The Coffee House Wall – 25th/31st August

Posted on August 25, 2014

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  2. The bank holiday brings an article in the Independent that shows some wisdom, though it does have its moments of weakness! The comments show similar strengths, and weaknesses, but it is heartening to see some sense in the Lefty press emerging. The penny is beginning to drop:

    Putin may have been right about Syria all along
    Many cautioned against the earlier insistence of the Obama administration that Assad must go
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/putin-may-have-been-right-about-syria-all-along-9688838.html

    Boris J is suggesting that the burden of proof, if visiting parts of the ME, should be changed. And then we have the ‘uman rights lobby to fight. One of the articles posts has a pretty good overview:

    “RAULIN [circa 10:20]
    Yes Putin knows all too well about Islamic fanatics, but the real battle is actually much closer to home. The teachings of Sayyd Qutb are behind the more literate of the fanatics including the Muslim Brotherhood. Simply put there is a preordained RIGHT of every muslim to defend his brother if he is being oppressed and that can simply mean he is limited in prosetylizing . The path of the Quran is well worn, in the early part Muhammed surrounded by enemies was an appeaser and conciliatory , later with power and military expansion he showed his true duplicitous nature and exercised tyranny. For the believing muslim there is no secular state
    no division between religion and state. If you value your rights to express an opinion , to have civil liberties you need to fight for it. Now picture a muslim population in the west they are in the minority so they are conciliatory but that picture will change when they reach a certain percentage of the population I would put it at 30% . There is no such thing as moderate islam . If you value your freedoms then their expansion must be opposed . There is no freedom in islam unless you call totalitarianism freedom but the west needs to counter Islam in an intellectual manner, exposing the lies the hypocrisy, the misogyny, the hate . By the way, I hate the BNP and their ignorance and their reflex sociopathy in case this is interpreted as a a diatribe but we need to develop an agressive intellectual response to this menace. The only western response has been military.”

    And here is another:
    “MULTIFINLAYSON [circa 11:58]
    I agree, there needs to be an intellectual challenge to Islam that is determined and forceful. We are brought up in the UK in an educational environment that supports critical reasoning, debate and the identification of and opposition to doctrinaire opinion. Yet at a certain age we then become aware of things we are not allowed to publicly criticise or condemn, in the name of multi-culti harmony. Our politicians have created both the mess and they – along with the media – force us to pay obeisance to the very multi-culti myths that will guarantee our loss of control.”

    Not a bad summaries whatsoever!

    It looks like the Multi-Culti mess needs to be addressed before we can make any headway.

  3. RobertC @ 12:23

    The messiah would rather start WW3 than admit he’s been wrong. Moreover, how could a man who says the call to prayer is the most beautiful sound known to man’, has a Muslim parent, hates Britain’s past.

    Baron is beginning to think the Russians may have been right on the MH17 atrocity, too, apparently Kiev has still not complied with the request from the people investigating the shooting of the plane to let them have all the evidence. Why not, are they manufacturing ‘new’ evidence?

  4. Sorry, the last sentence of Baron’s firts para (posting @ 13.58) got cut off for some reason, the sentence should have ended thus:

    ..be trusted to go after the creed he secretly admires.

  5. Peter, the cutting off of the sentence reminded Baron about a posting that failed to appear last week. It had a video attachment showing a Chinese military Su-25 annoying a US reconnoissance plane near the island in the China sea the ownership of which is disputed. Any reason for it?

  7. Baron
    August 25th, 2014 – 13:58
    Baron

    RobertC @ 12:23

    The messiah would rather start WW3 than admit he’s been wrong. Moreover, how could a man who says the call to prayer is the most beautiful sound known to man’, has a Muslim parent, hates Britain’s past.

    Baron this sounded so wild that I had to double check. Yes, Hiliary’s mutual ass licking protégé actually said it.

  8. Obama may not officially be in Hiliary’s closet, but it becomes clearer they are singing from the same hymn sheet

  10. PfM – 14:41
    You nearly had a MPFC clip, but I just can’t be bothered to find one. 🙂

  16. There was some discussion on the Spectator site about whether it was possible to strip a person of their nationality and make them stateless. I found that the EU Convention on Nationality, which we have not signed, but which can be taken as EU “best practice” (I say that ironically) says that nationality can be removed in several cases including…

    A State Party may not provide in its internal law for the loss of its nationality ex lege or at the initiative of the State Party except in the following cases:

    voluntary service in a foreign military force;

    conduct seriously prejudicial to the vital interests of the State Party;

    There would seem to be no reason therefore why these clauses should not be adopted by the UK.

  17. PfM – 20:57
    It is interesting that ‘foreign military force’ is used, and not ‘army’. I would prefer NF’s suggestion, amending an Act of Parliament.

    What many do not understand is that civilian law only works when most people are civil.

  20. I notice that the Obama regime/NATO and presumably our own fine government are now proposing to go to war in Syria on the side of President Assad against the group who are opposed to Assad that they were backing in their proposal to go to war against Assad last year…

    As Noa is I believe our expert on the arms business, it would be interesting to learn in more detail how this all works out in commercial terms. Not a zero sum at the end of the calculation I would have thought…

  21. 24 August 1814:The burning of Washington.Major General Ross (of Rostrevor,County Down) and Rear Admiral Cockburn,ignoring orders from Vice Admiral Cochrane,marched on Washington D.C.

    After eat President Madison’s dinner they burnt the White House.

    A recent `tweet` from the British Embassy (see below) produced complaints,and an apology.

    In 1813 Americans had burnt York,capital of Upper Canada (now Toronto,Ontario);but they don’t like it up’em,they don’t.

    hppt://pic.twitter.com/QIDBQTBmmL

  24. Sabotage at Spectator. Many comments to the article:”Britain must do more for the new wave of asylum seekers”;by Fraser Nelson,24 Aug.–have been put into `moderation`.

    This is addressed by Damaris Tighe;and is also put into `moderation`.He wrote:”This site has been attacked again (main posts in moderation).Please Spectator team,this is the 3rd time this has happened.”

    Agrippina responds at about 11-30pm Monday.Tighe replied:”Quick look–it seems once again to be the main posts not the following discussions……”This is followed by other replies.

  26. “…As Noa is I believe our expert on the arms business, it would be interesting to learn in more detail how this all works out in commercial terms. Not a zero sum at the end of the calculation I would have thought…”

    Am I? Not a claim I have ever made, or sought any nomination for.

    The US may charge or recoup its Arab despots for their military services, as in the profitable first Gulf war, but the Iraq model shows that the UK. now a Saudi and Gulf satrapi, is happy to bomb their enemies for free. Our business won in Iraq was negligible in comparison to Haliburton.

    Still, nature abhors a vacuum and if Obama and Cameron are squeamish about bombing their enemies the Gulf states are obviously prepared to have a go themeselves, with all that expensive military equipment the US and UK have been selling them.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-28933070

    “…The official told the BBC that the US had not been consulted about the air strikes and that it was concerned that US weapons may have been used, violating agreements under which they were sold.

    A report in The New York Times on Monday said the UAE had provided the military aircraft, aerial refuelling planes and crews while Egypt gave access to its air bases.

    Planes and buildings have been badly damaged by fighting at the airport
    The first air strikes, which took place on 18 August, targeted a small weapons depot and other militia positions, US officials told the newspaper. Six people were reportedly killed.

    Then on Saturday, jets bombed rocket launchers, military vehicles and a warehouse controlled by militiamen, the officials added, leaving at least a dozen people dead.

    On Monday, the US, France, Germany, Italy and the UK issued a joint statement denouncing “outside interference” in Libya which it said “exacerbates current divisions and undermines Libya’s democratic transition”.

    The surreal quality of the last statement is hard to comprehend.
    We are being asked to accept that these same countries did not themeselves ‘interfere’ decisively in the internal affairs of Libya during the overthrow of Ghaddafi. But presumably while it’s acceptable for ‘civilised democracies’ to bomb foriegn countries it’s unacceptable for the arab states they have armed to do so without permission.
    And does the US seriously think it can sel weapons to foreign states and that they will only use them with their permission?

  27. John birch
    August 26th, 2014 – 08:45
    We should kick the barbarian shite out now! If we don’t, within two generations they will be either kicking us out or beheading us

  28. Radford NG @ 07:48

    With telemachus absent, not one of the postings came in favour of Fraser’s call for more immigrants. You shouldn’t be surprised, Radford, you got censored, so did Baron, he no longer complains, no point, that’s the British, 21st century mutant of the freedom of expression. One should be glad one isn’t questioned by the cops, merely ‘moderated out’, who knows how long before the questioning phase hits us us.

  29. Anne,
    Quite right, kick the bastards out now, if we were to go to Saudi, from where most of our troubles are generated, and started stirring things up, we would be lucky to get off with deportation. As for us having two generations grace, I think you are being optimistic, at the rate they are reproducing and the authorities determination not to curb immigration, we would be lucky to enjoy one generation before the darkness descends.

  30. Baron,
    No arguments from me. The last issue of the Speccie was an insult to the Nation. It is because of the blatant censorship the I refuse to comment on the site. Considering the take on certain topics, one has to wonder if the Barclays have a hidden agenda, or are merely angling for peerages before Dave is given the bums rush at the next election.

  31. Noa @ 10:47

    It indeed is surreal, the hypocrisy, the double standards, the duplicity of the political gnomes of today. Not at all different from the behaviour of the communist thugs who, with straight face, without blinking an eye, no sign of any capacity for shame were lecturing the nationwide Gulag-held plebeians how well they lived compared to the exploited slaves in the lands of capitalism. The same message was often related days on end through public loudspeaker systems in towns and villages after the morning shift was over.

    It was a surreal world, too, large queues of people hoping to buy the bare necessities, the air filled with drawling voices trumpeting the achievements of the people led by the party, the happy, carefree life, the much higher per capita production of coal, steel, milk, bread …..than those in the West.

    The funny thing was (and is here today), those in charge knew the people knew it was all lies, but nothing ever happened, no challenge in public, nobody ever made even a joke about it. It was as if everyone lived a double life, one real in which one did a job, ate, slept, and another parallel one in which one lied, and was lied to.

  32. Baron
    “…Not at all different from the behaviour of the communist thugs who, with straight face, without blinking an eye, no sign of any capacity for shame were lecturing the nationwide Gulag-held plebeians how well they lived compared to the exploited slaves in the lands of capitalism…”

    Yes Baron, we are all prisoners in the Gulag now. And how easy it has been for geographically tiny Britain, with its homogenous political and communications systems, to lose control of them and be subverted, to become a neo-marxist state.

  33. At least 1,400 children abused in Rotherham over a 10 year period and the perpetrators were Pakistani.
    I had to check I had heard the number of children correctly .
    The left have a lot to answer for.

  34. We can expect a very angry posting from Anne any moment and who can blame her , it’s beyond believe that this could go on so long without coming to light.
    They are now admitting it’s still going on.

  35. And it seems no one has been sacked or disciplined over this issue according to the author of the report.

  36. How can a judge dare say that rape conviction statistics will not improve ‘until women stop getting drunk’?

    Well, she is now retired, and a woman!

    “Rape conviction statistics won’t improve ‘until women stop getting drunk’, says retired female judge
    The retired judge told an Oxford newspaper: “I will be pilloried for saying so, but the rape conviction statistics will not improve until women stop getting so drunk.
    “It is inevitable that it is one person’s word against another, and the burden of proof is that you have to be sure before you convict.
    “I’m not saying it is right to rape a drunken woman and I’m not saying for a moment that it’s allowable to take advantage of a drunken woman.
    “But juries are in a position where they’ve got a woman who says: ‘I was absolutely off my head, I can’t really remember what I was doing, I can’t remember what I said, I can’t remember if I consented or not but I know I wouldn’t have done’.
    “When a jury is faced with something like that, how are they supposed to react?”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11056243/Rape-conviction-statistics-wont-improve-until-women-stop-getting-drunk-says-retired-female-judge.html

    And “Katie Russell, from Rape Crisis England, described her comments as “potentially very harmful”.”

    Very harmful to what?

