The Coffee House Wall – 21st/27th March

Posted on March 21, 2016

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367 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 21st/27th March”

  1. Baron
    March 18th, 2016 – 15:39
    Emulous @ 15:16
    This must be a mistake, Emulous, cheating, bribery, corruption is something that happens only in Putin’s Russia.
    I read this from Quora:

    “Grinda suggested that there are two reasons to worry about the Russian mafia……….

    The second reason is the unanswered question regarding the extent to which Russian PM Putin is implicated in the Russian mafia and whether he controls the mafia’s actions. Grinda cited a “thesis” by Alexander Litvinenko, the former Russian intelligence official who worked on OC issues before he died in late 2006 in London from poisoning under mysterious circumstances, that the Russian intelligence and security services – Grinda cited the Federal Security Service (FSB), the Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR), and military intelligence (GRU) – control OC in Russia. Grinda stated that he believes this thesis is accurate. Grinda said that he believes the FSB is “absorbing” the Russian mafia but they can also “eliminate” them in two ways: by killing OC leaders who do not do what the security services want them to do or by putting them behind bars to eliminate them as a competitor for influence. The crimelords can also be put in jail for their own protection.”

    Old stuff but little changes.
    And I love Alexander Boot’s rhetoric on Putin:

    “In fact the unreconstructed KGB colonel enjoys as much benefit of the doubt today as Hitler did in the 1930s. The ghoulish führer too was admired by fascists like Mosley, assorted anti-Semites, leftie liberals like Lloyd George, businessmen like Henry Ford, conservatives like Lady Astor’s Cliveden set, some of the more prominent royals and, between 23 August, 1939, and 22 June, 1941, while the Nazi-Soviet Pact was in effect, even the communists.

    This climate of benign toleration mixed with adulation created by way of precipitation a demob, appeasement mentality across Europe, which in turn had well-publicised consequences, expressible in millions of corpses.

    History is never short of such useful, often life-saving lessons. But then, as the French poet and essayist Paul Valéry correctly observed, we never learn them.”

  2. Noa @ 21:38

    First, apology for curtailing our sparring match so abruptly yesterday, Noa, duty called, then MOTD2, then the two of us debating a musical performance of our grandson (performance?hmmm), followed with the barbarian indulging way over the limit on Merlot …

    You must have a legal training, your knowledge of the law goes some way, even here bringing in the courts if a poor steals from an even poorer unfortunate. What the law says may, very likely does reflect what sort of society the two live in, but the barbarian point was merely on a human level, not even moralistic, simply at the level of ‘one sees a hungry man, one has enough to eat, one shares it’. Many animals, not all, do the same, no morality, no law, no nothing.

    The argument hasn’t really changed that much with the disabled, it only was made that much more ‘human’.

    Still, consider this:

    All we humans do, have always done, is to extract from the world in one way or another about a dozen of soft and another dozen of hard commodities, like iron ore, gold, oil and wheat, maze, potatoes, then mould them into any shape and form that may be at vogue at any particular time.

    This is as bleeding obvious as they come, but it needs saying for the example to work, other stuff also enters into it like science and technology (and other disciplines) that makes the moulding more efficient, productive, faster and whatever. Thats what economic progress is all about.

    Well, imagine then, and it’s not stretching things too far because in some respects we’ve moved noticeably closer to it in the last half century, imagine the moulding is all carried out in a single plant somewhere in the shire countries, a large plant run by some thousand operatives. The rest of the society remains as it is (it’s not an argument about the locals against the newcomers), sixty plus million people still live here, but have nothing to do because the wealth, that’s the GDP at the most aggregate level, that’s currently turned out by the 30mn plus employed is produced by the small team of a thousand men and women in that shire county.

    You may say, what a silly idea, how does the same plant manages to bake a cake and a ballistic missile, but the narrative is just to give flavour to what has been gong on, and will go on in the future. There will be ups and downs in the process, but taken over centuries, the trending towards such an arrangement of wealth creation is hard to deny.

    As more high tech, robotics and stuff of this kind gets deployed, the need for human labour declines, the wealth created by the fewer remains the same, or even gets a boost. The best example clearly visible is that of agriculture, one 50s of people (2%) today produce in this country 5times the wealth of 100 years ago.

    The question, as you may have guessed, is how do we share such wealth?

    Any suggestion?

    (Baron has to go again, will come back to Robert, too)

  3. Before going, the barbarian has just notice another huge challenge to his skin deep knowledge of things.

    A request for Emulous: will you please tell the barbarian whether you speak Russian, have been to the country (lived there perhaps), have consulted sources (books?) other than Mr. Boot’s writings or Quora? If you insist Baron will answer the same question for you. It’s not because the barbarian like s to probe, it’s to know how to structure the argument with you.

    A deal?

  4. Makes no odds, but yes I have been to Russia and witnessed the adulation of the Mafia stooge.
    The Russian people do not think like you or I. They hanker after Peter the Great. They still smart from the Crimean war. They do not respect liberty or democracy. They cannot abide the loss of the Republics that were lost after 1989. They are paranoid about any loss of influence as witnessed in Syria. They know that Putin is thick as thieves with the Mafia. They do it care.

  5. A former Governor of the Federal Reseve, Lawrence B. Lindsey, has written a book, and given an interview and indeed hazards a view that “it may be true” that there is a drive for “a New World Order”. though he backs off a bit when push comes to shove – Good Boy! – but interesting:

    http://kingworldnews.com/larry-lindsey-3-12-16/

  6. Is what we are seeing, as between Mr. Ian Duncan Smith and Mr. George Osborne, the difference between a gentleman and a Bilderberger?

  7. Malfleur – 11:44

    … or between a Tory and a ‘liberal’?

    … or between a British patriot and an International ‘patriot’?

    … or between common sense and a complete tw**?

    … or between experience and an Oxford PPE graduate?

  8. RobertRetyred – 12:32

    GO’s degree was in Modern History, but my point still stands!

  9. Britain’s NHS can’t survive staying in the European Union

    Do you prefer the EU or the NHS? The referendum gives us a chance to keep our national health service alive, safe from open door immigration and TTIP

    “There is something in writing, that is formal that proves the NHS will be subject to the trade agreement. It is in a document that was filed in the European Parliament library in June, specifically about TTIP. It says: ‘The EU reserves the right to adopt or maintain any measure with regard to the provision of all education, health or social services which receive public funding or state support in any form.'”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/12196908/Britains-NHS-cant-survive-staying-in-the-European-Union.html

  10. IDS Our champion

    All our hopes and fears
    Rest on his shoulders.
    But he bears the weight
    With a smirk and wave.
    IDS our champion,
    Stalwart defender
    And grandiose fighter.
    He will never falter.
    At least not,
    When there’s an audience.

  11. Fergus Pickering @ 15:45

    IDS our champion? Come on Fergus, he should be backed inasmuch he bats for the ‘out’ crew, but when it comes to his contribution to the commonwealth he didn’t distinguish himself much when in charge, did he?

  12. RobertRetyred @ 13:58

    You should stop tempting the barbarian to switch to the ‘stay’ tribe, Robert.

    It’s in the papers today, the NHS trust that owns Moorfields is putting the main brick building in east London for sale. Why? Someone will make a fortune on re-developing it, why should’t it be the NHS trust?

    In Japan (no NHS), hospitals run anything you can think of it it makes them money. Here, it should be the same, but isn’t. The Trusts are legal entities, they have massive assets, own freehold properties in prime sites, the Moorfieldo building is a case in point, it sits almost opposite a new residential development with flats selling for over £1mn quid each, why not borrow against the old property, find a partner, re-develop the site, flog the units, get some needed cash for the patients.

  14. Noa @ 23:20

    Not that difficult to imagine the ending of the tea ceremony, Noa, a quick beheading after the soldiers finished clearing up the dishes?

  15. RobertRetyred 22:14

    You are hard to beat, Robert, you start with inequality, move to shopping habits, finish with kicking the boy, what an amazing talent you have.

    The barbarian has never argued for equality of outcome, impossible in a society based on meritocratic foundation, but he reckons that too much of a good thing is as bad as too little of it.

    Under the communist thuggery, nobody had any incentive to work hard because the reward was missing, in the new socialism we seem to be keen on moving to, the old rules of capitalism allow the rich to get richer faster than the ones in the middle or the bottom of the social ladder.

    The questionisn’t whether a fairer distribution of wealth would make a noticeable difference to the money in the plebeians’ pockets, it wouldn’t, it is that on its own the gap between the wealthiest 5% and the rest in our society is unfair, morally objectionable, socially unsustainable without either the non-rich feeling continually pissed off, or possibly even an unrest by the whole army of the unwashed.

  16. Noa, Frank gets it about right at 22:47 and 23.05, other culprits would be a more justifiable target for the law enforcement agencies.

    Imagine alos the cost of the charade, the only beneficiary would be the lawyers, and the lower end of the MSM.

  17. Emulous @ 10:17

    Difference it could make, Emulous, but let it be.

    People everywhere think and behave the way the environment (not mostly what surrounds them, the trees, abodes and stuff), but the sum of economic, financial, legal blah, blah environments moulds them to behave in a way that enables survival, and if possible, a touch of happiness.

    Put one born as a ‘lottery winner’ into a jungle, in 4-5 generations (give to take one or two) he’ll think and behave as those living there for generations. Look at Boris in London (not the only one, but the best known), if you knew not his pedigree, would you guess he’s the forth (or is it the third) generation Turk?

    Since Russia got set up way back in February 1612, the unwashed have known nothing but an oppression, free thought got extinguished, in particular in the last 70 years of the four centuries of darkness when the communist thugs ruled. Nabokov once quipped, rightly, too, that the history of Russia was the history of Russian Secret Service, nothing much changed there.

    The country today is corrupt, inefficient, unfree, marinated in bribes…. but, and this is what slices it, it’s less corrupt, less inefficient, less unfree, less marinated in bribes than she was when the communist thugs governed, and the ordinary Russians have never had it as good as they have it now.

    Still, have a look at this, tell Baron how come the honorary Muslim and his Eoropean poodles cannot stand Putin, but arse-lick the pre-medieval thugs of the ME?

    (Btw, Baron’s amazed the DM publishes the beheading video, are we about to witness a change in the West’s relations with the Saudi butchers? Have the Americans decide dto throw them overboard, as they did with other thugs in the ME?).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3502079/Saudi-Arabia-s-kingdom-savagery-DOES-Britain-cosy-butchers.html

  18. Baron – 17:10

    I wasn’t offering solutions, only possible options instead of a national system (that you had criticised), and they all have their drawbacks. I suppose I was showing that the ‘New Socialism’ won’t work, especially as we are becoming more diverse and everyone having a valid opinion, like windmills, solar, and everyone expecting a luxurious safety net!

    My point about the shopping was that even if everyone had the same disposable income, those with the right skills would have a much better quality of life, with better food cooked from raw, better quiet times, vegetables grown in the garden or better contacts with allotment growers. Perhaps no Sky TV, a shorter journey to work, cheaper activities, yet income is the be all and end all of most judgements.

    There is so much wasted, especially food, it must affect National GDP.

    The wealth difference is about more than income. It is not helped by many of our schools:
    http://www.conservativehome.com/platform/2016/03/joe-baron-we-must-halt-the-relentless-march-of-the-thought-police.html

    The problem occurs when childhood is full of the notion that wealth appears, without any application. Unfortunately, it can start at birth, in addition to it continuing throughout the education system.

    Culture nourishes, and we have not replaced what our lost culture used to provide. Well some keep it going, but they are Elitist!

  20. Baron – 17:10

    Those new to the workplace need experience and it is difficult to find when foreigners from countries with lower average pay are willing to work for less. They can return to their country, eventually, where their accumulated wealth goes a lot further. We used to do it by going to America, but it means the country’s education system is not tested. Too many are going to university without any idea why, and leaving realising they have done the wrong degree, haven’t picked up essential low level experience like dealing with customers or even being able to give good attention. It has always been a problem, but attitudes have changed, expectation is higher, so success is harder to obtain.

  21. RobertRetyred @ 17:58

    Agreed, Robert, fully, and btw, the response of the barbarian you are replying to wasn’t meant as criticism of what you said originally, quite the contrary, it was the seamless switching that Baron found impressive.

    You cannot be more right suggesting education matters, it does alot, without it, the society would turn backward. It’s a tragic failure of our system of education that so many still leave it almost illiterate.

    In Germany, the corporates have been disappointed with the immigrants, apparently hired only few hundreds as apprentices so far. Language, lack of basic education, and application at work were the three reasons given (the source: the Austrian and Czech papers).

  22. And another thing, Robert, our regional TV was full of talk of obesity today. Baron usually doesn’t watch the box, this afternoon he did, they were contrasting the look of kids in the 80s with those of today, the former almost all lean and hunky kicking the ball, riding bicycles, walking home from school, today’s children sitting down looking at one screen or another.

    It was linked with the VAT hike on sugary drinks, bollocks this, how could anyone think another 10p on a can of coke would stop youngsters drinking it? Only if they switch to beer or something stronger.

  25. Baron – 22:24

    Thanks.

    I have seen a report that of the migrants in Germany, around 15% are graduates (but they could be Islamic Studies graduates, that have NTDWI! 🙂 )), BUT 66% are illiterate, so no wonder corporates are disappointed.

    And would that be illiterate in their own language? 🙁

    I think the immigrants are jealous of our inner peace. It may not be many of us with it, or no way near the quality of the Indian subcontinent specialists, but when you consider the spiritual environment in which they have been submerged, anything would appear to be an infinite amount!

    It does mean that their jealousy will never be quenched as they won’t give up their old ways.

  27. The BBC were in total droolfest mode over Obama and Cuba tonight. No surprise given what each one represents for them.

    Obama appeared especially smug (it was a pilgrimage for him) and his empty rhetoric was as powerful as usual.

  29. RobertRetyred @ 23:36

    The problem the Germans have is what to do with the immigrants.

    Baron watched a video (embedded, impossible to link to) in which the police deal with shoplifting, all immigrants, one of them getting caught regularly, stealing food even though he has free living, a weekly allowance. He claimed it wasn’t enough, he was hungry, but the policeman remarked that it was more likely he spent the cash on drugs. None of the caught pilferers gets to court, the police just record the theft, lets the thieves go, drives many to their lodgings. It must be a nightmare for the law abiding Germans.

  30. Colonel Mustard @ 23:53

    It may be, Colonel, the Americans warmed up to the Cubans to prevent Putin establishing a closer relationship. Before the announcement of the new American approach few months back, Lavrov had visited Cuba few times, nobody knows why, the visits were apparently in secret.

  31. Frank P @ 18:22

    She doesn’t mince words, does she, Frank, and her warning about what may happen if Donald doesn’t get the nomination sounded ominous. Baron wonders, too, what will the reaction of the Donald’s supporters be if the GOP leadership plumps for someone other that Trump.

    The one point that Baron didn’t appreciate fully was her saying Ferguson, the Black Lives Matter and the Occupy movements all had happened before Donald announced he was going for the top job, and yet nobody has blamed the honorary Muslim, accused him of racism, dividing the society and the other stuff heaped on Donald now. Sickening this.

  33. “What BBC won’t tell you about Brexit: Why leave EU? Decline of Britain since 1973 EEC Tony Gosling”

    The Nazi economic system in Europe and the system of the European Union are the same.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAq1q1_swyM

    Who was it who said a long time ago that it was a Franco-German racket? This link will make you so pissed off you will want to leave the EU.

  37. The “College of Policing” announces that the “victims” of sexual offences will be believed unless there is credible evidence that their allegations are untrue.

    In other words police replace the presumption of innocence with a presumption of guilt and the burden of evidence passes from the prosecution to the defence.

    This monumental change in our system of justice passes without debate or even comment in Parliament.

    And since the requirement of the police is to investigate all crime without prejudice rather than to prosecute, with belief or non-belief of allegations dependent and subordinate to that primary requirement, the announcement further undermines the established tradition of impartial policing and breaches Peel’s 8th Principle of Policing:-

    “To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.”

    This even appears on a government website but of course the idiots in the Home Office who let the “College of Policing” utter this nonsense have not even bothered to try to understand the principle. And what public function does the unelected “College of Policing” own that it can make sweeping announcements to the media of changes to the justice system?

    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/policing-by-consent/definition-of-policing-by-consent

  40. Baron – 00:18

    We don’t really know what to do with our own illiterates: many can’t dig or weed, and that would be too demeaning for our illustrious visitors 🙂

  43. Sky News calls upon Chris Hobbs (an ex-police officer – allegedly); to say (with a straight face) “I can remember standing in the concourse of Heathrow and saying to colleagues, “If somebody was to come in ‘ere, either an active shooter, or wiv an IED they could do so so easily.””

    Presumably his colleague replied “No shit, Sherlock!”

  44. Colonel Mustard – 07:34

    “The “College of Policing” announces that the “victims” of sexual offences will be believed unless there is credible evidence that their allegations are untrue.”

    Unless, of course, their allegations involve a member or members of an identity group that enjoys protected status, in which case they will be blamed for bringing any such attack upon themselves.

    Meanwhile the Met’ have just closed down Operation Midland, unable to discover any perverts, past or present, in the Westminster bubble they would have us all believe.

    YCMIU !

  45. Frank P – 09:17

    Local BBC Radio offers strategy – keep your fingers crossed (it might not be that original, though)

  46. Frank P – 09:24

    Geert Wilders cross-referenced some of the same to “scum” and it land him in another kangaroo court at a secret location near Schipol airport. (That and saying that the the Netherlands might benefit from “fewer” Moroccans.)

  47. Brussels is twinned with Hell this morning. Who’da thunk it, eh?

    Donald Trump now has an open goal.
    Go Donald!

  48. Stand by, chaps! Whilst we speak, the BBC and the rest of the usual suspects are preparing their coordinated “Donald Trump is to blame for Brussels terrorist attack” narrative.

  49. EC March 22nd, 2016 – 09:47

    I did wonder if the announcement was linked to the winding up of that shambolic Operation Midland. Perhaps intended in a “common purpose”.

    The thing is that when the BBC glibly said “the College of Policing” I thought who is actually responsible for making this announcement? And why? What does Theresa May think about this? Were the Home Office aware? Behind it? Is the “College of Policing” somehow become a mouthpiece for a top down, centralised policing policy in a society where the pretence of independent Chief Constables is still being peddled? If so, who authorised that and why? There seems no media motivation to get to the bottom of this sort of unaccountable spin, to put these developments under scrutiny but just to take them at face value and regurgitate them for public consumption.

    As to the apparent protected status of certain identity groups, point taken!

  50. David Cameron has said he will hold a Cobra crisis meeting after the attacks in the Belgian capital.
    Thank Christ for that , I feel much better now.

  51. Stand by, chaps!

    Whilst the BBC/MSM is processing the long line of politicians queuing up to deliver their empty ROP/NTDWI tropes on camera they have “boots on the ground” as their Beeboids ( or equiv.) frantically…

    1. Scrutinise the scene of the bombings looking for an innocent muslim bystander, or a heroic doctor etc.
    2. In an attempt to further develop their muslim victim/backlash narrative they visit a “no go” area interview some bint in a burka who claims that someone once gave her a “funny look.”

  52. Donald gets one in first!

    Donald J. Trump ‏[@realDonaldTrump] 6 minutes ago

    “Do you all remember how beautiful and safe a place Brussels wss. Not anymore, it is from a different world! U.S. must be vigilant and smart!”

  54. The most wanted terrorist in Europe is arrested a few days ago Two-and-a -Half-Miles away from the headquarters of the European Union; in Molenbeek (see newsreel below-note the police dog ).

    Bomb explodes today at Maelbeek Metro station, 550 yards from the Berlaymont Building.

    https://youtu.be/Nay7IYu9PAo

  55. Satire is dead!

    Gerry Adams [@GerryAdamsSF Verified account]

    “Terrible News from Brussels. Thoughts & prayers with families of those killed & injured.”

    YCMIU !

  57. BRexit -Project Fear: When will the insanity end?

    Green industry tycoon, Lord (my arse!) Deben, (aka John Selwyn Gummer) the Chairman of the Committee on Climate Change, (CCC) has warned that Britain voting to leave the European Union (EU) poses a major threat to global environmental efforts!

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/21/climate-alarmists-join-project-fear-warn-brexit-will-harm-global-climate-change-efforts/

    “What we need is an increasing power for Britain – greater sovereignty, a stronger voice, and that we get inside the European Union.”

    WTF? This guy is nuts!

  59. As we dig deeper into the above..

    What is/Who TF are “The Grantham Institute’?

    http://www.imperial.ac.uk/grantham/about-us/about-us/

    … and so it goes on. When James Delingpole/Mark Steyn refer to “Big Climate” the two organisations above serve as examples of a minor cogs in its wheel. It goes deep!

    http://environmentalistsforeurope.org/who-are-we/

    HA! I wondered what Bill Oddie had been doing after he got the Bum’s rush from the BBC.

    Who pays for all this shit? Ultimately we all do, I suppose!

  60. The whitewash and spin are well under way. Tusk claims the only answer to the Brussels terrorist attacks is- more EU centralisation.

    Why haven’t Farage and other divisive terrorists been arrested?

  61. Before replying to Baron on Russia an evil thought for the day. Should I think that George Osborne telephoned Abu Bakhu al-Baghdadi to organise today?

    I am an even more poorly educated Individual, but I do understand that Russia is plagued by the twin problems of being a landlocked behemoth and having a history evolved from the childhood resentment of Ivan Grozny.
    Ivan never got over the abuse by his governors of his rightful position as Grand Prince of Moscow from the age of three. Those responsible in turn must be considered responsible for what he did to the Russian people. And in turn down the years the Russian people have understood that they must live lives at the behest of their leaders, whether Ivan, Peter, a succession of evil reds or Putin. And furthermore, all the way from Ivan to Putin the leadership has acted to try to access trade and foreign policy success via the Baltic and Black Sea with all the weather and military constraints that these impose. It is very easy to see why, in Russian eyes it was not only a right, but a duty to retreive the Crimea.
    The EU and US were both irresponsible to encourage the bloodshed engendered in hindering the progress to this end.
    We cannot see Russia as a modern Western state and again it is irresponsible to do so.
    As I said Lieutenant Colonel Putin is a Mafia man but also a true successor of Ivan. When the West understand that we will better deal with him.

    And just another:-
    You mention Sergei Lavrov. This is a man to watch. He articulates well the Putin doctrine on Ukraine:

    “I believe that attempts to drive a wedge between our peoples will fail, although by and large this is the chief aim. Somebody is very reluctant to see the restoration of the historical brotherhood of Russians and Ukrainians.”

  62. Baron March 21st, 2016 – 09:55

    How do we ‘share the wealth’ Baron?
    Why not do the obvious and confiscate it from the moderately well off, thirsty, prudent and hard working?
    Then keep 50% of what you’ve taken and distribute the balance to those who shout loudest and provides you with the best return, in cash or kind.
    Now that we have established the principle and basis of modern democratic government let us turn to your example.
    Whilst agricultural productivity may have increased exponentially and the numbers of people employed generally has decreased the human population has also increased dramatically.
    I do not claim any Malthusian correlation between the two events, though it can be inferred, but it probably offsets the basis of your proposition that there is greater wealth to share.
    However, the UK could feed and support itself from its own resources in the mid 19th century. It cannot do so now.

  66. I managed the first 20 minutes of The World at One today – not one mention of Islam or Muslim. Stourton et al call themselves journalists but he didn’t seem very questing after truth, I mean it must require a very particular brain when reporting on three explosions, maybe 30 dead and not ask the the question, who did it?
    Once again I say that political leaders and royalty should be given no extra security. Parliament, for instance, should have no more security for people going in and out than does the local Tesco. They should not be insulated, the reverse in fact. As they’re the ones whose policies put civilians at risk, they should out of a sense of decency actually be the ones who “draw fire”.

  67. Noa @ 13:09

    It won’t be long before Nigel, other terrorists, even grumblers like us will get arrested, or at least silenced, just give them time, Noa, they’re working on it.

  68. Emulous @ 13:22

    That’s one way to look and see Russia, Emulous.

