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What will this week bring for us all? More revelations about the corruption of our Governments and political establishments undoubtedly. More reasons for a mistrust of Islam’s involvement in British politics and social structures to become mainstream.
I hope we will hear from Verity and Frank. I’ve emailed both, but I think some of you are in closer contact than I am.
Minimum wage and the benefit system: discuss.
I was never in favour of mimimum wage as I believed market forces should prevail. However our benefit system drastically distorts market forces and effectively subsidizes company wage bills at the expense of the tax payer.
I do not believe that people working a full week should need to receive benefits but the system conspires to encourage employers to pay low wages and employees to work less than a full week. The result is that creating jobs does not necessarily reduce benefits.
Do your readers have suggestions as to how we can create jobs and reduce the benefits bill?
Malfleur – 00:55
“someone who likes to drink cognac for breakfast cannot be ALL bad…”
But do you want them driving to work, let alone running a meeting?
@RobertC 23rd, – 14:17
But wasn’t Winston said to have chaired meetings whilst under the affluence of incohol?
Ostrich (occasionally) June 23rd, 2014 – 15:56
“But wasn’t Winston said to have chaired meetings whilst under the affluence of incohol?”
And even on occasion from alcohol.
Such friendly people:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
Bumpkin @ 14:08
The State, or to use the more progressive term, the society, and it’s welfare arm shouldn’t keep people coupled to the taxpayers’ purse forever, rather it should listen to Benjamin Franklin: The best way to get people out of poverty is to make them uncomfortable in it.
Only an insane individual could argue the minimum wage doesn’t destroy jobs, the truth is it raises the cost of output all other things being equal, and in the end the wealth creation moves where the cost of it is the lowest, hence not only low paid jobs are lost, skilled jobs go as well.
RobertC @ 14:17
Weird this, but Baron knew someone who couldn’t drive when sober, was an excellent driver after the consumption of about half a litre of vodka, his reactions were as normal as yours or Baron’s. In a similar vein, anf you may find it totally ridiculous, at a point in his life Baron was so dependant on nicotine he couldn’t talk, his tongue would be interfering, if he didn’t get a doze of the drug. And his job was in large part that of talking. No longer is this the case, thanks God.
Baron, 19:00
Just had to say, thank you Baron, just had a good chuckle at that!
Baron – 19:00
Don’t forget this:
Jean-Claude Juncker, Luxembourg PM and Head Euro-Zone Finance Minister says “When it becomes serious, you have to lie”
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2011/05/jean-claude-juncker-luxembourg-pm-and.html
And a not so weird report:
wiki: On 2 March 1976, George-Brown announced that he was leaving the Labour Party in protest at government legislation which strengthened the closed shop. This announcement was overshadowed when he collapsed and fell into a gutter, having to be helped out by newspaper reporters, which was presumed to be a result of his drinking. The Times the next day printed the opinion that “Lord George-Brown drunk is a better man than the Prime Minister sober.”
Harold Wilson was still in office, and the opinion had been voiced occasionally in private for many years by those who disliked the Labour left.
On Saturday. on the Isle of Dogs, a car was pulled up by the police. The boot was found to be full of postal vote forms. Slowly slowly, catchee monkey. Getting nervous Lutfur?
RobertC @ 20:47
Not a shock for you, Robert, that politicians lie, Baron hopes. It’s arguable, but politics seems to be the one field of human endeavour (if one were to call it that) where people lie, not only get away with it, but are often put on a plinth, admired by those who know they lied. Go figure.
Baron has never voted Labour, but an old friend of his (now no longer with us) would have died for the party if asked. He moved in the higher echelons of the movement when Wilson and Brown were around. He told the barbarian that once, at a local do where the deputy PM was present a tea was served in white plastic cups. Brown also got his, full to the brim with liquid the colour of strong tea. An old lady pensioner sitting next to him picked up his cup by mistake, had a swig, dropped down immediately, had to carted to a hospital. It was pure rum the cup contained. Nothing appeared in the press, whether the old woman ever voted Labour again Baron doesn’t know.
stephen maybery @ 21:49
A rather optimistic take on what those in charge are willing to do about the postal vote racket in your neck of the woods (and in other places the newcomers inhabit), stephen, just watch the press, tell us how long will this remain a story.
One hears about it, then silence – move on, nothing to see here. Not unlike the Birmingham schooling case, it will take time, require very likely a westernised Muslim to raise the alarm. The local Quislings are just too paralysed by the PC rainbow nonsense, impotent to stamp on it decisively, scared to be called wraaasist.
Baron,
I wish I could disagree with your analysis, but I have a presentiment that you are absolutely right. All we can do is hope, come May, the electorate will award UKIP an encore.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/06/23/5-ways-stop-executive-dictatorship
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/10921141/Britains-armed-forces-not-good-enough-to-deal-with-Jihadi-threat-warns-ex-defence-chief.html
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/arnold-ahlert/saddams-wmds-the-lefts-iraq-lies-exposed/
Chuka Umunna MP (Labour) says people vote UKIP because they can’t use the internet. For responses google *#EmailChuka*.
Also: http://www.theweek.co.uk/politics/59103/ukip-youth-strike-back-against-chuka-umunna
Radford NG
On use of the internet, it seems that Mr. Umunna himself is quite adept:
“In April 2013, The Sun stated that in 2007 Umunna, using the Wikipedia Username Socialdemocrat, created and repeatedly edited his own Wikipedia page…”.
(h/t Wikipedia)
Baron has never voted Labour, but an old friend of his (now no longer with us) would have died for the party if asked. He moved in the higher echelons of the movement when Wilson and Brown were around. He told the barbarian that once, at a local do where the deputy PM was present a tea was served in white plastic cups. Brown also got his, full to the brim with liquid the colour of strong tea. An old lady pensioner sitting next to him picked up his cup by mistake, had a swig, dropped down immediately, had to carted to a hospital. It was pure rum the cup contained. Nothing appeared in the press, whether the old woman ever voted Labour again Baron doesn’t know.
