size of a 5 pence piece.”
    Her mother says,
    “You’re married to a multimillionaire businessman,
    You live in an 8 bedroom mansion
    You drive a £150,000 Ferrari,
    You get £2,000 a week allowance,
    You take 6 vacations a year and You want to throw all that away…

    …Over 45 pence?”

  163. David Ossitt (14 March – 09:59)

    Re Incitatus – thanks for pointing that out. I gather that a Consul had even higher status!

  164. Frank Sutton

    Many thanks for the hyperlink explanation. I will now try and put it into practice…

  165. University College London bans hard-line Islamic group which tried to segregate men and women at a debate held on university premises
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293248/University-College-London-bans-Islamic-group-iERA-segregating-men-women-debate.html

    The women were expected to sit at the back and atheist writer Richard Dawkins called the segregation ‘sexual apartheid’ and called it a ‘disgraceful epsiode’.
    Writing on his blog, he said: ‘University College, London is celebrated as an early haven of enlightened free thinking, the first university college in England to have a secular foundation, and the first to admit men and women on equal terms. Heads should roll.

    Richard ‘heads should roll’ Dawkins ! Atheist, and comedian!

  166. “I am consoled at being over seventy by the fact that I do not have to pay for the BBC (Bolshie, Brainless, Communist ) License Fee.”

    Hello Anne my wife will get her own free licence at her 75th birthday on Bastille Day her birthday next year.

  167. Robert C @18:38

    Anybody who took the trouble to consult the source material (i.e. Richard Dawkins blog) to verify the quote would have discovered that Dawkins went on to say:

    “Isn’t it really about time we decent, nice, liberal people stopped being so pusillanimously terrified of being thought “Islamophobic” and stood up for decent, nice, liberal values?”

    No joke!

  168. David Ossitt
    Hello David,

    Your wife will find pleasure knowing she need not help to support the parasites and pervs at the BBC!

  170. EC – 19:22 ‘So why did you omit it?’
    It wasn’t news, it was on a par with ‘dog bites man’, where as I inferred that RD was taking a colloquialism beyond acceptable levels, perhaps unintentionally.

  174. Noa – you’re welcome, But I’m not sure that thanks are in order since it took me four stabs to get the relevant stuff to appear!

  175. I can’t help wondering why, if Jeffrey Archer, Jonathan Aitken and Huhne/Pryce were all accused of “perverting the course of justice”;

    Archer got 4 years, and served 2 years
    Aitken got 18 months and served 8 months
    Huhne/Pryce got 8 months and will presumably serve a maximum of 4 months.

    Why the differing sentences? Archer must be livid. Can anyone explain?

  176. Lesley C. 14th, – 23:42

    Well, ackshully, wasn’t Archer convicted of perjury? I concede that, in effect, its much the same as perverting the course of justice, but it’s an old crime that has always borne a heavy punishment (relatively).

  177. P.S. shouldn’t anybody who is ever convicted after pleading ‘not guilty’, then be charged with perjury? Especially if he gave evidence that the jury has clearly rejected.

  179. On QT tonight there was an ugly, stupid woman who believed the Pryces had been given a harsh punishment. There were quite a few bleeding hearts moaning that the Pryce children were suffering with both parents in prison. The emails between father and son broke the hearts of some of this tender audience. Well, why not place the adult ‘children’ into care. This is after all a highly disfunctional family. Even discounting the crimes for which mamma and dadda have been sent away, there is a sordid history of serial abortions, bisexual lovers, and spiteful retaliations. Solution: Bring on the Social Workers!

  180. AWK @ 00.00

    Agreed.

    Rotherham social workers should be involved after their popular success in removing children from a couple that were UKIP supporters – backed, don’t forget, by David Cameron, Nick Clegg, and David Milliband – it’ s their system.

    Joyce Thacker that modern day Kommandant, that Aufseherin ‘dos nos jours’ ,should be in the vanguard in removing any children that have any connection with that dystopian family who are leagues worse than that blameless Rotherham couple.

    And isn’t it all too predictable and criminal that swine like her are are being allowed to conduct their business unnapposed and unremarked by the cretinous press and media, after, of course, a suitably long time on paid holiday at our expense.

    Scum like her are understandable. What is criminal is that Cameron.Clegg and Milliband are completely comfortable that scum like her can continue to operate or, like, Sharon Shoesmith, another spiritual Aufseherin, live a life of luxury at our expense.

    Davey boy – you’re either with us or against us – what’s it to be?

  181. The Rt Hon Dave Blanc-Mange-Face is indifferent to your question. The governance of Britain is a vehicle to take him to the top table in Bruxelles and he has no interest in your opinions. By the time the Conservatives collapse, he will have his feet comfortably under the top table and will barely notice the news.