    Btw, open the history book again, see it was around Kiev where Mother Russia was born, there’s a rizla thin difference between the Russians and the Ukrainians. When the American got seriously interested in Ukraine, the KGB Colonel messed it up for them by taking over the peninsula (they spent $5.0bn to get it), the barbarian said (is sticking to it) that when the neocons lose interest the two members of the family will unite again, blood ties trump everything the Americans can offer.

  69. Irishboy @ 14:24

    The barbarian was listening to the same programme, too, Irishboy, what cheered him up was the bloke calling from Brussels, locked up in a hotel, more than anxious. He was there to attend a conference on ‘Understanding Radicalisation’.

    One couldn’t make it up, ha?

  71. Noa @ 13:35

    There are now more people employed in the non-private sector i.e. government, all its agencies, NGOs, charities bla bla (in other words people living on transfer payments, i.e. tax and borrowed money) than not. What enables it is the surplus creamed off the wealth creators in the private sector.

    What should worry us equally are the 5mn of those who have never ever held a job.

  72. ECM @11:41

    Thanks for the link!

    As his anti-globalist credentials are unpacked and hung up on display, I wish Trump could be persuaded to give a Brexit speech to his British supporters in the US!

  75. EC @ 14:22

    Thank you for that link also. Not really Wilders who is on trial here…

  76. Baron March 22nd, 2016 – 14:43

    We shall soon be in a situation where the half who work pay tax to fund the unelected common purpose busybodies who tell us what to do, what we can think, write or say. Those parasites will say that they pay tax too but since that tax comes from salaries funded and/or subsidised by the rest of us, honestly working, it doesn’t wash.

    It will become a sort of Soviet party apparatchik vs pleb situation where we are taxed to fund their elitist lifestyles as they preach socialism to us.

  78. NTDWI? Makes as much sense as saying that the Blitz was NTDWN.

    And why not? Because is wasn’t Naziism. It was the Luftwaffe……

  80. Colonel Mustard March 22nd, 2016 – 16:01

    “We shall soon be in a situation where the half who work pay tax to fund the unelected common purpose busybodies…”

    Demonstrably, given the annual deficit, the national debt and the interest payable thereon, we have already reached that position.
    When, one asks, will the PRC, the Hidujas and the Al Sauds foreclose on this sceptic isle, sub-primed, mortgaged and leveraged as we are?
    Messrs Cameron and Osborne are not so much the first minister and chancellor of a sovereign solvent state, rather they are bailiffs, enforcing repossession orders or extracting payments from an already garnisheed sink estate tenant.

  81. Calm down, everyone, the honorary Muslim has the answer. He just said ‘we should all stick together regardless of our race or faith …’

    It beggars belief they still insist on the same delusional explanation, there hasn’t been one single mention of the perpetrators ‘race or faith’, the central controls work well for the MSM, it’s all terrorists, terrorists, terrorists.

    What’s stopping them saying ‘look, it’s a mutation of the ROP, it’s evil, we have to destroy it’? The only plausible explanation that offers itself is that they are scared to offend the whole of the ROP community here and elsewhere. Mistake this for the mainstream ROP pursues identical goals, the world domination of the faith, once again the top layers of the ROP will pretend to disapprove what the murderous thugs have just done, but deep down they know the suicide bombers are fighting for the same cause, have the same goal.

    If we were to hit the ‘boisterous thugs’ hard (during the WW2 we interned every German living here), perhaps the mainstream followers of the faith would get the message, cease infiltrating our culture, submit to our values.

    There’s a glimmer of good news on the tragedy, however much the progressives will try to convince the unwashed this new atrocity has ‘nothing to do with Islam, nothing to see here, it’s terrorism pure’, fewer people will buy it, Donald should get a boost.

    A ‘virtual fiver’ to anyone who comes across a piece in the MSM blaming Putin.

  83. The chipmunk, aka Bleary Hazel, just got wheeled out to Sky News to spew out a load of bollocks about terrorist atrocities; pontificating at length about ‘seven-seven’ and taking credit for police training and how the ‘exercises’ before it happened alleviated the atrocity when it occurred. Really?

    Her hair was obviously on fire, so I called the fire brigade to alleviate the ensuing disaster of the TV studio burning down. Has anyone seen her barnet of late without the protection of welders goggles? Jeez!

    CMD “We must stand together to make sure the terrorists don’t win.”

    They already did, you stupid cunt! Again and again and again. And they will continue to do so as a result of the policies of you and your predecssors who proclaim that it is NTDWI!

    CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDERS!!

    Clear out the nests of vipers; send them back to the sand, where they belong.

    How much longer are we going to put up this shit without retaliation?

  87. Baron March 22nd, 2016 – 14:43

    “There are now more people employed in the non-private sector…What should worry us equally are the 5mn of those who have never ever held a job.”

    Acutely observed, Baron. Add together the votes of the public sector workers and the 5m Never Employeds whose needs they service and you have a permanent voting majority, to be bought by the political elite of whatever hue at the best negotiable price.

    The remainder of us, that effectively disenfranchised majority, the new Helots, are here simply to work in order to service their needs.

  89. Noa @ 19:07

    Quite, Noa, and since a u-turn on the road to perdition is impossible through the ballot box, it can only end up in a catastrophic implosion of the system. The timing of it though is hard to guess, all one can do is repeat the ‘man from Barcelona’: eventually.

  91. RobertRetyred @ 18:55

    Not a bad idea at all, Robert, the men could even run the sex awareness classes, they seem to have enough experience from real life, no?

  92. Frank P @ 18:15

    The boy only repeated what the boss told him to say, Frank, did better than the parroting beancounter Hammond, used the verb ‘stand’ rather than ‘stick’ together, will he be forgiven though? He better watch out.

  93. Baron 19.01

    Interesting post Baron, some of which one agrees with, some much more questionable. The modern origins of Islamic terrorism for example, are not simply a reaction to Western Darwinianism and control of resources, but lie as much, if not more, in a cultural antipathy to the West and a religious hatred of Christianity and its principles.
    The same writer has penned a similar article today, using Brussels as his pivot. One suspects it has been written for a while, the location to be added on the occurrence of the trigger.
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/22/zero-sum-in-brussels-the-savage-vision-driving-a-terror-ridden-world/
    http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/03/22/zero-sum-in-brussels-the-savage-vision-driving-a-terror-ridden-world/

  95. DT: David Cameron says Britain should focus on “expressing sympathy” with Belgium

    Those in Belgium’s capital have very little sympathy with Britain.

  96. “Belgian police have recently said at least 90 returned fighters from the Islamic State are living at liberty in Brussels, many of them in the infamous Molenbeek neighbourhood. European Commission insider Hermann Kelly told Breitbart Radio this morning he was concerned so many lived just miles from the political capital of the European Union.

    Mr. Kelly said: “This is amazing to me that these people can kill people abroad, come here, and then walk free in the centre of Brussels”.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/03/22/geert-wilders-speaks-to-breitbart-on-brussels

    Worse than Cameron’s ‘It’s Nothing To Do With Islam’?

    That’s a tough one to decide.

  97. On the Guardian blog bungobingo says:

    “The truly bizarre thing is Japan, a first world country, has never experienced an Islamic atrocity.

    The Japanese people do not fear Islamic terrorism or rape gangs.

    The Japanese government have no deradicalisation programme in place and their security services don’t have a single policy in place for dealing with it.

    If only they would share their secret with us.”

  98. Baron @ 19:08

    Yes, it pleases; but what doesn’t is the reluctance (see how nice I am) of CHW’s to admit existence and role of the new world order in the assault on western civilization.

    This “no credible evidence” line just will not wash.

  99. Allan Hall “London Times Correspondent” – (who he?) complete wanker, just spoke on The Factor, on behalf of all we “Europeans” and told Bill O’Reilly that there is no will to fight ISIS “over here”. Who TF does he think he is to represent the views of his fellow Europeans (including us – presumably). Has anybody ever heard of him?

    I suspect that most squaddies would be only too willing to return to the fray, with the right rules of engagement if we could rid them of the current crop of pusillanimous politicised military ‘leaders’ and the clueless politicians who are failing to lead the fight against the jihad.

  102. Meantime a very brave order by our doughty Prime Minister – and the POTUS:

    “Flags will be flown at half mast!”

    That will undoubtedly scare the shit out of the jihadists!

    Obummer gave the order from a baseball game in Coooba, with a gigantic sketch of Che Guevara in the background!!

  103. The most irritating of Ted Cruz’s tics are the long pauses between each sentence (as though her is addressing his remarks at a particularly stupid jury) and the nod and sneer at the end of each tortuous paragraph, which is particularly punchworthy.

  104. In my link at 01:4 above at about 13:25 minutes in, Alex Jones names the guilty principals. Let’s bring our points of light from all over the country to bear on them.

  105. The Foreign Office is urging us to be vigilant.

    That and the immediate restoration of an untrammeled right to bear arms might make a policy.

  106. Hey Limeys.
    Donald told you so and you voted to exclude him. Yall look pretty dumb ass today. Last night Trump nailed it.
    “I will tell you, I’ve been talking about this a long time, and look at Brussels,” Trump said. “Brussels was a beautiful city, a beautiful place with zero crime. And now it’s a disaster city. It’s a total disaster, and we have to be very careful in the United States, we have to be very careful and very vigilant as to who we allow in this country. ”
    Well next January Mr Hollande will be welcome in the Oval Office but not your Mr Cameron. He can bring over the delightful Samantha and come on down to Kentucky. We will put on a fine spread in The People’s House, Frankfort, but The White House, hell no.
    I note any ways that Cameron is having a little local difficulty but no dude has the balls to take him on and certainly not scatterbrain Johnson who is buffoonised in our press.
    Love and kisses to Andy Car Parks.

  107. Frank P March 23rd, 2016 – 01:37

    To be followed no doubt by a minute’s silence and that most devastating of modern responses the candlelit vigil! A mighty heap of candles, flowers, cards and teddy bears surrounded by trendy young couples hugging each other, looking sanctimonious on camera and taking selfies. If only we had had such strength, fortitude and determination during the Blitz, that would have shown the Luftwaffe.

    Come on Cameron, get the piano out and treat us to a mawkish performance of “Imagine” from Downing Street. Show us some “solidarity”. We want “solidarity” and a candlelit vigil of our own.

  108. John Jefferson must wear a wry smile at the Limey cynicism coupled with hypocrisy that allows a plebiscite to keep Donald Trump out and also dismisses honest attempts to as (communist) Obama says stand with the beleaguered Belgians.

  109. Hatred recognises no limits.
    Paris or Brussels Bombings,
    innocent ones die.

    in Istanbul or Pakistan,
    atrocities unlabelled.
    innocent ones die.

    Mosul or Berlin,
    Lives should have the same value.
    innocent ones die.

    innocent ones die,
    religion or politics~~~
    extremism kills.

    Terrorism reigns.
    the world is no longer safe.
    innocent ones die.

    say a prayer for all.
    terror plays no favourites.
    innocent ones die.

    Where to holiday now?
    Tunisia, Turkey or Rome.
    innocent ones die.

    But are all innocent?
    Or complicit of joy.
    The guilty die as they should.

  110. Colonel Mustard – 07:20

    “Come on Cameron, get the piano out and treat us to a mawkish performance of “Imagine” from Downing Street. Show us some “solidarity”. We want “solidarity” and a candlelit vigil of our own.”

    I wonder if John Kerry has despatched the cadaverous, James Taylor to Brussels to mumble “You’ve Got A Friend” down a microphone in order to cheer Les Belges up. That’d be a Frites Night to remember!

  111. I also noticed that yesterday morning there was no difference between the
    the coverage of Brussels between Al Beeb and Al Jazeera in that neither used the “T”, “I” or “M” words once!

    Melanie Phillips [@MelanieLatest 16m ago]
    “#bbcnews website after a while manages to describe Brussels attacks as terrorism, then changes its mind again”

    http://bbcwatch.org/2016/03/23/bbc-news-website-flip-flops-on-description-of-brussels-attacks-as-terrorism-part-one/

  112. John Jefferson Burns March 23rd, 2016 – 07:37

    I couldn’t give a flying fox what kind of smile “JJB” wears but put this in your big ugly pipe and smoke it, and smoke it REAL good:-

    A silly petition does not a nation define or a plebiscite make. The deluded loonies who signed the petition to ban Trump from UK entry amounted to less than 0.5% of the supposed UK population let alone the actual one. From voting statistics there are approximately 19 million deluded left wing loonies living in the UK. Less than 3% of them signed the Trump petition.

    Got it?

  113. Rod Liddle on Brussels:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/03/brussels-has-become-a-hotbed-of-islamic-extremism/

    It was only a matter of time before Brussels got the suicide-bomb allahu akbar treatment, as the Belgians knew full well. Part of the city – especially Molenbeek – is a cesspit of Islamic extremism. The authorities have been content to let such areas fester and until recently the police were noticeable by their absence. Quite aside from the Isis-inspired suicide bombers, a whole crescent (suitably enough) along the north-west seaboard of Europe has proved fertile ground for the Arab European League, a violently anti-Semitic and anti-western Islamist movement which has attracted scant attention, despite its typically vile programme. From Lille in the south, via Brussels, Antwerp, The Hague all the way to Rotterdam, whole towns and suburbs have Muslim populations in excess of 40 per cent. Political parties which have opposed this colonisation (such as Vlaams Belang) are excluded from government and denied airtime.

    One assumes it will be London next. Again. And the terrorists will be home-grown – from Tower Hamlets or Luton or Kirklees. Indulged at an early age in their adolescent and narcissistic sense of victimhood. We will be told, when the atrocity happens, that they were ‘radicalised’ by something or someone, as if their espousal of Islamism had been imposed upon them extraneously. Another nonsense, along with all the other nonsenses we are fed in order to placate that section of the Muslim community which doesn’t necessarily want us all dead yet.

  117. A tolerable morning spoilt.With the junk mail comes an item from `Stronger In EU`.This is on glossy paper,size A3 (twice the size of A4). Every statement is a lie and/or a threat.It predicts Doom ;war,the rise of crime ,higher prices;threats from army leaders [ Brexit leaves Britain vulnerable to threats of Isil and Russia ] and Sir Hugh Orde [former head of ACPO ].

    There is a lot of money spent on this.

  118. EC March 23rd, 2016 – 13:54

    I can well understand their feelings about Obama’s visit to Cuba. The equivalent of Corbyn’s Tea with ISIS.

  119. The Home Secretary’s response to the International atrocity in Brussels: ‘Thoughts and prayers’. The response of the Defence Secretary and the Foreign Secretary zero. Schtum!

    Result: yet another victory for Islam in their inexorable, 1400 year jihad against Infidels.

    During the last three or four decades the enemy has gained more ground Westwards than ever before and their global infiltration, using the methods espoused by Antonio Gramsci and his Long March strategy, is to all intents and purposes complete.

    Cue Sir Richard Mottram.

    The waffle from all official hand wringers today, from round the world, has been nauseating. Meanwhile Obama kisses communist arse in Cuba and swans around on an Argentinian boondoggle.

    Western Civilisation is on its back; it’s soft underbelly exposed and quivering.

    Vote Brexit as the first move in the fight back. The fight to clear out the Westminster Gasworks of all of its current incumbents.

    How? Aye there’s the rub. At this rate the enemy may well do it for us, ere long.

  121. A post by weirdvisions at Conservative Woman:

    Three things NOT inside Obama’s White House.

    Churchill’s bust.
    Democracy.
    A US President.

  122. John Jefferson Burns @ 07:08

    “Donald told you so and you voted to exclude him.”

    The GOP also seems to be doing its best to exclude Trump – in alliance with the Democrat Party and all the conventional bought and sold American media, despite Donald “having told them so”. What does that tell us?

  123. Airport Security

    A couple of months ago a jar of fine New Zealand honey was seized from my hand luggage by the vigilant Hong Kong airport security staff and tossed away.

    How did the three massive bombs and triggers escape security at Brussels airport?

    Whether detection devices are placed too far forward or too far back in these public spaces, how many bombs have been detected in this manner? I realized of course that the riposte to this is to hazard how many bombers have been deterred by the presence or suspected presence of these devices.

    As Hillary Clinton made sure that islamic terrorists be provided with 400 surface-to-air Stinger missiles, it will for the foreseeable future be unnecessary for them to try to sneak their explosives on board. They can concentrate on the check-in counters and public areas before immigration.

    My own solution, though it might flutter some feathers in the dovecot, would be to launch serious investigations of all those who might have information on or might be suspected of being involved in running the terrorists. Not a task beyond the wit of our people, I would think, as long as they are playing on our team of course.

    Where did they get their jars of honey, for instance?

    It was speculated on the Wall when governments first permitted and encouraged the criminal flood of illegal aliens across European borders that places d’armes would soon follow, or might have already been effected, which the percentage of terrorists inevitably contained within that flood could take advantage of to implement their murderous orders.

    Limiting criminal investigations to the narrow circle of the actual participants in the terrorist acts is part of the conspiracy.

    How about a petition for government to launch an investigation to discover all possible persons at home and abroad regardless of their position in society who might have had a hand in planning or implementing such outrages? ISIS, that creature of NATO and other unlikely interests,has already brazenly stated that it will hit England harder than Belgium.The time unfortunately will shortly be ripe to circulate that petition. Begin drafting now.

  124. As Defender of the Faith, does the monarchy not have a duty, not to mention an interest, in speaking out on the question of the attacks on Christianity by islam within and without the United Kingdom?

  125. We used to make jokes about Athens airport : the place where they sold six-packs of hand-grenades at the duty-free.

  126. More mail to come.
    Leading British Entreprenear Backs Brexit in Mega Mailshot.
    That is Peter Hargreaves CBE ,a self-made billionaire,who is sending-out 23 million letters supporting the GO> campaign.

    http://bit.ly/1ShAyAD

  128. EC @ 09:34

    It would be by far more enjoyable for them as well as for us, EC, if instead of smirking in front of the great man’ statue, they were in bed, arseholes.

    The barbarian forgets which of the ladies the fat one bedded said it, but asked how it felt she replies ‘as if a huge wardrobe fell upon you, the key in’.

  129. “The incomparable Mark Steyn” (ack. Michelle Malkin) pens a barnstorming round up of his own prescience after Brussels:

    http://www.steynonline.com/7493/tomorrow-civilizational-cringe-today

    After that essay perhaps any further waffling from those paid to protect us becomes redundant.

    Why is his work only available on the intertubes and in other countries, on paper, TV and radio?

    Couldn’t be because he dresses to the right, speaks truth to power and takes no prisoners, could it?

  130. EC @ 13:54

    The visit had to happen, EC, the barbarian has said it before, the Russians were trying to convince Raul to ease off the grip on power, to follow either their or the Chinese model, and obviously get closer to Russia, the honorary Muslim couldn’t risk Cuba falling under the influence of one of the three threats to the world (remember ebola, Russia, ISIS?). Hence the visit of the top guy of a country that’s supposed to be the champion of freedom, but is more than friendly with the salafist Saudi Arabia, whose regime beheads women like chicken on a public road.

    Che who today adores not just walls in Havana but also many a T-shirt, hats and any other piece of apparel suitable for his image. The man was a psychopathic killer, keen diarist, too. One of the entries reads: ‘I fired a 32-calibre bullet into the right hemisphere of his brain, which came out through his left temple’, he moaned for few moments, then died’.

    Not many MSM scribblers would bother to mention it, would they.

  131. Frank P March 23rd, 2016 – 18:19

    Brilliant.

    And the idiots did sing ‘Imagine’! The political class is wet, spineless, appeasing, useless and not fit for purpose. If the only response to mass murder is one minute’s silence, candlelit vigils, hugging each other, bleating about ‘solidarity’ and trying to pin the blame for the murderous bastards on their victims then the plot has been well and truly lost.

    Angry? You bet.

  132. Colonel Mustard (21:52)

    Livid I would guess. Here’s something else to keep the pot boiling:

    “Lurch” Kerry, the Heinz gigolo, is being despatched to Brussels tomorrow by O’Bummer who is smarting in face of the criticism over his Cooba boondoggle.

    Wonder which clapped out pop star he will take with him – to sing what?

  135. Colonel Mustard @ 21:52

    Baron’s afraid, Colonel, you may be wrong thinking the only response to the new atrocity will be just the few minutes of silence, sea of flowers, flags at half mast. It’s just the first phase of the enhanced ‘war on terror’, (some of it may be justified in that one has to acknowledge the enormity of the terror, most of it though is just pure virtue signalling mawkishness).

    The next stage will follow, and if past experience is anything to guide one, the ‘punished’ will be the unwashed, those who were the target for the bombers, the lot of us. More regulations, new laws, further curtailment of the freedom of expression, crackdown on critics of the ROP, that sort of stuff.

  137. Frank P March 23 @ 18:19 re. Mark Steyn’s piece

    “Clearly we need a secure zone outside the secure zone”

    They have this at one of the Manila airports. In order to reach the check-in counters beyond which is immigration and then security screening for hand-carried bags only, you enter the building from the street by one of a number of doors each of which has a screening machine through which you have to run your luggage. In order to enter those doors, people typically queue up in long lines along the outside wall of the building parallel with and adjacent to the road which is the drop-off point for arriving passengers.

    And entering the airport perimeter, there is also a cursory visual check – no sniffer dogs by contrast with one or two of the best hotels.

    ***

    I personally find it difficult to persuade myself that what we are seeing in Europe, and soon to see in the USA, is not a campaign. Mark Steyn himself seems to lean in that direction when he writes that “this problem was in plain sight a decade ago – and all M Jambon and the rest of the European political class did was sit back and accelerate the rate of Islamization”. We have to ask, if we have not already done so, ‘why would they do that?’. And we have to answer it, at least with a hypothesis.

    I would also need to be persuaded that there is some other way of ending the campaign, and preventing future campaigns, than to find and arrest the people who are running it. And to punish them fittingly pour encourager les autres.

    *****

    With regard to Mark Steyn’s anecdote of the murder of Mr. Guido Demoor,and the failure of any of the other 40 passengers to come to his assistance,I hope that some of our special services personnel would consider the initiative of the American Tim Kennedy’s “Sheepdog Response” (h/t Alex Jones March 22nd):

    ” A Sheepdog’s Response
    People face threats of violence every day, ranging from large-scale terrorism to one-on-one assaults. Most people are unprepared, unequipped, and untrained to respond effectively. This weakness in the flock allows the wolves to attack with great ease and success.
    The answer is not more laws. The wolves don’t follow them. We must give the good guys the tools they need to effectively respond to violence. The more Sheepdogs we can train to be truly ready to respond to a mass shooting, terrorist attack, violent mugging or home invasion, the better the chances are that the bad guys will get what they deserve and the good guys will survive. Most people sign up for martial arts or weapons training expecting to learn realistic self-defense, and few get it…”

    http://sheepdogresponse.com/about/

    Ok, a very American response. What would be the English equivalent? Does England need sheepdogs? And how much can “the good guys” in England do, when the only weapon they are allowed is a pair of boxing gloves? And how can the toothless would-be sheepdogs of Dad’s Army prepare to make a contribution which they hope may never be called on?

  138. Viktor Orbán: “The Time Has Come for Opposition and Resistance”

    “…Europe, our common home, is not free… Europe is not free, because freedom begins with speaking the truth. Today in Europe it is forbidden to speak the truth.Even if it is made of silk, a muzzle is still a muzzle.It is forbidden to say that those arriving are not refugees, but that Europe is threatened by migration. It is forbidden to say that tens of millions are ready to set out in our direction. It is forbidden to say that immigration brings crime and terror to our countries.It is forbidden to point out that the masses arriving from other civilizations endanger our way of life, our culture, our customs and our Christian traditions..

    …It is forbidden to point out that this is not an accidental and unintentional chain of consequences, but a preplanned and orchestrated operation; a mass of people directed towards us.