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And for balance
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Many elements of Maudling’s story are present in this vignette: his love of the good life for himself and, especially, for Beryl; his likeability and accessibility to journalists who, as a result, long protected him; his ever-worsening alcoholism; and his insistence on a style of living which he could not afford and which drove him into dependence on Poulson and others. The fascination of Lewis Baston’s excellent study lies largely in the unfolding inevitability of this morality tale. The movement from the young Maudling, working genially alongside Iain Macleod and Enoch Powell in the late 1940s – Rab Butler’s three brilliant young men, all potential prime ministers – to the later figure, greedy, corrupt, drinking himself to death, his reputation in ruins, has an almost tragic cadence. (Since it is a tale in which the disclosure of interests is much to the point, I should add that Lewis Baston was once one of my own students.)
telemachus @ 07:28
Revealing and accurate, telemachus, but not necessarily balancing Baron’s tale. As it happens the blue veined barbarian rather liked Brown, not what he stood for, but as a personality in spite of his liking for alcohol, politics today no longer incubates men with an admirable mix of brilliance cum idiosyncrasy.
`George Brown drunk is a better man than Harold Wilson sober.`
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tired_and_emotional
Spent yesterday afternoon at Moorfields Eye Clinic. The kindness and professionalism of the staff could not have been surpassed. The waiting room was crowded, 90% of those waiting for treatment were foreign. In Norfolk an old lady of 95 was taken of her local doctors list because of over crowding by immigrants. Charity begins at home and a lot of those resident here and clogging up the surgeries should go back there. And still the damned politicians ignore what is happening. Across the Thames from Parliament, at St. Thomas’s there is a special facility for M P’s, you can bet none of that lot will be told to go elsewhere, which is why nothing will be done about this problem. Let them take aspirin as Marie Antoinette might have said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2666155/EastEnders-white-says-BBC-Trust-boss-calls-authentic-portrayal-modern-Britain.html
Sooo….
Lets make it more like the current East End. That would be the area around Tower Hamlets/The Isle of Dogs.
Where voting fraud is endemic.
Where little sheetheads mount Muslim patrols and abuse any woman not wearing a bag on their heads and any man that looks a bit gay. Plus insisting they throw away any booze they might be carrying and force shopkeepers to stop selling alcohol.
Where young girls (5-6-7) disappear overnight and come back ‘cut’
Where young girls disappear overnight and never come back, unless they can bring their elderly ‘husband’ with them.
Yep, Biased Bollox Corporation, bring on the real East End and watch the ethnics riot as the truth is exposed about their vile lifestyles and beliefs. Step back in disbelief as community adhesion breaks down as the metropolitan elite realise just what they have done.
That the BBC is a saturated sump of socialism is known to all here, but the poison has now leaked even into Radio 3’s Composer of the Week. Yesterday Donald MacCloud and his guest were almost visibly wincing as together they mocked the British people at home for their reactions to Germans in the street or at their place of work, and of course we didn’t have to wait long before the first grenade in the marxist armoury was lobbed into the discussion – yes, back in those dark days we were xenophobic. What uncivilized peasants we were for kicking the odd dachshund in the street, or raising an eyebrow if our waiter with the funny accent said he was Swiss. If only it all wasn’t so shameful for poor Donald and his expert friend, what a laugh they could have had about it all. No thought at all that maybe if you were an Englishman in Berlin waltzing down the Ku’damm with your British Bulldog or English Sheepdog on a leash beside you, you might have had a bit of friendly jostling or sparring with the locals. No thought given to the fact that if you were a German in Britain, internment still looks to me like the nicer alternative to what else was on offer. Our best men went and fought, all suffered unimaginably and those that didn’t die were broken forever, and those bolshy bastards who, as in the Second War, didn’t go and didn’t fight now have the whip hand over every part of our lives. I don’t expect these sanctimonious self-congratulatory shits ever to be slapped by reality, but how on earth do they maintain the fiction to themselves and others that they are nice??!!??
Sorry – in my ire I didn’t say above that the subject of the programme was Elgar and musical life in England during WWI.
Unless you’ve seen it already, Malfleur, you should like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysQl4aW7tME&feature=youtu.be
Thanks Redford, that ‘tired and emotional’ is a euphemism for drunkenness Baron didn’t know, perhaps sensed it, but only vaguely, it somehow didn’t register, not like ‘Ugandan affairs’, also coined by the Private Eye.
stephen maybery @ 10:06
You couldn’t be righter, stephen, the burden on social services has touched a tipping point, on occasions, the new and unplanned demand also adds insult to injury.
Baron is himself an immigrant, came over in the sixties, but worked his time slot to the full, paid his taxes, never took a penny of the taxpayers money.
Some years aho when he was diagnosed with MRSA, (wrongly as it turned out, his and someone else’s blood samples got mixed up), he asked his GP surgery to provide him with transport, he had to undergo an operation in a distant hospital. He couldn’t drive himself because he wasn’t allowed to drive after the op, his wife doesn’t drive, public taxes refused to take him because of the MRSA affliction (Baron had to tell anyone in the public sector he had MRSA, that’s the rule), those of his friends who could have helped were more feeble and creaky than him, he didn’t want to expose them to the MRSA virus).
The surgery refused to arrange it, said it wasn’t their concern because the operation was private. Still , they did arrange a lift to another hospital for a recent arrival to these shores. When Baron asked why two patients assigned to the same GP surgery were served from two different menus he was told the other patient didn’t speak any English, had to be provided with a taxi operated by his compatriot, who could speak English and, obviously, the native tongue of the patient.
This may sound like bratty whinging on Baron’s part, the GP staff wwere very polite, sympathetic, bla bl a about it, but it really was an almost insurmountable problem for the barbarian. (In the end, a taxi driver whom Baron had known for decades (then already retired) volunteered to take him).
Irishboy @ 11:14
Not a direct substitute for Radio3, but it’s Classic FM Baron listens to both at home and in his car. It’s a private business, no directive to be impartial yet they couldn’t be more objective if they tried, the presenters stay away from any bias, news summaries are short, often differ from what you hear on any of the BBC channels, and that includes the local BBC.
This is not to suggest you should switch, Irishboy, merely that Baron has got so fed up with the agitprop monstrosity, he cannot stand them wholesale, whatever the programme.
Baron at 11:23
Thank you for the link to Bill Whittle’s Firewall piece, though “like” is not the verb I would use about it…
Mr. Whittle, following some other leading patriot broadcasters in the United States, has reached the conclusion, no doubt reluctantly, that president Obama is a traitor leading a treasonous administration.