  37. Jimmy saville was one person and no one spotted him. Supposedly , allegedly . And all the rest of the weasel words.
    But hoards of pakis at our girls over all these years in Rotherham ( and many other towns ) and the town councils can sleep at night.
    It’s not just the Muslims who are the fifth column it’s all the usefull idiots in these councils who allowed them to operate with no fear of the law.
    Traitorous bastards.

  40. RobertC August 26th, 2014 – 14:39

    Just a thought, how does a drunken man manage to rise to the occasion so to speak, so as to be able to rape?

  43. John birch @ 14:37

    Who would sack them, John? Anyone comes to mind from the ruling elite from the politicians through the MSM, the politicised police force, and up to many of the telemachus kind who have embraced and incased into law the doctrine of PC, multy culty, moral relativism and stuff? Hmmm.

    This, in Baron’s view, is what needs changing, not the procedures, personnel, oversight in any of the branches of governance, central or local. We need to get rid of the legislation that has tied the hands of virtually everyone in the public service. That’s the boil that needs cutting out.

    Baron has no sympathy with the Rotherham council, the police and others involved, after all they were paid do do a job, failed abysmally, but he can understand why they did FA. They have families, too, need the money to pay for sustenance, their kids education, mortgages. If they were to do the job well, the left leaning tossers would start screaming ‘you whraaasist …’, and the law would administer the kill, deprive them of their livelihoods.

    We need not only a real bonfire of quangos, but a bigger one of the statutes that are inimical to good, old tradition of English law making.

  45. The bien pensant say Enoch Powell was wrong about rivers of blood.

    It’s a sneaky trick, because he never said rivers of blood.

    But how else does one describe 7/7?

    How else does one describe Lee Rigby?

    How else does one describe the epidemic of Muslim paedophile rapists?

    The latest report from Rotheram is an underestimate.

    There will, sadly, never be a revolution in the UK. People have shown themselves too docile for that.

    This is treason, abandonment, murder (Charlene Downes) and genocide.

    Multiculturalism means people will not step in.

    It is not good enough to say: I know some nice Muslims. I know some nice West Indians.

    Would they not be better off in Muslim countries or in the West Indies where they can export their nicesness on the basis that they fit in there? Non-Muslims and non-West Indians do not fit in there so cannot help there.

    The point is that when things go wrong, no one outside the culture can step in and dole out a beating to the paedophile or wife beater.

    In days gone by, pa or brothers or cousins could drop by to do over a man who was behaving beyond the pale.

    Now we get cases like Katie Piper (just had a baby).

    And this:

    ‘How fear of being seen as racist stopped social workers saving up to 1,400 children from sexual exploitation at the hands of Asian men in just ONE TOWN

    * Report found 1,400 children abused between 1997 and 2013 in Rotherham

    * The figure is likely to be a conservative estimate of the true scale

    * Victims terrorised with guns and doused in petrol and threatened with fire

    * More than a third of the cases were already know to agencies

    * Author of the report condemned ‘blatant’ failings by council’s leadership

    * Action blocked by political correctness as staff ‘feared appearing racist’

    * Majority of victims described the perpetrators as ‘Asian’ men

    * Leader of Rotherham Council has stepped down with immediate effect

    * No council employees will receive disciplinary action, leaders state

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2734694/It-hard-appalling-nature-abuse-child-victims-suffered-1-400-children-sexually-exploited-just-one-town-16-year-period-report-reveals.html

    This is absolute madness.

    If people cannot overthrow the state (it is all sponsored by the state) with force, at least have the human decency to stop voting LibLabCon.

    This was and is deliberate.

    It was engineered with purpose, regardless of the consequences.

    And the fish rots from the top – the head: LibLabCon.

  46. And let’s not forget the role of Common Purpose in all this.

    Their placemen and placewomen would have helped out with all this.

    There was the famous instance in Rotherham where one family of foster carers were ditched because they were UKIP supporters.

    Actions like that make everyone turn a blind eye.

    Not part of the Common Purpose, eh? No role for you then.

  47. There are calls for a nationwide inquiry regarding the events in Rotherham. A complete waste of time, we all know what needs to be done, and an official whitewash absolving the Paki predators is not required on the prescription. If you are not British born and commit a crime, however trivial, then you should be deported. They do this in Australia and it works down under, and it would work here, which is why such a measure would not be implemented in poor old Blighty.

  48. RobertC August 26th, 2014 – 17:47

    “David Ossitt – 16:56

    It is the women who are drunk.”

    Robert I am fully aware that it is the women who are drunk but I am also, being a man, aware of the fact that large quantities of alcohol can be the cause of erectile dysfunction.

  50. David 19.13

    David , in my town there are a lot of fat ugly tattooed women pushing kids around in pushchairs.
    Without large quantities of alcohol on the male involved it would never have happened.

  52. BREITBART LONDON
    1400 Children Abused by Pakistani Paedo Gangs, £200k A Year Chief Bureaucrat Refuses to Resign

    by Andre Walker

    Aug 26, 2014 7:06 AM PT

    Rotherham Council has admitted that over 1400 children have been abused and the council failed to act for 16 years from 1997 to 2013. Children as young as 11 were routinely raped by gangs of mainly Pakistani men, but the Chief Executive of the Council Martin Kimber has not fired a single council officer over the affair.

    Mr Kimber is one of the richest men in local government, having earned a salary of £187,360 in 2010. His salary is likely to have increased since then. Whilst the elected leader of the Council resigned today, chief bureaucrat Mr Kimber is still soldiering on. If he is eventually forced out, he will be in-line for a massive payout.

    At a stormy press conference Mr Kimber was accused of deliberately trying to suppress details of the abuse. He denied having called the police and engaged a firm of solicitors to prevent the public talking about the council’s failings.

    Mr Kimber refused to comment on the claim that the politician ultimately responsible for the failures of the Children’s Services department is now the Police Commissioner in the area. Rotherham Council’s Children’s Services Department shot to fame in 2012 when they took three foster children off a couple because they supported UKIP.

    It has now emerged that whilst the Council was trying to stop UKIP members fostering children they were also covering up their own failure to protect children from paedophile gangs. The gangs themselves were allowed to get away with their activities for years, despite many of them making complaints.

    Some of the children who were attacked were trafficked to other parts of the country for the sexual gratification of friends of those responsible. Five men from the town were jailed for sexual offences against girls in 2010.

    At today’s press conference Mr Kimber said: “The council did not respond as appropriately as we ought to have done.” He refused to comment on whether he thought victims should be compensated.

    In recent years the activities of gangs of Pakistani paedophiles have been exposed in a number of Northern towns in England. Whilst it has never been proved there have been allegations that agencies like local councils and the police were unwilling to believe victims for fear of appearing racist.

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  53. Common Purposssssssssssssss

    Where is that snake, Julia Middleton?

    It is the traitors who matter most here.

    LibLabCon and Common Purpose and so on.

    They engineered entry. They made a system that turned a blind eye to aid genocide.

    The rapists could be exiled tomorrow if it weren’t for the traitors and their laws and their lies.

    Their endless, endless lies.

  54. David Ossitt – 19:13
    Obviously there is a threshold for each man, on whether it can be done, and for each woman, on whether she can remember who she is with.

  55. John birch – 19:59
    I have been commenting on CH, under the advancing religious freedom article.

    We cannot protect our own children from aliens, so why should they bother to listen to us on advancing religious freedom? It does seem arrogant and pointless.

  56. He Failed to Stop The Child Abusers, Then Rotherham Residents Made Him Police Chief

    by Andre Walker

    Aug 26, 2014 9:14 AM PT

    South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner Shaun Wright, has come under increasing pressure to resign after a damning report accused the Labour politician of presiding over a cover-up of child sexual abuse when he was a senior Councillor in Rotherham. Alexis Jay’s report into child abuse showed the council took no action to stop a Pakistani paedophile gang abusing 1,400 victims over 16 years.

    Wright was a Councillor in Rotherham for 12 years before being elected South Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner in November 2012. He had been Cabinet Member for Children’s and Young People’s Services from 2005 to 2012, right in the middle of the scandal which ran from 1997 to 2013.

    During his time as Councillor he was also the Deputy Chairman of South Yorkshire Police Authority, which was abolished to make way for the new commissioner post. This meant he was previously the second most senior politician in-charge of policing in the Rotherham area.

    Local MEP and UKIP candidate for Rotherham Jane Collins has called for Mr Wright to resign, claiming that he was “instrumental” in the cover-up of the abuse. Collins told Breitbart London: “The people of Yorkshire are rightly appalled to hear their Police and Crime Commissioner was so instrumental in covering up abuse of children in Rotherham. He should resign immediately because people like him have no place holding public office in a civilised society.”

    In 2009 the government slapped an improvement notice on the Children’s and Young People’s Services department but Wright still kept his job. According to the report the department only made changes when the government stepped in.

    At a press conference covered by Breitbart London today, the £200,000 a year Chief Executive of the Council confirmed that no officers had been fired for what had happened. He also refused to comment on whether Mr Wright was an appropriate person to run the local police.

    Wright is paid £100,000 a year after being elected in a poll with a 15 percent turnout. His replacement as Labour candidate the his council ward of Rawmarsh was his wife Lisa, who lost after being selected on an all-women short-list.

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  57. Nigel Farage wins nomination to be UKIP candidate for Thanet South (the North East coastal corner of Kent).

  58. See if you can spot the words Muslim Pakistan or Islam in this report.

    Westminster Circumstances Are Ripe for Abuse
    More Than 1,400 Children Suffered ‘Appalling’ Abuse In Rotherham For 16 Years
    PA 26/08/14 19:59
    Around 1,400 children were sexually exploited in one town over a 16-year period, according to a report which concluded: “It is hard to describe the appalling nature of the abuse that child victims suffered.”

    Today’s report on events in Rotherham, South Yorkshire, between 1997 and 2013, found that in more than a third of these cases the youngsters were already known to child care agencies.

    It said there had been “blatant” collective failures by the council’s leadership.

    Professor Alexis Jay, who wrote the report, said she found examples of “children who had been doused in petrol and threatened with being set alight, threatened with guns, made to witness brutally-violent rapes and threatened they would be next if they told anyone”.

    Prof Jay said: “They were raped by multiple perpetrators, trafficked to other towns and cities in the north of England, abducted, beaten and intimidated.”

    She said she found that girls as young as 11 had been raped by large numbers of men.

    SEE ALSO:
    Child Sexual Exploitation – The Momentum for Change Must Be Maintained
    Paedophilia Is An Affliction, Child Molestation Is A Crime
    Never Before Will Law Enforcement Agencies Have Been So Well Equipped to Prevent Child Abuse
    The report said failures of the political and officer leadership of Rotherham Council over the first 12 years she looked at were “blatant” as the seriousness of the problem was underplayed by senior managers and was not seen as a priority by South Yorkshire Police.

    Roger Stone, the council leader, stood down today over the conclusions of the report.

    Prof Jay said police “regarded many child victims with contempt”.

    These failures happened despite three reports between 2002 and 2006 “which could not have been clearer in the description of the situation in Rotherham”.

    She said the first of these reports was “effectively suppressed” because senior officers did not believe the data.

    The other two were ignored, the professor said.

    The report said: “By far the majority of perpetrators were described as ‘Asian’ by victims.”

    But, she said, councillors seemed to think is was a one-off problem which they hoped would go away and “several staff described their nervousness about identifying the ethnic origins of perpetrators for fear of being thought racist”.

    She said: “Others remembered clear direction from their managers not to do so.”

    The spotlight first fell on Rotherham in 2010 when five men, described by a judge as “sexual predators”, were given lengthy jail terms after they were found guilty of grooming teenage girls for sex.

    The prosecution was the first of a series of high-profile cases in the last four years that have revealed the exploitation of young girls in towns and cities including Rochdale, Derby and Oxford.

    Following the 2010 case, The Times claimed that details from 200 restricted-access documents showed how police and child protection agencies in the South Yorkshire town had extensive knowledge of these activities for a decade, yet a string of offences went unprosecuted.

    The allegations led to a range of official investigations, including one by the Home Affairs Select Committee.