    It is forbidden to say that in Brussels they are concocting schemes to transport foreigners here as quickly as possible and to settle them here among us.
    It is forbidden to point out that the purpose of settling people here
    is to reshape the religious and cultural landscape of Europe, and to reengineer its ethnic foundations. — thereby eliminating the last barrier to internationalism: the nation-states…

    …Today’s enemies of freedom are cut from a different cloth than the royal
    and imperial rulers of old, or those who ran the Soviet system; they use a different set of tools to force us into submission. Today they do not imprison us, they do not transport us to concentration camps,and they do not send in tanks to occupy countries loyal to freedom. Today the international media’s artillery bombardments, denunciations, threats and blackmail are enough — or rather, have been enough so far.
    The peoples of Europe are slowly awakening, they are regrouping,and will soon regain ground….”

    http://gatesofvienna.net/2016/03/viktor-orban-the-time-has-come-for-opposition-and-resistance/

  139. “…In the end we find ourselves being told to pack up and leave our own land….” (ibid.)

  140. Orbán calls out the New World Order

    “…Today it is written in the book of fate that hidden, faceless world powers
    will eliminate everything that is unique, autonomous, age-old and national.
    They will blend cultures, religions and populations, until our many-faceted
    and proud Europe will finally become bloodless and docile.
    And if we resign ourselves to this outcome, our fate will be sealed,
    and we will be swallowed up in the enormous belly of the United States of Europe.
    The task which awaits the Hungarian people, the nations of Central Europe
    and the other European nations which have not yet lost all common sense
    is to defeat, rewrite and transform the fate intended for us…” (ibid.)

  141. A powerful speech, Malfleur, the most hard hitting one the barbarian has come across, thanks for the link. Would any of the MSM scribblers even mention its existence though?

    Georg Hegel: “It is said that there are no sudden changes in nature, and the common view has it that when we speak of a growth or a destruction, we always imagine a gradual growth or disappearance. Yet we have seen cases in which the alteration of existence involves not only a transition from one proportion to another, but also a transition, by a sudden leap, into a  qualitatively different thing; an interruption of a gradual process, differing qualitatively from the preceding, the former state”.

    If one were to listen to the man, buy what he said perhaps the transformation of quantity into a new qualitative state is not that far away. Or will the one who speaks on behalf of the world community together with the temporarily muted Mutti and her poodles (have you notice how she disappeared from the news?) organise a Hungarian Maidan?

    What do you reckon?

  144. Baron @ 03:28

    Karl Marx: “Mankind thus inevitably sets itself only such tasks as it is able to solve, since closer examination will always show that the problem itself arises only when the material conditions for its solution are already present or at least in the course of formation!.”

  145. Baron, March 23rd, 2016 – 23:51;
    Malfleur, March 24th, 2016 – 02:26

    Very interesting links, ta.

  148. If two thirds of the immigrants are illiterate, no wonder we won’t need local libraries.

  149. RobertRetyred – 10:43

    Not sure about that…..I thought that the Victorian creation of public libraries was intended to encourage those who had achieved a basic level of literacy to improve.

  150. In their coverage of the Brussels terror attacks the BBC insist on interviewing some old dippy hippy Belgian woman from ‘Women Without Borders’ peddling that tedious and totally bogus left-wing bullshit that the problem is caused by the way society treats and ‘radicalises’ young Muslim men, e.g. “blame the host society”. Equivalent to saying that if you get shot it is your fault for alienating the bullet. These people are mental and need to get out of the way.

    As usual the Wiki entry on the founder of this dodgy organisation is light on personal biography and political leanings but I’m guessing that Edit Schlaffer is not a conservative and works to a global common purpose in promoting her sexist nonsense. You won’t find these “Women Without Borders” using their supposed global freedom of travel to go to Syria to talk to ISIS about their theories, oh no.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edit_Schlaffer

  151. In peddling Project Fear for Vichy Dave, Defence Secretary Fallon, who presides over more Admirals than warships, claims that we have border controls.

    Ha! Clearly he didn’t watch Panorama last night.

  152. Baron March 24th, 2016 – 00:02

    Agreed. The immediate response is the mawkish crap and political sanctimony, followed by the state punishing the innocent for the sake of the guilty.

  153. Something else weird on the BBC this morning. They are talking about the terrorist arrested in Belgium not opposing his extradition to France.

    WTF? What happened to the fast track European Arrest Warrant? Or is that something that Vichy Dave only operates against British tourists who misbehave on holiday abroad? An Islamic terrorist is involved and suddenly we are into extradition and human rights lawyers.

  154. Hogan-Howe being a total pillock again. Not thinking through the full ramifications of making the victims of online fraud rather than banks responsible for their losses and showing total ignorance of the way rip-off financial institutions operate against their customers.

    Get lost H-H and concentrate on getting on with your job in your comic opera uniform, which is not about intervening in banking practice. And take the other “ACPO” prat who put his head above the parapet with this stupid idea with you.

  155. There is a BMA junior doctor teenager Owen Jones clone on Daily Politics wearing a bright red pullover under his jacket. No-one has asked him directly if he is a paid-up member of the Labour or another socialist political party. I just bet that he is.

  157. EC
    Wed, 23 Mar 2016 13.54

    ‘“JJB” would do well smirk off! However, if he insists on hanging around then perhaps he might care to reflect upon the acute shame and embarrassment that Obama’s visit to Cuba has caused.’

    Yall will have noticed the hatred of most of my compatriots for that Muslim pinko. Even Sanders who is more honest about his communism is preferable. But if he can get our Corporations back into Havana then I welcome it. My family has stock in Coca Cola and I can see that a Cuban endorsement is good for sales and payout.

  158. EC. Wed, 23 Mar 2016 1354

    “JJB” would do well smirk off! However, if he insists on hanging around then perhaps he might care to reflect upon the acute shame and embarrassment that Obama’s visit to Cuba has caused.

    Yall will have noticed the hatred of most of my compatriots for that Muslim pinko. Even Sanders who is more honest about his communism is preferable. But if he can get our Corporations back into Havana then I welcome it. My family has stocks in Coca Cola and I can see that a Cuban endorsement is good for sales and payout.

  159. Malfleur
    March 23rd, 2016 – 15:16
    John Jefferson Burns @ 07:08
    ‘“Donald told you so and you voted to exclude him.”
    The GOP also seems to be doing its best to exclude Trump – in alliance with the Democrat Party and all the conventional bought and sold American media, despite Donald “having told them so”. What does that tell us?’
    What it tells us is that the Party has lost touch. You would find that if you had our system Mr Farage would run away with the election.

  162. EC @ 13:43

    Superbly well argued, EC, short, to the point, and so spot on in its structure it should be the blueprint for anyone arguing the same. Pity his son is so mediocre in his scribbling.

  165. Ostrich (occasionally) – 11:25

    They don’t read the sort of books that are in our libraries.

  166. It’s not as though there are no aids to reality around:

    Jihad In Brussels

    * “Islam belongs in Europe…. I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture.” — Federica Mogherini, EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy.

    * The Western narrative represents a complete refusal to examine the doctrines of Islam, out of fear of offending Muslims. This is not a purely European phenomenon. The Obama Administration ordered a cleansing of training materials that Islamic groups deemed offensive.

    * One crucial aspect of sharia that the West refuses to internalize is the injunction to perform jihad, both violent and non-violent.

    * “[T]he most important factor is Belgium’s culture of denial… Observers who point to unpleasant truths such as the high incidence of crime among Moroccan youth and violent tendencies in radical Islam are accused of being propagandists of the extreme-right, and are subsequently ignored and ostracized.” — Teun Voten, a Dutch cultural anthropologist who lived in a Muslim area of Brussels between 2005 and 2014.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7685/jihad-in-brussels

  167. Baron
    March 24th, 2016 – 03:15

    Adding my thanks for the link to Ann Coulter.

    Her comments are a refreshing contrast to those of other journalists (e.g. in this morning’s National Post) who continue to be so full of determination to ignore reality and instead write reams of complex obfuscation.

    Most politicians are just as determined not to grasp the nettle.

    For example, our own P.M., Justin Trudeau, has just declared that no war is being waged between us and Islam. It is, he says, merely a “fight”. The basis for this, we are being told, is that war only exists when two armies face each other.

    So even when Islam’s army consisting of millions of Muslim immigrants has infiltrated western countries and elements of that army are committing increasingly bold and murderous slaughters of our people, it does not constitute “war” because there are no actual battles between their army and ours?

  168. EC @ 15:28

    The Met’s boss uniform is unquestionably impressive, EC. Do you know what’s the origin of the roping? Is it merely for decoration or was there something of utility in the past that morphed into this heavy knit?

  169. EC @ 15:28

    Thanks for the link to that picture. It brought three things to mind –

    1. A South American General;

    2. A Christmas tree; and

    3.  The Captain of Köpenick – and especially the last line of the play/film.

  171. “…A new Hitler is in Europe. It is not Donald Trump. It is not the “right-wing.” The new Hitler is very much like the old Hitler: he hates Jews. He has contempt for the historical patrimony of Western civilization. He means to rule by an iron fist and subordinate every other power to his will. He respects only strength, and despises weakness. The new Hitler is not just one man, but millions — millions who believe in an ideology that teaches warfare against and subjugation of free people under its heel.

    Historically, Europe saw the threat that the men who held to this ideology posed, and shed blood to resist their advance. Now, the sons and heirs of those who gave their lives to make sure their children and their children’s children would live free have flung open the gates and invited in those who would enslave them. They have invited them into their countries in massive numbers, and vilified and ostracized anyone who dared note the lessons of history and the content of the invaders’ ideology….”

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/262249/war-europe-robert-spencer

  173. Radford NG
    March 24th, 2016 – 21:52

    That picture of the pair of them actually sent a chill down my spine.

  174. and who is George Soros?

    “The upper portion of this page is devoted to organizations that are funded directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI). The lower portion of the page focuses on organizations which do not receive direct funding from Soros and OSI, but which receive money from one or more groups that do get direct OSI funding.”

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

  175. a busy little bee in London also

    “The Open Society Foundation–London facilitates collaboration, builds donor partnerships, and serves as a channel for information and contacts between the Open Society Foundations and partners in the United Kingdom.”

    https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/about/offices-foundations/open-society-foundation-london

    and VERY active in Brussels as Chairman of the Open Society Institute there, where he showed up to do a little Russian bashing in 2014:

    http://usforeignpolicy.blogs.lalibre.be/archive/2014/10/25/twilight-of-the-gods-george-soros-in-brussels-1136067.html

    I wonder what else has been on his agenda for bashing, perhaps even in Brussels, these last two years.

  176. http://www.newenglishreview.org/custpage.cfm/frm/184317/sec_id/184317
    Trump Footnote
    Presidential candidate Donald Trump made several policy suggestions on the Islamism issue, one on immigration, the other on Mideast oil. On the former, he suggests a hiatus on Muslim immigration until America develops a plan or reliable programs to vet migrants. On Arab oil, he suggests, given the lives and treasure spent liberating Kuwait and Iraqi oil fields, America should have held those resources in trust and used oil revenues to finance the war against jihad, however long that takes. The problem with both Trump ideas is that they come perilously close to common sense, an American instinct in short supply these days. 

  178. “Radio host Michael Savage told his listeners on Friday that Trump’s ties to National Enquirer CEO David Pecker raises red flags as to who started rumors claiming Sen. Ted Cruz cheated on his wife, Heidi, with five women. The “Savage Nation” host said Pecker is known to fly on Trump’s jet from New York to Florida, which is why the Republican front-runner must condemn the story…”

    “He should get rid of this connection, because this is not going to help him at all. This is utter garbage and Cruz is rightly offended,” Savage said. “I’ve supported Trump and probably still will, but if he won’t disavow this guy Pecker and this story, I may withdraw my support from anyone in this campaign. … I am not going to support anyone who engages in assassination by innuendo.”

    http://www.wnd.com/2016/03/savage-threatens-to-dump-trump-over-cruz-sex-scandal/#4IkJReTQHyB8PB18.99

  180. “A man has been arrested after Asad Shah, pictured left, was set upon with a knife and had his head stamped on in a shocking attack outside his Glasgow newsagents shop last night. Locals said Mr Shah was left kneeling in his own blood at the side of the road after the thugs ran off. The appalling attack came just hours after deeply religious 40-year-old, who was keen to reach out from the Muslim community to Christian neighbours, posted heartfelt Easter messages on social media (inset). A police investigation has been launched into the full details surrounding Mr Shah’s death, with officers pursuing a line of enquiry that the attack was racially aggravated. Police Scotland confirmed that everyone currently involved in the investigation was a Muslim.”

    Daily Mail

  182. Wilders opening address in his prosecution draws attention to the politicisation of the law in Europe.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8RcDKK_2yQ

    The law suborned to serve the political agendas of government, not in their creation but in their selective enforcement and prosecution. Given the history of Europe it is an appalling erosion of justice and the politicians and public servants responsible for this state of affairs should hang their heads in shame.

    The war cemeteries across Europe are filled with the remains of young men who made the greatest sacrifice to preserve what the politicians and their servants now collectively discard. And in the interests of what? To pander to selected identity groups created by their own foolishness and in a forlorn attempt to keep the lid forced down on a great rising tide of discontent. Prosecution contrived at and conspired by campaign groups, lobbyists and a politicised public service. The nasty subterfuge of third party complaints which they are attempting to enshrine in law so that the vested interests, the agenda merchants and the secretive, unelected NGOs and fake charities can intimidate and shut down any expressions of opinion they do not care for.

    Shame on them all and their Je Suis Charlie hypocrisy.

  183. Herbert Thornton, March 25th, 2016 – 00:27

    Try running this one past your spine…

    When the Ray-Bans come off, and the mask slips… etc.

    http://snag.gy/lnHxv.jpg

    File under: eyes, soul, window, Peter Cushing, Van Helsing, shadow (5pm) etc.

  184. Colonel Mustard – 09:19

    It’s an anti free speech show trial, a kangaroo court. One of the three presiding judges (a wimmin) is on record as saying that Wilders should’ve been found guilty at his last show trial!

  185. John birch:
    March 26th, 2016 – 08:19.
    Orban and Geert Wilders are of a mind.
    Is he or is he not correct?
    Text of Geert Wilders statement to Breitbart :

    “The cause of all this bloodshed is Islam. We need to de-Islamize the West. That is the only way to safeguard our lives and protect our freedom,” Wilders said.
    Wilders said that, according to Europol, some 3,000 to 5,000 European jihadists who traveled to Syria to fight for Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL) and other terror groups, have returned to Western Europe, many of them hidden “among the hundreds of thousands of Islamic asylum seekers that entered Europe from Asia and Africa.”
    “Two of last November’s terrorists in Paris had fought in Syria. So had the terrorist who, last August, attempted to attack the high speed train between Amsterdam and Paris. So had the two terrorists who, in January 2015, massacred the editorial staff of Charlie Hebdo. So had the terrorist who, in May 2014, shot four people at the Jewish Museum in Brussels,” Wilders said.
    According to Belgian police, at least 90 jihadists have returned from the battlefields in Syria to the Molenbeek section of Brussels. European Commission insider Hermann Kelly told Breitbart Radio on March 23 that he was shocked that so many jihadists lived just miles from the political capital of the European Union.
    “This is amazing to me that these people can kill people abroad, come here, and then walk free in the center of Brussels,” Kelly said.
    “Returned Syria fighters are a huge threat,” added Wilders. “They are dangerous predators roaming our streets. It is absolutely unbelievable that our governments allow them to return. And it is incredible that, once returned, they are not imprisoned.
    “In the Netherlands, we have dozens of these returned jihadists. Our government allows most of them to freely walk our streets and refuses to lock them up. I demand that they be detained at once. Every government in the West, which refuses to do so, is a moral accessory if one of these monsters commits an atrocity.
    “The government must also close our national borders. The European Union’s Schengen zone, where no border controls are allowed, is a catastrophe. The Belgian Moroccan Salah Abdeslam, the mastermind of last November’s bloodbath in Paris, traveled freely from Belgium to the Netherlands on multiple occasions last year.
    “This is intolerable. Open borders are a huge safety risk. Our citizens are in mortal danger if we do not restore control over our own national borders.”

  187. EC March 26th, 2016 – 10:11

    And that was apparent from the expression on the sour-faced cow’s face as Wilders was speaking. One of the other judges looked like a teenager. The whole thing with the po-faced, disapproving triad of judges in their quasi-religious robes reminded of Roland Freisler.

    No doubt the blessings of such tinpot European court practice will be soon be enjoyed here.

  188. Malfleur – 02:34

    “Police Scotland confirmed that everyone currently involved in the investigation was a Muslim.”

    What, including the police officers? 🙂

  189. Charles Moore has another go trying to convince the DT readers quitting is the way forward, not a bad argument based largely on security considerations. The last para though let’s him down.

    This is what he says: “But it (the inability of the EU to respond to external threats) puts the EU at the mercy of President Erdogan of Turkey as he decides whom to send our way, of Putin as he toys with us in the ME and Ukraine, of Assad of Syria as he wonders whom to kill or expel next, and of ISIL as they try to create a pan-European insurrection against the infidel”.

    Leaving aside whether it was Assad who used sarin, sends refugees to us, Putin’s toying with us rather than doing what we said we had been doing for almost two years before the Russians joined in, genuinely hit the ISIL thugs, well, leaving all this aside, nothing of it would have happened if the deluded Americans didn’t de-stabilize the ME in the first instance, Erdogan wouldn’t be sending jihadi thugs to us (and getting paid for it), Putin wouldn’t be in Syria, Assad would be fighting ISIL, al-Nusra, and ISIL would not exist, or if they (the Americans) did the job properly in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya … the way Britain used to do when she policed the world.

    What is it that even someone whose brain seems OK on other issues, gets it so wrong? What will it take for people like him to figure the Americans today don’t give a dry shite about us, shipping back the bust of Winston was a powerful hint, and yet virtually all of our opinion formers are blind to it.

  190. RobertRetyred @ 13:09

    It would be revealing to compare the sentence of the orthodox Islamic thug who knifed him with that of the PR loony who twitted something, got accused of ‘inciting racial hatred’, charged, is facing a magistrate today.

    We have truly lost common sense.

  191. Not on the same wavelength as before, but just for the record, three short pieces of news from the East.

    Ukraine is planning to build a wall on its border with Russia, some 1,500 miles long, in parts it will be a ditch two meters deep, four meters wide, the cost estimated at some $200mn. Latvia and Estonia (high ratio of Russian passport holders) are thinking doing the same, Lithuania doesn’t want any, looks forward to establishing friendlier relations with its big neighbour, Finland and Norway have no such plans either, the former just concluded a deal with Russia that effectively stops the flow of ME immigrants into Finland from Russia at a stroke.

    A massive military exercise (Cold Response) has just wrapped up in Norway, the land, maritime and air assets from 12 NATO nations plus two guest states took part.

    In Kiev, a new PM may be installed soon, the choice of FTEU Nuland has been an abysmal failure.

  192. Baron – 14:22

    We?

    I don’t think you and I have! 🙂

    Nor the other posters here, with dishonorable exceptions.

  193. Emulous @ 10:42

    It is a vicious circle, Emulous, the more they hit us, the more of the voices similar to his, the more of the opposition to their presence here, the more they feel pissed off, hit us, and so it goes. It needs someone or something to cut it, or it will spiral out of control.

  194. RobertRetyred @ 15:39

    The poorly educated Slav stands corrected, Robert, by “we’ he meant those the country elevated to represent us, as you well know, and the smiling round face hints at.

    Still, here’s a shot at the future: If Donald wins the candidacy, then again in November, the whole game will change noticeably, and almost overnight. If he doesn’t make it, one can only think of how to avoid being hit when the unhappiness boils over.

  197. Helpful information that you may need to note:

    European Union Directive No. 456179

    In order to bring about further integration with the single European currency, the Euro, all citizens of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland must be made aware that the phrase “Spending a Penny” is not to be used after 31 May 2016.

    From this date onwards, the correct term will be: “Euronating”.

    It is hoped that this will be a great relief to everyone. If you have any questions, just give EUhelpline a tinkle.

  198. Paddy McCoy, an elderly Irish farmer, received a letter from the Department for Work & Pensions stating that they suspected he was not paying his employees the statutory minimum wage and they would send an inspector to interview them.

    O n the appointed day, the inspector turned up.

    “Tell me about your staff,” he asked Paddy.

    “Well,” said Paddy, “there’s the farm hand, I pay him £240 a week, and he has a free cottage.

    Then there’s the housekeeper. She gets £190 a week, along with free board and lodging.

    There’s also the half-wit. He works a 16 hour day, does 90% of the work, earns about £25 a week along with a bottle of whisky and, as a special treat, occasionally gets to sleep with my wife.”

    “That’s disgraceful” said the inspector, “I need to interview the half-wit.”

    “That’ll be me then,” said Paddy.

  200. What think we all of the Matthew Doyle fiasco?

    “Police have dropped a race-hate charge against a man who allegedly tweeted about confronting a Muslim woman over the Brussels terror attacks.
    Matthew Doyle, 46, of south Croydon, was charged on Friday morning under Section 19 of the Public Order Act.
    Following discussions with the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS), the Met said he was “no longer charged” and will not be appearing in court.
    It said police may not make charging decisions over section 19 of the Act.
    A Met Police spokesman said it was for the CPS, and not the police, to make the decision to charge, and it was withdrawn.
    The incident is still under investigation and Mr Doyle has been released while police consult the CPS.
    Guidance on the CPS website about racist and religious crime states that a charge under the act “can only be prosecuted with consent of Attorney General” and requires a referral to the Counter Terrorism Division to “be dealt with by specialist prosecutor”.
    The offence carries a maximum jail term of seven years.
    Mr Doyle, who was arrested on Wednesday, had been charged with publishing or distributing threatening, abusive or insulting material, likely or intended to stir up racial hatred.
    It followed the posting of a message on his Twitter profile about confronting a Muslim woman in south London over the Brussels attacks, which was widely shared on social media and spawned a wave of parodies.
    The Met said further consultation with the CPS would take place.”

  201. I studiously posted the above without comment.
    Well what are the concerns here?
    Just what kind of person would complain to the police about Doyle?
    What kind of public official said yesterday that he was to be arraigned in front of the beak this morning?
    In asking these questions am I at risk of the beak?
    Is this blog at risk from the DRO or similar?
    (If this blog is moderated please feel free to delete these 2 posts)

  202. Baron – 15:49

    No need to correct! 🙂 There are times when I wonder whether the population will notice, even as civilisation is crumbling around them.

    If Trump doesn’t get the candidacy, I expect there will be what Macmillan called events will happen.

    It’s been a long time a’comin’. I can’t believe how events are panning out for all to see. I wonder if CMD is enjoying his holiday.

  203. Baron – 15:49

    No need to correct! 🙂 There are times when I wonder whether the population will notice, even as civilisation is crumbling around them.

    If Trump doesn’t get the candidacy, I expect there will be what Macmillan called events will happen.

    It’s been a long time a’comin’. I can’t believe how events are panning out for all to see. I wonder if CMD is enjoying his holiday.

  204. Noa @ 17:47

    You certainly know how to tell’em, Noa, it’s a goodie. And the one above it isn’t bad either.

  205. Noa @ 17:47

    You certainly know how to tell’em, Noa, it’s a goodie. And the one above it isn’t bad either.

  206. Emulous @ 18:10

    Listen, Emulous, this is a self-censoring blog, we all keep an eye on each other, if anyone oversteps it, we dial a number, complain, have the offending culprit removed, possibly charged.

    But worry not, you’re still OK. Just.

    Why has nobody cared toto correct the barbarian’s posting at 14.22, it must have been out by the time he posted the sensible people at CPS told the Met to go take a running jump.

    Still, it was only after the barbarian has found out tht he bothered seriously to learn about the case, the PR man, a public school boy, seems a half-wit, what did he expect a tented woman to say, she’s very likely as informed as the rest of the unwashed who care about British politics as Baron cares about the Roman papacy. Mistake that, as Robert points out at 18.52, twice to emphasise it, but that’s how it goes.

    The reaction of the Met was even more ridiculous, if the tweet were to be adjudged an incitement to racial hatred, then most of what (say) Bretibart published is a pure distillation of it. It tells you something though, that the home bred Quislings are worse than the the ones the tweet was targeting.