  183. PS – I watched, on Gates of Vienna just now, a superb rant about David Cameron by Melanie Phillips on question time!! Go thither!

  184. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2293473/Pork-DNA-Halal-chicken-sausages-served-primary-school-children.html

    A message to the little sheet heads from a dhimmi. There’s pig in everything. Traces in all meat products. Many vegetables grown using dried pig shit as fertiliser and of course, dried blood used as fertiliser contains pig blood.

    Most Insulin made from pig – it might say its human, but can you be sure?

    And water run-off from pigfarms ends up in rivers, is treated and you drink it and wash in it. Most probably treading pig waste into your favorite mosque!

    Best be safe and f**k off somewhere you can trust the government eh? Whats that, can’t think of anywhere with a trustworthy government? Well, I’d trust Israel if they told me it was Kosher, but never Saudi if they told me it was halal!

  185. Verity

    I tried to open the Melanie Phillips clip from QT on the Gates of Vienna link, but was unsuccessful. If anyone knows how to obtain access to QT on line OUTSIDE the UK, please let me know. That programme and other interesting programmes are denied to me by reason of my not residing in the United Kingdom.

    Verity and others here might be interested by another blog on Gates of Vienna dated March 14th:

    http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/03/the-left-mad-bad-or-criminally-ignorant/

    It gives an update of Paul Weston’s activities. It appears that he has started a new political party and not simply retired from British Freedom and his association with the EDL to write as I had previously thought

    The March 14th link is also interesting because it prints a written exchange between Mr. Weston and the wife of the “anti-fascist” magazine Searchlight’s communist founder and former editor, which we mentioned here a few weeks ago in connection with calumnies against Mr. Tommy Robinson.

    A word of warning – if Peter accepts Verity’s proposal to add Gates of Vienna to the blog roll, it should be remembered that Searchlight is linked to the Prime Minister through the progressive-islamo-leftist ganglion, “Unite Against Fascism”, and Gates of Vienna earned a footnote (#3) as a player on “the counter-Jihad scene” in the Chatham House study of the English Defence League which I referred to earlier this week. With Gates of Vienna on the Coffee House Wall roll, before we know where we are, we shall all be tarred as football hooligans, fascists in blazers, political opportunists, zionists, or possible even arch-Zionists, serial cocaine sniffers and people not fit to be supported as captains of a lawn bowling team …

  186. RobertC, March 14th, 2013 – 20:16

    “It wasn’t news, it was on a par with ‘dog bites man’, …”

    Disagree, it was more a case of ‘man bites dog. It is so very rare for anybody in the public eye to make a public stand against the islamofacists – for fear that they might be cast out of the cosy politico-media-academe bubble – which is why the DM covered the story. Whatever one might think of Dawkins or Krauss beliefs or unbeliefs they surely must deserve some credit for making an all too rare stand. If only more public figures had the guts to say what they thought about Islam, eh?

  189. EC – 07:51
    OK, he does equate ‘liberal’ with his own views, which is against most islamic traditions. However, he has been against religions for as long as he has been in the News.

    I would say that equating his own views with liberalism is the most newsworthy point; I mean the modern liberalism, as in LibDems (that are not liberal and not democratic), rather than the traditional laissez-faire liberalism.

  190. There is a good piece on ConHome, describing how “Cameron’s strong move on Leveson exposes his growing weakness”. The expected consequences, ending up with less freedom of the press, are explained in the sort of detail that I have not expected for some time!

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thetorydiary/2013/03/by-paul-goodmanfollow-paul-on-twitter-david-cameron-could-have-ended-his-talks-with-nick-clegg-and-ed-miliband-and-refus.html

    And the comments are always worth reading on ConHome, they are so traditional!

  191. My own view on Leveson is that what will take place has already been agreed. This posturing is only for the benefit of the sheep. It plays to the tribalism which really has no value. Look at what is actually done all the time, not what is said, and assume always that things do not happen by accident in politics.

  194. Radford NG

    I’m glad to see that the video will be posted later. The voting suggests that Mr. Farage with Mr. Delingpole and some other chap in support, wiped the floor with the author of the turgid EU “constitution”.

  196. Forgive my vulgarity, but Cameron brings out the worst in me. With reference to DC’s latest U-Turn on alcohol, it seems that DC does so many U-Turns that his head is stuck up his arse!

  198. Malfeur, I tested the link just now by clicking on it, and it went instantaneously to Gates of Vienna and the post I referred to!

    Maybe you should google Gates of Vienna and get to it that way … I don’t know ….

  200. Or perhaps googleQuestion Time – Melanie Phillips and look under the most recent dates. It is well worth searching for. Whoa! She was on a roll and the lefty scum in the audience began to shout at her in a fury, but she didn’t even hesitate … she ploughed right on with what she wanted to say. Perhaps the dirt bags in the audience had never heard an intelligent person with something urgent to convey before. They were absolutely furious. It was a pleasure to behold.