    Last year, South Yorkshire police and crime commissioner Shaun Wright said there had been “a failure of management” at South Yorkshire Police as he responded to a report into his force on this issue by Her Majesty’s Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC).

    The report concluded: “No one knows the true scale of the child sexual exploitation in Rotherham over the years.

    “Our conservative estimate is that approximately 1,400 children were sexually exploited over the full inquiry period, from 1997 to 2013.”

    In response, Rotherham Council, which commissioned the report, said it accepted its findings, including the statement that failures “almost without exception” were attributed to senior managers in child protection services, elected councillors and senior police officers.

    It accepted that failures were not down to “frontline social or youth workers who are acknowledged in the report as repeatedly raising serious concerns about the nature and extent of this kind of child abuse”.

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  59. BBC News ‎- 14 hours ago
    All children in England’s state schools should get lessons about sex … for updated sex and relationship education to be taught in all schools, …Lib Dems
    This piece of garbage is juxtaposed ith the dreadful news of how children ‘in care’ were cared for in Rotherham.
    Would any sane parent entrust their children to the perverts who run this country? Is it any wonder that a nation which allows same-sex marriage and has openly homosexual vicars who make a mockery of the sanctity of marriage is filled with corrupt police and government officials? Martin Kimber the big chief in Rotherham apears as a slimy homosexual in his TV appearances. The Asian peoples are gravely insulted by calling the PAKISTANI abusers ‘Asians’. It is obvious that boys and girls were traded by officials and police under Kimber’s watch, a situation which makes the Rolf Harris and even Saville cases appear diminished by the corruption and political involvement which took place. It is common knowledge that the Lib Dems are peopled by perverts and the ‘politically correct’ , but neither of the other two parties are clean. David Cameron and Milliband as much as Clegg should be scrutinised to make sure they can be entrusted with the safety of our chidren.

  60. This article has some interesting posts:
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/aug/26/rotherham-abuse-report-protection-not-blame

    Arumme CavershamStainmaker 26 August 2014 9:45pm
    You obviously have NO idea of the way the system works.
    Social workers are only the ‘lead agency’ when abuse is within the family. When a perpetrator is external to the family, it’s the police who are in charge. Please have a look at the Working Together guidelines. Social workers can have as many concerns as they like – it’s not up to us. The police and the CPS are the ones making decisions about what happens. If they declare a ‘no crime’, or even worse (as in cases listed in this report) decide that it’s the nasty little slut who is at fault, then social workers have their hands tied. No judge is going to approve a Care Order when the police are denying that anything bad has happened. Social workers can only operate within a legal framework, and if the police won’t back us, there is nowhere to go.

    Aqueuetangle 26 August 2014 7:58pm
    Yes,let’s avoid racial stereotyping, but the reason these evil men escaped justice for so long was precisely because of their race.

    TheGreatRonRafferty 26 August 2014 8:08pm
    I used to post on the BBC Today website.
    There was one poster who repeatedly told the story of this abuse in northern towns. Every time he put it on, the BBC moderators took it off.
    So, the BBC was actually GIVEN the story by a poster, and they chose to ignore it because they deemed it racially offensive, just as the police and social services did.

    MrGadgie 26 August 2014 8:02pm
    Yes. Was going on for years. Nick Griffin was put on trial for mentioning it. Put on trial twice because a Leeds jury acquitted him first time.
    I hate Griffin but facts are sacred.
    Now let’s not pretend Labour didn’t try to cover all this up.

    etc etc! In fact, they have done a better job than many broadsheets! Guardian posts!

    If it is true that Social Services can only act if the abuse is within the family, doesn’t it point towards misconduct within the CPS and the Police, the PC Police! And especially (DT) “Shaun Wright, the Police and Crime Commissioner for South Yorkshire, … after it emerged that he was the councillor with responsibility for children’s services in Rotherham for part of the period covered by the report.”

  61. Let’s try to have the United Kingdom avoid this particular form of national suicide:

    “According to the Los Angeles Times, while introducing Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto, who said America is “the other Mexico,” Brown “spoke about the interwoven histories of Mexico and California.” He “nodded to the immigrants in the room, saying it didn’t matter if they had permission to be in the United States.”
    “You’re all welcome in California,” Brown reportedly said.
    Brown has made California a sanctuary state by signing the Trust Act, giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. He has also expanded financial aid to illegal immigrants by signing the California DREAM Act. Peña Nieto reportedly “thanked state officials for embracing foreigners, citing measures that extend state benefits to immigrants.” “…

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/08/26/Jerry-Brown-to-Mexican-Illegals-You-re-All-Welcome-in-CA

  63. Malfleur @ 23:01

    But, Malfleur, we have moved beyond Brown’s Dream Act, put all immigrants on Welfare.

  64. RobertC @ 22:57

    The MSM will be full of the story for few days, the agencies will issue all manner of apologies, those responsible will wriggle, say they ‘will learn’, never resign, the politicians will promise ‘to look at the findings’ ….

    Then, few years later, the same will happen again, the circus will start anew …

    There have been three reports saying things are awful in Rotherham, they need to change. This is the fourth one. It’s a sure bet there will a fifth, sixth …

  65. Anne Wotana Kaye 1 @ 22:38

    In 21st century Britain, Anne, it seems teaching bonking ranks above teaching math, literacy, morals. We’ve abandoned the basics in our schools, and God, and what we’ve got instead is single parent teenage households.

  66. John birch @ 21:12

    The chair hopping isn’t reserved for Rotherham only, John, it’s the way the public sector operates. It’s a change of a county, or an agency for those sacked. Not that long ago, an NHS boss got the sack from one of the Essex’s Trusts, only to resurface as the boss of a Council in one of the shire counties.

  68. stephen maybery @ 19:09

    You may recall, stephen, it took well over a year and £12mn to get rid of Abu Hamza, unarguably a rotten apple wanted on a serious charge in the Republic. To get rid of someone who just rapes an underage girl wouldn’t be doable, just think of his ‘uman rites’.

  69. From spectator .

    Too late, I lost one with no rude or dodgy words whatsoever.

    Unlike millions of Muslims, I lived in Saudi Arabia (work) so I read the Koran and the Sira, because not understanding Islam as a Christian in Saudi Arabia can lead to lots of dangerous situations.

    I described how the Koran is structured, ie, Early Meccan (tolerance and peace) until the people of Mecca got tired of his insults and ran him and his less than 100 followers out of town.

    The Medinan Koran is much more violent, where he grows his followers, builds an army and slaughters all the non Muslims in Mecca and Medina and so begins 1400 years of Islamic savagery…

    The important thing to know about the Koran is that earlier peaceful passages are abrogated by later violent ones and as they are the Word of God as told by the Arch-Angel Gabriel, they aren’t open to interpretation by any earthly being… do as instructed or suffer the consequences on your day of reckoning….

    The only time Muslims are instructed to be peaceful is when they are outnumbered, otherwise they are commanded to terrorise the unbelievers and show them no mercy.

    So both the peaceful and the violent passages are in the Koran, BUT it is the situation which dictates which ones are followed. If Muslims are weak they are instructed to promote tolerance and peace (for their own preservation) I.e. LIE. As Muslim numbers increase and they get stronger, the message changes to a much more violent one.

    Islam is a numbers game.

    You can see the same pattern in every place in history where Muslims move to. They either arrive with an army and slaughter, or they arrive gradually and become more vocal as their numbers grow – and as soon as they feel they can win the battle, the terror that we read about everywhere else begins.

    It’s always the same pattern because Mohammed wrote the blueprint 1400 years ago… it’s only difficult to see if you really really don’t want to see it…

    Hence I suspect the moderation of posts…

  70. I was driving home from Stoke last night and passed lots of police parked at junctions with lights flashing. Then, on the M1 coming towards St Albans three police cars with a bomb disposal unit all sped past in the outside lane with lights on. I wonder what was happening?

  71. In how many other towns has the abuse of mostly white British children by adult Pakistanis been going on for years? Many others, as will become manifest I think very soon.

    I am interested in what the former MP of Rotherham knew, Denis MacShane. Did he see these reports? What action did he take?

  72. Baron,
    You are absolutely right, Hamza should never have been allowed into the country in the first place, but when his doings came to light he should have been turfed out, but as usual the ruling elite bent over backwards to give him the benefit of our tolerant traditions, traditions he holds in contempt, no wonder our mortal enemies have nothing but derision for us. The same is happening with the Paki paedophiles, aided and abetted by a corrupt bureaucracy constipated with political correctness and petrified at being accused of racism. Political correctness is the Ebola of the mind, and the real thing will prove easier to combat. I am very busy at the moment but later today I will try to post the latest on Lufter Rahman.

  73. stephen maybery
    August 27th, 2014 – 10:03
    Hamza’s sow can often be seen shopping in Westfield, She is clothed in heavy blue robes, with her face concealed, but you can bet your bottom dollar that the scrubber wears flashy porno-style gear under her veils. All this at the expense of the poor tax-payer. She cannot be deported, nor can her pimp sons, because ‘Uman rights protects them. They live in a huge house in Shepherds Bush, whilst English families are often forced to seek refuge in shelters.

  75. I see the ‘ting-tong’ furore in the DT has 314 comments at present; but the Boris/Farage ding-dong is closed to comments.

    Grow up England! And grow up David and Frederick!

  76. Peter 09.49

    Peter these things go on all the time as I am sure you know.
    A few years ago I got stuck on the m25 after midnight along with hundreds if not thousands caught up in a full closure of the motorway both sides of the holmsdale tunnel .
    Seems our pals had tried to bomb the tunnel according to the police on site.
    So there we all were stuck for hours until it was sorted out by bomb squad ect.
    Next day briefly on the radio news delays last night on m25 due to a police incident .

  77. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    August 27th, 2014 – 10:49

    Put the address on Facebook, perhaps some demented soul will firebomb it. Not our fault, no intention of malice etc etc but, since care in the community, you never know what mad sods are about.

    Whilst I know he’s a shit, he might be Shi’ite, so the Sunni’s will be after him. Or vice versa.

  78. In the same week that the Coalition trumpets its intention to pass an Act tightening the law on human trafficing
    ( http://www.theguardian.com/law/2013/aug/25/modern-slavery-bill-human-trafficking ) its inability to control anything other than the outflow of its own toxic emissions, let alone the elephant in the rooom, the cowardice of the local authority officials and departments, police and media who should have protected them, even to expose the horrific mass child white slavery practised in the Yorkshire town of Rotherham by Pakistani muslims.
    These events, which have been widely replicated across the country will continue, whilst a government more interested in preceived injustices abroad resolutely ignores, indeed continues, the destruction of traditional Britain and the Rule of Law.

  79. Clear Memories
    August 27th, 2014 – 12:08
    The address is easy to identify on Google. Afraid the neighbours like most people here are milksops and afraid of saying Boo! Just moan in their cups and let the towelheads abuse them. I am 78 years old, but when I saw the sow I cursed her in arabic, and she rushhed away and the other people seemed embarrassed at my behaviour. Typical!

  80. Upon their return to the Dis-United Kingdom the IS (or ISIS or ISIL or whatever their acronym is today) , torturers, rapists and murderers will, under Coalition plans, be given TASBOs. Presumably this will prevent them surfing the net, going to the off licence and require them to wear a satellite tracking device, to ensure they do not deviate from the approved route between mosque and living room. No need anymore to go and sign on for the Jizya, it’s all done electronically.

    Here’s a better solution; as they have breached the laws in Iraq and Syria, return them there for trial. It won’t happen of course, both those countries having the death penalty and so being considered too barbaric to send our D-UK bred murderous little jihadists back to.

  81. http://www.southyorkshire-pcc.gov.uk/News-and-Events/News-Archive/2014/PCC-response-to-Alexis-Jays-Independent-Inquiry-into-Child-Sexual-Exploitation-in-Rotherham-(1997-to-2013).aspx

    Watching on TV the arrogant “Police and Crime Commissioner”, Shaun Wright, justifying his refusal to resign from his “democratically elected” boondoggle (when he received 19% of the vote in that risible and disgraceful charade some months ago – after having resigned under a cloud as a member of he ‘cabinet’ of Rotherham Council responsible for gross neglect of children in their care who were raped and otherwise abused by Pakistani gangs) made me wonder whether South Yorks Police raid on Cliff Richard’s home is Surrey, was merely a red herring drawn across the imminent exposure of their own past neglect and corruption.