  207. A friend has sent Baron an extract of a memorandum allegedly concerning the US Army’s most recent lactation and breastfeeding policies, signed by the new Secretary of the Army, Eric K. Fanning and dated November 10, 2015. The barbarian says allegedly because he has no way of confirming if it’s true or fake, you judge for yourselves:

    “Commanders are responsible for notifying all soldiers of this breastfeeding and lactation support policy during initial pregnancy counselling.

    Soldiers who want to breast feed upon return to duty will notify their chain of command as soon as possible. This notification allows commanders to determine how to best support the soldier and ensure a workplace with appropriate space for expressing milk.

    Commanders will designate a private space, other than a restroom, with locking capabilities for a soldier to breast feed or express milk. This space must include a place to sit, a flat surface (other than the floor) to place the pump on, an electrical outlet, and access to a safe water source within reasonable distance from the lactation space …..”

    If that’s true, one can immediately spot a big omission. What about the time and space for what must precede the breastfeeding? The act of copulation, pregnancy, birth?

    Back to the drawing board, Fanning.

  208. Baron @ 19:19

    “…we all keep an eye on each other, if anyone oversteps it, we dial a number, complain…”

    Quite right. So, for instance, Frank P has not been heard from since March 23.

  210. “On Friday, we learn that Abdullah met with US lawmakers in secret during the week of January 11 and disclosed that British SAS forces as well as Jordanian soldiers had been on the ground fighting ISIS in Libya since at least the beginning of the year. “Jordanian slang is similar to Libyan slang,” Abdullah said, explaining how his men have been able to assist the British in cleaning up the mess NATO made in Libya which, you’re reminded, became a lawless wasteland in the wake of the uprising that toppled Muammar Gaddafi in 2011.

    But the revelation that British SpecOps were fighting in Libya wasn’t the most interesting thing to emerge from the meeting…”

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-26/bombshell-king-jordan-blames-turkey-terror-europe-says-israel-looks-other-way-al-qae

  211. EC
    March 26th, 2016 – 10:07

    I followed your link to TWWOTW and as an experiment Photoshopped a pair of Ray Bans to cover the eyes. That made it a bit less spine chilling.

    I’m now considering doing the opposite – i.e. no Ray Bans but a Burka showing only the eyes. Maybe that will make it even more spine chilling?

  212. Today we listen to Clarence Hall

    “The resurrection of Jesus changes the face of death for all His people. Death is no longer a prison, but a passage into God’s presence. Easter says you can put truth in a grave, but it won’t stay there”

    Happy Easter

  216. Ostrich (occasionally) 11:03

    “…Extremists and moderates clashed in Ireland’s own civil war; the country was partitioned; the mood led to Protestants being driven almost out of the Free State, and Catholics being treated as second-class citizens in Ulster. Loathing of Britain, fostered before independence by the Black and Tans, reached the point in 1945 where de Valera could sign a book of condolence on Hitler’s death and still not outrage his followers…”

    Perhaps Mr Heffer has a point Ostrich.
    The Easter Rising provided a poisonous inheritance, the effects of which we continue to suffer daily.
    My own family experienced precisely what he describes there, left Ireland in the 1930’s because of it, even continue to be affected by it today.
    Was the solution to the Rising to shoot the ringleaders? It seemed correct at the time, but perhaps the break-up of the United Kingdom, and indeed the Empire, might have been delayed, not even occurred, if a different approach had been adopted.

  217. A clue to what Peter Sutherland’s view might be is given in his quotation in the Irish Times last year:

    “Sutherland says that as Irish people, “we should seek a society and identity defined by its values, not by its sense of nationality. We have had enough tribalism on this island.” His ultimate goal is simple but uplifting: “How to live well, together.” ”

    “Values” and a “sense of nationality” are apparently mutually exclusive in the new world order mind.

  219. @Noa – 12:55

    The Irish home rule acct had been passed in 1914 but, given the likelihood of violence during its implementation, it was agreed with the Irish MPs that it be delayed until we got the European war sorted out (remember, it was all going to be over by Christmas.) So, when the rebellion started in 1916 it was only natural for the British government to look on it as a ‘stab in the back’.

    Was the solution to the Rising to shoot the ringleaders?

    Well, given that, on the western front, soldiers were being executed for “cowardice”, and the authorities were stuck with a form of ‘tunnel vision’ they could have done no less.

    The “Hefferlump’s” incomplete view of the events of the time has led him to a one-sided suggestion.

  220. Ostrich (occasionally)- 14:06

    A hundred years is enough time to have passed and sincere attempts to resolve the differences between England and Ireland are required, both countries have greater common problems to address.

    And don’t mistake me for a supporter of Republican nationalism.
    The likes of McGuiness and Adams, unjustly rewarded under a craven settlement, are and remain criminals who should have been prosecuted under the Common law.

  223. John Birch (16:37)

    I agree, with one reservation, but an important one. Blair opens by saying, We are at war with Islamist extremism.
    That’s an unnecessary qualifier. We are at war with Islam. Period. And ‘we’ have been since their prophet and leader declared war on the ‘infidels’ a millennium ad a half ago.

    The armed attacks are a distraction to obfuscate the fact that ‘our’ leaders are inviting the enemy into our midst through virtually open borders and appointing them as key advisors to government on both sides of the Atlantic. Trump is the only one prepared to voice that obvious fact and for that reason alone he will be stopped at any price.

    The UK’s treacherous political set-
    up is now beyond redemption. Chose Tweedledum or Tweedledee.

    Or take to the streets and oust them all.

    It is a no-brainer. Brussels is kicking off at this very moment!

    Oh to be young again at this moment: the onset of Spring 2016.

  224. Frank P 16.37

    “The political and media elites have failed Europe and the free world, and put Europe on a course toward civil war and bloodshed unseen on the continent since the days of Hitler.”

    It is time to sweep them out. All of them: the multiculturalists, the cultural relativists, the internationalists, the levellers, the elites who have brought this death and destruction upon Brussels today, and Paris yesterday, and the rest of Europe tomorrow.

    Europe, if it is to survive as a home of free people, must turn out its entire political and media establishment.”

    Amen to that.

    It’s amazing really that we Europens, Conservatives by conviction, now find ourselves in the position of supporting the wholesale replacement, indeed overthrow, of our present governments before they destroy our civilisation.

  225. “Oh to be young again at this moment: the onset of Spring 2016.”

    The Europe Spring?

  226. Malfleur @ 22:52

    He’s done it before, that’s what gurus do, retire, meditate, come back, share their revelations with the flock, Malfleur.

  227. telemachus @ 08:52

    Your truth from the grave, ‘mate’.

    One Safraz Ahmed brought his Pakistani bride Sumara Iram to Britain, forced her to act as a skivvy for his family from 5AM until midnight, beat hear and made her to wash in the garden. She had no money, her mobile phone was confiscated, and she was allowed to leave their home in Charlton, southeast London only to carry heavy shopping bags or take her nephew to school round the corner.

    Family members were fully aware of how she was treated, her mother in law was standing by when her son beat Sumara, never did anything. Ahmed was arrested when neighbours saw her barefoot and bleeding, but escaped prosecution because she ‘refused to lodge complaint’. Six months later, she took an overdose, Ahmed got arrested again, has faced a judge, will be sentenced at Woolwich Court on Friday.

    The Met was keen to arrest a moronic PR man. charge him swiftly with ‘excitement to violence’, somehow overlooked the real violence inflicted on this innocent woman. It seems the PC wankers that are charged to keep Britain safe, free of crime have their priorities ‘right’. The woman who runs it should be sacked, the whole of the family kicked out, and as Donald says ‘we should keep the ROP worshippers out until we sort the ones we figure what’s going on’.

    Source: today’s ST, page 4.

  228. John birch @ 15:04

    The ghastly Blair could have made a difference when he was in charge, John, did the opposite by opening up our borders, helping to invade the wrong country (and fugged the invasion), ar$eklicked the Saudis (still does) who are the prime fund providers for the thugs.

  229. Frank P @ 16:37

    Could anyone improve on Feldman?, the couple of sentences from the piece should be forever cast in stone:

    “To defeat Islamic terror is to stoically bear its hurts. To get up with your own leg blown away, and hop to the finish line like it happened every day.”

    Btw, ignore Baron’s posting at 17.32, he didn’t see it yours before he clicked on the ‘comment’ button.

  230. On being economical with the actualite.

    Reports about the shop-keeper murdered in Glasgow mainly talk of a muslim killed by another muslim.
    This is not quite true.The victim was an Ahmadi–a group regarded by some muslims as heretics—so by 99.6895% of muslims.

    The Ahmadis were founded in the Punjab in the 19th century ; under British protection.The founder declared himself to be the new prophet ; which would not have gone down well with Sons of The Prophet.

    Ahmadis are have been declared non-muslims in Pakistan.They have reportedly moved their H.Q to London ; where there are protected to a degree by the British.

    There are calls from the deluded for a reformed Islam. Ahmadis have already gone about as far as it can go.

    Daily Mail (with comments)
    http://dailym.ai/1Sl3o2R

    Daily Mail (without comments-after a arrest made)
    http://dailym.ai/1RCPplP

  231. Noa
    March 27th, 2016 – 17:17

    “It is time to sweep them out. All of them: the multiculturalists, the cultural relativists, the internationalists, the levellers, the elites who have brought this death and destruction upon Brussels today, and Paris yesterday, and the rest of Europe tomorrow”

    Noa
    Just before I read your post I had been reading yesterday’s DT leader page and scanned my eyes across from the Hard Cheese leader (The cyclops did not just eat humans…)
    To a little known commentator Douglas Murray who surprisingly had a view on your very topic

    “How many more excuses are we going to make before we face the facts? How many more fifth-rate, sixth-form debates will we have to sit through? Why, whenever any act of Islamist terror is carried out on Western society do we race to ask all the wrong questions, all based on the central fallacy that this is somehow our own fault? We wring our hands and make excuses. And then we blame ourselves. “What did we do to make this happen?” we ask, time after time.”

    And telemachus thought to himself, Yes I must share this with Noa whose reaction is not
    “Blame these evil terrorists”
    But
    “Blame those of my kith and kin whose philosophy deviates from right wing orthodoxy”
    *
    I give that I may be wrong

  233. Tetley

    ‘I give that I may be wrong’

    You always are, like most middle class socialists and a hyprocrite and liar to boot.

  234. Baron
    March 27th, 2016 – 17:52

    I guess the aforesaid little known poster must have been part of the conspiracy including Hannah Summers who penned your quoted hate post and the tweeter who escaped his lawful fate yesterday
    *

    “Unfortunately, there are always people on hand eager to feed our self-absorption and ignorance. “It is your foreign policy,” they say. Perhaps after Brussels people might question this response a little more searchingly. Aside from Bhutan, Belgium probably has the least interventionist foreign policy of any country in the world.

    “It all tracks back to this infuriating idea that we have not done enough to “integrate” people. But immigrant groups nearly always want to stick together, and Muslims want to stick together more than most.”

    Other apologists answer that terrorists are moved to blow up trains and gun down people in cafes because they feel disenfranchised and ostracised, with few employment opportunities. This is particularly strange when you consider that there is record unemployment in Southern Europe right now and none of our cities has yet been visited by a jobless Catholic Italian modelling a suicide vest. It is about poverty, excuse-seekers say. Yet nobody from the most deprived estates of Glasgow has yet carried this idea to its illogical conclusion.

    Indeed, people like to think that deprivation and radicalisation go hand in hand; they claim that the areas these young men are forced to live in aren’t nice enough and it makes them feel marginalised. Molenbeek in Belgium lacked “gentrification”, apparently, and this was a causal factor. If only we could only find them somewhere nice to live, they would find it easier to integrate.
    What nonsense. Earlier this month I was in Holland, visiting their predominantly Muslim ghettos, including the one where Mohamed Bouyeri was living when he assassinated the filmmaker Theo van Gogh in 2004 for making a film which criticised Islam. This mini-Morocco was not Mayfair, but it was a lot nicer than most estates in Britain. We really have gone mad if we’re blaming the mass-murder of fellow citizens on inadequate social housing.

    It all tracks back to this infuriating idea that we have not done enough to “integrate” people. But immigrant groups nearly always want to stick together. Some Muslims in Britain want to live in entirely parallel societies with their own system of laws and customs. “Perhaps they don’t want to live with us because we’re racist” is the final fail-safe of the self-abuser. In fact, it is more commonly the other way around.

    The real answer to why it’s happening is right under our noses. Consider Nicola Sturgeon. After November’s terror attacks in Paris, Scotland’s First Minister led the now traditional sympathy delegation to the local mosque. Given that politicians like Ms Sturgeon insist that Islamist terror has nothing to do with Islam, isn’t it strange that their first port of call after any Islamist attack is always the local mosque? At Scotland’s biggest mosque – Glasgow Central – Sturgeon gave the traditional speech condemning “bigotry and prejudice”, by which she meant “Islamophobia”.

    Yesterday, the Imam of that mosque was in the news. Why? Had he been the victim, post-Brussels, of an “Islamophobic attack” by Scottish racists? No – Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman had been caught praising an Islamist terrorist, specifically Mumtaz Qadri, who last month was hanged in Pakistan for murdering Salman Taseer – a governor who opposed blasphemy laws. In a set of messages on social media the Glasgow Imam said, among other things: “I cannot hide my pain today. A true Muslim was punished for doing which [sic] the collective will of the nation failed to carry out.” The mosque has said that its Imam’s praise for the assassins of secularists was “taken out of context”.

    Did Ms Sturgeon know the radical politics of the Imam of the mosque she went grandstanding to? Of course not. Like most of our politicians and media, she lacks the knowledge to know what questions to ask and – more unforgivably – it appears she doesn’t actually want to know. Because if she and others did ask the right questions, then they might get answers they wouldn’t like. ”

    *

    The article penned as usual by Dougy’s hate pen does finish up correctly

    “The problem of Islamic extremism is caused – astonishingly enough – by Islamic extremism.”

    The Young Gatestone Agitprop however does not tell us how to combat Islamic extremism
    Which is of course as eloquently argued by myself The Spectator to embrace and integrate our Muslim Communities
    Even you said
    “The lasting solution to the boil goes deeper than stricter border controls, increased security, re-education, Birtles”
    *
    So let us not inflame Murray style

  236. Noa
    Balance please
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/omar-alnatour/muslims-are-not-terrorist_b_8718000.html
    *
    Every time an act of terror or shooting occurs, Muslims closely watch the news with extreme trepidation praying that the suspect is not Muslim. This is not because these terrorists are likely to be Muslim but rather because in the instances where they happen to be, we see amplified mass media coverage and extreme unjustified hatred towards Muslims.

    As a Muslim, I am tired of condemning terrorist attacks being carried out by inherently violent people who hijack my religion. I am tired of condemning these attacks to people who are calm and apathetic when Muslims are killed by these same radicalized terrorists.

    I am tired of hearing the word “terrorist” not being used when the suspect in a terrorist attack is a non-Muslim. I am tired of the “mentally disabled” excuse being recycled when the suspect in a terrorist attack is a Caucasian. I am tired of seeing hundreds of terrorist attacks carried out by non-Muslims not get the same coverage of even a single terrorist attack where the suspect happens to be Muslim.

    Above it all, I am tired of having to repeatedly say that Muslims are not terrorists. It is time we silence this Islamophobia with facts. My next five points will prove once and for all that Muslims are not terrorists:

    1. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in the United States: According to the FBI, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States from 1980 to 2005 have been by non-Muslims. This means that an American terrorist suspect is over nine times more likely to be a non-Muslim than a Muslim. According to this same report, there were more Jewish acts of terrorism in the United States than Islamic, yet when was the last time we heard about the threat of Jewish terrorism in the media? For the same exact reasons that we cannot blame the entire religion of Judaism or Christianity for the violent actions of those carrying out crimes under the names of these religions, we have absolutely no justifiable grounds to blame Muslims for terrorism.

    2. Non-Muslims make up the majority of terrorists in Europe: There have been over one thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the past five years. Take a guess at what percent of those terrorists were Muslim. Wrong, now guess again. It’s less than 2%.
    *

    Less than 2%

  238. ‘Balance please,’ Tetley?

    As an apologist for mass murder so you are become a murderous apologist.

    Add Lahore to the ROP scorecard below.

    in your case,without doubt, except i regards to your professed Christianity;
    ‘the mind is its own place, and in itself can make a heav’n of hell, a hell of heav’n.’

  240. And of Tetley’s numerous crapulous posts let Milton summarise them:

    “only in destroying I find ease to my restless thoughts.”

  246. Time to practice your hypocrisy by turning your other cheek towards the RoP too, Tetley.

    That way, you can face your friends in the correct position for their embrace.

  248. I see the troll has been doing his bit to incite religious sectarianism by posting links to a couple of articles that demonstrate the most astonishingly cretinous whataboutery and in extreme bad taste given what has just happened in Pakistan on today of all days.

  249. There has been much media talk today of the Easter Rising against “the might of the British Empire” and “overwhelming force”, etc., seemingly ignoring the fact that Britain and her Empire were engaged in World War at the time. 1916 was also the year of the Somme battle.

    Whilst it is true that Britain immediately sent reinforcements into Ireland to help quell the rebellion, the garrison in Ireland at the time of the uprising neither reflected “the might of the British Empire” nor “overwhelming force” and the Dublin garrison was relatively small, one of the reasons the insurgents believed they might succeed.

    The majority of troops stationed in Ireland were either reserve or extra reserve troops. (R) = Reserve, (ER) = Extra Reserve.

    3rd Cavalry Brigade (R)
    5th Battalion (Prince of Wales) The Leinster Regiment (ER)
    5th Battalion The Royal Dublin Fusiliers (ER)
    8th Cavalry Brigade (R) made up of the 16th/17th Lancers, King Edward’s Horse and Dorset/Oxfordshire Yeomanry.
    9th Cavalry Regiment (R) made up of 3rd/7th Hussars and 2nd/3rd County of London Yeomanry.
    25th Infantry Brigade (R) (Not a full Brigade)
    10 Cavalry Regiment (R) made up of 4th/8th Hussars, Lancashire Hussars, Duke of Lancaster’s/Westmoreland/Cumberland Yeomanry.

    Dublin Garrison
    Royal Barracks (now Collins Barracks). 10th Service Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers
    Richmond Barracks 3rd Reserve Battalion Royal Irish Regiment.
    Marlborough Barracks, Phoenix Park, 6th Reserve Cavalry Regiment ex-3rd Reserve Cavalry Brigade made up of 5th/12th Lancers, City of London/1st County of London Yeomanry.
    Portobello Barracks 3rd Reserve battalion Royal Irish Rifles

    Athlone
    5TH Reserve Artillery Brigade with only 4 artillery pieces operational.

    Belfast
    15th Reserve Infantry Brigade comprising 1000 men, all ranks.

    Templemore
    4th (ER) Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers ex-25th Reserve Infantry Brigade.

  250. Baron
    March 27th, 2016 – 18:05

    For some reason I misread “Baron” as “Bacon”. I must have over-celebrated the Easter Rising (both that of the Christ and the 1916 one) yesterday!

    Sir, please do not apologise for your misprints being due to your being a “poorly educated Slav” when you have a fan of your postings who had previously thought of himself as a well educated Irishman who now realises that he is seeing misprints where none exist.

  251. Ten people were arrested in Brussels yesterday.
    I read this headline with joy, until I got further into the article and saw that the arrests were not of the airport or metro bombers and associates.
    They were of honest Belgians calling for a halt to terrorism. Has the world come to this?

  252. On Easter Sunday let us consider and expose the professed Anglican and Christian, Tetley’s disgusting ‘equivalence’ between Christianity and islam, for the lie it is:

    “…according to the International Society for Human Rights, a secular observatory based in Frankfurt, Germany, 80 per cent of all acts of religious discrimination in the world today are directed at Christians. Statistically speaking, that makes Christians by far the most persecuted religious body on the planet.

    According to the Pew Forum, between 2006 and 2010 Christians faced some form of discrimination, either de jure or de facto, in a staggering total of 139 nations, which is almost three-quarters of all the countries on earth. According to the Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in Massachusetts, an average of 100,000 Christians have been killed in what the centre calls a ‘situation of witness’ each year for the past decade. That works out to 11 Christians killed somewhere in the world every hour, seven days a week and 365 days a year, for reasons related to their faith.”

    Embrace that, murder apologist.

  254. pfm

    There is an article in/on the front page of the digital Specie on Christians being killed all over the world. Not a single word about the Copts. I tried to write something but simply could not sign in to discus and for some reason never have been able to. I do subscribe to the Spec so that annoyed me. Please will you write something?

  255. Declan @ 04:56

    Point taken, Declan, and thanks. The ‘poorly educated Slav’ is but a moniker, one of several Baron has used, convenient when he errs, which is often, others jump on him for it allows him to say ‘but who would expect better from a poorly educated Slav’, cunning this.

  256. Emulous – 11:04
    “Has the world come to this?”

    It has taken at least 70 years but, yes, it has. Some thirty years ago I was told, by someone from the area, that Belgium was an area of complete dysfunctionality and was evil with it. The immigrants have been pushing at an open door.

  259. Noa @ 11:52

    Good one, Noa, the barbarian couldn’t resist it, chipped in his halfpenny, too.

    No exception to it, at any time a Catholic priest abuses a child, the guilt pins firmly not just on him, a free agent albeit of a certain creed, but on the institution of the Church, too, the victim never says the paedophile shouted ‘in the name of Jesus’ before the abuse began, the peado never asks the child if he can recite a passage from the Good Book, lets him off if he can, none of it ever happens yet everyone knows it’s the Church that’s to blame, the hierarchy gets condemned, the culpability of the order is unquestionable, firm and painful retribution (mostly financial) is demanded.

    The Islamic jihadists never fail to shout ‘allahu akbar’ before detonating the waist bombs or pulling the trigger of an AK-47, if they take hostages they seldom fail to ask them if they can recite from the Koran, let off those who can, gun down the infidels, often leave wills stressing the killing is in the name of Allah.

    Every common sense man and woman knows these acts of abhorrent barbarity fester in and derive from the creed, everyone but those who govern us, for them ‘there’s nothing to see there, no link to the creed, it’s just a case of perverse thuggery’.

    Why?

    The West is run from the White House, and the man who occupies it is an honorary Muslim. Nobody (in the West anyway) will come to the aid of Christians unless Donald gets in.

  262. RobertRetyred 1334
    The world may have come to a sorry pass.
    But we can do something.
    We can get out of the EU and shut our borders.
    Why on earth the media are not screaming this beats me.

  263. Re (17:38):

    No half measures there then! (I just finished reading it for the second time – and marked it up ‘ATD’. That means ‘action this day’ – not ‘ask The Donald’).

    ☺☺

  264. Nigel Jones draws a parallel between the Easter Rising and the Brussels attacks

    ” Just as official Brussels turned a blind eye to the entry of trained and dedicated terrorists through their wide open borders, so the British officials ruling Ireland permitted the training and military drilling of the rebels for fear of offending Irish national sensibilities. The arrest and internment of a dozen of the rising’s leaders before Easter week would have prevented the Rising, and the blood-dimmed course of Irish history would almost certainly have taken a different and more peaceful turn, saving thousands of lives.
    Lesson number two is the ease with which a radical minority can manipulate and hijack a moderate majority. The secret society of the Irish Republican Brotherhood which covertly masterminded the Easter revolt was a minority within a minority of extremist Irish republicans, dedicated with almost fascist zeal to the shedding of blood for its own sake. In the chilling words of one of them, Padraig Pearse, the “earth’s old heart needs to be watered with the red wine of the battlefield”.
    http://anonymouse.org/cgi-bin/anon-www.cgi/http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/12205694/The-Easter-Rising-bears-harsh-lessons-for-todays-fight-against-extremism.html

  265. Emulous – 17:58

    There are quite a few writers laying out the evidence, but I think many are past reading media agenda: events are taking over. We don’t even have the ‘official’ Brexit group named yet.

  266. Frank P 17:38

    Are you really comfortable with the idea of innumerable pre-emptive strikes Frank?