  201. Frank Sutton – “Lord” Ahmad”, texter-while-driving-extraordinaire, and goal-bird, is a vicious, ignorant little sand flea. I have no idea who elevated him, or why, except it was obviously Labour and they were obviously trying to curry favour with the pakis. Too obvious for words. His title, which is hardly hereditary and therefore not part of his name on his birth certificate (if he has one), should have been removed and his belongings at the HoL packed in a plastic bag and left with a policeman at the gate for him to collect.

    How dare Labour degrade the House of Lords with rubbish like Ahmad?

  203. Sorry to be so amorphus, but here is a blog I have followed for yonks. I don’t know why I didn’t think of posting it sooner …

    http://biasedbbc.org/

    They. do. not. like. the. bbc. You’ll love it!

  204. freedom Party Re Paul Weston and liberty.

    It is of interest to look at the historical chronology of Mr Weston and his association with British politics.
    The previous British Freedom party appears to be intertwined with the EDL.

    One possibility is that the new party is an attempt to distance himself from the EDL and it’s now discredited leader, a possibility both Frank P and I mooted recently.

    We shall see…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Freedom_Party

  208. Not surprisingly, the Guardian does not allow comments:
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2013/mar/15/coronavirus-victim-widow-scientists-treatment

    The article focuses on the family’s dreadful ordeal, but there are several fragments of information that should be held up for questioning:

    1) What were the defensive measures taken by the authorities to defend our country from people returning from the Middle East, where it was known that the coronavirus existed? Have these measures changed in the light of new information?

    2) “It [the coronavirus] has infected at least 15 people since it emerged in the Middle East last year – more than half of whom have died of pneumonia and multiple organ failure, symptoms that were common in Sars patients.
    The precautionary search for treatments marks a clear decision within Europe to “prepare for the worst” and have drugs ready for GPs and hospital workers in case the infection spreads around the world”
    There is no discussion of how we could slow the spread of the disease across the world. Warning people not to visit the ME unless absolutely necessary would be a good first step!

    3) “Prof Ali Mohamed Zaki [in Saudi Arabia] isolated the virus from a patient who died in hospital last June. He angered the Saudi health ministry when he sent the virus out of the country for identification and alerted international researchers to the threat. “They sent a team to the hospital to investigate me, to blame me and threaten me. They forced the hospital to terminate my contract,” Zaki said. “I was obliged to leave my work because of this, but it was my duty. This is a serious virus.””
    Not unlike the NHS, but still wrong! Ali Mohamed Zaki, in his professional world, is a true martyr.

  209. EC (15 March 17:55) –

    I thoroughly enjoyed your drawing attention to Pat Condell’s “Pigs will fly”. I only hope that he’s right – but it reminded me of my posting (13 March 17:45). In Canada our supposed “Freedom of Speech” has just been severely restricted by the Supreme Court of Canada. If you want to read the entire, convoluted – and frightening – judgment it’s here –

    http://scc.lexum.org/decisia-scc-csc/scc-csc/scc-csc/en/12876/1/document.do

    The judgment has resulted in widespread criticism in the newspapers –

    http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/03/01/andrew-coyne-tom-flanagan-supreme-court-both-got-free-speech-wrong-but-in-different-ways/

    http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Supreme%20Court%20Canada%20ruling%20blow%20free%20speech/8054026/story.html

    It’s enough to make me speculate – in the matter of pigs flying – what, after this judgment, will the perverted Canadian Human Rights Industry do next? Will they decide that transportation of pigs by air is offensive to Muslims who happen to live below the flight path? That may sound daft, but the Human Rights Tribunals have repeatedly proven that they are so drunk with power that they are quite capable of at least seriously considering this as licence for them to order the farmers, butchers and airlines concerned to pay large amounts of money to any complainants. Maybe they’ll begin by ordering shops to pay compensation to Musim customers who claim to be offended by the open sale of bacon.

    But laying aside hyperbole and coming back to the SCC judgment, its chilling character can be summed up in one sentence. The SCC decided that in matters of alleged “hate speech” the truth of what is spoken or written is not necessarily a defence.

    Here are a three extracts from their judgement that (to me) so fundamentally undermine Canadians’ purported “right” to freedom of speech that they amount to directing us to go way beyond the strictures like those imposed on themselves by the three monkeys who are portrayed as saying – “Hear Not, See not, Speak Not Evil” – to the point where instead, it has been made very hazardous indeed for us to Hear, See and especially Speak, Truth –

    “To the extent that truthful statements are used in a manner or context that exposes a vulnerable group to hatred, their use risks the same potential harmful effects on the vulnerable groups that false statements can provoke. The vulnerable group is no less worthy of protection
    because the publisher has succeeded in turning true statements into a hateful message. In not providing for a defence of truth, the legislature has said that even truthful statements may be expressed in language or context that exposes a vulnerable group to hatred.”