    I have railed in the past about the iniquity of the whole concept of overweening ambitious and corrupt local politicians overseeing Constabulary responsibilities and cite this as yet another example of why the whole misbegotten policy be scrapped forthwith.

    It seems there is nobody with the power to sack him. Why? Mrs May – over to you?

  82. There seems to be almost a complete blackout in the MSM over the current upheaval in French politics (including both the resignation of the PM and the scandal over the IMF woman (?). The news blackout is nothing to do with the clamour here for an EU referendum of course?

    Fortunately, Alex Boot is keeping an eye on things for us:

    http://alexanderboot.com/content/who-says-there%E2%80%99s-little-economic-competition-france

    He has prepared a little feast of an analysis, dripping with the gravy of sardonic wit.

    Out, out, out!

  83. And I hope you caught the ugly mug of Baroness Ashton, as she rubbed shoulders and glad-handed Vlad in the Ukraine yesterday.

    Remind me again, who elected her to represent us in those ‘negotiations’? No chance of her kite being accidentally downed as she attempts to return to her glass palace in Europe, I suppose? What a sad outcome that would be, wouldn’t it?

  84. Forgive me I should have put ‘us’ in parenthesis in line one paragraph two of my 15:50 comment. I’m no longer sure who ‘us’ is (or are).

  85. 6 feb 2012 –47– Pakistani men were sent to Liverpool crown court alltogether, all charged with paedophilia (offences thereof). Why no national press coverage?
    Liverpool has no islamic community to speak of so why did the CPS round these miscreants up from allover and send them there?
    Why were only the BNP and UAF in attendance?

  86. “The German air force is facing such a severe funding shortage that many of its aircraft are unable to fly, mechanics are forced to cannibalise parts from existing planes and only eight of the country’s 109 Eurofighters are fully operational, according to a report in Spiegel magazine. ”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/11057330/German-fighter-jets-unable-to-fly-and-mechanics-forced-to-borrow-spare-parts-claims-magazine.html

    And if you believe that the RAF is in any better condition then prepare to be disabused.
    In the meantime cameron is preparing to sign the D-UK up to operational deployments in the Ukraine and Syria…

    Those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make mad.

  87. Noa – 16:42
    Those whom the Gods wish to destroy they first make them addicted to BB and XFactor! (what ever they are)

  89. 1400 Children Abused by Pakistani Paedo Gangs, £200k A Year Chief Bureaucrat Refuses to Resign

    Austin Barry • a day ago
    How long before we hear our callow, trembling, purblind politicians tell us that;

    (a) this has nothing to do with the Religion of Peace;

    (b) the culprits form only a small minority of the Pakistani community;

    (c) that moderate Muslims (that oxymoronic chimera) are appalled;

    (d) that lessons have been learnt?

    We’ll probably hear every combination of those rampant idiocies before the day is out.

    Discussion on Telegraph

  90. Frank P 17.18

    It’s worse that that

    We haven’t even heard those sulky, meaningless gestures of defiance, an insult to our intelligence.
    Just a sheer. cussed refusal to accept any refusal to accept responsibility for their inactivity.
    “The local authorities, in other words, knew exactly what was going on. Yet still they did nothing. Why?
    Well we’ve already answered that, pretty much. It’s because the kind of politically correct, left-leaning and basically rather thick people that local authorities like Rotherham Council tend to have working for them are so paralysed by modish concerns about cultural sensitivity that they have made an obscene judgement call: better to allow at least 1400 kids to be hideously abused than to be thought guilty of the far greater crimes of being thought a bit racist or accidentally offending someone…”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/27/Rotherham-1400-kids-groomed-drugged-and-raped-by-multicultural-sensitivity

  93. This is all about our very own home-grown coconut (brown outside, white inside) Slapper Abbott. In Evening Standard:

    Rally outside US Embassy to support parents of teenager …
    Evening Standard ‎- by Alexandra Rucki ‎- 7 minutes ago
    The demonstration was organised by campaign group Stand Up To … Solidarity: MP Diane Abbott addresses the crowd (Picture: Stand Up To … “We are sending a message it is wrong of police to shoot unarmed black men.”.

    PITY HYPOCRITE DIANE ABBOTT DOESN’T THINK IT IS WRONG FOR POLICE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS TO TRADE LITTLE GIRLS TO ASIANS! THIS STARTED UNDER A LABOUR GOVERNMENT.

  94. Good news and then just a bit of bad news.
    Earlier it was revealed violent crime at the Carnival had increased since last year.
    In a statement, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, MPS Commissioner, said:
    ‘Although early indications are that reported crime is down at this year’s Notting Hill Carnival, I am concerned by the number of stabbings over the weekend.
    ‘Stabbings are up on last year, and in some cases these are just centimetres from being a murder. Each will be thoroughly investigated and we will do everything possible to ensure those who brought trouble to Carnival are placed before the courts.

  95. I don’t think the poor performance by Manchester United Football Team has been caused by islam.

    It makes the story very unusual, though, of course, I may be wrong.

  96. The Times is doing irony in a big way. They have a headline:

    ‘Heads must roll’ over Rotherham abuse scandal

  97. Richard North exonerates the EU for Rotherham:-

    “…as the detail emerges of the 1,400 or so white girls who were “groomed” and sexually assaulted by gangs of Asian (mainly Pakistani) men, the one institution which does not come away with any blame or shame is the European Union.

    That is not to say that the role of the EU was impeccable – simply that it was irrelevant. The Pakistani men, some of them second or third-generation immigrants, did not come here under EU freedom of movement provisions. They came here under UK law, in accordance with policies decided by UK politicians.

    There was no EU directive that stated that Asian men had a license to rape, or that they should be treated preferentially by public officials, who chose to do nothing for fear of being branded “racist”.

    There is nothing in any EU regulation that I know of that demands that South Yorkshire police should display its usual level of malevolent incompetence, and there is certainly nothing that insists the police complaints system should be unfit for purpose – a closed, self-referential loop that prevents any complaint being pursued to its logical and necessary conclusion.

    Nor can I find any directive that tells us that, of all the many hundreds of officials who were involved in this affair – who took their salaries and will take their pensions for duties they failed to discharge – should escape Scot free, with not a single one disciplined, much less fired.

    In other words, in terms of failures, this is a very British affair. This is something we did to ourselves, without the least outside intervention. The EU can rightly hold up its hands and say “not guilty”.

    And that is the lesson for “Brexit”. Despite the tendency in some quarters to blame the EU for all our woes, many of the evils of our modern society arise from the failings of our own system…”
    http://eureferendum.com/Default.aspx

  98. The list of councils where Pakistani/Bangaldeshi populations are greater than 3%, using official data is:

    Newcastle Upon Tyne – 4%
    Middlesbrough – 5.1%
    Blackburn – 13.1%
    Bolton – 4.5%
    Bury – 5.1%
    Manchester – 9.8%
    Oldham – 17.4%
    Rochdale – 12%
    Tameside – 4.2%
    Trafford – 3.3%
    Burnley – 9.6%
    Hyndburn – 9.8%
    Pendle – 17.5%
    Preston – 3.5%
    Rossendale – 4.1%
    Rotherham – 3%
    Bradford – 22.3%
    Calderdale – 7.1%
    Kirklees – 10.1%
    Leeds – 3.6%
    Derby – 6.2%
    Leicester – 3.5%
    Nottingham – 5.8%
    Stoke on Trent – 4.6%
    East Staffordshire – 5%
    Birmingham – 16.5%
    Coventry – 3.9%
    Dudley – 3.4%
    Sandwell – 6.6%
    Walsall – 7.2%
    Redditch – 3.3%
    Bedford – 4.1%
    Luton – 21.1%
    Peterborough – 6.7%
    Watford – 7.1%
    Camden – 6.4%
    City – 3.3%
    Hackney – 3.3%
    Newham – 21.9%
    Tower Hamlets – 33%
    Wandsworth – 3.7%
    Westminster – 4%
    Barking – 8.4%
    Brent – 5.2%
    Croydon – 3.7%
    Ealing – 4.8%
    Harrow – 3.9%
    Hillingdon – 4.4%
    Hounslow – 6.3%
    Merton – 4.8%
    Redbridge – 16.8%
    Waltham Forest – 12%
    Reading – 4.9%
    Slough – 18.1%
    Windsor – 3.2%
    Aylesbury – 3.2%
    Wycombe – 7.9%
    Oxford – 4.4%
    Woking – 6.2%
    Crawley – 4.7%
    Cardiff – 3.2%
    Newport – 3.3%

    There are rather a lot of councils. But each of these has a greater proportion of population from a Pakistani/Bangladeshi background than Rotherham, where 1400+ children have been abused over many years.

  99. According to papers filed at the high court, Lutfur Rahman, Mayor of Tower Hamlets has been accused of spiritual blackmail. Among the evidence submitted is a letter signed by 101 religious leaders and published in a Bengali news paper, this missive instructs Muslims to vote for Rahman. The Mayors campaign workers were telling people they had a religious duty to vote for him. Rahman has also been accused of postal voting fraud and offering housing in exchange for votes. Rahman has hinted that nullification of the vote could result in civil unrest. I.E., accept this chicanery or their will be rioting or worse.

    The case is an attempt to an attempt have the election result overturned, will it succeed? who knows? but there is a change in the air and people are sick of what is going on. None of the afore mentioned is anything new to the rump of native Brits remaining in this borough. we have known what was going on for years and are accustomed to these matters being swept under the carpet, but, perhaps this time there will be action and these alien fraudsters held to account and imprisoned for their wrongdoings.

  100. Noa @ 17:29

    And even worse than that, Noa. One of the previous reports in 2009 on the shortcomings, failures, and outright criminality of the Council was shelved, the guy who compiled it rebuked. This beggars belief. As does the refusal of Shaun Wright to resign.

    On the ‘World at 5, today the BBC reporter said once ‘men of Pakistani origin’, and the professor who compiled the latest horrors report said the most of the girls even today were managing as best as they could, didn’t get any help, advice from any of the agencies tasked to look after them. She also said Rotherham wasn’t the worst, and the only council that needs sorting, girls from other areas are coming forward, too.

    Blowing the whole set-up to pieces, scrapping the myriad of useless agencies stuffed by apparatchiks who fail, move around, fuck things up again, and starting afresh would seem the best and only way forward.

  101. Baron, to borrow a phrase;-

    One person’s racism is another’s insistence on cultural self-determination for indigenous culture and peoples and rejection of the fantasy of multiculturalism.

  103. Immigration is frequently described as providing a counter-balance to the UK’s ageing population. As an ever-larger proportion of British residents is retired, large numbers of immigrants help keep the average age down and contribute taxes to the Treasury coffers. But how much does Britain benefit – and how does this compare with the costs of a growing population?

    In this new analysis of the economic and demographic consequences of current levels of immigration, the distinguished Cambridge economist Robert Rowthorn finds that the potential economic gains from immigration are modest while the strains placed on infrastructure, such as housing, land, schools, hospitals, water supply and transport systems, are great.

    Rowthorn cites the Office for National Statistics’ high migration scenario, which sees growth in the UK population of 20 million over the next 50 years and 29 million over the next 75 years – entirely from migration. This is equivalent to adding a city almost the size of Birmingham to the UK population every two-and-a-half years for the next three-quarters of a century.

    “Unrestrained population growth would eventually have a negative impact on the standard of living through its environmental effects such as overcrowding, congestion and loss of amenity,” Rowthorn writes.

    The full report can be read here:
    Large-scale Immigration: Its economic and demographic consequences for the UK
    http://www.civitas.org.uk/immigration/LSI

  105. I have just posted the text below on CH, here:
    http://www.conservativehome.com/thetorydiary/2014/08/how-should-britain-counter-the-islamic-state-group-take-our-latest-monthy-survey.html

    Can anyone tell me who these British jihadists are and how I can tell if they are near me? Apparently, there are a lot of them around and it would be comforting to know when any are in my vicinity.
    If no-one can tell me, what am I supposed to do when an ‘Asian looking man or woman’ approaches me, especially when they can imagine that they have been offended, even though I haven’t done anything?