    I can’t saw I’m in favour, even though Capt’n Ahab Dan is broadly correct in his analysis of the problem his solution is, as yet, too harsh to stomach.
    The West, for better or worse, is reactive: proactive, pre-emptive strikes will not be launched by the democracies, until almost, perhaps even, too late to save them.
    After all, if we are then a majority muslim population that would be….. undemocratic.

    We may need to take it down from the shelf and dust it off if Iran gets her nukes in the air. If we still have any shelves.

    The West is reactive Frank. Nor do I

  267. Leaving aside many a consideration of law, morality, our own well-being, just two things make Daniel’s idea undoable.

    First, and he says it himself, is the absence of the will (to do what he erroneously believes would cut it). If the will existed the boil would not be with us for history tells you that when the will did exist those who follow Allah behaved – see Baron’s earlier argument about what brought about the problem (our embracing Sontag’s ‘the white race …’, and out insatiable demand for oil).

    Second, even if the will did exist his project would fail for one cannot nuke an idea, and Islam is an idea, rather a bundle of ideas, a school of thought, an ideological doctrine totally alien to any modern western ideas of how a society should run itself for sure, but an idea nevertheless, and unless he were to suggest how one could extinguish man’s thinking his offer is on par with teaching pigs to fly.

    The solution is simpler and doesn’t require any nuking at all. We starve them of money by switching to other suppliers of oil, developing other energy resources (shale, nuclear), and we get rid of the derivatives of Sontag’s philosophical blunder i.e. PC, multy culty, moral equivalence and other stuff like that. Much simpler, and much less barbarous.

  268. This is a request Baron regrets making.

    Some weeks ago, he posted a link of telephone call to a US radio station where a woman on benefits was telling the moderators why she didn’t want to have a job, was quite happy on welfare. Could anyone please locate the link and re-post it.

    Many thanks

  269. BARON 2056

    Was it this from the Humphrys article?

    “Back in my old street I talked to Pat Dale, a single mother of seven children. She was most indignant about the ‘people who’ve never worked in their life… they don’t even know what a job is’.

    So when did she last work? Twenty years ago. The older children don’t have jobs either. The problem, she says, is that the jobs on offer don’t pay enough. ‘If I worked for the minimum wage I’d get paid £5.50 right? That means I’d lose out on my rent benefits and I’d be working for nothing. I think it’s disgusting. Honestly it is really, really disgusting.’

    Her figures were slightly inaccurate – the national minimum wage is now £6.08 an hour – but she’s right about losing some of her benefits, depending on how many hours she worked. And that’s the problem. I came across it again and again as I travelled around the country……”

    This was 2013

  270. telemachus @ 21:19

    No, telemachus, it isn’t it, thanks for trying, look no more, (the barbarian has located the e-mail containing the link (see below).

    This brings up something else, what to do with close to 5 dozens of e-mails each day, how to categorise, file them. Do you, any of you, have any easy system of saving stuff you want to keep? A couple of dozen folders the barbarian has doesn’t seem to be enough. Is there another possibility?

    http://safeshare.tv/w/csrqsTAmSx

  271. Noa (19:56)

    I’m not sure how many years you’ve clocked up, Noa, but it must be less than me or you wouldn’t still be in harness for a crust.

    The Gathering Storm had just begun rumbling when I was born. My earliest memories were of the anxiety of my parents and their friends who presaged that the world was again about to be consumed by war. My father joined the previous show in the RN in it’s last year and was relieved to have escaped alive, given the carnage involved.

    I was an infant school pupil when WWII started. My childhood and education was ruined by its imposition on my family life and it was the same for millions like me all over the world.

    It only lasted for 5 years, unlike this current stage of islamic jihad which kicked off again, in earnest about – what? Twenty years ago.

    The damage that has been done to our civilisation in that twenty years, as successive craven clowns have mishandled the West’s role in geopolitics is beyond belief.

    We are losing a civilizational war and the enemy is being aided and abetted by the traitors who ‘lead us’.

    I remember the news of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I also remember the relief that engulfed my family and the wider population, when those two blows were struck against the enemy. There was little or no concern for the ‘innocent’ Japanese, just as there had been no sympathy for the ‘innocent’ Germans when their country was flattened and razed.

    We have now put up with the Islamic advance for two decades. There are no innocent Muslims; they have all been poisoned with murderous ideology espoused in their monstrous ‘holy book’. For those of them who want to live, a strong signal has to be sent. It seems that only a Hiroshama/Nagasaki type signal will prove that we are determined to bring the jihad to an end – by all means necessary.

    That’s why I consider Daniel’;s proposition both logical and viable.

    Do I believe that anyone with the necessary cojones to carry out such a plan will ever manage to (a) get elected and (b) having achieved power persuade a necessary consensus to press the button? You and I both know it’s dewdrop’s chance in Hades.

    I doubt that I will see the upshot – Dhimmitude. But you might and your children certainly will. We are well on the way.

  272. I’m not sure how many years you’ve clocked up, Noa, but it must be less than me or you wouldn’t still be in harness for a crust.

    The Gathering Storm had just begun rumbling when I was born. My earliest memories were of the anxiety of my parents and their friends who presaged that the world was again about to be consumed by war. My father joined the previous show in the RN in it’s last year and was relieved to have escaped alive, given the carnage involved.
    I was an infant school pupil when WWII started. My childhood and education was ruined by its imposition on my family life and it was the same for millions like me all over the world.
    It only lasted for 5 years, unlike this current stage of islamic jihad which kicked off again, in earnest about – what? Twenty years ago.
    The damage that has been done to our civilisation in that twenty years, as successive craven clowns have mishandled the West’s role in geopolitics is beyond belief.
    We are losing a civilizational war and the enemy is being aided and abetted by the traitors who ‘lead us’.
    I remember the news of both Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I also remember the relief that engulfed my family and the wider population, when those two blows were struck against the enemy. There was little or no concern for the ‘innocent’ Japanese, just as there had been no sympathy for the ‘innocent’ Germans when their country was flattened and razed.

    We have now put up with the Islamic advance for two decades. There are no innocent Muslims; they have all been poisoned with murderous ideology espoused in their monstrous ‘holy book’. For those of them who want to live, a strong signal has to be sent. It seems that only a Hiroshama/Nagasaki type signal will prove that we are determined to bring the jihad to an end – by all means necessary.

    That’s why I consider Daniel’;s proposition both logical and viable.
    Do I believe that anyone with the necessary cojones to carry out such a plan will ever manage to (a) get elected and (b) having achieved power persuade a necessary consensus to press the button? You and I both know it’s dewdrop’s chance in Hades.
    I doubt that I will see the upshot – Dhimmitude. But you might and your children certainly will. We are well on the way.

  275. John birch
    March 29th, 2016 – 07:02

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2016/03/islamic-terrorism-is-over-if-you-want-it.html
    *

    Interested in this paragraph

    *

    “By 2030, Europe will be a police state fighting terrorism by eliminating privacy, deploying soldiers in every city and criminalizing dissent. The EU police state will be able to access the contents of any mobile device at a click. Even speech that is still permitted today will lead to prison sentences at worst or at best, mandatory reeducation at special centers organized to combat extremism”

    *

    As if we are not already there

  277. Malfleur
    March 29th, 2016 – 14:10

    “During the 1960s, Belgium’s need for cheap labor and lax immigration policies set in motion a large number of migrants who would make their way to Belgium”

    A sort of Belgian Neathergate

    “Andrew Neather was a speech writer who worked in Downing Street for Tony Blair and in the Home Office for Jack Straw and David Blunkett, in the early 2000s.

    He said Labour’s relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to “open up the UK to mass migration” but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its “core working class vote”. ”
    *
    So
    As you say
    Blair created the present sorry mess
    1. By turning al Qaeda into IS in Iraq and hence Syria
    2. By providing the fodder for extremist Imans

    *

    What was that you posted about Radovan Karadžić

  278. I have been watching Hillsdale College’s Constitution 101 course and, for obvious reasons perhaps, came across this phrase: we want a government to ‘govern through general rules, not ad hoc commands of an arbitrary sovereign’.

    A little like the current White House occupant? 🙂

  279. Malfleur
    March 29th, 2016 – 14:10

    The link in your posting certainly does point in the right direction.

    The failure of the rest of the world to do anything at all to put a stop to – or even curb – the Saudi fanatics inoculating the rest of the world’s populations with their evil and deadly infection is depressing.

    I have thought for a long time that Russia, India and China probably have more immunity than either Europe or the Anglosphere, but that in the end the last hope for civilisation may well be China.

  280. Another ‘event’:
    EU admits plot for FEDERAL superstate and describes Brussels attacks as an ‘opportunity’
    “Gianni Pitella, leader of the socialist group in the European Parliament, claimed the attack’s on the Belgian capital’s metro system and airport showed the need for even closer intergration of the 28 member nations of the bloc.

    He also called for a “European Intelligence Agency” to be set up to strengthen the EU’s defences against extremists.

    Critics warned that his outburst laid bare the ambitions for an European super-state held by many EU supporters and highlighted the long-term dangers of Britain staying tied to Brussels.”
    http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/656436/EU-plot-federal-superstate-Brussels-attacks-opportunity-political-union

    CMD never mentioned this possibility. What else hasn’t he mentioned?

  281. Bloody Towton.

    The 29th of March 1461 ; (555 years ago) . The bloodiest day in English history.

    In wind,snow and sleet 28,000 were slaughtered in battle between Edward IV and the Lancastrians ; more then on the First Day of The Somme.

    History Today :

    http://www.bit.ly/GZTwus

  282. FAST & FURIOUS

    Elements of the US government are STILL shipping weapons from Army bases in the USA through THROUGH MEXICO TO THE MIDDLE EAST.

    See the interviews starting about 48 minutes into the link below with Kent Terry and Marine Lieutenant Colonel Matt Smithmec:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jWXT_B6hOs

  284. Socialism and the EU superstate. The Comintern re-heated and a Soviet Union for the West.

    That is the plan. A common purpose of the progressives.

  286. @11:48

    “And Julia as Lavrentiy(sic)
    Looks OK to me”

    If only!

    and so it came to pass…

    “Beria and all the other defendants were sentenced to death on 23 December 1953. When the death sentence was passed, Beria pleaded on his knees for mercy before collapsing to the floor and wailing and crying energetically, but to no avail.[35] The other six defendants were executed by firing squad on the same day the trial ended.[36] Beria was executed separately. He was shot through the forehead by General Pavel Batitsky who had to stuff a rag into Beria’s mouth to silence his bawling (his final moments bore great similarity to those of his own predecessor, NKVD Chief Nikolai Yezhov, who begged for his life before his execution in 1940).”

    The one thing that Mr K did that Baron might not take issue with?

  287. EC March 30th, 2016 – 12:50

    What a nasty bunch of creeps they were. Anyone who thinks that lot were “ok” is seriously deranged.

    But unfortunately Britain has been blighted by such Sovietphile creeps for a very long time and continues to be so..

  288. From Germany comes another cry of distress ; from Ludwigshafen in the Rhineland-Pfalz (home of BASF).
    A young mother tells of how her nine year old son was assaulted by a gang of young asylum seekers.Her husband confronted them with a `defence gun`.The assault was reported to the local police.
    The next morning their home was raided by the `Reich` police and her husband arrested.
    Video (10 mins. : English sub-titles ).

    https://youtu.be/MD8GSyLaxrI

  289. Let me count the ways: the British government as the enemy of the British people:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/03/30/britain-sacrifices-steel-industry-to-curry-favour-with-china/

    With NATO’s ISIS targeting European nuclear power stations, do we really need thes Chinese white elephants? We have plentiful coal and the technology to burn it without pollution. Only the Secretary of Energy stands in our way with ther detrmination to close all coal-fired energy plants by 2020.

    Why is she doing that? Whose interest is she serving? We need a more vigorous alternative media to investigate such questions, particularly in light of the headline in Zero Hedge two days ago that:

    “Top German Journalist Admits Mainstream Media Is Completely Fake: “We All Lie For The CIA” ”

    “Dr. Ulfkotte went on public television stating that he was forced to publish the works of intelligence agents under his own name, also adding that noncompliance with these orders would result in him losing his job.”

    Is the situation in Britain likely to be much differen mutatis mutandis?

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-28/top-german-journalist-admits-mainstream-media-completely-fake-we-all-lie-cia

  290. I just received this email, via Breitbart, from Ted Cruz: easily the most unlikeable, oleaginous, hypocritical candidate in the circus:

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    Dear Frank, this is UNREAL. I don’t have anywhere else to turn — so I’m turning to you.
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  292. In his day, EC, he wrote wise words

    “It has been said, with truth, that one tenth of a man’s life is concerned with politics and nine-tenths with economics. Without food, the individual dies. Without clothing, he freezes. Without houses and weapons, he is prey to the starving wolves. The acquisition of sufficient items to answer these necessities of food, clothing and shelter, in reason, is the natural right of a member of an enlightened State.”

    He goes on

    “An excess of such items brings about unrest and disquiet. The presence of luxury items and materials, and the artificial creation and whetting of appetites by advertising, are certain to accentuate the less-desirable characteristics of Man”

    Not very different from the message from Justin Welby

    “Questioning David Cameron’s slogan “we’re all in this together” they condemn inequality as “evil” and dismiss the assumption that the value of communities is in their economic output as a “sin”.

    Britain, they argue has been “dominated” by “rampant consumerism and individualism” since the Thatcher era, while the Christian values of solidarity and selflessness have been supplanted by a new secular creed of “every person for themselves”

    It is very difficult to take a black and white view of history

  293. The quote by Beria is out of context. It was part of his treatise on Psychopolitics and was included in the Soviet manual on brainwashing.

    Julia Middleton and Common Purpose don’t use the term brainwashing. They call it “neuro linguistic programming” instead. But the result is the same. Controlled groupthink.

    The psychobabble involved was originally conceived by two American weirdos in the 1970s to address personal self help needs but was quickly seized on by the radical subversives of the left as a means to secure power over others through the concept of political correctness. They knew that they would never be elected if they were honest about their aspirations so their approach developed that already established by the Fabians, the original wolves in sheep’s clothing, of securing power by deceit and subterfuge.

    But securing power within the institutions of state via the Long March was one thing, wielding that power in order to bring about the “change” that they deemed necessary to impose on everyone else, even those perfectly content, was another thing. The power of words, political correctness (PC) and neuro linguistic programming were the answer. By first undermining a “traditional” black and white view of history (and everything else) through contrived relativism and PC they could impose their own black and white view of history (and everything else) to force cultural change.

    This is what has happened. It is called socialism or “progress” but it is infinitely more sinister than that. It is more akin to alien body snatching in terms of the cultural and intellectual changes it has wrought on society. A completely artificial and malign empowerment disguised as a benign and moral “progress”.

    A simple exercise reveals an essential truth. If the ultimate expression of man’s content and happiness is an equal sharing of necessities and no more, and “an excess of such items brings about unrest and disquiet”, then let us look to the cheerleaders of this cult to see whether they live by necessity alone or whether they enjoy privilege, higher income, elite status, luxuries and the protection and perpetuation of those advantages for their own families.

    The answer is obvious. None of the cheerleaders of the New Left live monastic lives of necessity alone in the true sense. None of them are Ghandi. Their cult and their creed is utterly bogus. They enjoy the very thing they decry by decrying it. The destruction of aspiration is for the “little people” whilst their own elitism is secured through that destruction. The “equality” is to be imposed on others, not achieved as a universal good. The hierarchy continues but calls itself something else – “the party”.

    Shrouded in this deceit of goodness the elitist of the New Left feather their own nests by pursuing an endless “struggle” on behalf of an under class only of interest to them as a tool to be exploited. A source of justification and income whilst at the same time massaging their usually inflated egos to put them over others. They impose their “equality” from gilded thrones. Their “progress” is nothing without coercion and the erosion of aspiration, together with freedom.

    Examine if you will every single manifestation of communist ideology as government to see that this is true.

    And yet it still takes people in. The bogus words and justifications are still accepted, copied, disseminated as a conventional wisdom for our very special times.

  295. Yes you say
    But please read Keith Joseph

    What has to be stimulated is risk taking, with its attendant rewards for success

    In Joseph’s view, politics had remained too long in thrall to the 1930s whereas the objective should be the generation of wealth

    But, and this is crucial

    “But the goal was wealth creation for society, not for individuals”

    *

    Keith would have been askance at the philosophy above mired in the capitalist-socialist rhetoric of the 1930’s. Tony Blair for all his faults understood that and as a consequence dragged us out of the Victorian and gave us 21st century institutions

  296. The point is that without wealth creation for individuals there will be no wealth creation for society, as communist regimes have always demonstrated but the fools who romanticise them will not learn. The aspiration is pie in the sky and merely results in the same wealth creation for the few (the party members and apparatchiks) but with the attendant loss of aspiration and freedom to become wealthy for the many. Marxist idiots who still believe in and peddle that dangerous guff are predatory. They impose and seek to impose. In the name of “equality” they destroy freedom – and equality with it.

    It is both ridiculous and preposterous to claim that Blair “dragged us out of the Victorian”. There was no Victorian – that is another wretched left wing myth perpetrated by lies and misrepresentation – it is pure hyperbole to describe Britain in 1997 as “Victorian”. Nonsense! Enough! Stop it!

    If that venal, egotistical and self-serving Scotch shyster Blair dragged anything it was a bandwagon full of left wing misfits and chancers to infest the institutions with malice aforethought. He certainly dragged down notions of English freedom that had been protected as sacred for hundreds of years and enlarged the politicised state at their expense. He presided over a grisly ‘gang’ of politicians, unfortunately many of whom are still with us, that reminded then and does so now of the same venal gang that ran the Nazi party. A clique, a coterie, a cabal of deceivers and worm-tongued slimeballs that elevated themselves as they set the stage for the heir to Blair, who persists in government by spin and coercion whilst spouting socialist crap about “equality”.

    Britain was positively ruined by Blair and the man who ushered him in, John Major. The Britain that had seen off Argentina in 1982, a catharsis from post-Empire dudgeon, defeated the IRA and renewed wealth and regeneration across the land was brought low again by Blair, with his bad law, common purpose, cultural marxism, mass immigration “to rub the right’s nose in diversity”, stupid bloody wars and sleight of hand financing. To describe that horror as dragging “us out of the Victorian” is deranged and demented beyond belief.

    The “21st Century institutions” he gave us are a bloated, expensive, over staffed and over mighty state, a politicised civil service, police forces suffused with political correctness rather than Peel’s Principles and thereby not fit for purpose, the destruction of the impartial rule of law, fake charities, a self-serving and self perpetuating quango elite who we are forced to fund for them to nag, bully and coerce us some more and an over-populated country of warring identity groups with the promise of serious sectarian strife to come.

    Whenever a scheming post-modern socialist came along and deemed that this gentle, peaceful, untroubled country was “unfair” and needed forceful change then acts of wanton destruction followed, the good was thrown out with the bad, lies prospered and the truth was suppressed. You might try misrepresenting that reality on a generation of brainwashed children who know no better but don’t try to peddle it here on people who actually lived in and experienced that Britain, who knew it intimately and can remember it. Don’t scorn their reality with that tedious socialist cliché as being “nostalgic for some golden age that never existed”. Compared to what Blair and the rest of his scheming parvenu socialist scum have wrought it was indeed golden.

    To exist in some kind of embalmed belief that a Soviet experiment will now cure all ills , to believe that this social justice “struggle” must be renewed after decades of socialist government and experiment, to pretend in some high moral purpose amidst the chaos caused by that very same ideology, is to literally add insult to injury. So stop it. Enough of the nonsense, here of all places. It does no good other than to demonstrate the twisted mentality that twists truth in order to turn sanity to madness and call that “progress”.

  297. One cannot but agree that wealth creation requires individual action. Take for example John Paul’s social encyclical Centesimus Annus:

    “… besides the earth, man’s principal resource is man himself. His intelligence enables him to discover the earth’s productive potential and the many different ways in which human needs can be satisfied. It is his disciplined work in close collaboration with others that makes possible the creation of ever more extensive working communities which can be relied upon to transform man’s natural and human environments. Important virtues are involved in this process such as diligence, industriousness, prudence in undertaking reasonable risks, reliability and fidelity in interpersonal relationships as well as courage in carrying out decisions which are difficult and painful, but necessary both for the overall working of a business and in meeting possible setbacks”

    But graft onto that the titanic thoughts of Adam Smith

    Adam Smith said that economic life was neither totally random nor blind necessity. His great insight was that because of the existence of self-love and sympathy as motives for human conduct coupled with “the way things work” in economic life, the system or the order in which economic life takes place is one of emergent probability. The key to the wealth of nations was not natural resources, political status, state planning, military power, or even the Divine Right of Kings but human creativity and intelligence. This system was a bottom-up approach, which was based on the rationality of individuals. The genius of this system is that it was built up from the actions of myriads of individuals endowed with the freedom of choice to pursue their own interests.

    But this is the crucial phrase that apologists distorting Adam Smith omit

    “and that would, without being designed to do so, help promote the common good”

    *

    “help promote the common good”

  298. But my biggest gripe is the belittling of Tony’s unarguable major triumph in solving the Northern Ireland conflict
    And bringing peace at last to the United Kingdom

    Remember the courage this took

    “None of this is easy. I get many letters from the victims of violence asking why we are freeing terrorist prisoners. It is a tough question but my answer is clear: the agreement would never have come about if we had not tackled the issue of prisoners. That agreement heralds the prospect of an end to violence and a peaceful future for Northern Ireland. Our duty is to carry it out. That is a duty I feel more strongly than ever, having seen for myself the horror of Omagh. This was not the first such atrocity. But with all of my being, I will it to be the last. I will never forget the meeting I had, with Bill Clinton, with survivors, and with relatives of those who died. Their suffering and their courage was an inspiration. They will never forget their loved ones. Nor must we. We owe it to them above all to build a lasting peace, when we have the best opportunity in a generation to do so”

  299. New ladybird books
    Sadly the illustrations, this entire publication and indeed the entire Ladybird series of books were banned by ‘Left-Wing People’ not long after going to press on the grounds that:

    1. ‘Lady’ is too gender-specific which may cause offence to non-gender/gender-neutral/gender-opposite types.

    2. ‘Lady’ as a reference to a gender specific category is insufficiently working class which may cause offence to working class types.

    3. ‘Bird’ is a derogatory term used by working class types in reference to a gender specific category and may cause offence to left-wing members of that gender specific category.

    4. Any illustrations, no matter the subject depicted, may be offensive to someone, somewhere and therefore are not allowed on discrimination grounds and the right of everyone, everywhere to by suitably offended on behalf of someone else.

    (Historical note: Images using non-gender/race/species specific stick figures were briefly considered just prior to the banning order but were rejected on the grounds that an as yet undiscovered tribe of non-gender/race/species specific working class types may be discovered in some as yet unexplored corner of the Brazilian Rain Forest at some indeterminable point in the future and therefore the Left Wing People felt suitable justified in being offended on their behalf)

  300. “help promote the common good” is one thing. Those who peddle socialism as a means to power using that phrase as justification for their elevation is quite another.

    Firstly very often they achieve the exact opposite.

    Secondly their imperative is invariably venal. Who the Hell are they to “promote the common good” anyway”? Who the Hell made them the best judges of what is to the common good except their own inflated egos and, more recently, virtue signalling.

  302. Blair did not resolve the Northern Ireland conflict.

    Firstly he merely presided over the process that John Major’s regime had already begun, taking undeserved credit for it, any merit in the fact being tarnished by his regime’s party political boasting about it. The current Corbynista IRA fan boys tell a closer truth about Labour and Northern Ireland. The IRA got away with far too much in the “deal” and peace has not been well served by one of their own murderous bombers of women and children prancing about in the European Parliament as an MEP no less and shedding crocodile tears over the Brussels atrocities, not least in the fact that all the other MEPs tolerate that thing being in the same room with them. No comfort in a “peace” or sense of justice is served by that outrageous spectacle of evil.

    Secondly it is not resolved and the UK is not at peace. Any “peace” attributable to the Good Friday agreement has been completely offset by the reckless and malevolent immigration policies initiated by Blair’s regime that have sown the seeds for serious sectarian strife and violence in the decades to come.