    Also –

    “Allowing the dissemination of hate speech to be excused by a sincerely held belief would, in effect, provide an absolute defence and would gut the prohibition of effectiveness.”

    And –

    “………I do not think it is inconsistent with these views to find that not all truthful statements must be free from restriction. Truthful statements can be interlaced with harmful ones or otherwise presented in a manner that would meet the definition of hate speech.”

  210. Herbert Thornton — Chilling. But not surprising. Look at what Canada did to Mark Steyn, who committed no legitimate offence, and Lord Black. I think of all the Anglophone countries, Canada’s the worst for using political correctness as a cover to dominate others. Britain is second.

  211. Herbert T @ 21.23

    The k0r@n must be 1st on the list for the banning of hate speech.

  212. Verity @13:59

    I have no trouble getting to Gates of Vienna via your link. The problem was that, when I arrive, the Melanie Phillips audio/video clip does not open.

  213. Noa @ 17:47

    I think the leadership of the English Defence League has been discredited only in certain circles which, mostly, were intent on discrediting it come what might. Of course Sir Francis Drake was discredited even in the highest circles when he singed the King of Spain’s beard. What can you do!

    Thus in the case of Paul Weston, Peter from Maidstone’s post at 12:16 to “British Resistance” shows that no time has been lost by the scurrilous classes in throwing dirt on Mr. Weston’s new party, British Liberty, and in particular from an anti-semitic direction. It is worth noting that it is British Resistance that has described Mr. Kevin Carroll of the EDL as an “arch-Zionist”. Whenever I read of some person or organisation being abused as Zionist, I warm to them. The flak is usually coming from the left-jihad alliance or from the Prime Minister, should he deign to speak on such an issue, and his pals in “Unite Against Fascism”.

  217. Yes, Malfleur, I saw his new post a couple of days, or a day, after I had posted the comment, and I agree that it is nowhere near his normal bracing arguments. In fact, it was flat and undistinguished. You may be right. Perhaps he has been ill.

  218. Hexhamgeezer (15 March – 22:07) –

    I notice that you use the spelling “k0r@n”.

    So, do you too sense the cold draught of some politically correct Internet search engine recording the identity and location of every person who uses the word so that they can be checked as to whether their opinions are permissible?

  219. Verity @ 23:18

    Mind you, can’t fault his logic and his riff on pigs at the end was good.

  220. Frank P

    I would appreciate your comments as a professional on questions raised about the authorities’ handling of the Sandy Hook massacre in Connecticut last December. The clip was recently included in email sent me unbidden on a regular basis by YouTube recommending items which I might be interested in based on what I had been looking at – usually Vivaldi, Nigel Farage, and How to Draw a Cartoon Duck.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8GxrKJDSL8&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

  221. Herbert T @23.25

    If only! I think that stable door may as well stay open as far as my postings are concerned.

    I don’t like writing the word (having gone through the book), and for the same reason I usually write something like !$l@m (and always use the’$’ – and I’m sure Obamai$ta$ would approve)

  222. Verity @ 15th 14.18.

    One is spoilt for choice with reasons to despise ‘Lord’ or ‘Baron’ Ahmad. A proven mulitiple liar and anti-democrat he defended the Taleban last year in the wake of their attempted murder of the schoolgirl Malala Yousafzai. The Taleban admitted the action but ‘Lord’ suggested it could have been the Pakistan Government (splitting hairs though that might be).

    ‘Baron’ is up to his neck in his hometown Rotherham and Sheffield politics. Rotherham is that fine fiefdom whose ‘progressive’ political and bureaucratic system ignored and protected grooming gangs of muslims.

    One of the things about his ilk is that he (and many of the groomers) are not just Pakistani but Mirpuri, and not just Mirpuri but often people displaced by by a dam project in ‘Azad’ Kashmir. Many thousands were allowed into the UK (another of the Big Lies when we are told immigrants came here for our own good rather than theirs).

    Mirpuris are generally poor, even by Pakistan standards, and are still very close knit. ‘Lord’ claims to speak on their behalf, especially when talking about !$lamic/Dhimmi interfaith dialogue. The question is; Is it at all feasible that he or his Labour cohorts knew nothing about what was going on there? Kommandant Joyce Thacker and the dhimmi constabulary did so, why not him? They all form the warp and weft of Rotherham’s governing ideology – is it conceivable the repulsive lying rabble rousing ‘10000 muslim’ man knew nothing?

  223. Hexam Geezeer –” (another of the Big Lies when we are told immigrants came here for our own good rather than theirs).”

    There, I disagree. I don’t believe the leftards who let them wriggle in were considering the welfare of the pakis. They were considering the votes. Packing the ballot boxes with pakis.