As you will know, I concur and I deeply regret, as much out of concern for our own country as for his, that there does not seem to be political group in American which is ready, willing and able to do anything about it.
I would also argue that treason is increasingly widespread in western countries,
Personally, I believe Bill Whittle is a little hard on Benedict Arnold. In April or early May 1775, after Concord Fight, when he joined with Ethan Allen to capture the cannons at Fort Ticonderoga, he was with the colonists who opposed the government. At that time, the American nation was not yet born and loyalties were understandably changeable. Most of the leaders of the colonist militia still believed it neither thinkable nor desirable to sever relations with the mother country.
In 2014 loyalties are, or ought to be, clear cut; and treason more clearly identifiable.
Now, at the end of May a secret international meeting was held in Copenhagen. Only a partial list of the attendees has been published. The meeting was not mentioned on the Wall at the time.
Why, Baron, do I think that you might like this? Why is a senior member of Her Majesty’s loyal opposition taking such a voluminous file of papers into the hotel at which the meeting was to be held? Why has no one asked him to account publicly for the matters addressed at the meeting and his own positions, loyalties, obligations assumed in that connection? :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JBKbxyiRp8
Baron – 12.24
Yes, that’s good advice though I was only listening to hear some rare Elgar that I’d never before heard. Anyway, You Tube is the place to hear the best classical artists, all dead of course. Who can hold a candle to Caruso, Kreisler, McCormack, Rubenstein et al? Their individual brilliance allows them to be wholly egoless and what joy, comfort, inspiration, excitement and consolation they still bring.
Just heard a snippet of that vile O’Brien on LBC on about the phone hacking verdicts and who did he choose to interview for his expert opinion on the matter in hand? Christ Byrant who claims to have been the victim of phone hacking, but it wasn’t Coulson or Brooks who forced him into displaying photos of his cock on Twitter or wherever was it? The prat did it all on his own, and by the look of him, I rather think he has to do everything on his own . . . . . . And to think the House of Commons not too long ago had men like Ian Gow, Airey Neave and Enoch sitting there representing us. Dear oh dear oh dear.
Andy Coulson found guilty of phone hacking.
Rebekah Wade/Brooks and 5 others found not guilty on all charges.
This after all the hype,the closure of the News of the World,a 138 day trial with all that costs:and only Cameron’s press officer is found guilty.
“The BBC understands David Cameron is preparing an apology.”
“…..the verdict that David Cameron dreaded.”
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/06/ breaking-coulson-guilty-in-hacking-trial/
Malfleur @ 13:11
If Balls is a part of the elite team that’s ready to take over the world, Baron will sleep unperturbed tonight. The brainless twit couldn’t even find the right entrance for the venue. No, Malfleur, he isn’t the right man, those wanting to dominate never show their faces, expose themselves to accusations of wrongdoing, carry tons of paper under their arms. You’ll have to look somewhere else, my friend.
And another thing, Malfleur, a rather impressive, quite deep, too, knowledge of the Republic’s history. Baron is amazed, he knows, compared to your familiarity with the subject, FA.
Irishboy @ 13:15
Bad result for the boy, and you’re so right, Baron also cannot stand the sickening Bryant, in the past, just seeing him salivating as he spews out his version of the vomit of progressive trash makes one despair for humanity. How on earth has he got elected? The system must be utterly corrupt, if a narcissistic, self indulging jerk like him gets in.
Baron’s lucky, he’s traveling again, missed the gay cretin.
Baron’s off to watch with friends the final act of suicide by the England’s squad, but hopes the youngsters will show what England can do when unshackled.
And you know what? A pint here less than a quid. Heaven, pure heaven, if one likes the nectar brewed from hops.
I know very little about Juncker, but if Angela Merkel backs him and Cameron is against, then I would certainly place my bets with the lady.
Radford NG – 13:21
“The BBC understands David Cameron is preparing an apology.”
What sort of an apology: I am sorry for being David Cameron?
Not as sorry as the rest of us are!
Clear Memories – 11:07 ‘Lets make it more like the current East End.’
Yes, here is a good plot line:
Gang of men smashed American tourist’s eye socket with bottle of Jagermeister he was drinking from after wrestling it from his hands
“Shaleem Uddin, 20, Shadhat Hussain, 19, Kamrul Hussain, 22, and Massom Rahman, 22, targeted Mr Hounye when they saw him swigging from a bottle of Jagermeister.”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2667109/Gang-five-men-smashed-American-tourists-eye-socket-bottle-Jagermeister-drinking-wrestling-hands.html
Not quite what the BBC had in mind though!
Army boss warns against further defence cuts http://dailym.ai/1sBwHVh
I suspect the next conflict he suggests
Is a lot closer to home.
Still , drastically reduced transport costs .
The teenage Roma boy beaten to a pulp by a lynch mob and left for dead in a supermarket trolley in the Paris suburbs has a wife and two children in his native Romania, it has been reported.
A woman claiming to be his wife, Pamela, said the attack was motivated by “hatred” towards gipsies and that she has had no news of her husband since the horrific assault on June 13.
She missed out the word thieving
In her description .
We could all have helped her.
She only had to ask.
Other than that she was correct.
by Nick Hallett
Jun 24, 2014 1:51 AM PT
Controversial columnist Yasmin Alibhai-Brown is accused of making a series of racist remarks against white people, even going as far as to say she wants them to be a “lost species”. According to Rod Liddle, when asked in a TV interview what she thought of white people, she responded: “I don’t like them. I want them to be a lost species in a hundred years.”
Writing for the Sun this weekend, Liddle said: “Can you imagine what would happen if you or I said that about black men, or women? The police would get involved, pronto.”
He was writing after taking part in a heated debate against Alibhai-Brown on Channel 4 News last week, in which the columnist said she “loathed” Liddle.
Liddle writes that he attracted her ire, and that of presenter Cathy Newman, because of the subject matter of his new book Selfish, Whining Monkeys.
One is hard put to accept that all we can do with the footballing talent we have, however insignificant it may be, is two defeats and one draw. Change is a must, Harry should be given a chance.
John birch @ 20:27
An individual of skin colour other than white racist? Come on, John, get real.
Baron
I am not sure that the elite which took over your former country were that smart either. But keep calm and carry on watching men running around in shorts kicking the wrong balls.
The important question is what was he agenda in Copenhagen, what were Ed and the others talking about, what are they planning?