    British jihadist boasts that he would be ‘honoured’ to behead a Western hostage
    Fighter with Islamic State proclaims that his “hands are ready to do this blessed act” as fellow fighter threatens to bring violent campaign back to the West
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11060146/British-jihadist-boasts-that-he-would-be-honoured-to-behead-a-Western-hostage.html

  107. Noa @ 23:12

    First class evidence, Noa, Baron has given it a wider circulation, will keep it in benchmarks, use it when blog ging at the Spectator.

  108. Scotland, or is it the SNP, is worse than we thought:

    More than 100 Scottish business leaders ‘wanted to sign pro-UK letter but feared SNP backlash’
    Gavin Hewitt, former Scotch Whisky Association chairman, claims to The Telegraph that businessmen feared planning applications would be stonewalled by SNP councils
    “Asked what was meant by consequences, Ms Harvie said she was talking about what would happen if someone was “deemed to fall foul of the political view in the Scottish Government”.
    “People are concerned that if they voice an opposing view, in other words against the prospects of independence, [then] grants, contracts, potential applications for planning may be threatened,” Ms Harvie said.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11059895/More-than-100-Scottish-business-leaders-wanted-to-sign-pro-UK-letter-but-feared-SNP-backlash.html

  109. Noa – 23:12 ‘sexual jihad’

    Would Rowan Williams, the previous AoC, who rather liked Sharia, like to make a comment?

  111. It seems the victims of the vile sect raped by the Pakis are in for a nice little earner, up to 140m is being mooted. And it will be the UK taxpayer that coughs up.

    Why?

    What about a nice little tax on Muslims, like they’re very keen to impose on Christians and others. An additional ‘perverts’ property tax on their places of indoctrination, a special landing fee every time one of them sets foot in the UK, an additional landing tax on Emirates, Qatar Airways, Etihad and every other Muslim-subsidised airline.

    Make the bastards pay for the impacts of their vile cult on decent people.

  112. Malfleur @ 23:27

    That’s sickening, Malfleur, it’s turning the clock back to beyond the middle ages. The two raped women will be scared for life. If the governing elites were serious we could declare war on IS, get the returning jihadist on the charge on treason without ever stepping on the lands IS thugs occupy. After all, we declared war on Germany, didn’t fire a shot for while, had no contact with Wehrmacht.

  113. Clear Memories @ 00:27

    That’s an excellent idea, Clear Memories, the muslim community should bear some responsibility for the rape gangs. It’s unbelievable that nobody but the rapists knew about what was going on. They must have known, the local Muslim leaders in particular.

    In all this squalid business Baron finds comfort in the thought that it all works, must work in favour of UKIP, the last hope of a change. Pity Nigel isn’t more vocal, doesn’t issue press releases, organises marches, instructs the UKIP candidates to volunteer interviews for local papers and stuff like that. The girls tragic treatment by the Muslim youth couples neatly with immigration, a burning sore with the electorate for decades. It may sound sordid to say it, but we have cut the boil out, and the sooner the better.

  114. Noa @ 22:47

    Good link, Noa.

    Surprisingly the paper hasn’t been mentioned anywhere, the reasons why shouldn’t surprise, however. The Rodrick scheme of a temporary immigration sounds a good solution, but what Rowthorn fails to address is how likely would the EU endorse it.

  115. Seems the Scots are intent on going their own way, despite warnings they will be short of cash. Perhaps the experience here in Australia can be adapted to benefit both England and Scotland.

    It seems the Scots will still seek to suckle at the nipple of the State and maintain their existing benefit levels, including high health and welfare standards. Only now they will have to fund it themselves! As it seems to be generally agreed that high benefits are an immigrant magnet, England will immediately commence construction of an impermeable border between the two nations, hopefully deterring unlawful invaders transiting to Scotland. As Scotland will not be a member of the EU, its Nationals, nor those holding temporary residence papers will no longer enjoy free movement between the nations.

    England will, however, seek to negotiate rental of a vacant or low-manned Scottish Isle to construct an unlawful invader processing centre. All illegal entrants to England, Wales or Northern Ireland will be transferred immediately to this location where they will be fed, housed and receive basic medical treatment whilst their status to remain is assessed. This will include any found working unlawfully or over-staying their visas. England will pay the Scots to carry out the humanitarian activities on their behalf.

    Those found to not qualify as asylum seekers under the UN conventions, will be returned from Scotland to their home nation (or any other State that will take them), all travel costs being met by England. Scotland may, at its own discretion, grant asylum to any person it so chooses who has been rejected by England and England will meet 50% of their welfare costs. However, no person who unlawfully enters the UK will ever, under any circumstances, be granted residency in the remaining parts of the UK.

    Additionally, all foreign criminals serving a custodial sentence exceeding 12 months will be released to this processing centre whilst a decision is made on whether they will be granted residency as all offences warranting such custodial sentences automatically cancels all residency rights.

    Finally, it shall be an offence to transmit or broadcast by any means any details of actions and activities on the processing centre, its decisions or rulings.

    It’s working here, the boats have stopped and, faced with being released onto Papua New Guinea with no chance of access to the mainland, illegal migrants are volunteering to go home.

  116. Allison Pearson in the telegraph makes the point that concerns me.
    I see this one issue to be a question that needs official answers.
    ( I know we here can answer it , but that’s not the point )

    Let’s start with a riddle. If South Yorkshire Police can mount a raid on Sir Cliff Richard’s home in pursuit of evidence linked to a single allegation of child sex abuse 30 years ago, why were South Yorkshire Police incapable of pursuing multiple allegations against multiple men who raped 1,400 children over 16 years?
    One thousand four hundred. Consider the weight of that number, feel its tragic heft. Picture 50 junior-school classes of little girls in Rotherham, once a respectable northern town, now a byword for depravity. We have seen child-grooming cases before, but the disgusting stories revealed in the report by Professor Alexis Jay amount to evidence of abuse on an industrial scale.

    On another point, would you rather your young daughter fondled by some so called celebrity or gang raped by a bunch of retarded scumbags from Pakistan .
    Difficult isn’t it.

  118. Douglas Carswell M.P. joins UKIP.// M.P. for Clacton (with Frinton and Walton-on -the-Naze.)

  119. Radford NG – 11:25

    And he is stepping down as a (Tory) MP and will stand in a bye-election as a UKIP candidate, before the General Election.

    DT: UKIP leader Nigel Farage, who this week was selected to fight South Thanet at the 2015 general election, said it was the “bravest and most honourable” decision he had ever seen in British politics.

  120. John birch – 06:57

    With reports of muslims discouraging any investigation, let alone what has happened elsewhere, how can anyone trust them in public office, or anywhere for that matter?

  124. Home Secretary Theresa May says Shaun Wright should “heed calls” to resign
    Remarks like this just prove what a wet lot the government are. I have said it before, and I apologise for repeating myself, BUT A NATIONAL CRISIS CALLS FOR A STATE OF EMERGENCY – Stop whining May and act!

  127. ‘the muslim community should bear some responsibility for the rape gangs. ‘

    -Yes, I know when burglary swept the 99.99% white Council Estate I grew up on; we ‘as a community all stepped forward to bare responsibility for what the burglars did.’
    After all, everyone knew who the burglars were didn’t they?
    Who didn’t know someone who owned a nicked VHS in the 1980s?
    So we all ‘bared the responsibility together’. The weird Marxist language of passive inaction became a living reality for ‘our community’. ps everyone got burgled in the end. As a community.

    ‘It’s unbelievable that nobody but the rapists knew about what was going on. They must have known, the local Muslim leaders in particular.’

    -You and I know now exactly what is ‘going on’ today.

    You & I know that non-Muslim Council workers are providing girls with contraceptives and sex instruction ‘lessons’ (1.) in schools & Care Homes/Brothels right near where you live.(2.) Have been for years.
    You recall ‘Care Workers’ use Council funds to buy ‘sexy undies’ (3.) for children in their ‘care’ to better turn on their ‘boyfriends’ in the local gangs.

    We know all about it, we must do. Try asking the locals, reading the news (2).

    ‘In all this squalid business Baron finds comfort in the thought that it all works, must work in favour of UKIP, the last hope of a change. ‘

    In Rotherham the twisted bi**ch Head of Social Services (still in post…about £200k pa from memory…) removed adopted children (3 from Eastern Europe) from a local couple because a member of the ‘local community’ had shopped them. Their crime? Being members of UKIP.
    That’s how important and powerful UKIP is today.
    It’s member’s families can be hunted down and the children put into Council child brothels to be shared around….because they joined UKIP.

    Surely the local UKIP/white/professional child services/Muslim/political….Community must know about this?

    (…I’ll tell ya somin…the violent gang rapist community certainly know; and seem to be acting accordingly….)

    Boy, those ‘white Christian communities’ suuuure can swing into action and take no chances with ‘child protection’ when it suits them…..(4)

    ‘Pity Nigel isn’t more vocal, doesn’t issue press releases, organises marches, instructs the UKIP candidates to volunteer interviews for local papers and stuff like that. ‘

    Good list.
    You mean ‘pity this political party has not taken ANY POLITICAL ACTION WHATSOEVER including not even SAYING any WORDS’ when it realised a whole town had been turned into a white girl’s Rape Camp for over a whole generation.
    The early victims would be providing their daughters for the same men to gang **** who first gang ****ed them…..driven in taxis from the same school classrooms they were picked up from….

    Surely he must know???
    What are the Muslim Community going to doooo to protect our daughters for them???

    ‘The girls tragic treatment by the Muslim youth couples neatly with immigration, a burning sore with the electorate for decades.’

    Is it?
    A burning sore Baron?
    If you have a ‘sore’ that is ‘burning’ what would you do?
    Sigh….remember this?

    ‘Minister confirms ‘no limits’ policy on immigrants seeking work in UK
    By George Jones, Political Editor’
    12:01AM BST 05 Apr 2004′

    ‘Tony Blair was last night fighting to prevent the political row over immigration spiralling out of control after ministers confirmed that the Government was operating a “no limit” policy on the number of immigrants entering Britain to work.
    Patricia Hewitt, the Trade and Industry Secretary, said Britain’s labour shortages meant more immigrant workers were needed. She rejected the idea of imposing any limit or quota as “old-fashioned central planning”.

    She got re-elected then promoted.
    He got re-elected.

    Surley the white electorate must have known about this at the time….they SIMPLY MUST have…what, with the constant wall to wall media coverage…the declarations of ‘no limits’…the evidence of their own eyes when they looked at the people around them, the children at schools……

    ‘Burning sore’ it aint. Not with the people who vote anyway.

    ‘It may sound sordid to say it, but we have cut the boil out, and the sooner the better.’

    Careful what you wish for Barron because…….
    They have.
    The Great British People made their decision.
    They decided to ‘cut the sore out’ of public life in England, but WE are that sore…you are appealing to a common decency in the English people that does not exist and has not for some time. Fact.

    You are appealing to instincts of racial/spiritual/cultural/religious/financial/national self preservation that do not exist and have not for some time. True.

    UKIP poll about 11% on surveys with a 3-5% margin of error.

    If you want to see some ‘Back To School’ images from the non-Muslim, non-political sphere, try these……

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718720/American-Apparel-resorting-porn-sell-Back-School-range.html

    … they sell a School Mini-Skirt called ‘Lolita Mini’.

    They do this because they KNOW IT WILL APPEAL TO BRITISH CONSUMERS, PARENTS, FAMILIES, GIRLS….why else dear Barron?

    Believe it or not, I’m not on your case Barron.

    The above could be directed at perhaps…I dunno…85% of my fellow
    countrymen.
    I’m as angry and ‘ashamed’ of my country as the next man but I’m not prepared to let ‘my country’ off the hook.

    Out for drinks over Summer, some girls (24 & 25 yrs) were telling me all about how they SIMPLY LOVED going to lap dancing bars. A mate told me, ‘Oh year John, the girls at my place are into that too…..’