    Cameron should (oh! give me a minute to get up off the floor from laughing) put an end to all postal voting except with a doctor’s certificate.

    I lived in the US, on a Green Card, for 12 years, and was always employed and always paid my taxes and social security. But I was never accorded the vote. The precious vote is reserved for citizens only, who have a presumed stake in the country and its future.

    Why the British government accorded the primitive incomers (or any foreigner, actually) as worthy of being handed such a precious possession as the vote is … well, I was going to say “a mystery”. But it isn’t, of course. The sordid socialists knew there weren’t enough British voters whose votes they could win, so they packed the ballot boxes with incomer lowlife.

    The first thing a Tory, or Tory-and-UKIP alliance must do is bring back according the postal vote ony to citizens. The vile socialists are succouring the occupying army. That is called treason.

    If UKIP promised to remove the postal viote from all those gruesome burqaed wives and repulsive men, they would get in by a landslide and the Tory party would, deservedly, be third.

  224. We have just had an early lunch at small village pub in the heart of the Dales and whilst driving home we listened to a repeat of yesterday’s ‘Any Questions’ and the ‘Any Answers’ that followed it.

    I tend to listen on my own in my study and am increasingly perturbed that when Jonathon Dimbleby asks the audience to raise their arms in a straw-pole over some issue or other they almost always vote the opposite to how I would have done.

    They did so again today twice, once was on the question are wind-farms a good thing the other point I can’t remember but when I pointed out to my wife that their vote was directly opposite to what mine would have been, she chided me for being to naïve, she said that being in public and on show they were voting the way they thought that they ought to, it was her opinion that on a secret ballet there would probably be a much different result.

    One thing that did cheer up my spirits James Forsyth is Political Editor of the Spectator who was on the panel made it absolutely clear that the Spectator will never sign up to any code of conduct or organisation that is foisted onto journalists, his point (one that I wholeheartedly agree with) is that we have laws to protect members of the public from ‘rogue press’ and criminal laws sufficient to charge any journalist who breaks the law.

    He also claimed that the police and the press should be able to speak to each other without fear of being prosecuted.

  225. Kashmir is actually the northernmost state of India. It’s not Pakistan, although you wouldn’t know it from the quality of the people. I was once in India on business and, with the weekend coming up, asked Indian friends what might be an interesting place to go. They suggested Leh, a town just over the border from Tibet (and back then, Tibet was a sensitive subject and the Chinese weren’t letting foreigners in). Leh is Tibet in all but name – the temples, the monks, and it is under Indian governance.

    Anyway, we got off the bus for a rest stop a Cargill … a most unlikely name for a town in Kashmir, but there you are … fort a rest stop, or overnight … can’t remember. I and one hippie couple were the only Westerners on the bus, and as we got off, we were swamped in a major way by young men selling carpets. As I walked to the hotel, there were or three of them following me, shouting, “I not muslim, madam! I am good Hindu boy.” Uh-huh. Pull the other one, Mo’. But anyway, the point is, they knew even back then that muslims weren’t trusted.

  226. Verity,

    On the western side of the ‘Line of Control’ in Kashmir they call it Pakistan controlled Kashmir. India probably has the best claim on the area known as Kashmir but unfortunately the whole region of old Jammu/Kashmir is majority !$lamic. I believe the Chinese even have a little bit of the old ‘Princely State of Jammu & Kashmir.

  227. Hexhamgeezer, I’m sure you’re right as of now. But then, Kashmir was (is?) still part of India and it bordered the Chinese-controlled Tibet. But the area that had Leh in it was controlled by India, which granted free access. Being in Leh was just like being in Tibet. Robed monks, long large trumpets from the monastery courtyard, etc. I have a photo of myself in Leh, standing on a temple roof and posing with a Tibetan lama.

    Yes, Kashmir is majority islamic, no question! But when I was there, Kashmir was still controlled by India.

  229. Hexhamgeezer 16 March 12:48 –

    I ‘ve begun to wonder if the stable here has any door at all. Especially because yesterday, for several hours something prevented my computer from accessing the CoffeeHouseWall. It made me suspect that the phenomenon had something to do with my earlier post that mentioned R!ch@rd W@rm@n.

  231. I think Ann Barhardt’s views are defective in a few important respects. Let’s wait and see. One of the most important things, and not at all liberal, that the Pope could do is to roll back on the papal claims which are the greatest obstacle to unity with the Orthodox world. Patriarch John X of Antioch has just spoken in his first encyclical of wanting to see unity between all Orthodox. If Pope Francis wanted to really see unity in truth and love with Orthodox then this would be significant.

    There is also a great difference between not supporting the Latin Tridentine rite and not supporting Tradition. Let’s wait and see.