    Just stop lying for Blair, who should be in prison, and peddling this utterly bogus socialist tripe on a website where most of the commentators can see right through it, do not need it and do not want it. You continue to be a useful idiot, apologist for Stalin and Beria, and un-closeted communist if you want to but don’t drag that stinking crap in here.

  303. “help promote the common good”
    That was a quote from Socialist Adam Smith

    Yes, but modern socialists simply don’t understand the difference between intentions and consequences. They bleat the aspiration as an end in itself but their actions are too often the direct opposite to achieving that. Beria assassinates those he sees as an impediment to his beliefs, bleating that it is for the “common good”. ISIS do the same. All the evil, even the Nazis, have dressed up their horror as being for the “common good”. The questions are who determines what is for the “common good” and why should they.

    Bleating about the intentions of Adam Smith does not justify the consequences of bloody Blair and bloody Labour. British socialism has turned into a rotten, stinking malignancy and until it gets its own house in order and stops basing ideology on lies, malevolence, hatreds and envy that won’t change.

    And the “common good” is for EVERYONE, not just the Labour party’s preferred identity groups or favoured “victimhood” status. It is not a cudgel with which to beat those they disapprove of. As long as significant numbers of people object to what they bring about and try to bring about they can claim no “common good”.

    So stop peddling it and go away.

  304. And Adam Smith was not a socialist. That is another example of ego-massaging, lefty revisionism. To make claim to those they have no right to.

    The concept of socialism was first coined by a Frenchman, strongly influenced by Adam Smith and it was very different to the stuff peddled by you and the rest of the virtue-signalling puritan busybodies now blighting England. He shared with Smith the belief that taxes needed to be much reduced in order to have a more just industrial system, desired the minimization of government intervention into the economy to prevent disruption of productive work and emphasised emphatically that state administration of the economy was generally parasitic and hostile to the needs of production. You won’t find much of that in the Labour party.

  305. “Just stop lying for Blair, who should be in prison”
    *
    Not yet
    *
    But he should be in the Hague
    *
    Some folks said that Radovan Karadžić was the high point but when Iraq is fully examined…..

  306. Socialism is fundamentally evil for a number of reasons:

    Principally it takes away your freedom to decide how you wish to spend your money; it presupposes you are not clever enough to decide the priorities of disposal of that which you have toiled to acquire. My income is mine to spend as I wish. It is not the government’s to provide for us what it thinks we need.

    In terms of society the socialist principle is inefficient. Ownership by the State of production and distribution means there is no competition, profits, losses or market. Just look at Soviet Russia, Cuba and North Korea. The Soviets collapsed. Cuba is begging at the US door and it will not be long before Korea implodes.

    Perhaps the greatest indictment is that it is immoral. You take from individuals that which belongs to them and give it to others to whom it does not belong.

  307. There are many greater than ourselves that have concluded correctly in relation to Socialism. I like Bastiat:

    “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”

    “In the end, this amounts to nothing more than “tyranny of the majority” and compulsory servitude.”

    Walter Williams in 2004 examined Socialism in relation to the American left and concluded:

    “An argument against legalized theft should not be construed as an argument against helping one’s fellow man in need. Charity is a noble instinct; theft legal or illegal is despicable. Or, put another way: reaching into one’s own pocket to assist his fellow man is noble and worthy of praise. Reaching into another person’s pocket to assist one’s fellow man is despicable and unworthy.”

  308. Colonel Mustard
    March 31st, 2016 – 10:42

    “……..The Britain that had seen off Argentina in 1982, a catharsis from post-Empire dudgeon, defeated the IRA and renewed wealth and regeneration across the land…….”

    and defeated Arthur Scargill, a fact for which I will always be grateful to the Thatcher government. Thatcher was the last great PM of this country, and there is no sign of anyone remotely approaching her stature ever leading us again.

  309. When Ronnie Corbett picked up his medal

    He bowed to the Queen, all polite and respectful.

    The monarch commanded “Stand up my good man”

    And Corbett replied “Ma’am, I already am”

  310. Lesley.
    Arthur Scargill is still with us.
    Steerpike tells us that he has advised the Labour Party that they cannot win because Jeremy Corbyn is not left wing enough.

  312. There has clearly been a lot of thinking today

    T – is it TRUE?
    H – is it HELPFUL?
    I – is it INSPIRING?
    N – is it NECESSARY?
    K – is it KIND?

  315. re Port Talbot, here’s a thought.

    Why don’t the luvvies, Unions and Corbynistas pool their funds and their beliefs and buy the bloody place. They can run it as a co-operative, the workers can all take equal shares irrespective of the amount of physical or mental effort they expend and prove to the rest of us that socialism really works.

    I was a Manager at the Meriden Motorcycle Co-operative back in the 70’s. I remember the Shop Steward who bought the place down going around in a taxi sacking those off sick if they weren’t actually in their sick beds or hospital (long before Hatton and the Liverpool thugs); the lunatics truly ran the asylum and it didn’t work.

    How about it Teletubby? Put your money where your mouth is for once?

    Didn’t think so. Socialism doesn’t work. Never has – never will. And the irony is that it’s Communism that’s putting them out of work. But they’ll never see it.

  320. Radford NG – 02:48

    Alex Massie chelping about big brother and a descent into a police state?
    Bwahahahahaha
    SUCK IT UP ALEX, you deserve it!

  323. Clear Memories
    There is absolutely no chance of Corbyn doing anything about steel. He is all hot air. He is a puff of wind. Kinnock seems to be the only one of the Labour rabble with anything sensible to say. If I were the people of Port Talbot I would ask Kinnock to get his wife to put together a Viking raiding party to storm Beijing and stop the dumping of steel.
    I believe in a free market but dumping cannot be allowed to destroy Welsh towns and cities.

  324. And another thing ……

    If Wales is its own Country, why not save the steel works with the foreign aid budget? Two fingers to the EU as it doesn’t breach their one-sided industry support rules and a few less fuzzy-wuzzies survive to invade Europe. What’s not to like?

  325. Comments
    Community

    SamsaraGuru
    4 minutes ago
    RADICAL ISLAM

    There seems to be a lot of confusion about “The Religion of Peace” as our Noble Peace Prize winning President is often wont to call it, at least in those times he takes off from when he isn’t busy accusing policemen of racism and shooting, without any cause poor, innocent black “boys”, who were trying to kill said police officers by taking the officers gun to do the killing with – like the thug in Ferguson, MO. Allow me to help clear things up. Herein, a Radical Muslim Primer.

    Lesson1

    The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
    The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
    The Fort Hood Shoo ter was a Muslim
    The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
    The U-S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
    The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
    The Bali Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
    The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
    The Moscow Threat Attackers were Muslims
    The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
    The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
    The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
    The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
    The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
    The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
    The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
    The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
    The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
    The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
    The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
    The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
    The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
    The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
    The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
    The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims
    The Paris terrorists who murdered 130 with the bombs and guns were Muslims
    The Charlie Hebdo assassins, who killed 12 cartoonist for insulting the Prophet of the “Religion of Peace” were Muslims
    The San Bernardino terrorists, who slaughtered 14 people and seriously wounded 22 others at a Christmas party were Muslims
    Latest update to list of
    The Brussels Bombers were? Muslim
    Are you discerning a pattern?

    Lesson 2(a)

    Think of it:

    Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
    Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
    Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Confuc ians = No Problem
    Confucians living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
    Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
    Hindus living with Baha’is = No Problem
    Baha’is living with Christians = No Problem
    Christians living with Jews = No Problem
    Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
    Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
    Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
    Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
    Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

    Lesson 2(b)

    Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
    Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
    Muslims living with Christians = Problem
    Muslims living with Jews = Problem
    Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
    Muslims living with Baha’is = Problem
    Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
    Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
    MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

    Lesson (3a)

    **********SO THIS LEADS TO *****************

    They’re not happy in Gaza
    They’re not happy in Egypt
    They’re not happy in Libya
    They’re not happy in Morocco
    They’re not happy in Iran
    They’re not happy in Iraq
    They’re not happy in Yemen
    They’re not happy in Afghanistan
    They’re not happy in Pakistan
    They’re not happy in Syria
    They’re not happy in Lebanon
    They’re not happy in Nigeria
    They’re not happy in Kenya
    They’re not happy in Sudan

    Lesson 3(b)

    ******** So, where are they happy? **********
    They’re happy in Australia
    They’re happy in England
    They’re happy in Belgium
    They’re happy in France
    They’re happy in Italy
    They’re happy in Germany
    They’re happy in Sweden
    They’re happy in the USA & Canada
    They’re happy in Norway & India

    They’re happy in almost every country that is not Islamic! And who do they blame?

    Not Islam… Not their leadership… Not themselves, THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

    And
    they want to change the countries they’re happy in, to be like the
    countries they came from, where they were unhappy and if they had stayed in them they probably would have be slaughtered.

    Lesson 4

    Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    ISIS : AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
    AND A LOT MORE!
    But, our politically correct politicians just can’t figure out who’s causing the problem.

    In Ohio a “refugee” named Mohamed Barry walked into an Israel Arab’s diner where the owner publicly supported Israel and had Israeli citizenship and attacked diners with a machete.

    The police said, “We have no idea why he did it and have no reason to suspect terrorism”, or words very close to that

    until the FBI came in and said that it strongly suspected it was terror related.

    Gee, who would have thought?

    We are all at war with Radical Islam, even if our Word Parcer in Chief isn’t honest, nor man enough to admit it.

    We need more than anything to get a handle on immigration. ALL immigration from everywhere but, most especially, from hell hole, third world, despotic nations in Africa and the Middle East as well as Mexico and Latin America.

    Otherwise, we will, not may, but will commit national suicide. People who have no clue nor any real interest in free speech, women’s rights, gay rights or even human rights – because they come from despotic countries where life is dirt cheap and human rights are only reserved for the despots who rule with an iron fist – cannot possibly, truly comprehend the complexity and subtle nuances that underlay tolerant, Western civilizations and will not assimilate. They have no basis of prior knowledge upon which to even begin to comprehend and people who think they will just naturally embrace total alien, foreign values like respect for human right s are simply stupid and simple minded.

    Only Donald Trump had and has he guts to call for a time out on all immigration as well as that we seal our borders. If we don’t, then it will be lights out for America.

  326. The European Union has appointed three stooges of its vassal state, the United Kingdom, as “Home Secretary” from J. Smith on 28 June 2007 who have operated the ban on Michael Savage as follows:

    United States Michael Savage “Considered to be engaging in unacceptable behaviour by seeking to provoke others to serious criminal acts and fostering hatred which might lead to inter-community violence”.

    Savage had a great show on April 1st and no doubt criminal acts have bee performed in thr United Kingdom these last tw days as a result of th internet permitting the evasion of these best efforts of the EU’s lackeys to suppress inter-community violence.

    All civilised citizens of the EU Region whhatever it is will join in clamouring for the suppression of uncontrolled Internet transmissions.

    On April 1st, and not as a practical joke, Savage proposed a provocative explanation for the alliance between ISIS (an NATO construct btw) and the regressive leftists.

    ISIS terrorists are not muslims, we have been told. OK, let’s accept this. What are they then, if not muslims?

    Answer: pagans.

    What are the leftists? Pagans.

    Hence – the ideological alliance and mutual support.

    Where is our defender of the faith (this last question is mine, not Savage’s)? She is AWOL. Forgeddabowda. Basically, at this time of crisis in our culture, the royal family are just clothes horses and have done a deal with the devil to turn aside from their duty. May be they will become sultanas. Who in our political class does their duty any more? June 23 may tell.

    *****

    But don’t worry, these people have your best interests at heart and are fully competent to dischharge the solemn duties towards humanity which history has settled on them:

    http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Obama-WH-Censors-Islamist-Terrorism-998×560.jpg

    Signed: The Anti-Federalist

    *****

    Peter? AWK? Where are you? Are you alright?

  328. Two unmissable posts:

    http://www.alexanderboot.com/the-protocols-of-the-elders-of-islam/

    http://www.alexanderboot.com/economic-wisdom-be-damned/

    Those of you with a taste for gallows humour, will appreciate the postscript to his latest post acknowledging a ‘readers response’ to the penultimate one.

    Frightfully bad taste, but wickedly humorous – no disrespect intended, I’m sure; we-ell I’m wiling to give both Mr Boot and his reader the benefit of the doubt on that score. I’m surprised if hasn’t surfaced before, or at least it hadn’t in my ambit of surfing the intertubes. ☺☺

  330. Amazing that someone who two years ago expected Russian boots as far west as those wearing them would care to walk would argue a country of our size and geographical location could do without a local steel manufacture.

    Britain would lose FA if she didn’t posses Trident, but would collapse without domestic steel making, unpolluted by radiation, be there for the taking of anyone who’d care to take a boat trip to her shores.

    Steel is an essential ingredient in virtually everything that we are still making however insignificant that range of industrial products may be, and more than that.

    To rely on imports (for how long?) may appeal to the (short term) bean counters, it should not blind those who genuinely care about our future.

    Probably the most cost effective solution would be for the Treasury to take over the pension obligation of those employed by Tata here (whatever the deficit, we did that for the Royal Mail), temporarily nationalise the company, modernise the process, put it on the market in chunks, but sell never more than 49% of the equity, or create a holding company with full (government) ownership rights.

  331. EC @ 10:22

    We should run a competition, EC, to find a picture (or a video) with the most peados in it, the two in your link is a good start.

  332. The Turkish Government says they have under arrest the 14 Turkmen who captured one of the Russian parachuted pilots when the SU-27 was shot down, including the brave fighter who actually shot the airman dead.

    In Moscow, Putin’s spokesman says Russia is ready to forgive the Turks for shooting down the fighter bomber provided Turkey says sorry, pays a compensation for the contraption, punishes those who killed the pilot.

  333. Several weeks ago, the ST published a 4-page mid-paper spread about drugs in sport, in the middle of it said some 96 sportsmen had tested positive, but the whole of the piece focused exclusively on the Russian athletes (except for one from Africa).

    In today’s ST, the front page has an exclusive about a private doctor based in London who was caught on camera boasting to undercover reporters about supplying drugs to 150 elite sportsmen based in Britain. It is also alleged the agency charged with policing sport (UKad) has known about it for two years, did BA to investigate properly.

    Someone who can be trusted like the MI5 (only joking), or a retired judge who has no knowledge of either drugs or sport should indeed look into it, there must be a Russian connection somewhere, the sooner we discover it, the better.

  334. Baron (16:03)

    Your innate socialist instincts breaking through again, Your Lordship? On both issues – the economy and defence? Or is it that your personal dislike of the Russian exile trump’s all other considerations including practical common sense? There is a global glut of steel (mainly due to China’s corruption of the market). That’s life. I for one don’t want to subsidise workers to produce an already over overstocked commodity. The Labour market needs to understand the word ‘adaptation’. And it isn’t spelled ‘nationalisation’ or its synonym ‘socialism’, both euphemisms for ‘communism’ or ‘totalinarianism’ even.

    For someone who fled from repressive communism you seem more than a little keen to impose some of its tenets on your chosen bolt-hole. Surprising, no?

    As for dumping our nuclear deterrent? DMAFF!!

    Btw. In case you hadn’t noticed, I suggest you take a walk around Mayfair, Hampstead Heath, or Stamford Bridge, even, if you are looking for Russian boots on the ground, they are there in abundance, disguised as John Lobb hand-made jobbies.

    Is it an old Russian proverb that suggests that there are more ways of killing as cat than skinning it? Or was that my old granny?

  335. Frank P

    Referring to Captn Dan’s nuke ’em initiative you may well be prescient. I see that ISIS are planning to spray us with nuclear waste from drones (that’s appropriate).
    We’d better get our bow in fust.

  336. Baron
    April 3rd, 2016 – 16:03
    “Probably the most cost effective solution would be …. temporarily nationalise the company, modernise the process, put it on the market in chunks, but sell never more than 49% of the equity, or create a holding company with full (government) ownership rights”

    Bravo

    Mind I know a chap who said all that on November 13 last year

    “….is to call for immediate state intervention in Britain’s declining steel industry this weekend in a speech that will also also seek to explain his patriotic vision for Britain.

    The Labour leader will urge David Cameron and George Osborne to part-nationalise the sector, following the loss of 4,000 jobs in October. The industry has blamed cheap Chinese imports for a collapse in steel prices”

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/13/corbyn-to-call-for-part-nationalisation-of-britains-steel-industry

  337. “Probably the most cost effective solution would be …. temporarily nationalise the company, modernise the process, put it on the market in chunks, but sell never more than 49% of the equity, or create a holding company with full (government) ownership rights”

    Bwahahahahaha! Now where have we heard that before? Oh, yes, Corbyn:-

    “. . . call for immediate state intervention in Britain’s declining steel industry”

    I know, let’s sell of all the assets to foreigners until the assets have been well and truly stripped and then nationalise the rest. A very short walk to a fully-fledged replica of the DDR, which judging by the resident troll’s assertion at the Speccie that “freedom of speech is dead” (quelle surprise) is pretty much the aspiration of all the communist/communitarian fucker infested mainstream political parties in this God forsaken country.

  338. So then Colonel what would you (and all the other iconoclasts) do
    What about the strategic issues of a nation that affects to defend the Western World
    What about the wellbeing (physical and mental) of the 15000 put on the scrapheap
    *
    Meanwhile on a point of order in reference to Speccie, let us have the whole quote

    “If we allow hate posts
    We further alienate minorities
    Alienated minorities breed violence
    The police are correct to warn”

  339. Classic reflection on the state of this country and the ‘king Cnuts running it and in the BBC that Portillo’s exposure of the British files relating to the marxist/republican rebellion in Dublin in 1916 should be titled ‘The Enemy Files’.

    The BBC and leftist “intelligentsia” have always romanticised Irish insurgency and terrorism but that takes the biscuit.

  340. Labels again. The resident TROLL, a communist subversive who has participated in the destruction of nations, has the temerity to call me an iconoclast! That’s laughable.

    He should not even be here peddling his tedious left wing tripe and intolerance. He and his vile common purposed comrades would define anything they disagreed with as “hate posts” – and have done – together with endlessly sneering at and smearing of those who do not care to conform to their vile, rotten, stinking, coercive orthodoxy.

    So the multiple account sockpuppet generator should belay the wasted attempts at “engagement” and “dialogue” just because Baron in his foolishness encourages him and instead go and wave his silly red flag somewhere else.

    Tired of lefties and the causes of the lefties.

  341. Here’s a message for the Glasgow branch of the SNP’s Stasi that I have thought carefully about.

    T – Totalitarian
    H – Hubristic
    I – Inane
    N – Nincompoop
    K – Keystone Kops

  342. One can sense it, almost smell it in the wind. That ultimate effort, the final push that the subversive left wing think will finally discredit freedom of speech to the point where they and their common purposed infiltrators can totally control it.

    From the ghastly Hoon’s weasel-worded misrepresentation in the noughties about crying “Fire!” in a crowded theatre to the resident’s trolls recent declaration (more plaintive aspiration than assertion) that “freedom of speech is dead” (it isn’t quite but the injured form is close to expiry), the left are gathering their grisly selves for the big push. They have now seized academia to the point of wrecking objective discourse and the possibility of emergent free minds, invented “triggering”, “safe spaces” and all the other connived at bollocks to go alongside their contrived and totally bogus “hate speech” and they have suborned various grandee useful idiots to peddle the concept of third party complaints. All directed towards controlling what can be written and what can be said so that inconvenient truths may be silenced and the happy-clappy, communitarian street party, vibrant diversity sham can continue, led beyond authority by the self-hating cheerleaders of Britain’s quiet cultural revolution.

  343. What would I do about steel?

    Well, unfortunately there is no such thing as a time machine so going back in time to 1969 to ensure that Ed Miliband’s stupid and self-destructive Climate Change Act was stillborn is not an option.

    And there is no science known to man that could inject sufficient doses of either courage or capability into the ‘younger by far than their years’ brains currently occupying the House of Westminster. The collective and cumulative stupidity seem unassailable.

    If solutions were as readily available as cabinet hot air and Anna Soubry’s primetime screeching there would probably be no steel problem.

    Tata for now, asset strippers.

  344. “led beyond authority by the self-hating cheerleaders of Britain’s quiet cultural revolution.”

    Even Nigel Farage is beginning to recognise the need for our National Organisations to lead beyond authority

    *

    But as he said “in these days of multinational approaches to complex issues issues the public need more particularly so when we disconnect from Europe”.

    What they need is Cultural Intelligence

    Instead of saying “I am good with people” code for “I am good with people like me”, folks need to be good with people who aren’t like us and for this we need to become culturally intelligent.

    Cultural Intelligence is the ability to cross divides and thrive in environments where there are diverse points of view

    Homogonous teams of people that agree with one another are stale and unexciting.

    In properly diverse intellectual interaction the ideas flow and the mix reveals worries and angles and connections and opportunities. But you need to have enough Cultural Intelligence to communicate effectively to promote ideas for the good of society

    Developing Cultural intelligence allows us to get better at understanding our fellow man. Some may feel uncomfortable with this

    But it is seen in abundance in the best political polemics

  345. “Cultural intelligence” is just another connived at piece of the Devil’s work intended to subvert good order and common sense.

    So-called “Cultural intelligence” which seeks to suppress that which it deems to be “homogonous (sic) teams of people that agree with one another” is simply oppression.

    The whole of that tendentious piece of common purposed propaganda crap seeks to establish a judgemental position about what is “good” and what is “bad”. Nothing wrong with that except that it seeks to do it from a position of power rather than debate.

    Listen and listen real good. I don’t buy the crap that you are peddling and never will. You can label me. You can pretend that I’m “on the wrong side of history” to puff up your own inflated ego and sense of moral superiority. But you won’t change my mind. Ever.

    I detest what you and your co-conspirators represent and always will, however much power you manage to secure and however many institutions you manage to slither into and corrupt. So take your “cultural intelligence” and all the other invented nonsense and compress them somewhere warm dark and moist.

  346. Colonel Mustard @ 20:04

    What’s the solution then you’re proposing, Colonel? The poorly educated Slav doesn’t get it from your posting, could you make it as clear as he’s made his suggestion you so much object to?

    Would you flog the plant for scrap, sell it to hedge funds, let it rot?

  347. Frank P @ 16:48

    Inane socialist instincts? Baron? Arghhh

    You may have forgotten, guru, the blue veined barbarian spent time inside for arguing just the opposite.

    It is common sense that tells him we have to keep steel making, he said so when Tata was taking over the facility, he says so again. It’s strategically vital we have the capacity for making what is the base for an immeasurably wide range of products – from needles to tanks. If trading routes were to be disrupted what then? You reckon collective waking would do it?

    Btw, the Germans have kept steel making in the hands of the state. Permanently. You reckon they’re wrong?

    On the boots:

    Different footwear, Frank, the shoes adoring the Russian feet in London are very likely made of the best skins one could find, amazing as it may seem, three millions pairs of English feet walk in the EU countries, would that count as occupation? Hmmm.

    As if that wasn’t enough, there are more English feet stamping the cobbled streets of Prague than there are Czech feet tramping in London. You and the rest of the country will have a chance to reverse it, get the English back to England, the Czechs back to the small country in the middle of Europe.

  348. More on steel:

    The barbarian has a confession to make (in case someone digs up his postings from the past):

    Tata acquired what was Corus around ten years ago, Baron was against it because he believed (still does) that some industrial segments ought to be owned by British capital e.g. utilities, suggested then the pension funds should put money into it (5% or 10%, he cannot recall what he actually said), with hindsight not a smart solution even though long term (pension funds do have a long term horizon) it may still turn out to be as good an investment as that in any other commodity i.e. gold, uranium ore, copper.

  349. Colonel Mustard @ 19:54

    Not everything the left-leaning progressives say is wrong.

    The communist thugs believed that if one nationalises the means of production (in the new language ‘the means of wealth creation’) down to hair clipping, everyone becomes a co-owner of everything, then everyone will get a fair share of the created wealth, equality will rule, people will be happy. It was of course bollocks.

    Before the thugs took over, free capitalism reigned, the state had no say in the creation of wealth, the working and living conditions of the majority were appealing, poverty everywhere except for the lucky few.