And who were the others who did not lose their pass into the Marriott?
Well, I know the answer to the latter question, if to none of the others – the following people are not necessarily ALL brainless twits, Baron and I am sure that, with Peter Mandelson in attendance, they have your best interests at heart:
AUSTRIA
Bronner, Oscar – Publisher, Der STANDARD Verlagsgesellschaft m.b.H.
Rudolf Scholten – CEO, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
BELGIUM
Etienne Davignon – Minister of State
Thomas Leysen – Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group
CANADA
W. Edmund Clark – Group President and CEO, TD Bank Group
Brian Ferguson – President and CEO, Cenovus Energy Inc.
Heather Munroe-Blum – Professor of Medicine and Principal (President) Emerita, McGill University
Jason T. Kenney – Minister of Employment and Social Development
Stephen S. Poloz – Governor, Bank of Canada
Heather M. Reisman – Chair and CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
CHINA
CHN Huang, Yiping Professor of Economics, National School of Development, Peking University
CHN Liu, He Minister, Office of the Central Leading Group on Financial and Economic Affairs
DENMARK
Flemming Besenbacher Chairman, The Carlsberg Group
Søren-Peter Olesen – Professor; Member of the Board of Directors, The Carlsberg Foundation
Henrik Topsøe – Chairman, Haldor Topsøe A/S
Steffen Kragh – President and CEO, Egmont
Jørgen Huno Rasmussen – Chairman of the Board of Trustees, The Lundbeck Foundation
Ulrik Federspiel – Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
FINLAND
Matti Alahuhta – Member of the Board, KONE; Chairman, Aalto University Foundation
Matti Apunen – Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
Henrik Ehrnrooth – Chairman, Caverion Corporation, Otava and Pöyry PLC
Jorma Ollila – Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc; Chairman, Outokumpu Plc
Risto K. Siilasmaa – Chairman of the Board of Directors and Interim CEO, Nokia Corporation
Kari Stadigh – President and CEO, Sampo plc
Björn Wahlroos – Chairman, Sampo plc
FRANCE
Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group
François Baroin – Member of Parliament (UMP); Mayor of Troyes
Nicolas Baverez – Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
Pierre-André de Chalendar – Chairman and CEO, Saint-Gobain
Fleur Pellerin – State Secretary for Foreign Trade
Natalie Nougayrède – Director and Executive Editor, Le Monde
Emmanuel Macron -Deputy Secretary General of the Presidency
GERMANY
Paul M. Achleitner – Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
Josef Ackermann – Former CEO, Deutsche Bank AG
Jörg Asmussen – State Secretary of Labour and Social Affairs
Mathias Döpfner – CEO, Axel Springer SE
Thomas Enders CEO, Airbus Group
Norbert Röttgen – Chairman, Foreign Affairs Committee, German Bundestag
GREECE
George Zanias – Chairman of the Board, National Bank of Greece
Alexandra Mitsotaki – Chair, ActionAid Hellas
Loukas Tsoukalis – President, Hellenic Foundation for European and Foreign Policy
HUNGARY
Gordon Bajnai – Former Prime Minister; Party Leader, Together 2014
ITALY
Franco Bernabè – Chairman, FB Group SRL
John Elkann – Chairman, Fiat S.p.A.
Mario Monti – Senator-for-life; President, Bocconi University
Monica Maggioni – Editor-in-Chief, Rainews24, RAI TV
INTERNATIONAL
Philip M. Breedlove – Supreme Allied Commander Europe
Benoît Coeuré – Member of the Executive Board, European Central Bank
Christine Lagarde – Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
Anders Fogh Rasmussen – Secretary General, NATO
Ahmet Üzümcü – Director-General, Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons
Viviane Reding – Vice President and Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, European Commission
IRELAND
Simon Coveney – Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Peter D. Sutherland – Chairman, Goldman Sachs International; UN Special Representative for Migration
NETHERLANDS
Victor Halberstadt Professor of Economics, Leiden University
Ben van Beurden – CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
Paul J. Scheffer – Author; Professor of European Studies, Tilburg University
Edith Schippers – Minister of Health, Welfare and Sport
Gerrit Zalm – Chairman of the Managing Board, ABN-AMRO Bank N.V.
H.R.H. Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands
NORWAY
Svein Richard Brandtzæg – President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
Leif O. Høegh – Chairman, Höegh Autoliners AS
Westye Høegh – Senior Advisor, Höegh Autoliners AS
Eivind Reiten – Chairman, Klaveness Marine Holding AS
Christian Rynning-Tønnesen – President and CEO, Statkraft AS
Jens Ulltveit-Moe – Founder and CEO, Umoe AS
PORTUGAL
Francisco Pinto Balsemão – Chairman, Impresa SGPS
Paulo Macedo – Minister of Health
Inês de Medeiros – Member of Parliament, Socialist Party
SPAIN
García-Margallo, José Manuel Minister of Foreign Affairs and Cooperation
Juan María Nin Génova – Deputy Chairman and CEO, CaixaBank
H.M. the Queen of Spain
Juan Luis Cebrián – Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
SWEDEN
Carl Bildt – Minister for Foreign Affairs
Buskhe, Håkan President and CEO, Saab AB
Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
Wallenberg, Marcus Chairman of the Board of Directors, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken AB
Lifvendahl, Tove Political Editor in Chief, Svenska Dagbladet
Svanberg, Carl-Henric Chairman, Volvo AB and BP plc
SWITZERLAND
Kudelski, André Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group
Vasella, Daniel L. Honorary Chairman, Novartis International
TURKEY
Göle, Nilüfer Professor of Sociology, École des Hautes Études en Sciences Sociales
Koç, Mustafa Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
Çandar, Cengiz Senior Columnist, Al Monitor and Radikal
Oran, Umut Deputy Chairman, Republican People’s Party (CHP)
Taftalı, A. Ümit Member of the Board, Suna and Inan Kiraç Foundation
UNITED KINGDOM
Marcus Agius – Non-Executive Chairman, PA Consulting Group
Helen Alexander – Chairman, UBM plc
Edward M. Balls – Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
Cowper-Coles, Sherard Senior Adviser to the Group Chairman and Group CEO, HSBC Holdings plc
Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc
Mandelson, Peter Chairman, Global Counsel LLP
Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
Kerr, John Deputy Chairman, Scottish Power
Greening, Justine Secretary of State for International Development
Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plcNLD Samsom, Diederik M. Parliamentary Leader PvdA (Labour Party)
Sawers, John Chief, Secret Intelligence Service
Osborne, George Chancellor of the Exchequer
Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
Keith B. Alexander – Former Commander, U.S. Cyber Command; Former Director, National Security Agency
Roger C. Altman – Executive Chairman, Evercore
Nicolas Berggruen – Chairman, Berggruen Institute on Governance