  232. Frank P (16 March 16:56) -

    Ann Barnhardt certainly pulls no punches, and I was very much in agreement with her until I arrived at the sentence that begins – “No one has the slightest comprehension of the notion of taking on the burden of guilt……” and read her description of it as being “LITERALLY the ENTIRE POINT of the Incarnation.”

    The more I think about that, the more it seems (to me) to be based on a fundamental (though unstated) belief that it was God who created evil, and that God deeply regrets it and longs for sympathy with his own feelings of guilt?

    I am not a theologian, but how else can it be explained? Is it really rational?

  233. My posting (16 March 17:00) mentioned that yesterday my computer couldn’t access the Wall. I omitted to say what it did display. viz. –

    “Service Temporarily Unavailable
    The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
    Apache/2 Server at http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk Port 80″

    Did anybody else experience that yesterday?

  234. Herbert Thornton 17.48:
    I had a similar message yesterday for a while, about midday I think.

  235. The Lib Dumps are quick off the mark here. They’ve just sent out letters reminding folk how easy it is to get a postal vote for the EU elections and helpfully enclosing an application form.

    I will not need it but I will suggest to the Mrs that she might like to apply and vote under my supervision as per the exciting new cultural practices advocated by the LDs, and Labour.

  236. Herbert T @1700,

    One would hope that RW’s abilities, or his chums’, were limited to being Stalinist loudmouths.

  239. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2294388/ATMs-emptied-Cyprus-savers-learn-10billion-euro-bailout-agreement-includes-levy-bank-accounts.html

    Watch the markets collapse this week. Prepare for a run on every bank in the EU, even those that are not in the Euro. This is theft, plain and simple, by an unelected, political elite. If this doesn’t kick off serious civil unrest right across the Europe, nothing will. If the populations under the heel of the elite don’t start kicking back now then they deserve everything they get and will only have themselves to blame when they are left with nothing.

    Just moved all my private pension money out, thank f**k I now have no assets to be stolen.

  241. Clear Memories (17 March 00:47)

    Don’t get over confident. Unscrupulous governments are entirely capable of confiscating all private property, not matter what form it’s in – including land and gold coins. And to rub it there is nothing to stop them at the same time making it a crime to use gold in any form to buy anything, even food.

    I remember talking, in 1953, with a man who’d been in Germany during the Weimar inflation. He stuck a hand in a pocket and pulled out a silver threepenny bit. “A tiny silver coin like this” he said “would buy me more food than an entire barrowload of paper money”.

  242. Herbert Thornton @ 03:23

    You say true; but further – see Matthew Engel on page 19 of the Life & Arts section of the current Weekend FT on a hidden gift from the scumbags who comprised the last Labour government.

    Mr Engel writes “…under a little-known 2006 amendment to an earlier Immigration Act, even those born in Britain can now be deprived of citizenship if that is deemed “conducive to the public good…”.

    It is not clear from Mr. Engel’s article who may do the deeming, but since the law is on the books, and we no doubt have people who devote their lives to upholding the Law however stupid or offensive, could someone among their ranks make a useful start with this provision by so deeming its application to the Government and Opposition Front Benches?

  244. Herbert Thornton
    March 17th, 2013 – 03:23

    Correct Sir.

    But the EU is not a government. It is not elected, it operates solely through the inactivity of sovereign parliaments and the tacit inertia of their populations.

    Across the EU, in nation after nation, we are seeing rising opposition to this unelected elite. Some of it is democratic, as with UKIP. Some of it isn’t, as with Golden Dawn. It matters little where the opposition rises – the fact that it is rising is the most important thing. Stories such as this can only hasten the day the Brussels edifice burns to the ground (whether that is a figurative statement or whether real flames are involved).

  245. Where is St Patrick when you need him?

    From the Irish Independent:

    “Mosque for 3,000 gets go-ahead in capital

    The development, to be built in Clongriffin, north Dublin, will become Ireland’s largest Muslim Cultural Centre catering to the 40,000-strong community living in the capital.

    The application to Dublin City Council was submitted by an organisation called the Dublin Welfare Society.

    It was approved by planners and will cost a staggering €40m, which is believed to be coming from a backer in the United Arab Emirates”

  247. The Coffee House Wall -11th/16th March

    Shouldn’t that be 11th/17th March, or are you altering the weekly boundaries?

  248. Enough to make you puke! I’m watching “The Week’s Politics”, and Newham, London, was shown, where CCTV is alive and well. It may be of relevant interest to note that over 32% of the citizens are moslem, and less than 16% are of white ethnicity. To add insukt to injury, the mayor, Wales, is a Scots. This labour lump of shite is mayor of one of the cesspools that make up London. As a matter of interest, how many Englishmen are mayors in Scottish towns?