    Sexual Babylon did not impose itself on us, it was invited & demanded by the people.
    We should stop blaming the bogey man Bad Politicians we elect again and again or the primitives who act as they always have and always will.
    Why shouldn’t they stop?
    They are primitives after all.
    They can pick up their entertainment straight from the classroom (various press reports) in broad daylight …year after year.
    Stop? Why?
    If you were a decent family member of a gang rapist would YOU go to the Dog S*** Police?
    For all we know THEY DID!
    The dog s*** police wouldn’t be telling us now would they.
    For all we know they may have been ringing them up….70 or was it 120 times. Made no difference.

    This is a dog **** country of cowards, liars and thieves.
    Men must take direct action to defend their families from the state and it’s agents.
    We should stop lying about who WE have become.
    We should stop pretending ‘It’s someone else’s fault’.
    We should stop predicting someone else will do anything to fix things.
    There is ZERO political salvation on the horizon, pretending there is is dangerous to all, but especially geriatrics at the mercy of the NHS or children anywhere; in ‘care’, walking the streets, in state school classrooms etc.
    We have the most dangerous and corrupt Police in the western world.
    We have the most dangerous and corrupt Courts in the western world.
    The MSM has metastasised into a fully fledged State-Media Complex; complete with trial by ‘public disgrace’. All newspapers, radio broadcasts, dramas, tv ‘news’, advertising ‘messages’ political party ‘slogans’ or ‘campaigns’ even England World Cup Football Team selection are subject to direct clear political influence.
    Blaming ‘the Muslims’ is a luxury for cowards who are looking for excuses to do nothing.

    I wish I could imagine some positive way forward for England. I cannot.

    1.’Effective sex and relationship education would ideally achieve four things: it would put sex into a healthy context as an enjoyable and safe activity’

    ‘Telegraph Online’ advocating introducing sex as ‘fun’ to seven year old children just out of the infants.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/better-sex-education/11056891/Sex-education-is-more-important-than-ever.html

    2.’Please don’t find false consolation in believing this is a problem confined to a handful of northern towns, because it isn’t. I’ve seen enough evidence to know that it’s happening in every part of the country and, in fact, is probably happening somewhere near you right now.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2736219/Even-police-blinded-liberal-dogma-writes-SIMON-DANCZUK.html#ixzz3BgG3l0MI
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
    ‘

    3.

    Will no one take the blame? As gang took girl of 12 as a sex slave, her father was walking the streets in vain, clutching her photo

    The girls braved a hostile interrogation in court, branded liars by the gang’s barristers. A QC suggested one girl of 13 had ‘enjoyed herself’ during sex.

    Another suggested they were ‘naughty girls doing grown-up things’. But the jury believed them. SAM GREENHILL and INDERDEEP BAINS recount their awful stories.
    FROM BRIGHT, HAPPY CHILD, TO LOST SOUL
    A classroom swot, Girl A was a ‘bright and happy child’ from a loving home.

    Then, aged 12, she turned into a ‘lost soul’……

    etc etc etc….

    ‘Their daughter would return home refusing to say where she had been. Often, her lips were cracked, her skin was filthy and her hair was matted.

    Her parents repeatedly reported her missing to police, and begged social services for help, but were met with indifference – and after 70 occasions, they lost count.
    Eventually her father was actually asked by police to stop looking for her – astonishingly because officers ‘felt it was detrimental to her wellbeing’.’

    […surely someone in the Police Community must know they are directly preventing parents stopping their daughters from being gang raped etc etc…good job we have parents who understand the authority of Law & Order…from what I can tell the father went home to watch tv or something….]

    SEVENTY TIMES they recorded their bleating down the phone…..after that they couldn’t be arsed.
    The only reason for this is to PREPARE A CLAIM FOR FINANCIAL COMPENSATION to be PAID TO THEM as parents. Any other suggestions?
    I recon they found out there was no money in it so stopped.
    I recall one ‘mother’ recalling to the Observer (4-5 years ago) telephoning police 120 times before she found out there was no £ in it then stopped….oh…but the Council provided ‘sexy undies’………..sorry…..

    ‘She was eventually taken into care, to the relief of her ‘heartbroken’ […and doubtless finger broken with all the inevitable ‘999’ dialing ] parents, who hoped she would at last be safe. But if anything, she became less so

    Her abusers brazenly came to pick her up from the care home – staff simply let her walk out the front door.

    She even told police a 25-year-old man, Akhtar Dogar, was forcing her to have sex.

    The reaction from police? ‘They threatened on a number of occasions to arrest me for wasting police time,’ is the heart-stopping answer given by Girl A.

    She is now 21, having rescued herself from her horrific life by walking away, going to college and finding a job. But as she puts it: ‘Adults should be doing their jobs. It is not down to a child.’

    [Now hold on a minute!!! Do you know how many times they telephoned the police????]

    ….sexy undies…..

    ‘ According to her adoptive mother, staff at a children’s home actually bought ‘sexy underwear’ and stiletto-heeled boots for the girl, despite knowing she was being sold for sex.

    She visited home one day wearing ‘a hideous lacy black and red corset’, said her mother, who add: ‘She lay on her bed and sucked her thumb and we sang nursery rhymes to try to soothe her.’

    http://andrewazzopardi.org/2013/05/16/girl-12-years-was-raped-injected-with-heroin-branded-and-sold-for-sex-at-600-an-hour-dailymail/

    (4)

    To distract from the Westminster/MI5/Special Branch child sex/child murder ring, the same ‘Police’ who facilitated the Rotherham Rape Camps sent (from memory 60) Officers to cliff Richard’s home after coordinating their effirts with the BBC to produce maximum distraction value. Helicopters included. Over ONE thirty year old ACCUSATION.
    Surely, someone in the Police or BBC must KNOW about this and…..

    Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    August 27th, 2014 – 19:16

    Hi Anne.

    Your telling me that that (spiritually) ugly, ugly, racist, lying b***h is protesting outside foreign Embassies?
    She wants the American Police to take her advice? Her instruction? After they have lost control of London time and again in recent years?

    It’s an insult to sanity.
    The people of London will re-elect her with a massive majority. Again.

    If you are feeling at all under the weather, honestly; don’t read my above post.
    Not a lot of laughs.
    Laughs you want?
    Try this….for my children on their first day at school next week….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKp_Jvqhy4Y

    …..take it away Nellie!

    ps Is Verity around these days….didn’t see her above

  131. Oh Dear,

    The current UKIP Parliamentary candidate for Clacton is not amused; he has been cuckolded and won’t go without a squawk. Lots of Johnny-cum-lately invective. Better get a grip Nige; what with ‘ting tong’ ringing in the background ‘n’ all, the timing could become a clanging car crash.

  132. They had a university academic on Radio this lunchtime. They asked him what the chances were of Carswell winning as a UKIP candidate. I think the presenter was out out when the academic said that Clacton was the #1 ideal UKIP contest, and that Carswell also had such local support that his victory was a foregone conclusion.

  133. I’ve always thought it would be a good idea for East Anglia to secede from the band and unilaterally declare independence. Perhaps this could be the start; Clacton in the by-election; Thanet in the GE. The thin edge of the wedge? Where could we draw the border? 🙂

  134. The ISEA; a Judeo-Christian/Secular Caliphate; any trace of Islam removed (voluntarily of course)!

  135. It must be April 1st!

    EU to ban high-energy hair dryers, smartphones and kettles
    European Union to ban dozens of high-wattage household electrical appliances in follow-up to controversial ban on powerful vacuum cleaners

    “The European Union is to pull the plug on high-wattage hair dryers, smartphones, electric kettles and dozens of household electrical appliances in a follow up to a controversial ban on powerful vacuum cleaners
    New proposals are expected next spring to meet EU targets on energy efficiency by outlawing small electrical devices that European officials regard as using too much electricity.
    Current EU legislation covers televisions, washing machines, refrigerators and vacuum cleaners but not the variety of smaller sized electrical appliances used in the daily life of households across Europe.
    A European Commission study, that is still being completed, has identified up to 30 electrical appliances to be covered by the EU’s Ecodesign directive outlawing high-wattage devices including electric kettles, hair dryers, wifi routers and smartphones.
    Günther Oettinger, the German EU energy commissioner, said that legislation preventing consumers from buying high-wattage appliances was necessary to fight climate change.”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11061538/EU-to-ban-high-energy-hair-dryers-smartphones-and-kettles.html

    Lower powered kettles to save the Planet?

    Absolutely bonkers! Just like the rest of the Climate Change deceit.

    (For those who are half asleep, if kettles have less power, the water will take longer to boil!)

  138. John Richardson August 28th, 2014 – 13:25

    John your post was slightly incoherent a tad all over the place, not easy to read.

  140. Michael Roberts – 20:44

    JR cannot as p155ed off as I am over the Euro-kettle fiasco!

    It is just unbelievvvvvvable that a fully grown man could broadcast such an idiotic statement to the world! Even from Brussels, it is astonishing:

    “Günther Oettinger, the German EU energy commissioner, said that legislation preventing consumers from buying high-wattage appliances was necessary to fight climate change.”

    I thought Germans had some technical knowledge. Obviously, this one doesn’t. But then, with his Euro-emoluments, most people would do anything for it to continue.

  141. “Günther Oettinger, the German EU energy commissioner, said that legislation preventing consumers from buying high-wattage appliances was necessary to fight climate change.”

    May his kettle to forever to boil and also his hair.

  142. RobertC 21.06

    Yes: you do wonder sometimes whether it is a completely disingenuous and cynical plan to wear people down with one stupid project after another, however barmy and knowingly so, or simply the result of completely insulated from reality sheer bloody ignorance. Probably both.

    Pray that Douglas Carswell’s honourable leap of faith might encourage a few more.

  149. National Suicide Watch

    ISIS strips 250 Syrian soldiers, marches them to mass execution…

    Mohammed becomes most popular name — in Oslo…

    (Drudge Report)

  150. What has been happening in Rotherham constitutes what the CPS these days calls conspiracy to pervert the course of justice,does it not.Another charge is being an accessory after the fact.

  151. I posted a while back (with links, supporting data etc) about how all the efforts of the various charities, including the Sainted Bob, had done nothing to alleviate poverty in Africa but had merely served to increase the population enormously, effectively ensuring far greater and more widespread suffering.

    It remains my contention that Africans, as a species, are destined for extinction; they have no saving graces that indicate they should be allowed to survive, they are by nature barbaric and savage – at the extremes, Rwanda and Ferguson prove this – and they have an almost pathological, instinctive urge to violently attack all other races, especially whites. (the statistics are freely available). Frankly, left to their own devices in the 19th Century, they wouldn’t be the problem they are now.
    Whether one believes in God or Evolution, it is difficult to avoid the fact that, time and time again, events conspire against this damned Continent and, without the hand-wringing collusion and interference of western liberals, they would be gone and the world undoubtedly a better and safer place.

    Perhaps we now have the opportunity to be rid of this problem. Where-ever Ebola evolved, it is not of our making; it is not our problem. The ‘whining’ is already starting – “if it affected whites, there would be a cure”, “if there’s an experimental vaccine, give it them” as opposed to “it’s wrong to test experimental vaccines on Africans”.

    So, let us keep our noses out. Let’s seal the place off like a plague ship. Those that insist on going to ‘help’ be told they cannot return. If the un-numbered hordes can’t float out or fly out, they’ll have to walk, and that means going through Arab lands. I wish them luck with that. But then, they might solve another of the West’s problems.

  152. There was a suggestion on the Alex Jones show the other day that the British Labour Party has been involved in child sex trafficking using minorities as a cover and that this was the reason for the hush-hush. Is there any substance to this allegation, does anyone know?

  153. NATO’s masters, whoever they may be, are having another go at inciting war with Russia in what the Daily Telegraph’s correspondent is hinting is yet another disinformation campaign by the West with this new story of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/markets/11062196/Markets-take-fright-as-Russian-tanks-roll-into-Ukraine.html

    Does our Prime Minister support this war-mongering in support of Ukrainian Nazis in defence of the US Vice-President’s Ukrainian oil and gas interests..? ? I suppose he has to. No-one out in the streets? Not even the old leftist rent-a-mob…? No, only the islamo-fascists – everyone else in full “I’m alright Jack” mode…

  154. Malfleur
    August 29th, 2014 – 06:33
    Could well believe they would do anything to cling to the moslem vote, but no actual evidence. However, Harriet Harman and her ilk are well known proponents of child sex.