    Neither model was the answer, the solution was somewhere in the middle. Baron agrees we have moved too much to the state-does-all-nanny model, but this means not that the state has no role to play in cases such as the one we are debating. If we need a steel making capability (as the barbarian strongly believes we do) then a temporary nationalisation is the obvious step to take. In all probability in purely financial terms this may be the most cost effective solution. Instead of spending £12bn or so on foreign aid we spend a small chunk of it on taking over the steel plants.

  350. telemachus @ 19:06

    The quote is a pure crap, telemachus.

    The police (and those in charge overall) worry about offending only one minority, and whilst it is offended it tends to get violent. Right? Why not say so?

    Crrection to 21.35: it’s ‘collective wanking’ (the fugging software changed it again and again, sorry).

    Also, it takes longer to post than to write the postings. Peter, will you please switch to a new week? Typed, submit button clicked at 22.02 – for the first time.

  351. Baron April 3rd, 2016 – 22:00

    “Not everything the left-leaning progressives say is wrong.”

    There we must part company. Everything about them is wrong. But without people like you they would never have inflicted the destruction on England that they have. There are always going to be vipers and unfortunately there are also always going to be those who clutch them to their bosoms.

  352. Here’s a short one on the nuclear deterrent, Frank, (he did say it before, you must have missed it). Btw, what’s DMAFF?

    The Trident’s too costly, we cannot push the button anyway unless the Americans say ‘do’, it concentrates all the destructive power in just few places (easier to locate and destroy).

    Ask yourself, what’s smarter, is it to be in chains but alive, or to be free but dead or dying?

  353. Colonel Mustard @ 22:10

    It pains Baron to say it, Colonel, but on the contrary, it is because of the stubbornness of those opposing the telemachuses that we are in a shite. Life progresses, requires compromises, adjustments often because of technological changes, sticking rigidly to old certainties across the board creates unhappiness, division, failure.

    The barbarian would be the last one clutching the progressives to his bosom, but he reckons depriving them of a voice only enhances their chances of taking over. As the great Mark keeps pointing out the Nazis in pre-war Germany were deprived of a public voice, censored, taken to court. Did it help?

  354. Baron April 3rd, 2016 – 21:27

    I wasn’t proposing one, other than to observe, in paraphrase of that old music hall joke, that if I wanted to solve the problem I wouldn’t start from here.

    Basically, what the government likes to call “foreign investment” is divesting themselves of budgetary liability and passing that on to consumers. The polarised choice between nationalisation and “foreign investment” is, I would say, a false one. The corporate government bean counters study the books looking for the bottom line and the corporate foreign “investors” do the same. Between Miliband’s Climate Change Act (and it is an act) and corporate piracy the poor old consumers (or the steel workers in this case) get the raw deal. The government is supposed to protect the interests of the country and its people, not operate like some bean counter run corporate entity.

    Personally I’d keep the steel industry alive by building up the Royal Navy to a size that befits the history and tradition of a great maritime nation, defraying the cost of that by slashing the subsidising of quangos, fake charities, NGOs and all manner of public sector “useless mouths” as well as by taking an axe to the foreign aid budget. An appropriately sized Royal Navy would also provide employment and training opportunities for the nation’s youth as well as improving the security of our borders and the ability to enforce our pre-EU fishing rights. The Coastguard could be re-militarised to live up to its name with a decent fleet of vessels and equipment to do its job.

    Of course that would upset a lot of lefties and excitable foreign socialists so there would be a bonus too.

    But this government prefers international virtue signalling to protecting the interests, security and well-being of its people, as the latest pledge by some Tory bimbo to cut carbon emissions to 0% demonstrates.

  355. Baron April 3rd, 2016 – 22:30

    They have taken over. But not because they have been deprived of a platform or opposed. Precisely the opposite. They don’t take over because they are opposed but because their duplicity and corruption of the truth is never challenged by an effective narrative. The inclination of those like yourself is to give them an inch so they might take a mile. Appeasement and capitulation is dressed up as “compromise”. Hell, telemachus is here posting his bilge every day on a blog which is supposed to be holding out against his ilk which says it all.

    The second sentence of your first paragraph concedes completely to their narrative and effectively rejects any merit in conservatism. Those twin deceits of ‘progress’ and ‘change’ always being beneficial have taken root in a supposedly conservative government and apparently with you too, who ought to be better able to discern the consequences of that creed. Talking about compromise sounds suspiciously like that old commie chancer Corbyn taking tea with ISIS. Some “old certainties” gave us more dignity, strength, direction and contentment than any “progress” or “change” shuttled in by the likes of Blair, Clegg or Cameron.

    What has telemachus done with the real Baron or were you always inclined to fly the enemy’s flag?

  356. Btw Baron, the TROLL is HERE precisely because he believes that people who do not share his political dogma should have no voice. And that any voice they do have should always be countered by his. He is here to CONTROL not to participate. As long as his pseudonym appears in every thread we are not FREE of him or his kind.

    Get it yet?

  357. It’s curious how the leftist appetite for “dialogue” and their focus on “alienation” as the cause of all strife never sees them having a “dialogue” with UKIP or fretting about “alienating” the EDL, say.

  358. Ann Coulter leaves the question of whether Ted Cruz is “a natural born citizen” and thus eligible to hold the office of president of the United States (No) done and dusted here:

    http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2016-01-13.html

    Of more general interest to Englishmen whose society is, I would argue, being deliberately destroyed by New World Order policies is Mrs. Coulter’s reference in her article to “Calvin’s Case, in the British [sic] Court of Common Pleas, reported in 1608 by Lord [sic] Coke”.

    Coulter notes “The question before the court was whether Calvin — a Scot — could own land in England, a right permitted only to English subjects”.

    If Her Majesty and Parliament recover their sovereignty following a decision of the people on June 23, it might be worth considering reviving this principle in view of the concentration of significant urban and perhaps rural areas of Britain into not necessarily friendly hands..

  359. Colonel Mustard, April 3rd @ 22:56

    This is a significant point. A parallel would be to ask whether the disruptions by paid or unpaid provocateurs should be tolerated at Mr. Trump’s rallies, or indeed if such a thing is imaginable, at lectures before The Royal Geographical Society, on the ground of defending the principle of freedom of speech.

  360. As both key industries are threatened with destruction by our New World Order government, another initiative to follow a decision to leave on June 23rd might be to establish in Britain a Coal and Steel Community. Other European countries might become interested and we could broaden the name in time to the European Coal and Steel Community.

    Why, it might even develop into a common market.

  361. Baron (21:35)

    “Inane socialist instincts? Baron? Arghhh”

    You misquote me, m’Lud. I wrote “innate socialistic tendencies” not “innane(sic)…”

    I would never accuse you of being silly (or any of the other synonyms for inane, which is what I assume you misread in my tease and misspelled in your response). ☺

    But I am disappointed to observe in your writings here what are obviously residual traces and sometimes clear symptoms of inborn socialistic bent, which some say is common to us all, but in most disappears soon after real life experience begins, usually in the school playground, if not before.

    When socialism is practised by governments (elected or imposed) in any way, shape or form, it becomes a ghastly social malaise.

    As practised by the USSR and among its allies/satellites, it became a murderous oppressive cult and the useful idiots of this country who apologise for that era and its heirs and successors (still clearly extant), are beneath contempt.

    I would have thought that anyone who escaped the system that obtained East of the Iron Curtain and settled here as a choice would not wish to see even a twitch of a renaissance of that evil emerging here?

    As it is, we seem to be drowning in it – and spilling an extra bucket or two of it on to this platform only adds to the poisonous piss already discharged from our resident squatter, who keeps announcing his intention to leave but persists in remaining.

    DMAFF! = Do me a fucking favour!

    An expostulation used by some uncouth Englishmen like me, as an expression of exhausted contempt for an opinion with which they disagree vehemently.

    Anybody who suggests that we denude ourselves of our nuclear deterrent is deranged – if not indeed subversive: coming from someone born behind the Iron Curtain, at best suspect, at worst dangerous. But at least you’re not from the SNP – that would be the final straw.
    ☺

  362. “KERRY TO GIVE AWARD TO SOROS ACTIVIST AIDING MUSLIM MIGRATION INTO SLOVAKIA” by Daniel Greenfield Front Page Magazine

    The Women of Courage award has always been terrible. This time though one of the worst awardees isn’t in the Muslim world, but in Slovakia.

    As Director of the Human Rights League (HRL) – Slovakia’s premier NGO providing legal and other assistance to foreigners –attorney Zuzana Stevulova has emerged as the country’s most prominent advocate for refugee and migrant rights. In a country where the majority of asylum applications are rejected, she has won numerous cases at Slovakia’s Supreme Court on behalf of clients in expulsion and asylum proceedings. Since the start of Europe’s migration crisis, Ms. Stevulova has been a strong and unwavering voice for greater assistance to and compassion for refugees. She has not shied away from criticizing the anti-refugee and anti-Muslim rhetoric of certain politicians and regularly challenges social prejudice and fear by introducing Slovak citizens to refugees who have successfully integrated into Slovak society.

    We could just leave it there. That bio is enough of an indictment on its own. But it probably won’t surprise you too much that a certain radical billionaire is behind this.

    The Human Rights League plugs right into the Soros network.

    Implementing organization: The Human Rights League; activities implemented in close cooperation with these Open Society Foundation Slovakia and Plea for Humanity initiative. Project has been financially supported by Open Society Foundations Think Tank:

    There’s a letter to the Islamic Foundation of Slovakia apologizing for how mean the politicians are being to them signed by Zuzana Stevulova and Ján Orlovský of the Open Society Foundation on the HRL site. Overall, Zuzana seems much more interested in Muslims than in refugees in general. So HRL is yet another NGO backed by foreign interests trying to subvert local democratic policy.

    The HRL dispatches complaints about Slovakia to the EU and the UN trying to force an undemocratic compliance with undemocratic global institutions over local democratic ones.

    Giving Zuzana an award just broadcasts that HRL is a foreign organization dedicated to the aims of the EU and the State Department and George Soros, not those of Slovakia.

    End of Article

    *****

    Meanwhile if you need an idea of what havoc a malignant nazi collaborator with New World Order credentials and too much money can wreak with dozens more legal persons, cast your eye over the following and remember what Sir Edward Coke said of them. They “cannot commit treason, nor be outlawed nor excommunicated, because they have no soul.”:

    http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=1237

    Organizations that, in recent years, have received direct funding and assistance from George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI) include the following. (Comprehensive profiles of each are available in the “Groups” section of DiscoverTheNetworks.org):