  249. This seems to be a day of being outraged, as far as I’m concerned. I am not an economist, but it appears to me that the EU is a noose voluntarily placed around the neck of various countries unfortunate enough to have corrupt leaders. That bloated slug Heath sold us down the river, and we are continually reaping the bitter harvest. The latest indignity is what is happening in Cyprus. I happen to know many Cypriots, and have worked and lived amongst them. The Greek Cypriots are mainly fine, upstanding Christian people, with a wonderful work ethic, good family values, and create a decent society where they have settled in Britain. Now the EU wants to remove 10% of their bank savings, to shore up a stinking system. They also want to screw the British service personnel and their families. I couldn’t care less about the Russian money launderers, who no doubt will wriggle out of paying anything.Funny how the EU legislations protect terrorists, making sure they have their human rights and stop them being returned to the primitive countries from where they originate. When it comes to protecting the savings of hard working and honest people, they don’t want to know. Why don’t they confisgate the monies of Pakistanis leeching off the State here? Removing housing benifits from terrorist, moslem criminals and their families would save a fortune, and also deny their interbred idiot, deformed children NHS treatment. No, the EU is too concerned with reducing everybody to serfs under a fascist/communist regime, where Hitler and Stalin failed, they are determined to succeed.

  250. I try to be as accurate as possible.This hardly softens nor excuses this diabolic theft “Under its terms, people in Cyprus with less than 100,000 euros in their accounts would have to pay a one-time tax of 6.75%”.

  251. AWK1 17th, – 11:55

    Amazin’ isn’t it, just how many of those (rightly) famous, high-achieving Scotsmen had to leave Scotland before they could achieve anything at all?

  252. “The Chancellor described the Cypriot bail-out as an “extraordinary” situation, but he pledged that British armed forces personnel and Government staff serving on the island will be protected from the bank levy”

    So, despite distancing ourselves from the machinations of the corrupt eurosh*te, we end up making a de facto contribution to the bailout of Cyprus.

  253. Ostrich (occasionally)
    March 17th, 2013 – 13:37
    Serious question: Do you think the Chancellor is sane?

  254. If there is an EU-wide deposit protection guarantee to protect ordinary savers (and I believe here is ) then this Cyprus theft is surely in direct contravention.
    The EU giveth and the EU taketh away…

  255. AWK1 17th, – 14:27

    I think in 2010 he WAS sane, even if he was also a cocky little nowt, of whom the treasury despaired at first, so tenuous was his grip on the concepts of finance at a national level (Bit like, but not as bad as, Chris Huhne, who had to be given a GCSE physics primer by his staff the moment his arse hit the chair in his office!) but Osborne being pushed and pulled this way and that, plus now staring into the abyss of 2015 must now have him just about on the edge. A boy sent to do a man’s job (forgive the apparent gender stereotyping!)

  256. Ostrich (occasionally)
    March 17th, 2013 – 16:30
    Thanks. Sad really, not only for him, but more tragically for the whole country.

  258. Verity
    This is Great Britain, basically a white society, traditionally headed by husbands and fathers. Long may it remain so,
    Tried to send the above comment to the link you sent. Surprise – it won’t accept it!

  259. AWK – Blacks, American Indians and muzzies didn’t explore the world with maps and charts they’d made, in big, seaworthy ships they’d built, and compasses they’d invented and sale to conquer less developed countries.

    They didn’t invent guns and ammunition and cannons.

    That is why we were able to conquer them … not out of lust for power, but for trade … and they could not have conquered us.

    They should get used to it. And woman police chiefs and showcase baronettes and all the rest of them should pipe the hell down. They were immeasurably enriched by our presence.

  260. AWK1 @12.40

    Re. the Cypriot business this blog;

    http://www.eureferendum.com/Default.aspx

    Has a good article on it. Perhaps the scariest thing about the levy is that banks are preventing the locals from withdrawing all of their own money and retaining the relevant amount in each account. Scary because it gives our Brussels Gauleiters ideas and perhaps sets a precedent our lickspittle politicos will be looking on with admiration.

  261. Hexhamgeezer
    March 17th, 2013 – 18:57
    As usual I cannot fault your logic. Osborne says he will compensate service personnel. It will surely be a case of robing Peter to pay Paul.

  262. Frank Sutton March 17th, 2013 – 14:36

    “If there is an EU-wide deposit protection guarantee to protect ordinary savers (and I believe here is ) then this Cyprus theft is surely in direct contravention.
    The EU giveth and the EU taketh away…”

    Frank I might well be wrong but I think that the “deposit protection guarantee” is there as protection in case the bank or a bank goes bust but what we are seeing is ‘theft by government’ from a bank balance.

    This is clearly dishonest, the sooner the Euro is ended the better, it makes one wonder who out of of the seventeen will be next?

    Belgium, Germany, Estonia, Ireland, Greece, Spain, France, Italy, Cyprus, Luxembourg, Malta, The Netherlands, Austria, Portugal, Slovenia, Slovakia and Finland.