  155. I have to say one has to be careful with high-profile defections because of the Trojan Horse.

    What if Carswell stabs Farage in the back at some point?

    It was quite clear during the European elections that UKIP had been infiltrated by lots of these who timed their exits with maximum media timing damage. There was a very memorable youth member (Asian girl) who did just that.

    Big Media have ignored UKIP since that victory (they either smear or ignore).

    But now Big Media write it up as Carswell’s story. He won’t have lost all his links to the establishment. Watch out with that. Drink with the devil, then take a long spoon.

    Rather than being Carswell’s story, this is the story of the people of Essex and elsewhere.

    Carswell’s ‘man of principle’ charade doesn’t fool me. No politician is ever a man of principle and if they say so, run a mile.

    Carswell knows what side his bread is buttered on. And where the voters are headed. He did not want to lose his seat to UKIP.

    And he would have.

    I have a relative in Essex who runs a breakdown recovery firm. He reports that everybody who gets in the cab when the vehicle is being towed plans to vote UKIP at the next election.

    I know chatter in a breakdown truck cab is only a straw poll, but look at the European election results there.

    UKIP were on course to win. Carswell or not.

    The fear is that if, at any point, Carswell exits, the media will write it up as: ‘Ah, look, you’ve lost your star turn. End of UKIP.’

    The people were already on the march in Essex and Carswell didn’t want to get left behind.

    Forget all the tat you read about him being ‘intellectual’ and a ‘man of principle’.

    No. This was a case of running with the herd for fear of being left behind.

    I’m not keen on ex-this and ex-that going into UKIP but just look at the level of smears thrown at the party by the Daily Mail and Telegraph in those European elections.

    They do need someone to take that flak.

    Other than that, isn’t it nice to know the end of LibLabCon cartel is on its way.

    That’s the good part. But I don’t want the people to stop now and defer to people like Carswell.

    I want them to keep on marching.

    I want LibLabCon wiped out.

    Forever.

  156. Helen J
    August 29th, 2014 – 09:35
    Helen, you sound a wise lady.
    Carswell’s ‘man of principle’ charade doesn’t fool me. No politician is ever a man of principle and if they say so, run a mile.
    That says it all!

  157. Malfleur, that suggestion on the Alex Jones show is almost certainly true.

    Most of the modus operandi has actually now been covered in official media, with only the names of the politicians (LibLabCon) redacted for obvious reasons.

    There never will be charges brought to those at the top for the same reason Cyril Smith was never charged.

    This Scottish Labour scandal has been all over this internet for years but this is the first time I have seen it covered in MSM (politicians’ names redacted of course):

    By Frederick Forsyth

    Daily Express

    Friday 11 July 2014

    HEADLINE: ‘Will buried Dunblane files reveal a sinister cover-up?’

    THE debauching of a child for personal gratification is a filthy perversion and an equally filthy crime in statute law.

    Yet revelations – Savile, Smith, Hall, Harris – seem to inform us that this perversion is a lot more widespread than many had ever imagined.

    Hardly a week goes by without another iconic individual being exposed or cyber police tracing networks of online perverts who want to watch and presumably gloat.

    The idea that this is a victimless activity, “I was only looking at images”, is rubbish. These libraries of filth, pain, humiliation, even torture, have to be ordered and paid for.

    That enables others to set up the studios, groom the children and film the obscenities that then occur. If no one paid for bread there would be no farmers growing wheat.

    The fact that the high and mighty are in no way immune to this vice means that when they are threatened with exposure immensely powerful forces are brought to bear to accomplish a high-level cover-up.

    This seems to have happened in the case of the list of names handed to the Home Office years ago by the late Geoffrey Dickens, MP. It just vanished.

    But the strangest cover-up I have ever witnessed (or suspected because it was highly successful) concerned what liaisons and practices lay behind the Dunblane massacre of 1996.

    We were all told to believe that a single psychopath, Thomas Hamilton, with a private armoury, stalked into a kindergarten in a Scottish village, murdered 16 children and one teacher, then shot himself. So sad.

    Senior Scottish lawyer Lord Cullen was asked to prepare an investigation and report. He did both. It was one of the weirdest documents the Scottish establishment has ever produced; not because of what it said but what it refused to ask or investigate.

    Lord Cullen apparently held 100 hearings in public then six crucial ones in private. He decreed his report should be buried for 100 years.

    But that is longer than our nuclear secrets have to remain confidential. So what did those last six witnesses reveal?

    Others came forward, not summoned, never heard by officialdom, to allege Hamilton was a practising pervert and pederast.

    That he had free access to a nearby boys’ boarding school and could be seen prowling the dormitories after lights out.

    That he was the “trawler” for likely boys for a ring of extremely senior figures including police chiefs, lawyers, judges and Freemasons, plus very senior figures in Scottish Labour.

    Witnesses disappeared, changed their minds. Editors about to assign investigative reporters were advised that would be most unwise.

    The village bobby of Dunblane was transferred so far north he was practically waist deep in the North Sea.

    If cover-up it was, and I have not the slightest doubt, it remains one of the most successful ever.

    Officially it remains a case of a single psychopath, with guns he should never have had, who sort of went doolally and committed mass murder.

    But why? Don’t ask. What about that boys’ school? Don’t ask. Why did so many close to the scene become Trappists? Don’t ask. And why was the Cullen Report buried for 100 years? There above all, don’t ask.

    http://www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/frederick-forsyth/488066/Frederick-Forsyth-on-major-cover-ups-airport-ethnic-screening-and-the-French-media

  159. The other aspect to all this that may one day make it into the newspapers (the dogs on the street seem to know, so why does Fleet Street pretend not to?) is the link between Elm Guest House and the man who claims he was fitted up for Jill Dando’s murder.

    Barry Bulsara was convicted on the flimsiest of grounds (it was a speck of forensic dust where there should have been a pile of it) andhe has already had one failed appeal.

    But why would the Home Office fit up Barry Bulsara?

    Well, this is the same Home Office that ‘lost’ all the dossiers it received from Geoffrey Dickens MP.

    So don’t put anything past them.

    Barry Bulsara cam forward a few years before he was charged with Jill Dando’s murder and complained to the Home Office that he was one of the young boys abused in Elm Guest House (politicians’ favourite place for this sort of thing).

    At that point, someone in the Home Office wanted Bulsara forgotten.

    He became a marked man.

    Even if he is ever acquitted of the murder of Jill Dando, he will only ever be known as a madman (most ex-abuse victims go on to have lives of homelessness and/or addiction and so on).

    One should not be able to think the Home Office capable of such things.

    But if a member of parliamant like Geoffrey Dickens MP can walk in there and have entire dossiers just, er, go missing, it suggests there are some very nasty people indeed working at the highest levels in Whitehall.

    The Cyril Smith case is another example of cover-up at the highest level.

  160. For all the words the MSM has printed in Rotherham, it’s what is happening elsewhere that intrigues.

    Like the Comments section on the MSM websites.

    The Telegraph (an evil newspaper) has ‘Comments are closed’ everywhere but when people are allowed to comment on Rotherham, the comments are soon deleted.

    The other aspect to this is Common Purpose.

    This cover-up was co-ordinated by people in – Julia Middleton’s favourite role – positions of leadership.

    In other words, where they could influence. Senior police, senior social workers and so on.

    They co-ordinated this cover up because it’s part of the common purpose (wipe out the indigenes).

    The strategy is very rarely seen above the water, but surfaced when that couple were banned from fostering for being UKIP supporters (that was Rotherham and Joyce Thacker).

    Notice how membership of the Common Purpose club means massive taxpayer pay-off, followed by, hey presto, another job in another council with another whopping salary.

    Oh yes, it pays to be part of Common Purpose too. Social engineering needs to be funded.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2737234/The-childrens-chief-clinging-115-000-job-despite-mounting-evidence-complacency-period-child-abuse.html

  161. No body seems to have mentioned the roll of the Imams, after all their are many areas where ‘the plod’ need to seek their permission before making an arrest, notably in places like Bradford and Huddersfield where their seems to have been relatively few incidences wrt local Pakistani population size.

  162. Have we reached the point where anyone with the word ‘diversity’ in their job title should have their employment terminated, and to be prohibited from receiving publicly funded employment for at least ten years?

    It is like having people specially employed in hospitals to spread disease, with a bonus regime that rewards success, and penalties if they wash their hands.

  163. Indeed, the imam is in effect a mafia don. Plenty of people will do him favours. Pure as the driven snow they aren’t.

    The other point is the way the taxis just went to care homes. That is endemic in that culture. For ‘Care Home’ read paedophile supermarket.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11062897/Rotherham-Brazen-sex-abusers-sent-taxis-to-collect-girls-from-childrens-home.html

    The point is not to abuse in the care home. The point is to do what Savile did: get them out on away days, on little trips here and there.

    The small fry paedos will get them in care home premises and taxis, but the higher up society’s ladder you go, the further away they need to go.

    Anyone fancy a trip on Ted Heath’s yacht Morning Cloud?

    Concrete shoes provided.

  164. Come on Cameron, you are the PM!

    The muslims think they are winning, that is why they are so brazen.

    Dropping bombs in Iraq will not impress them. Through investigation of their ‘charities’ would though. Stopping mosques being built would and refusing jihadists re-entry to Britain would, removing all translation services would, removing the racist legislation that makes the indigenous population second class citizens would, but wait, Brussels won’t let you.

    This report has nothing to do with muslims. The mention of Friday prayers is just a false flag, honest:
    Al-Qaeda manual encourages attacks on Marks and Spencer stores in UK
    Not to be outdone by Isil, al-Qaeda publishes English-language ‘shopping list’ for making bombs that can be used to attack British and American targets

    Royal Military Academy Sandhurst – Camberley
    Marks & Spencer stores – during Friday Prayers (muslims will be praying)
    Thames House, London (MI5 HQ)

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/al-qaeda/11062765/Al-Qaeda-manual-encourages-attacks-on-Marks-and-Spencer-stores-in-UK.html

  165. Helen J
    August 29th, 2014 – 09:35
    Helen, my husband is a member of UKiIP (I do not have membership in any party), and he was very impressed with your posting above. He asks if he may have permission to quote your posting, on the blog Political Betting. He will of course show your name as the writer.

  166. Noa

    The Roger Lord – Doug Carswell affair is getting out of hand. Two UKIP candidates for Clacton in the by-election?

    WTF???!!!

  168. Frank P – 13:31

    Yes, it’s a bit sad, really, especially if this report is true:

    Ukip’s Clacton candidate, who is refusing to give way to Douglas Carswell, is now considering defecting himself – to the Conservative party.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2014/08/roger-lord-ukips-original-clacton-candidate-may-defect-tories

    It might be a good ploy for the Tory Party for him to stand for them in the bye-election. It would give Boris a bye 🙂 and CMD another chance to avoid making a decision 🙂 🙂 🙂 , but I can’t see how ‘considering’ a defection can help one’s prospects 🙁 .

    Politics is a topsy turvy world, even if everyone is ‘above board’, and commitment is so important. If this report is true, it makes Carswell’s stance relatively stronger and Lloyd’s less credible, even if he has previously put a lot of constituency work: very puzzling.

    I agree that there is a ‘little local difficulty’ in Clacton, but Carswell has been a fantastic scalp, positive for UKIP, negative for the Tories and confusing for the Lib Dems 🙂 . It needs to be acknowledged as such by anyone who wants to remain credible. We can pass comment from afar, but the devil is always in the detail, so lets hope it comes out in the Wash – even though that would entail moving North for the solution. As has been pointed out, there are probably more Tory moles out there, and some may change their mind later, but the problem knowing who they are. No doubt the press will not be lax in informing us of the slightest ripple – with added helicopters, if available.