Robert B. Zoellick – Chairman, Board of International Advisors, The Goldman Sachs Group
Li, Cheng Director, John L.Thornton China Center,The Brookings Institution
Greenberg, Evan G. Chairman and CEO, ACE Group
Feldstein, Martin S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER
Jackson, Shirley Ann President, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard
Johnson, James A. Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
Karp, Alex CEO, Palantir Technologies
Katz, Bruce J. Vice President and Co-Director, Metropolitan Policy Program, The Brookings Institution
Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute
Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
Shih, Clara CEO and Founder, Hearsay Social
Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
Donilon, Thomas E. Senior Partner, O’Melveny and Myers; Former U.S. National Security Advisor
Gfoeller, Michael Independent Consultant
Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chair, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
Rumer, Eugene Senior Associate and Director, Russia and Eurasia Program, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
McAfee, Andrew Principal Research Scientist, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Mundie, Craig J. Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation
Murray, Charles A. W.H. Brady Scholar, American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research
Hockfield, Susan President Emerita, Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Hoffman, Reid Co-Founder and Executive Chairman, LinkedIn
Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
Petraeus, David H. Chairman, KKR Global Institute
Reed, Kasim Mayor of Atlanta
Thiel, Peter A. President, Thiel Capital
Summers, Lawrence H. Charles W. Eliot University Professor, Harvard University
Spence, A. Michael Professor of Economics, New York University
Warsh, Kevin M. Distinguished Visiting Fellow and Lecturer, Stanford University
Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
http://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/bilderberg-2014-full-list-official-attendees/
May be the plan is simply to make us all drink Carlsberg – the fiends!
According to the BBC, Japan are bowing out of the World Cup.
But then, if any country was going to bow out, it would be Japan!
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/06/24/Fan-Violence-Erupts-in-Los-Angeles-After-Mexico-Wins%20World-Cup-Game
http://youtu.be/eSRSypmC3OY
Rod and his friend discuss his book.
Malfleur @ 2:41
The list impresses by its length if anything else. Most of the men (it;s mostly men, the feminists should be told) are Presidents, Chairmen, CEOs of companies, and as such they come and go. Baron was under the impression the group with the desire to create a world Gualg for the likes of him was made of few, massively powerful mafia like characters running things from behind. A body of this size couldn’t decide on how to lace up a pair of shoes, the interests of the Americans and the Chinese only coincide at some abstract level, like both ranting about peace, free trade, human rights or whatever even though either one will do what they think is best for them, stuff the rest.
Only one individual, apart from the Lordy gay, caught Baron’s eye, the former Chairman of Barclays who had to resign following the Libor rate fixing scandal. He a heavyweight? If he were the Libor scandal would have been swept under a rug, it wasn’t, his bank, even though it was the one institution that alerted the authorities to it first, got kicked, the one guy who knew how to make money, and did (Bob Diamond) got pushed out, a bean counter took charge.
If you have a minute have a look a look at Barclays share price since the changeover of leadership. 24-carat madness, Malfleur, the financial institutions taht will make money in the future are those domiciled in countries other than the UK, the Americans sitting pretty at the top of the list.
John birch @ 05:46
Abit late on this, John, Rod had a blog on it, it’s worth your while scanning through it, the Colonel is taking part in the battle of ideas, too.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/rod-liddle/2014/06/my-run-in-with-yasmin-alibhai-brown-and-channel-4-news/
And another thing:
When the blonde presenter said ‘we (the English) were in the past of stiff upper lip, unassuming, meddling through …. Rod should have said: Yup, we were all those things, but we ran an Empire, others gladly and willingly copied us, and a foreigner said of us “wherever on this planet ideals of personal freedom and dignity apply, there you will find the cultural inheritance of England”. Could any one of you tell me what’s the contribution to mankind of the new England, the one full of rainbow newcomers?
Gay marriage, massive sovereign indebtedness, the grooming of girls … ?
And which part of the description of the Woolwich murderers as ‘black thugs’ is incorrect? If they were white, one were to say ‘white thugs’, would that be incorrect, too?
Baron,
Buggerall-Brown is on the rampage again, why this whinging coon is given air time I will never fathom. Thrown out of Uganda, she fetches up on our shores, spreads her legs to obtain a passport and spent the rest of her time biting the hand that feeds her. To top it all she states that she hopes white males will be obliterated within a hundred years. Not a trace of racism there you notice. Punch her in the throat? what a wimp, I’d volunteer to wring her bloody neck any day of the week, especially if that day was in Ramadan.
stephen maybery @ 12:24
The woman infuriates, makes one despair, shout ‘where the hell are the men in white coats’ but, stephen, paradoxically, her insane yapping may be not only ineffective for what it is she’s pushing for, but counterproductive. Most people, who still retain some common sense, cannot but feel as we do.
Her hope that the white male will disappear may be her undoing though, the by far more intellectually gifted Susan Sontag uttered a similar quip well back in the 60s (white race is the cancer of human history), then tried to ‘explain’ it, retracted it, apologised, all to no avail. Her backing went south, she was marginalised, and rightly so as it is unarguably a racist thought. The Alibaba’s utterance mixes racism with misandry, which is even worse but, as we both know, her skin colour is other than white, she can get away with it.
Baron,
Your take on Buggerall-Brown cheered me up immensely, maybe this time she has shot herself in the foot. Where’s Anne? we definitely need her comments on this one.
stephen maybery
June 25th, 2014 – 13:38
Hi Stephen, well what can I say? The wretched pubic louse is not worthy of comment. A good smearing of that blue Whitfield’s ointment, especially in her dirty mouth should do the trick. When I was a student nurse, we viewed old bags like Buggerall-Brown with horror, but now it seems they suck on the punlic purse.