  263. Malfleur (05:52)

    Couldn’t agree more and Sean Rayment is to be congratulated on a first rate report, clear and damning of the idiots currently in charge of both our armed forces and the CJS.

    Nice pics by Geoff Pugh, too, which tell their own story. Pity it isn’t a civvy jury that will decide. It would be a no-brainer … unless of course … I suppose he could finish up with panel of those taking the oath with the Koran.

  265. The Cyprus blagging will surely feature in the annals of infamy of the last and this millennia. The bulldozer through the bank should be the first of many demolitions, one hopes. Audacious organised theft of this magnitude must surely bring down the Euro and whole Brussels bureaucratic edifice. If it doesn’t …. well, first they came for Cyprus …

    The markets should make interesting reading tomorrow.

  266. David Ossitt
    March 17th, 2013 – 19:38

    Yes, I’ve heard this elsewhere too – obviously a guarantee with some wiggle room in the small print. They’d be better of if the banks had gone bust!

    Others have pointed out that anyone with savings in britain has been robbed by inflation. True enough, but I doubt whether the Cyprus scam will immunise the country to inflation.
    Talking of inflation – I see in the Telegraph that inflation “is heading for 3%”. They must mean it’s on the way down!

  267. In Victoria, Canada, this morning’s local rag, the Times Colonist, has a report (on page 13) headed – “China seeks to cool row with Japan over islands”. The report appears to have been issued by China’s official military website – presumably with the approval of the new Chinese President, Xi Jinping).

    The Times Colonist is a long way from being as august a newspaper as say, the National Post, but the report nonetheless contains a very interesting statement by a very well connected Chinese General called Liu Yuan who is the son of China’s late President, Liu Shaoqi.

    Part of the report reads –

    General Liu Yuan, a senior People’s Liberation Army officer close to the new leader , said soldiers had a duty to defend the country and must fight to win but this must be a last resort.

    “Nevertheless as a serviceman, I need to particularly make it clear to people what a war really is.” said Liu…

    “Since we have enjoyed peace for quite a long time, many young people do not know what a war is like. It is actually very cruel and costly. If there is any alternative way to solve the problem, there is no need to resort to the means of extreme violence for a solution.”

    On the face of it, General Liu Yuan was speaking about the dispute with Japan over a group of islands between the two countries. But was that all?

    I have the strong feeling that his reference to ‘many young people’ was a reference not so much to young Chinese as to Korea’s Kim Jung Un – and that his reference to ‘the means of extreme violence’ was a reference to nuclear weapons and to North Korea’s threats to use them. They seem (to me) to fit the Korean situation better than the dispute with Japan.

    Or am I reading too much into it?

  269. Cyprus

    “What’s just happened is the IMF has backed up, lauded, supported, and publicized, as if it were a victory, the taking of 10% of what really turns out to be 80% of Russian ‘black money.’ Russian ‘black money’ is KGB money, now in business. The leader of Russia (Putin) was a former KGB official. Whose money do you think they have taken? This is the biggest mistake the IMF could possibly have ever made.”

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/3/16_Sinclair_-_One_Of_The_Most_Important_Events_In_History_%26_Gold.html

  271. Monday lunchtime here in Australia. Share markets across Asia already falling, generally down around 2% and falling.

    Euro has fallen against the Aussie$ whilst the price of Gold is soaring.

    Has the EU finally screwed up? It’s one thing to knacker its home markets but the bulk of the ‘volatile’ nations are outside Europe and they are not likely to take this threat to their livelihoods lightly.

    And as Europeans wake up and realise that Merkel was largely to blame for pushing this state-sponsored theft, Farage’s warnings that a new war is coming are looking less fanciful by the hour.

  272. I don’t believe it! The EU is grabbing saver’s money and yet there isn’t mayhem in the streets. What next on the long march away from democracy and national autonomy?

  273. This from the New York Times –

    “For the first time since the onset of the euro zone sovereign debt crisis and the bailouts of Greece, Portugal and Ireland, ordinary depositors — including those in insured accounts — will being called on to bear part of the cost, 5.8 billion euros, through one-time levies on their savings.”

    “ONE TIME levies? That’s as believable as a promise from David Cameron.

  274. This EU Cyprus asset grab,according to the DT, is being labelled a tax so as to circumvent, yet again, it’s own ‘rules’ regarding deposit guarantees. The DT estimates we are on he hook for around £170m to compensate servicemen and woman with accounts over there. A Dutch EU finance minister describes the move as ‘just’. ‘Just’ about legal or ‘just’ about theft, or ‘just’ another trampling over thousands of blameless folks’ rights he doesn’t say.

    Private finance heads are looking closely at this, as well they might. ‘Exceptional’ or ‘one off’ money moves in the EU tend to become the norm soon enough.

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