    Advancement Project: This organization works to organize “communities of color” into politically cohesive units while disseminating its leftist worldviews and values as broadly as possible by way of a sophisticated communications department.
    Air America Radio: Now defunct, this was a self-identified “liberal” radio network.
    All of Us or None: This organization seeks to change voting laws — which vary from state to state — so as to allow ex-inmates, parolees, and even current inmates to cast their ballots in political elections.
    Alliance for Justice: Best known for its activism vis a vis the appointment of federal judges, this group consistently depicts Republican judicial nominees as “extremists.”
    America Coming Together: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to coordinate and organize pro-Democrat voter-mobilization programs.
    America Votes: Soros also played a major role in creating this group, whose get-out-the-vote campaigns targeted likely Democratic voters.
    America’s Voice: This open-borders group seeks to promote “comprehensive” immigration reform that includes a robust agenda in favor of amnesty for illegal aliens.
    American Bar Association Commission on Immigration Policy: This organization “opposes laws that require employers and persons providing education, health care, or other social services to verify citizenship or immigration status.”
    American Bridge 21st Century: This Super PAC conducts opposition research designed to help Democratic political candidates defeat their Republican foes.
    American Civil Liberties Union: This group opposes virtually all post-9/11 national security measures enacted by the U.S. government. It supports open borders, has rushed to the defense of suspected terrorists and their abettors, and appointed former New Left terrorist Bernardine Dohrn to its Advisory Board.
    American Constitution Society for Law and Policy: This Washington, DC-based think tank seeks to move American jurisprudence to the left by recruiting, indoctrinating, and mobilizing young law students, helping them acquire positions of power. It also provides leftist Democrats with a bully pulpit from which to denounce their political adversaries.
    American Family Voices: This group creates and coordinates media campaigns charging Republicans with wrongdoing.
    American Federation of Teachers: After longtime AFT President Albert Shanker died in in 1997, he was succeeded by Sandra Feldman, who slowly “re-branded” the union, allying it with some of the most powerful left-wing elements of the New Labor Movement. When Feldman died in 2004, Edward McElroy took her place, followed by Randi Weingarten in 2008. All of them kept the union on the leftward course it had adopted in its post-Shanker period.
    American Friends Service Committee: This group views the United States as the principal cause of human suffering around the world. As such, it favors America’s unilateral disarmament, the dissolution of American borders, amnesty for illegal aliens, the abolition of the death penalty, and the repeal of the Patriot Act.
    American Immigration Council: This non-profit organization is a prominent member of the open-borders lobby. It advocates expanded rights and amnesty for illegal aliens residing in the U.S.
    American Immigration Law Foundation: This group supports amnesty for illegal aliens, on whose behalf it litigates against the U.S. government.
    American Independent News Network: This organization promotes “impact journalism” that advocates progressive change.
    American Institute for Social Justice: AISJ’s goal is to produce skilled community organizers who can “transform poor communities” by agitating for increased government spending on city services, drug interdiction, crime prevention, housing, public-sector jobs, access to healthcare, and public schools.
    American Library Association: This group has been an outspoken critic of the Bush administration’s War on Terror — most particularly, Section 215 of the USA Patriot Act, which it calls “a present danger to the constitutional rights and privacy rights of library users.”
    The American Prospect, Inc.: This corporation trains and mentors young leftwing journalists, and organizes strategy meetings for leftist leaders.
    Amnesty International: This organization directs a grossly disproportionate share of its criticism for human rights violations at the United States and Israel.
    Applied Research Center: Viewing the United States as a nation where “structural racism” is deeply “embedded in the fabric of society,” ARC seeks to “build a fair and equal society” by demanding “concrete change from our most powerful institutions.”
    Arab American Institute Foundation: The Arab American Institute denounces the purportedly widespread civil liberties violations directed against Arab Americans in the post-9/11 period, and characterizes Israel as a brutal oppressor of the Palestinian people.
    Aspen Institute: This organization promotes radical environmentalism and views America as a nation plagued by deep-seated “structural racism.”
    Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now: This group conducts voter mobilization drives on behalf of leftist Democrats. These initiatives have been notoriously marred by fraud and corruption.
    Ballot Initiative Strategy Center: This organization seeks to advance “a national progressive strategy” by means of ballot measures—state-level legislative proposals that pass successfully through a petition (“initiative”) process and are then voted upon by the public.
    Bill of Rights Defense Committee: This group provides a detailed blueprint for activists interested in getting their local towns, cities, and even college campuses to publicly declare their opposition to the Patriot Act, and to designate themselves “Civil Liberties Safe Zones.” The organization also came to the defense of self-described radical attorney Lynne Stewart, who was convicted in 2005 of providing material support for terrorism.
    Black Alliance for Just Immigration: This organization seeks to create a unified movement for “social and economic justice” centered on black racial identity.
    Blueprint North Carolina: This group seeks to “influence state policy in North Carolina so that residents of the state benefit from more progressive policies such as better access to health care, higher wages, more affordable housing, a safer, cleaner environment, and access to reproductive health services.”
    Brennan Center for Justice: This think tank/legal activist group generates scholarly studies, mounts media campaigns, files amicus briefs, gives pro bono support to activists, and litigates test cases in pursuit of radical “change.”
    Brookings Institution: This organization has been involved with a variety of internationalist and state-sponsored programs, including one that aspires to facilitate the establishment of a U.N.-dominated world government. Brookings Fellows have also called for additional global collaboration on trade and banking; the expansion of the Kyoto Protocol; and nationalized health insurance for children. Nine Brookings economists signed a petitionopposing President Bush’s tax cuts in 2003.
    Campaign for America’s Future: This group supports tax hikes, socialized medicine, and a dramatic expansion of social welfare programs.
    Campaign for Better Health Care: This organization favors a single-payer, government-run, universal health care system.
    Campaign for Youth Justice: This organization contends that “transferring juveniles to the adult criminal-justice system leads to higher rates of recidivism, puts incarcerated and detained youth at unnecessary risk, has little deterrence value, and does not increase public safety.”
    Campus Progress: A project of the Soros-bankrolled Center for American Progress, this group seeks to “strengthen progressive voices on college and university campuses, counter the growing influence of right-wing groups on campus, and empower new generations of progressive leaders.”
    Casa de Maryland: This organization aggressively lobbies legislators to vote in favor of policies that promote expanded rights, including amnesty, for illegal aliens currently residing in the United States.
    Catalist: This is a for-profit political consultancy that seeks “to help progressive organizations realize measurable increases in civic participation and electoral success by building and operating a robust national voter database of every voting-age American.”
    Catholics for Choice: This nominally Catholic organization supports women’s right to abortion-on-demand.
    Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good: This political nonprofit group is dedicated to generating support from the Catholic community for leftwing candidates, causes, and legislation.
    Center for American Progress: This leftist think tank is headed by former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta, works closely with Hillary Clinton, and employs numerous former Clinton administration staffers. It is committed to “developing a long-term vision of a progressive America” and “providing a forum to generate new progressive ideas and policy proposals.”
    Center for Community Change: This group recruits and trains activists to spearhead leftist “political issue campaigns.” Promoting increased funding for social welfare programs by bringing “attention to major national issues related to poverty,” the Center bases its training programs on the techniques taught by the famed radical organizer Saul Alinsky.
    Center for Constitutional Rights: This pro-Castro organization is a core member of the open borders lobby, has opposed virtually all post-9/11 anti-terrorism measures by the U.S. government, and alleges that American injustice provokes acts of international terrorism.
    Center for Economic and Policy Research: This group opposed welfare reform, supports “living wage” laws, rejects tax cuts, and consistently lauds the professed achievements of socialist regimes, most notably Venezuela.
    Center for Reproductive Rights: CRR’s mission is to guarantee safe, affordable contraception and abortion-on-demand for all women, including adolescents. The organization has filed state and federal lawsuits demanding access to taxpayer-funded abortions (through Medicaid) for low-income women.
    Center for Responsible Lending: This organization was a major player in the subprime mortgage crisis. According to Phil Kerpen (vice president for policy at Americans for Prosperity), CRL “sh[ook] down and harass[ed] banks into making bad loans to unqualified borrowers.” Moreover, CRL negotiated a contract enabling it to operate as a conduit of high-risk loans to Fannie Mae.
    Center on Budget and Policy Priorities: Reasoning from the premise that tax cuts generally help only the wealthy, this organization advocates greater tax expenditures on social welfare programs for low earners.
    Center on Wisconsin Strategy (COWS): Aiming to redistribute wealth by way of higher taxes imposed on those whose incomes are above average, COWS contends that “it is important that state government be able to harness fair contribution from all parts of society – including corporations and the wealthy.”
    Change America Now: Formed in December 2006, Change America Now describes itself as “an independent political organization created to educate citizens on the failed policies of the Republican Congress and to contrast that record of failure with the promise offered by a Democratic agenda.”
    Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington: This group litigates and brings ethics charges against “government officials who sacrifice the common good to special interests” and “betray the public trust.” Almost all of its targets are Republicans.
    Coalition for an International Criminal Court: This group seeks to subordinate American criminal-justice procedures to those of an international court.
    Common Cause: This organization aims to bring about campaign-finance reform, pursue media reform resembling the Fairness Doctrine, and cut military budgets in favor of increased social-welfare and environmental spending.
    Constitution Project: This organization seeks to challenge the legality of military commissions; end the detainment of “enemy combatants”; condemn government surveillance of terrorists; and limit the President’s executive privileges.
    Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund: Defenders of Wildlife opposes oil exploration in Alaska’s Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It condemns logging, ranching, mining, and even the use of recreational motorized vehicles as activities that are destructive to the environment.
    Democracy Alliance: This self-described “liberal organization” aims to raise $200 million to develop a funding clearinghouse for leftist groups. Soros is a major donor to this group.
    Democracy 21: This group is a staunch supporter of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold Act.
    Democracy Now!: Democracy Now! was created in 1996 by WBAI radio news director Amy Goodman and four partners to provide “perspectives rarely heard in the U.S. corporate-sponsored media,” i.e., the views of radical and foreign journalists, left and labor activists, and ideological foes of capitalism.
    Democratic Justice Fund: DJF opposes the Patriot Act and most efforts to restrict or regulate immigration into the United States — particularly from countries designated by the State Department as “terrorist nations.”
    Democratic Party: Soros’ funding activities are devoted largely to helping the Democratic Party solidify its power base. In a November 2003 interview, Soros stated that defeating President Bush in 2004 “is the central focus of my life” … “a matter of life and death.” He pledged to raise $75 million to defeat Bush, and personally donated nearly a third of that amount to anti-Bush organizations. “America under Bush,” he said, “is a danger to the world, and I’m willing to put my money where my mouth is.”
    Demos: This organization lobbies federal and state policymakers to “addres[s] the economic insecurity and inequality that characterize American society today”; promotes “ideas for reducing gaps in wealth, income and political influence”; and favors tax hikes for the wealthy.
    Drum Major Institute: This group describes itself as “a non-partisan, non-profit think tank generating the ideas that fuel the progressive movement,” with the ultimate aim of persuading “policymakers and opinion-leaders” to take steps that advance its vision of “social and economic justice.”
    Earthjustice: This group seeks to place severe restrictions on how U.S. land and waterways may be used. It opposes most mining and logging initiatives, commercial fishing businesses, and the use of motorized vehicles in undeveloped areas.
    Economic Policy Institute: This organization believes that “government must play an active role in protecting the economically vulnerable, ensuring equal opportunity, and improving the well-being of all Americans.”
    Electronic Privacy Information Center: This organization has been a harsh critic of the USA PATRIOT Act and has joined the American Civil Liberties Union in litigating two cases calling for the FBI “to publicly release or account for thousands of pages of information about the government’s use of PATRIOT Act powers.”
    Ella Baker Center for Human Rights: Co-founded by the revolutionary communist Van Jones, this anti-poverty organization claims that “decades of disinvestment in our cities” — compounded by “excessive, racist policing and over-incarceration” — have “led to despair and homelessness.”
    EMILY’s List: This political network raises money for Democratic female political candidates who support unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
    Energy Action Coalition: Founded in 2004, this group describes itself as “a coalition of 50 youth-led environmental and social justice groups working together to build the youth clean energy and climate movement.” For EAC, this means “dismantling oppression” according to its principles of environmental justice.
    Equal Justice USA: This group claims that America’s criminal-justice system is plagued by “significant race and class biases,” and thus seeks to promote major reforms.
    Fair Immigration Reform Movement: This is the open-borders arm of the Center for Community Change.
    Faithful America: This organization promotes the redistribution of wealth, an end to enhanced interrogation procedures vis a vis prisoners-of-war, the enactment of policies to combat global warming, and the creation of a government-run heath care system.
    Feminist Majority: Characterizing the United States as an inherently sexist nation, this group focuses on “advancing the legal, social and political equality of women with men, countering the backlash to women’s advancement, and recruiting and training young feminists to encourage future leadership for the feminist movement in the United States.”
    Four Freedoms Fund: This organization was designed to serve as a conduit through which large foundations could fund state-based open-borders organizations more flexibly and quickly.
    Free Exchange on Campus: This organization was created solely to oppose the efforts of one individual, David Horowitz, and his campaign to have universities adopt an “Academic Bill of Rights,” as well as todenounce Horowitz’s 2006 book The Professors. Member organizations of FEC include Campus Progress (a project of the Center for American Progress); the American Association of University Professors; theAmerican Civil Liberties Union; People For the American Way; the United States Student Association; theCenter for Campus Free Speech; the American Library Association; Free Press; and the National Association of State Public Interest Research Groups.
    Free Press: This “media reform” organization has worked closely with many notable leftists and such organizations as Media Matters for America, Air America Radio, Global Exchange, Code Pink, Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting, the Revolutionary Communist Party, Mother Jones magazine, and Pacifica Radio.
    Funding Exchange: Dedicated to the concept of philanthropy as a vehicle for social change, this organization pairs leftist donors and foundations with likeminded groups and activists who are dedicated to bringing about their own version of “progressive” change and social justice. Many of these grantees assume that American society is rife with racism, discrimination, exploitation, and inequity and needs to be overhauled via sustained education, activism, and social agitation.
    Gamaliel Foundation: Modeling its tactics on those of the radical Sixties activist Saul Alinsky, this group takes a strong stand against current homeland security measures and immigration restrictions.
    Gisha: Center for the Legal Protection of Freedom of Movement: This anti-Israel organization seeks to help Palestinians “exercise their right to freedom of movement.”
    Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect: This group contends that when a state proves either unable or unwilling to protect civilians from mass atrocities occurring within its borders, it is the responsibility of the international community to intervene — peacefully if possible, but with military force if necessary.
    Global Exchange: Established in 1988 by pro-Castro radical Medea Benjamin, this group consistently condemns America’s foreign policy, business practices, and domestic life. Following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, Global Exchange advised Americans to examine “the root causes of resentment against the United States in the Arab world — from our dependence on Middle Eastern oil to our biased policy towards Israel.”
    Grantmakers Without Borders: GWB tends to be very supportive of leftist environmental, anti-war, and civil rights groups. It is also generally hostile to capitalism, which it deems one of the chief “political, economic, and social systems” that give rise to a host of “social ills.”
    Green For All: This group was created by Van Jones to lobby for federal climate, energy, and economic policy initiatives.
    Health Care for America Now: This group supports a “single payer” model where the federal government would be in charge of financing and administering the entire U.S. healthcare system.
    Human Rights Campaign: The largest “lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender” lobbying group in the United States, HRC supports political candidates and legislation that will advance the LGBT agenda. Historically, HRC has most vigorously championed HIV/AIDS-related legislation, “hate crime” laws, the abrogation of the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, and the legalization of gay marriage.
    Human Rights First: This group supports open borders and the rights of illegal aliens; charges that the Patriot Act severely erodes Americans’ civil liberties; has filed amicus curiae briefs on behalf of terror suspect Jose Padilla; and deplores the Guantanamo Bay detention facilities.
    Human Rights Watch: This group directs a disproportionate share of its criticism at the United States and Israel. It opposes the death penalty in all cases, and supports open borders and amnesty for illegal aliens.
    I’lam: This anti-Israel NGO seeks “to develop and empower the Arab media and to give voice to Palestinian issues.”
    Immigrant Defense Project: To advance the cause of illegal immigrants, the IDP provides immigration law backup support and counseling to New York defense attorneys and others who represent or assist immigrants in criminal justice and immigration systems, as well as to immigrants themselves.
    Immigrant Legal Resource Center: This group claims to have helped gain amnesty for some three million illegal aliens in the U.S., and in the 1980s was part of the sanctuary movement which sought to grant asylum to refugees from the failed Communist states of Central America.
    Immigrant Workers Citizenship Project: This open-borders organization advocates mass immigration to the U.S.
    Immigration Advocates Network: This alliance of immigrant-rights groups seeks to “increase access to justice for low-income immigrants and strengthen the capacity of organizations serving them.”
    Immigration Policy Center: IPC is an advocate of open borders and contends that the massive influx of illegal immigrants into America is due to U.S. government policy, since “the broken immigration system […] spurs unauthorized immigration in the first place.”
    Independent Media Center: This Internet-based, news and events bulletin board represents an invariably leftist, anti-capitalist perspective and serves as a mouthpiece for anti-globalization/anti-America themes.
    Independent Media Institute: IMI administers the SPIN Project (Strategic Press Information Network), which provides leftist organizations with “accessible and affordable strategic communications consulting, training, coaching, networking opportunities and concrete tools” to help them “achieve their social justice goals.”
    Institute for America’s Future: IAF supports socialized medicine, increased government funding for education, and the creation of an infrastructure “to ensure that the voice of the progressive majority is heard.”
    Institute for New Economic Thinking: Seeking to create a new worldwide “economic paradigm,” this organization is staffed by numerous individuals who favor government intervention in national economies, and who view capitalism as a flawed system.
    Institute for Policy Studies: This think tank has long supported Communist and anti-American causes around the world. Viewing capitalism as a breeding ground for “unrestrained greed,” IPS seeks to provide a corrective to “unrestrained markets and individualism.” Professing an unquestioning faith in the righteousness of the United Nations, it aims to bring American foreign policy under UN control.
    Institute for Public Accuracy: This anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-Israel organization sponsored actor Sean Penn’s celebrated visit to Baghdad in 2002. It also sponsored visits to Iraq by Democratic Congressmen Nick Rahall and former Democrat Senator James Abourezk
    Institute for Women’s Policy Research: This group views the U.S. as a nation rife with discrimination against women, and publishes research to draw attention to this alleged state of affairs. It also advocates unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, stating that “access to abortion is essential to the economic well-being of women and girls.”
    International Crisis Group: One of this organization’s leading figures is its Mideast Director, Robert Malley, who was President Bill Clinton’s Special Assistant for Arab-Israeli Affairs. His analysis of the Mideast conflict is markedly pro-Palestinian.
    J Street: This anti-Israel group warns that Israel’s choice to take military action to stop Hamas’ terrorist attacks “will prove counter-productive and only deepen the cycle of violence in the region”
    Jewish Funds for Justice: This organization views government intervention and taxpayer funding as crucial components of enlightened social policy. It seeks to redistribute wealth from Jewish donors to low-income communities “to combat the root causes of domestic economic and social injustice.” By JFJ’s reckoning, chief among those root causes are the inherently negative by-products of capitalism – most notably racism and “gross economic inequality.”
    Joint Victory Campaign 2004: Founded by George Soros and Harold Ickes, this group was a major fundraising entity for Democrats during the 2004 election cycle. It collected contributions (including large amounts from Soros personally) and disbursed them to two other groups, America Coming Together and the Media Fund, which also worked on behalf of Democrats.
    Justice at Stake: This coalition calls for judges to be appointed by nonpartisan, independent commissions in a process known as “merit selection,” rather than elected by the voting public.
    LatinoJustice PRLDF: This organization supports bilingual education, the racial gerrymandering of voting districts, and expanded rights for illegal aliens.
    Lawyers Committee for Civil Rights Under Law: This group views America as an unremittingly racist nation; uses the courts to mandate race-based affirmative action preferences in business and academia; has filed briefs against the Department of Homeland Security’s efforts to limit the wholesale granting of green cards and to identify potential terrorists; condemns the Patriot Act; and calls on Americans to “recognize the contribution” of illegal aliens.
    League of United Latin American Citizens: This group views America as a nation plagued by “an alarming increase in xenophobia and anti-Hispanic sentiment”; favors racial preferences; supports the legalization of illegal Hispanic aliens; opposes military surveillance of U.S. borders; opposes making English America’s official language; favors open borders; and rejects anti-terrorism legislation like the Patriot Act.
    League of Women Voters Education Fund: The League supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; supports “motor-voter” registration, which allows anyone with a driver’s license to become a voter, regardless of citizenship status; and supports tax hikes and socialized medicine.
    League of Young Voters: This organization seeks to “empowe[r] young people nationwide” to “participate in the democratic process and create progressive political change on the local, state and national level[s].”
    Lynne Stewart Defense Committee: IRS records indicate that Soros’s Open Society Institute made a September 2002 grant of $20,000 to this organization. Stewart was the criminal-defense attorney who was later convicted for abetting her client, the “blind sheik” Omar Abdel Rahman, in terrorist activities connected with his Islamic Group.
    Machsom Watch: This organization describes itself as “a movement of Israeli women, peace activists from all sectors of Israeli society, who oppose the Israeli occupation and the denial of Palestinians’ rights to move freely in their land.”
    MADRE: This international women’s organization deems America the world’s foremost violator of human rights. As such, it seeks to “communicat[e] the real-life impact of U.S. policies on women and families confronting violence, poverty and repression around the world,” and to “demand alternatives to destructive U.S. policies.” It also advocates unrestricted access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
    Malcolm X Grassroots Movement: This group views the U.S. as a nation replete with racism and discrimination against blacks; seeks to establish an independent black nation in the southeastern United States; and demands reparations for slavery.
    Massachusetts Immigrant and Refugee Advocacy Coalition: This group calls for the expansion of civil rights and liberties for illegal aliens; laments that illegal aliens in America are commonly subjected to “worker exploitation”; supports tuition-assistance programs for illegal aliens attending college; and characterizes the Patriot Act as a “very troubling” assault on civil liberties.
    Media Fund: Soros played a major role in creating this group, whose purpose was to conceptualize, produce, and place political ads on television, radio, print, and the Internet.
    Media Matters for America: This organization is a “web-based, not-for-profit … progressive research and information center” seeking to “systematically monitor a cross-section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation.” The group works closely with the Soros-backed Center for American Progress, and is heavily funded by Democracy Alliance, of which Soros is a major financier.
    Mercy Corps: Vis a vis the Arab-Israeli conflict, Mercy Corps places all blame for Palestinian poverty and suffering directly on Israel.
    Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund: This group advocates open borders, free college tuition for illegal aliens, lowered educational standards to accommodate Hispanics, and voting rights for criminals. In MALDEF’s view, supporters of making English the official language of the United States are “motivated by racism and anti-immigrant sentiments,” while advocates of sanctions against employers reliant on illegal labor seek to discriminate against “brown-skinned people.”
    Meyer, Suozzi, English and Klein, PC: This influential defender of Big Labor is headed by Democrat operativeHarold Ickes.
    Midwest Academy: This entity trains radical activists in the tactics of direct action, targeting, confrontation, and intimidation.
    Migration Policy Institute: This group seeks to create “a North America with gradually disappearing border controls … with permanent migration remaining at moderate levels.”
    Military Families Speak Out: This group ascribes the U.S. invasion of Iraq to American imperialism and lust for oil.
    Missourians Organizing for Reform and Empowerment: This group is the rebranded Missouri branch of the now-defunct, pro-socialist, community organization ACORN.
    MoveOn.org: This Web-based organization supports Democratic political candidates through fundraising, advertising, and get-out-the-vote drives.
    Ms. Foundation for Women: This group laments what it views as the widespread and enduring flaws of American society: racism, sexism, homophobia, and the violation of civil rights and liberties. It focuses its philanthropy on groups that promote affirmative action for women, unfettered access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, amnesty for illegal aliens, and big government generally.
    NARAL Pro-Choice America: This group supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand, and works to elect pro-abortion Democrats.
    NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund: The NAACP supports racial preferences in employment and education, as well as the racial gerrymandering of voting districts. Underpinning its support for race preferences is the fervent belief that white racism in the United States remains an intractable, largely undiminished, phenomenon.
    The Nation Institute: This nonprofit entity sponsors leftist conferences, fellowships, awards for radical activists, and journalism internships.
    National Abortion Federation: This group opposes any restrictions on abortion at either the state or federal levels, and champions the introduction of unrestricted abortion into developing regions of the world.
    National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty: This group was established in 1976 as the first “fully staffed national organization exclusively devoted to abolishing capital punishment.”
    National Committee for Responsive Philanthropy: This group depicts the United States as a nation in need of dramatic structural change financed by philanthropic organizations. It overwhelmingly promotes grant-makers and grantees with leftist agendas, while criticizing their conservative counterparts.
    National Committee for Voting Integrity: This group opposes “the implementation of proof of citizenship and photo identification requirements for eligible electors in American elections as the means of assuring election integrity.”
    National Council for Research on Women: This group supports big government, high taxes, military spending cuts, increased social welfare spending, and the unrestricted right to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
    National Council of La Raza: This group lobbies for racial preferences, bilingual education, stricter hate-crime laws, mass immigration, and amnesty for illegal aliens.
    National Council of Women’s Organizations: This group views the United States as a nation rife with injustice against girls and women. It advocates high levels of spending for social welfare programs, and supports race and gender preferences for minorities and women in business and academia.
    National Immigration Forum: Opposing the enforcement of present immigration laws, this organization urges the American government to “legalize” en masse all illegal aliens currently in the United States who have no criminal records, and to dramatically increase the number of visas available for those wishing to migrate to the U.S. The Forum is particularly committed to opening the borders to unskilled, low-income workers, and immediately making them eligible for welfare and social service programs.
    National Immigration Law Center: This group seeks to win unrestricted access to government-funded social welfare programs for illegal aliens.
    National Lawyers Guild: This group promotes open borders; seeks to weaken America’s intelligence-gathering agencies; condemns the Patriot Act as an assault on civil liberties; rejects capitalism as an unviable economic system; has rushed to the defense of convicted terrorists and their abettors; and generally opposes all U.S. foreign policy positions, just as it did during the Cold War when it sided with the Soviets.
    National Organization for Women: This group advocates the unfettered right to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; seeks to “eradicate racism, sexism and homophobia” from American society; attacks Christianity and traditional religious values; and supports gender-based preferences for women.
    National Partnership for Women and Families: This organization supports race- and sex-based preferences in employment and education. It also advocates for the universal “right” of women to undergo taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand at any stage of pregnancy and for any reason.
    National Priorities Project: This group supports government-mandated redistribution of wealth — through higher taxes and greater expenditures on social welfare programs. NPP exhorts the government to redirect a significant portion of its military funding toward public education, universal health insurance, environmentalist projects, and welfare programs.
    National Public Radio: Founded in 1970 with 90 public radio stations as charter members, NPR is today a loose network of more than 750 U.S. radio stations across the country, many of which are based on college and university campuses. (source)
    National Security Archive Fund: This group collects and publishes declassified documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act to a degree that compromises American national security and the safety of intelligence agents.
    National Women’s Law Center: This group supports taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; lobbies against conservative judicial appointees; advocates increased welfare spending to help low-income mothers; and favors higher taxes for the purpose of generating more funds for such government programs as Medicaid, food stamps, welfare, foster care, health care, child-support enforcement, and student loans.
    Natural Resources Defense Council: One of the most influential environmentalist lobbying groups in the United States, the Council claims a membership of one million people.
    New America Foundation: This organization uses policy papers, media articles, books, and educational events to influence public opinion on such topics as healthcare, environmentalism, energy policy, the Mideast conflict, global governance, and much more.
    New Israel Fund: This organization gives support to NGOs that regularly produce reports accusing Israel of human-rights violations and religious persecution.
    NewsCorpWatch: A project of Media Matters For America, NewsCorpWatch was established with the help of a $1 million George Soros grant to Media Matters.
    Pacifica Foundation: This entity owns and operates Pacifica Radio, awash from its birth with the socialist-Marxist rhetoric of class warfare and hatred for capitalism.
    Peace and Security Funders Group: This is an association of more than 60 foundations that give money to leftist anti-war and environmentalist causes. Its members tend to depict America as the world’s chief source of international conflict, environmental destruction, and economic inequalities.
    Peace Development Fund: In PDF’s calculus, the United States needs a massive overhaul of its social and economic institutions. “Recently,” explains PDF, “we have witnessed the negative effects of neo-liberalism and the globalization of capitalism, the de-industrialization of the U.S. and the growing gap between the rich and poor …”
    People for the American Way: This group opposes the Patriot Act, anti-terrorism measures generally, and the allegedly growing influence of the “religious right.”
    People Improving Communities Through Organizing: This group uses Alinsky-style organizing tactics to advance the doctrines of the religious left.
    Physicians for Human Rights: This group is selectively and disproportionately critical of the United States and Israel in its condemnations of human rights violations.
    Physicians for Social Responsibility: This is an anti-U.S.-military organization that also embraces the tenets of radical environmentalism.
    Planned Parenthood: This group is the largest abortion provider in the United States and advocates taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand.
    Ploughshares Fund: This public grantmaking foundation opposes America’s development of a missile defense system, and contributes to many organizations that are highly critical of U.S. foreign policies and military ventures.
    Prepare New York: This group supported the proposed construction of a Muslim Community Center near Ground Zero in lower Manhattan – a project known as the Cordoba Initiative, headed by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.
    Presidential Climate Action Project: PCAP’s mission is to create a new 21st-century economy, completely carbon-free and based largely on renewable energy. A key advisor to the organization is the revolutionary communist Van Jones.
    Prison Moratorium Project: This initiative was created in 1995 for the express purpose of working for the elimination of all prisons in the United States and the release of all inmates. Reasoning from the premise that incarceration is never an appropriate means of dealing with crime, it deems American society’s inherent inequities the root of all criminal behavior.
    Progressive Change Campaign Committee: This organization works “to elect bold progressive candidates to federal office and to help [them] and their campaigns save money, work smarter, and win more often.”
    Progressive States Network: PSN’s mission is to “pass progressive legislation in all fifty states by providing coordinated research and strategic advocacy tools to forward-thinking state legislators.”
    Project Vote: This is the voter-mobilization arm of the Soros-funded ACORN. A persistent pattern of lawlessness and corruption has followed ACORN/Project Vote activities over the years.
    Pro Publica: Claiming that “investigative journalism is at risk,” this group aims to remedy this lacuna in news publishing by “expos[ing] abuses of power and betrayals of the public trust by government, business, and other institutions, using the moral force of investigative journalism to spur reform through the sustained spotlighting of wrongdoing.”
    Proteus Fund: This foundation directs its philanthropy toward a number of radical leftwing organizations.
    Public Citizen Foundation: Public Citizen seeks increased government intervention and litigation against corporations — a practice founded on the notion that American corporations, like the capitalist system of which they are a part, are inherently inclined toward corruption.
    Public Justice Center: Viewing America as a nation rife with injustice and discrimination, this organization engages in legislative and policy advocacy to promote “systemic change for the disenfranchised.”
    Rebuild and Renew America Now (a.k.a. Unity ’09): Spearheaded by MoveOn.org and overseen by longtime activist Heather Booth, this coalition was formed to facilitate the passage of President Obama’s “historic” $3.5 trillion budget for fiscal year 2010.
    Res Publica: Seeking to advance far-left agendas in places all around the world, RP specializes in “E-advocacy,” or web-based movement-building.
    Secretary of State Project: This project was launched in July 2006 as an independent “527” organization devoted to helping Democrats get elected to the office of Secretary of State in selected swing, or battleground, states.
    Sentencing Project: Asserting that prison-sentencing patterns are racially discriminatory, this initiative advocates voting rights for felons.
    Social Justice Leadership: This organization seeks to transform an allegedly inequitable America into a “just society” by means of “a renewed social-justice movement.”
    Shadow Democratic Party: This is an elaborate network of non-profit activist groups organized by George Soros and others to mobilize resources — money, get-out-the-vote drives, campaign advertising, and policy iniatives — to elect Democratic candidates and guide the Democratic Party towards the left.
    Sojourners: This evangelical Christian ministry preaches radical leftwing politics. During the 1980s it championed Communist revolution in Central America and chastised U.S. policy-makers for their tendency “to assume the very worst about their Soviet counterparts.” More recently, Sojourners has taken up the cause of environmental activism, opposed welfare reform as a “mean-spirited Republican agenda,” and mounted a defense of affirmative action.
    Southern Poverty Law Center: This organization monitors the activities of what it calls “hate groups” in the United States. It exaggerates the prevalence of white racism directed against American minorities.
    State Voices: This coalition helps independent local activist groups in 22 states work collaboratively on a year-round basis, so as to maximize the impact of their efforts.
    Talking Transition: This was a two-week project launched in early November 2013 to “help shape the transition” to City Hall for the newly elected Democratic mayor of New York, Bill de Blasio.
    Think Progress: This Internet blog “pushes back, daily,” by its own account, against its conservative targets, and seeks to transform “progressive ideas into policy through rapid response communications, legislative action, grassroots organizing and advocacy, and partnerships with other progressive leaders throughout the country and the world.”
    Thunder Road Group: This political consultancy, in whose creation Soros had a hand, coordinates strategy for the Media Fund, America Coming Together, and America Votes.
    Tides Foundation and Tides Center: Tides is a major funder of the radical Left.
    U.S. Public Interest Research Group: This is an umbrella organization of student groups that support leftist agendas.
    Universal Healthcare Action Network: This organization supports a single-payer health care system controlled by the federal government.
    Urban Institute: This research organization favors socialized medicine, expansion of the federal welfare bureaucracy, and tax hikes for higher income-earners.
    USAction Education Fund: USAction lists its priorities as: “fighting the right wing agenda”; “building grassroots political power”; winning “social, racial and economic justice for all”; supporting a system of taxpayer-funded socialized medicine; reversing “reckless tax cuts for millionaires and corporations” which shield the “wealthy” from paying their “fair share”; advocating for “pro-consumer and environmental regulation of corporate abuse”; “strengthening progressive voices on local, state and national issues”; and working to “register, educate and get out the vote … [to] help progressives get elected at all levels of government.”
    Voto Latino: This group seeks to mobilize Latin-Americans to become registered voters and political activists.
    We Are America Alliance: This coalition promotes “increased civic participation by immigrants” in the American political process.
    Working Families Party: An outgrowth of the socialist New Party, WFP seeks to help push the Democratic Party toward the left.
    World Organization Against Torture: This coalition works closely with groups that condemn Israeli security measures against Palestinian terrorism.
    YWCA World Office, Switzerland: The YWCA opposes abstinence education; supports universal access to taxpayer-funded abortion-on-demand; and opposes school vouchers.

    “Secondary” or “Indirect” Affiliates of the George Soros Network

    By Discover The Networks

    In addition to those organizations that are funded directly by George Soros and his Open Society Institute (OSI), there are also numerous “secondary” or “indirect” affiliates of the Soros network. These include organizations which do not receive direct funding from Soros and OSI, but which are funded by one or more organizations that do.

    Center for Progressive Leadership: Funded by the Soros-bankrolled Democracy Alliance, this anti-capitalist organization is dedicated to training future leftist political leaders.
    John Adams Project:This project of the American Civil Liberties Union was accused of: (a) having hired investigators to photograph CIA officers thought to have been involved in enhanced interrogations of terror suspects detained in Guantanamo, and then (b) showing the photos to the attorneys of those suspects, some of whom were senior al-Qaeda operatives.
    Moving Ideas Network (MIN): This coalition of more than 250 leftwing activist groups is a partner organization of the Soros-backed Center for American Progress. MIN was originally a project of the Soros-backed American Prospect and, as such, received indirect funding from the Open Society Institute. In early 2006, The American Prospect relinquished control of the Moving Ideas Network.
    New Organizing Institute: Created by the Soros-funded MoveOn.org, this group “trains young, technology-enabled political organizers to work for progressive campaigns and organizations.”
    Think Progress: This “project” of the American Progress Action Fund, which is a “sister advocacy organization”of the Soros-funded Center for American Progress and Campus Progress, seeks to transform “progressive ideas into policy through rapid response communications, legislative action, grassroots organizing and advocacy, and partnerships with other progressive leaders throughout the country and the world.”
    Vote for Change: Coordinated by the political action committee of the Soros-funded MoveOn.org, Vote for Change was a group of 41 musicians and bands that performed concerts in several key election “battleground”states during October 2004, to raise money in support of Democrat John Kerry’s presidential bid.
    Working Families Party: Created in 1998 to help push the Democratic Party toward the left, this front group for the Soros-funded ACORN functions as a political party that promotes ACORN-friendly candidates.

  363. And after that, here is one of the antidotes:

    Published on Apr 3, 2016
    “On this … Sunday, April 3 edition of the Alex Jones Show, we cover the Donald Trump rallies in Wisconsin as Infowars reporters Rob Dew, Richard Reeves, Kit Daniels and Travis Knight report live from the state. In Wausau, Wis., the local, mainstream media decided to focus on a single protester despite the the extremely large crowd there for Trump. We also look into how President Obama is forcing Border Patrol agents to release illegals into the country. The Border Patrol Union recently endorsed Trump for president. ”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U507tp8NfgU

  364. Did you forget the short sale of ten billion US dollars worth of pounds sterling on Black Wednesday 1992, or was that a peccadillo not worthy of the list above of his devil’s work?

  366. Btw. He’ll have to die soon and like the rest of us, he can’t take it with him. His heirs and successors will squander what’s left. Always look on the bright side of life.

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