AWK1
I didn’t realise she was from Carthage? 😉
Ostrich (occasionally)
June 25th, 2014 – 15:31
Meant to write public (public) purse!!!!!! 🙂
Anne,
Now don’t go getting all modest on us. Pubic louse, brilliant. You could write a novel about the dame, call it “The Pubes of Wrath”. I’ll be your ghost writer.
John birch – 05:46
“http://youtu.be/eSRSypmC3OY
Rod and his friend discuss his book.”
Is there a device that would lower speech by an octave so it is easier on the ear?
stephen maybery
June 25th, 2014 – 17:10
Stephen, she is such a horrid piece of work, that my usual sense of humour deserts me. If she was considered ethnically white, the police would have already taken her away.
The sun is definitely not shining on CMD, what with the phone hacking trial judge accusing PM of launching ‘open season’ on Andy Coulson while jury was still considering verdicts, and Ken Clarke, CMD’s own Cabinet minister, saying Mr Cameron’s comments were “unwise”.
And we now have the Indian Government acting in the interests of India:
“India’s new Prime Minister Narendra Modi has just given his British counterpart David Cameron an object lesson in the art of good governance: never treat with an enemy whose sole purpose is to destroy you.
…
A secret report by the Indian intelligence services explains why.
It begins:
A significant number of Indian NGOs (funded by some donors based in US, UK, Germany and Netherlands) have been noticed to be using people-centric issues to create an environment, which lends itself to stalling development projects. These include agitations against nuclear power plants, uranium mines, Coal-Fired Power Plants (CFPPs), Genetically Modified Organisms (GMO), mega industrial projects (POSCO and Vedanta), hydel projects (at Narmada Sagar; and in Arunachal Pradesh) and extractive industries (oil, limestone) in the North East. The negative impact on GDP growth is assessed to be 2-3 % p.a.
The report is right, I think, to put that last sentence in bold. From what I have seen myself of the economic damage wrought by environmental lobby groups, I’d say 2-3 per cent of GDP growth was a pretty reasonable and accurate estimate”
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/24/India-s-government-is-standing-up-to-the-green-bullies-Why-can-t-ours
Some might like this. Actually, this school is in the next township south from me. You’ve got to love Queensland – Sun, Sea and Sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwghabw4N80&list=RDPwghabw4N80#t=0
Needs spreading.
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/timblair/index.php/dailytelegraph/comments/peaceful_majority_irrelevant/#.U6UXA6GQa30.email
I think this guy’s lost it, too.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10926317/Lord-West-challenges-Michael-Gove-to-a-fight.html
🙁
Clear Memories @ 22:54
This, Clear Memories, feels like a spook, or are you suggesting those descended from the convicts sent down by the common sense English burghers have more sense now than those descended from the said common sense burghers of yesteryear? As an example from the clip. How could they get away with saying ‘you want to hear it in another language move to the country that speaks it’? So bloody un PC.
Port Douglas is the place the barbarian used to come to to relax. An overnight flight from Tokyo, a short ride on a coach, spartan accommodation, but the beaches? Unbeatable, and so massive one could be (as Baron was) miles from anyone else, shouting and screaming, but only the blue waters of the Pacific Ocean could hear it, and as far as Baron could tell, they didn’t mind. Fantastic place, highly recommended.
This is what passes for fast talking: she is almost right, regretfully, Baron hasn’t got the time to engage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s&feature=youtu.be
Baron, Port Douglas, 1500kms north of me, now a coal/ore export port. But the whole coast is still beautiful. (Although crocs are now that far south and box jellyfish still kill.)
PC hasn’t ‘infected’ the common man here yet. Stereotypes are still acceptable. Local government, which from memory was the original source of PC in the UK and browbeat people into accepting the tenets of Political Correctness, cannot get away with it here – your average Aussie, faced with PC, reacts with a tired “talk English, Sheila (or Bruce)” when faced with drivel.
As a Pom, you get a fair bit of stick, but then, being white, we just get on with life, don’t whine, don’t seek special treatment, frankly, don’t care!!
And the sun nearly always shines.
Clear Memories – 08:57 ‘Brigitte Gabriel’s response’
Baron – 10:00
For an off-the-cuff response, it is magnificent!
It addresses the immediate error of putting the focus onto the professional ‘victims’, the perpetrators and their supporters, and away from the main discussion of what to do about muslim violence against the West.
By mentioning the Germans, Russians and Japanese and how, in each case, the violent outvoted the silent majority, it shows how all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing. And that is without the unifying texts, philosophy and culture that propagates terror within the cult members and their families, such as FGM and honour killings that are so central to their cause.
The invitation for more people, like her, to contribute to a peaceful solution puts responsibility on her, and her clique, which makes her goal of being a helpless victim, more difficult.
The audience’s applause also added to the magnificence.
Until the ‘silent majority’ acknowledge that they are part of the problem and need, for their sake, to think, decide and act in what, we would consider, an intelligent manner, the rest of us will see no progress.
Any progress without this change of heart occurring will not be progress, even if the Progressives think so!
RobertC – 11:43 ‘Brigitte Gabriel’
She is quite a woman:
“Brigitte Gabriel was born in the Marjayoun District of Lebanon to a Maronite Christian family when her mother was fifty-five and her father was sixty as their first and only child after over twenty years of marriage. She recalls that during the Lebanese Civil War, Islamic militants launched an assault on a Lebanese military base near her family’s house and destroyed her home. Gabriel, who was ten years old at the time, was injured by shrapnel in the attack. She says that she and her parents were forced to live underground in all that remained, an 8-by-10-foot (2.4 by 3.0 m) bomb shelter for seven years, with only a small kerosene heater, no sanitary systems, no electricity or running water, and little food. She says she had to crawl in a roadside ditch to a spring for water to evade Muslim snipers. …”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Gabriel
‘A European diplomat in Brussels said: “[Juncker’s] alcohol consumption has been raised by a number of leaders since the parliament election.” ‘ (DT)
Presumably by them giving him additional bottles of fin cognac.
Peter,
The Russian Origins of The First World War by Sean McMeekin. I will refresh my memory over the weekend and get a review to you early next week.
Thanks Stephen, it would be interesting to have a review of that volume. And the request remains open for anyone else reading something at the moment.
I had to drive to Stoke last week, and so I made sure that I had something to listen to. I downloaded a series of lectures on the First World War from Oxford University. The speakers are all very interesting and I commend them to all. They can be watched as video or listened to as audio. I learned a great deal.
http://podcasts.ox.ac.uk/series/oh-what-lovely-war-first-world-war-anniversary-lectures
Oh What a Lovely War? First World War Anniversary Lectures
2014 marks the one hundredth anniversary of the First World War, whose war dead still cascade down the north wall of the entrance to Christ Church Cathedral, and which continues to haunt the imagination of contemporary Britons, shaping our views of armed force, of authority, and of patriotism. This lecture series looks at aspects of the First World War. Sponsored by the McDonald Centre for Theology, Ethics, and Public Life, and Christ Church Cathedral
Speaking of our war dead…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/10929578/UN-committee-backs-Argentina-over-Falkands-dispute.html
Foxtrot Oscar UN, no?
Poor white pupils put off school by multicultural timetable
A study finds that working-class white children are being turned off school because lessons are too focused on celebrating other cultures while shunning British traditions
“Head teachers told how they ran numerous projects such as Black History Month and “cultural days” to raise awareness of countries such as Portugal, Poland and Jamaica.
But it was claimed that white British pupils from deprived homes often “cannot see themselves or their lives reflected in the curriculum”, turning them off school altogether.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/educationnews/10930854/Poor-white-pupils-put-off-school-by-multicultural-timetable.html
I expect it affects all white children, and adults as well, but those within a supporting network are able to succeed despite the racist establishment celebrating the descent into vibrancy, resentment and lack of any moral code and their enthusiasm in attacking the very families that made Britain great.
Horrible, horrible, horrible…
http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-father-commits-suicide-after-isis-members-rape-wife-and-daughter-in-front-of-him-because-he-couldnt-pay-poll-tax-122220/
A Christian father who watched his wife and daughter get brutally raped by members of the militant group, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) because he couldn’t pay them a poll tax in Mosul, Iraq, killed himself under the weight of the trauma this past weekend.
A report from the Assyrian International News Agency said ISIS began enforcing Islamic laws in the northern Iraq city which they overran on June 10.
Dr. Sallama Al-Khafaji of the Iraq High Commission for Human Rights said the incident happened on Saturday after ISIS began asking Christians in Mosul for a poll tax.
“In one instance, ISIS members entered the home of an Assyrian family in Mosul and demanded the poll tax (jizya). When the Assyrian family said they did not have the money, three ISIS members raped the mother and daughter in front of the husband and father. The husband and father was so traumatized that he committed suicide,” said the report.
“The Christians have told me that they cannot pay this tax,” Dr. Al-Khafaji told AINA, “and they say ‘what am I to do, shall I kill myself?'”
Four Christian women were also reportedly shot dead by ISIS members because they were not wearing veils.
U.S. officials told CNN that they believe ISIS now has about 10,000 fighters in Iraq and Syria and the group has been functioning as an “increasingly capable military force.”
RobertC @ 11:47
Here she is again, Robert, gorgeous, witty and hard hitting, she starts around the third minute into the clip
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSxwcPWcLAY
Peter from Maidstone @ 17:03
Many of them were amongst those the messiah and the boy were going to arm to fight Assad. They need no arming now, they’ve captured alot of the hardware supplied to the Maliki forces. A mad world, in which the innocent suffer whilst the anointed spew heart warming multy culty PC shibboleths.
David Cameron is ‘Wayne Rooney of Europe, always defeated’ says German media
British prime minister likened to England’s footballer because of his failure to block appointment of Jean-Claude Juncker to top European position
This appears in The Telegraph. I suggest that whilst we are on the subject of footballers, we should consider Luis Suarez. Cameron unlike Suarez, does not bite. He is toothless, and is more like Rooney. Rooney is a cheap whore master, pimp and cad. Cameron is mixed up with characters like Patrick Rock. a former senior adviser to the prime minister, who has been charged by police over child abuse. Cameron seems to have very bad judgement when it comes to selecting personnel. images.
Our England . Just weep.
http://dailym.ai/1lwIDmn
The Christians being persecuted by muslim terrorists in northern Iraq are a people known as Assyrians.They are from three Church groups:Nestorians (founded by the Apostles in 33AD );Orthodox;and Catholics.They,along with the Pontus Greeks,where subjected to the same genocide campaign as the Armenians;by the Turks.
Current reports are published by the Assyrian International News Agency (AINA);along with accounts of the history of the Assyrians over the millennia.
http://www.aina.org/index.html
John birch
June 27th, 2014 – 21:25
Indeed tragic for England. But whilst we certainly do not need Muslim murderers, we neither require Romanian, nor any other foreign whores.
It is indeed horrible to watch the attacks on Christians by US established ISIS (Al Qaeda).
It is shocking also to see the collaboration of Christian churches in the United States with the Obama regime’s policy of an open border with Mexico. This is simply Neathergate writ large. The Churches receive the illegal aliens from the Border Patrol, which has now stood down along the border itself, and bus them to where they can use vouchers provided by the Border Patrol to travel to wherever in the United States they choose where they bolster support for Democrats and other enemies of the former republic and become a further charge against the middle and working class tax revnue.
There is no information of course as to what percentage of this flood of law-breaking aliens, if any, are islamicist terrorists whether hired for desperate acts by the Obama regime or not, let alone how many members or affiliates of other criminal organizations, as there is no government agency trying to collect the information. Ordinary citizens by contrast are groped, felt up and relieved of their effects by the TSA (the Transportation Security Administration)at airports and venues increasingly un related to “transportation” other than in the most tenuous sense under laws which are unconstitutional.
The so-called Department of Homeland Security, which is developing into a kind of secret armed state police or praetorian guard for the federal government of the US (“Securitate” as Ceaușescu’s government had it), is the deliberate instrument of this regime’s open border policy down Mexico way, in furtherance no doubt of the “North American Free Trade Agreement” – a kind of European Union in the making – but light needs to be shone on the collaboration of the Christian pharisees in the disaster.
Now that the European Union is nominally represented by an unelected drunk, such momentum as we have gained from that disgrace should be employed to push the Prime Minister towards actions which will free our people to be properly informed to enable them to decide for the country and in its own interest who, how and when non-citizens are allowed into or are sent out of the country without having to the rules and agenda of invisible, alien authoritarians.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10932166/Mosque-hardliners-gave-extremist-lectures-at-school.html
Malfleur 23:47
Perfect juxtaposition of us trying, legally to enter the US vs. illegals.
Last man down, switch off the lights.
Anne Wotana Kaye 1
June 27th, 2014 – 22:17
Exactly Anne, the whole story from start to finish is a perfect example of what’s gone wrong.
RAMADAN 2014;Message from David Cameron.
“I want to sending very best wishes to everyone observing the holy month of Ramadan…..”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDbm90BoUK0&feature=youtu.be
Radford (28 June @ 19:39)
Cameron is sending a clear message to those of us who are not observing Ramadan, eh?
I don’t remember him sending his greetings when we started Great Lent? Must have slipped his mind.
Meanwhile;in Middlesbrough:an EDL demonstration.
http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/replay-edl-march-counter-demonstrations-7339372
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/06/28/Britain-Bans-Need4Khilafah-Group-Following-Reports
Happy Ramadan!
“Saudi Arabia has threatened to deport any non-Muslim foreigners who don’t respect the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan by eating, drinking or smoking in public.”
Now there’s a thought….Christmas anyone?
Don’t worry Malfleur, it’s only a handful of extremists who take such a view of Islam. It’s not a representative view at all!
Malfleur
June 28th, 2014 – 23:15
How fortunate I am not to live in a country like Saudi Arabia. I really don’t like Christmas pudding, it actually makes me sick. Imagine if dictators like the Saudis completely ran things here, I would be accused of disrespect if I chose a piece of fruit as dessert rather than that horrid pudding!
“…we’re run by a single giant corporation whose leadership is very complicated and competitive, but whose leaders come from a common culture and who call on the consensus for their ideas.
Using elections to shift that consensus is very difficult because at the top the consensus extends across both parties and much of the governing of the consensus is not subject to voter review….”
Profundity, immense, transatlantic and transcontinental, from the Sultan
http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/our-consensus-rulers.html
“…Now that the European Union is nominally represented by an unelected drunk, such momentum as we have gained from that disgrace should be employed to push the Prime Minister…etc”
Of which I remark; that a Bullyngdon Club member is hardly able to claim the Tee Totallers high ground and that, if the spineless creature in No 10 is pushed by anything other than personal preservation, if will not be by his euroseptics.
Mr Hitchen’s mordant analysis on the Blair creatures’ heir:-
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2673621/PETER-HITCHENS-Can-spot-difference-two-men-No-neither.html
You might like this…
http://www.coffeehousewall.co.uk/the-violence-of-islam-against-apostacy/
Anne Wotana Kaye 1
June 29th, 2014 – 12:11
What I was hinting at, perhaps too obliquely, was the possibility of adopting a corresponding policy that any muslim who failed to observe the major Christian holidays should be expelled from the country. – a little too draconian perhaps, other than by Saudi standards.
It would of course require singling out your muslim which would require a major overturn of political correctness in the country.
This is not however quite as unthinkable as it may seem. The right to bear arms embodied in the Bill of Rights 1688, and now unhappily reduced by the state to little more than a token, was of course at that juncture denied to Roman Catholics who were then rather less subversive of English liberties than, we might argue, your muslim be today.
The state’s agenda however is to expedite the dismantling of English liberty and culture, so the precedent of constructive discrimination is unlikely to find favour at any time soon.
Nonetheless, in the context of European history, we are I am glad to say “an aberrant case” – so all things are possible:
“…The development of European civilisation, Guizot concluded, was characterised by an irresistible advance towards the equality of conditions. As Guizot’s narrative closes, however, his attention turned to England. What he had to say here merits quotation at length. “When we glance,” Guizot wrote, “at the state of the free institutions of England at the end of the 16th century, we find first, fundamental rules and principles of liberty, of which neither the country, nor the legislature had ever lost sight; second, precedents, examples of liberty . . . sufficing to legalise and sustain the claims, and to support the defenders of liberty in any struggle against tyranny and despotism; third, special and local institutions, replete with germs of liberty; the jury, the right of assembling, OF BEING ARMED [my emphasis] . . . fourth, and last, the parliament and its power.” Moreover, in this, Guizot wrote, the political condition of England showed itself to be “wholly different from that of the continent”. There, by contrast, the principle of absolute royalty, be it in Spain or France, had aspired to create a universal monarchy. The state had taken a bureaucratic and tyrannical form. And this, Guizot believed, remained the case to his day. In short, England was the aberrant case…”.
(From: What Do We Mean When We Speak of Freedom?
JEREMY JENNINGS
Standpoint Magazine, March 2014}
http://standpointmag.co.uk/writers/?showid=Jeremy%20Jennings
Juncker, please note – Prosit!
Noa
Good to see you back! Any good stories from the campaign trail?
By the way, I am not aware that Mr. Cameron takes a pint of cognac with his sausage, egg and chips, or indeed still smashes up restaurants on his own shilling. His opposition to Juncker’s appointment was not exactly spineless and his defeat in that respect has had the merit, if reports can be believed, of moving us closer to the exit. Here’s Nigel Farage on the subject, looking and sounding prime ministerial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPYpmsZ7qWc
I am awaiting his first speech in the European parliament under the new president with anticipatory pleasure!
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2014/06/29/Persecuted-Christians-in-Iraq-Look-to-Putin-as-an-Unlikely-Ally
Noa
Thanks for the link to Mr. Hitchens’ article.
When he writes “It is simply not true, as almost every media outlet obediently parroted yesterday, that Britain is now one step closer to leaving the EU. We are as trapped in it as ever”, he is only half right What Mr. Farage touched on in his interview by the BBC was that Cameron’s defeat on the Juncker appointment was going to widen the appreciation in the United Kingdom that the people must vote to leave the EU.
At the same time, I am personally coming to the view that those who are pressing for a “United States of Europe” will stop at nothing, not even murder or war, to have their way. In that sense, I fear Mr. Hitchens is correct in saying that we are trapped.
If I equivocate, then I equivocate.
http://rt.com/news/169144-iraq-russian-jets-arrive/
“First UK poll after Juncker battle shows rising support for EU exit”
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/06/29/uk-britain-europe-juncker-idUKKBN0F40SN20140629
Now ISIS is claiming a new Muslim state, how long will it be before the BBC comes out and supports them.
John Birch,
How long before the BBC come out in support of ISIS? I’ll give it to the end of the week. Tops.