    There are still people saying they need a new party that represents their exact views, and there are several anti-EU parties around, but considering how UKIP were ridiculed for being spread so thinly and without experience, it does appear that now UKIP has momentum, it should be obvious that making a political breakthrough is the first objective.

    I shall now report Carswell’s remark that has appeared on the Telegraph front page:

    Carswell: ‘Britain is still run like it was under Tony Blair’
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/douglascarswellmp/100284393/clacton-calling/

  169. RobertC (14:33)

    “… it makes Carswell’s stance relatively stronger and Lloyd’s less credible, ”

    Don’t blame Lloyds bank for this balls-up! Both ‘candidates’ strike me as less as Lloyds bankers, more as Kuwaiti tankers, but then again Cockney Rhyming Slang is nothing if not flexible.

  170. Meanwhile ISIS flows through Syria and Iraq,with less restrictions than the Isis at Oxford. The Iffley Lock in Oxon provides more resistance than the iffy President in Washington and that other Oxford Product – CMD – combined.

  171. Btw if Carswell is going into opposition politics seriously he should consider facial surgery. His mandible needs fixing. The ‘optics’ (new buzz word) are irritating. Perhaps he should consult the surgeon who schnickled Miliminor’s schnozzle? Or perhaps he was struck off as a result of that disastrous piece of work?

  172. Frank P – 14:47

    I wouldn’t be too judgemental at the moment, especially when being recorded or in print.
    Lord, (my mistake in my last post) did seem to be encouraged by the interviewer to be outrageous, and only just managed to avoid a complete disaster by a force of nature taking charge – the wind! Being troubled by wind usually causes more problems than it solves, so he was ‘lucky’ that time and he may still have a few political lives left.

  173. Frank P – 15:16

    I thought you would be opposed to beauty contests, for the men, at least!

  175. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    August 29th, 2014 – 12:13

    By all means!

    Please give a big up to this Coffee House Wall website too!

    Coffee House Wall seems to allow comments to stay online, unlike MSM websites.

    This MSM manipulation of online opinion (much more difficult for them when they just had print) is becoming more and more co-ordinated.

    Websites such as this are the only sort of place where free-flowing debate seems to happen online nowadays.

    All MSM websites manipulate and distort their Comments just as much as they do with everything else!

  177. By the way, I see UKIP are red-hot bookies’ favourites (they won’t want to lose out).

    I’ll eat my bonnet if Carswell loses.

    What do you know? The most damaging story to the Tories for years is usurped by ‘UK terror threat upgraded to severe’.

    Ooooooh!

    No rest for the wicked – just ask Lyton Crosby!

    With the Sayeeda Warsi story rumbling on, Lynton ordered Boris Johnson on to the front pages to scotch that story. Crosby and Cameron have decided to Ride The Boris Tiger.

    He wants Dave’s job, yes. But they also believe he can help Dave win the general election (he can’t usurp Dave for at least 18 months) and get public support for more action in Iraq.

    Boris Johnson – the only mainstream Tory whom the public (misguidedly in my view) give any credibility to thus wrote that piece last week pretending to be on their side and wanted to bomb, bomb, bomb in the Middle East. This is the Boris Johnson who a few years ago wrote a column saying Iran should get the bomb.

    So there’ll be plenty more of that from Johnson.

    Miraculously wiping the Carswell story off the front pages, and priming the British for more war abroad, the terror threat is upgraded.

    Britain needs no more war abroad. It has no money and no armed forces. Any such involvement is a distraction from the war on British soil that has see Lee Rigby’s head cut off and people blown to pieces on 7/7.

    That’s the war that tough guy Dave will never, ever fight.

    When there are mass repatriations, you can believe it.

    That is the problem. That is the issue.

    Not abroad.

    Forget abroad.

    Anything else is just Dave and Boris leading people up the garden path, with Lynton Crosby showing them how to do it.

    Poiting fingers outside the tent is a distraction from what’s going on inside it.

  178. Tony Blair: the UK is within 45 minutes’ range of Saddam.

    Heir to Blair (Telegraph headline): ‘Isil terrorists highly likely to attack UK, says David Cameron’

    Same old playbook. And you know it will happen by the kind of deference being shown to these utterances.

    Make him look statesmanlike in election run-up.

    Western intervention in Iraq is cast-iron certainty. Either Dave is going to give St Barack political cover. Or he’ll offer bomber planes too.

    I think Dave will want to polish off the PC credentials and so will offer RAF help too.

    Obama at least is going in, with the MSM railroading public opinion that way.

    And Dave’s po-faced ‘I mean it, man’ look is also copied straight off Blair.

    I’m not a pacificist and I don’t mind war, but the war has reached Western shores, where it needs fightint and the enemy purging. Forget Iraq.

  179. ‘And you know it will happen’ – by which I mean Western intervention in Iraq.

    This is all stage-managed opinon massaging.

  180. I am glad that people are appreciating being able to post freely here on the Coffee House Wall. Our monthly unique visitor numbers are over 75,000. When the site went down for a day earlier this month a lot of people contacted me to say how much they missed the conversation here.

    Let me say that there are costs associated with keeping the site going and if any of our thousands of visitors wish to help keep the lights on by making a donation of any amount at all, then please consider doing so using the Donation link.

  181. The UK’s terror threat level is being raised from “substantial” to “severe” in response to conflicts in Iraq and Syria, the government announces.
    More likely because the BBC for once showed a little bit of guts and mentioned the ‘P’ word, PAKISTANIS in the rape of young children.

  182. Frank P
    August 29th, 2014 – 13:31

    Frank P
    “Noa
    The Roger Lord – Doug Carswell affair is getting out of hand. Two UKIP candidates for Clacton in the by-election?
    WTF???!!!”

    Frank
    I was in Essex last week. A strange place, I thought, which rather suits the politicians there.
    I rather thought it was down to the local party (UKIP) to select the best candidate to fight the by-election-if the local Conservative party is actually stupid enough to call one.
    After all, they don’t have to and could just let Carswell ‘stew.’
    Still

  184. NEWS FLASH

    Excerpt from new historic speech by Cameron –

    “I warn Putin – and he must should understand this perfectly clearly. If he does not change his policies towards Ukraine, I will call a referendum.”

  185. Not so Peter.

    “…A new Writ is moved within three months of the vacancy occurring. There have been a few instances of seats remaining vacant longer than six months before a by-election was called. Seats have also been left vacant towards the end of a Parliament to be filled at the general election…”

    Why should the tories, like all socialists bad losers, give UKIP the oxygen of publicity?

    http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/elections-and-voting/by-elections/

  186. There have been a few instances. It is not as matter of it being left to the Conservatives. There were reasons for those few instances. Those reasons do not apply here and delay would be challenged.

  187. Peter
    You agree that there is no obligation to call a by-election. and of what political relevance is a challenge?

    It is the responsibility of the Chief Whip of the resigning MP’s party to move a writ for a by-election.
    But, he doesn’t have to. And as this is Michael Gove we see he has an interesting dilemma. He can be loyal to Cameron, the man who sacked him, and act in the ‘best intereests’ of the party. Or he can seek near certaindefeat in a by-election.

  188. Noa, the idea that a bye-election is in the gift of the Chief Whip, especially in such a high profile case, is not reasonable. The constituents have a right to representation and could challenge a delay. What relevance is a challenge? Every relevance. You say that the Conservatives can remove the story from the news, but on the contrary, a delay and a legal challenge will keep it in the headlines.

  191. There is a wonderfully silly post by Fraser Nelson on The Spectator titled ‘Douglas Carswell: Rebel with an unclear cause’ that is worthy of Chemical Ali as the bloody buildings collapsed around him.

    It’s got nothing to do with principle – on anyone’s side.

    The bloke wants his seat.

    If he leaves it to the General Election it’s too late to jump then. It looks too opportunistic.

    All the layers and layers of spin put out by Lynton Crosby are wonderful, masterful even.

    But the UK has reached its tipping point.

    And it’s this: even in a first past the post system, even with all the postal vote fraud, even with all the MSM under such establishment control, even with ‘Comment deleted’ – in the end, the people – most of whom cannot unpick the layers upon layers of spin – just decide: ‘Well, I don’t believe any of you LibLabCon any more.’

    The people are on the move.

    The UK is in the middle of a Muslim paedophile rape epidemic, the borders are open, people are openly beheaded in the street and Fraser Nelson wants to have posh little debates about why people should stick together because one day it will all be jam tomorrow.

    Ah, yes.

    One fine day, Chemical Fraser.

    One fine day.

    This is the people speaking. And it doesn’t matter if it’s UKIP, or any other political vehicle, but they are on the move Nelson.

    They are on the move.

    Will the dustbin men of history please collect the stinking mess of LibLabCon as soon as possible.

    No recycling, please.

    Mark as ‘toxic’.

  192. So. whats the betting on how many seats UKIP get at the 2015 GE

    i reckon 10

    gut feeling

  194. John Richardson @ 13:25

    What a mighty response to a minuscule rant by the barbarian. Did he deserve it?

    Still, in the domain in which Baron moves there one seldom finds any of the unpleasant characters you’ve described, John. It’s this which keeps Baron going, the belief in ‘the healthy core of Englishness’, sooner or later the core will have a say again.

  195. Frank P @ 18:44

    If Scotland can, Kosovo did, the east Ukraine will, why not East Anglia going it alone. Baron’s with you on this one, Frank, how do we start?

  196. RobertC @ 19:01

    One obvious omission on the list of things banned by the ever vigilant EU apparatchiks was the flush toilet, Robert. How on earth have they missed that one.

  197. Once Mr Cameron and Mr Obama have bombed the hell out of Iraq there will be millions of refugees. Again.

    Where might they head for a new life?

    Where’s the softest touch in Europe, where the bomb Muslims abroad and give them automatic jobs, just for being Muslims, in the House of Lords and the BBC’s religion dept?

    It’s on the tip of my tongue.

    No.

    Can’t think.

    To the dissection of Cameron below, I can only add who gave the terrorists citizenship? Tories and Labour. Over decades.

    Why should passports be revoked? Let them leave the UK.

    If they stay they’ll only set up a Tell MAMA group and live off the taxpayer for the rest of their lives whinging about being oppressed.

    All down the centuries, Islam has created murderous loons. Even if ISIS are the threat Cameron says they are, another Islamic terror unit will be along afterwards.

    Read The Koran.

    Why else has Al Qaeda been surpassed? This follows a pattern of Islamic history over hundreds of years.

    So even taking Cameron at face value is pointless.

    His whole career is a lie.

    And this is just his wannabe crown jewel of a lie so he can get work in America after the election.

    No one in the West needs to sort out anything in the Middle East. They need to mass repatriate.

    The UK can start with exiling Boris Johnson to Turkey. He can make the case for Turkey joining the EU safely from there.

    Anything else is power-grabbing spin.

    Voila:

    UK’s Cameron Goes Full Scaremonger: “We Will Be Fighting ISIS For Decades”

    Following his nation’s elevated terror threat level, UK Prime Minister David Cameron went full scaremonger:

    “We are in the middle of a generational struggle against a poisonous extremist ideology that I believe we will be fighting for years and probably decades.”

    Warning that “ISIS represents a greater threat than anything before,” (even Hitler?) he plans to introduce new laws to “make it easier to take people’s passports away.”

    We are reminded of Brandon Smith’s warnings of government commentary in coming weeks:

    …the goal will be to terrify you and those around you into seeking out a more powerful, more centralized government authority to protect your security, to provide cover for the continued planned collapse of American society into third world status, and out of these ashes, the centralization of the political and financial foundations of our world into the hands of an elite few.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-29/uks-cameron-goes-full-scaremonger-we-will-be-fighting-isis-decades

  198. RobertC @ 23:36

    Robert, the adoption of children by same sex couples tops Baron’s list of objections to the progressives’ drive to sex equality.

    Some 97% of us are heterosexual, thus it’s reasonable to assume that the vast majority of kids brought up by same sex unions will also be heterosexuals. What if some of them do not accept, cannot accept the fact that they were brought up in a family environment alien to their preference. What if they find it harder to find a wife, husband. Does anyone care?

  200. Alexandr.
    You reckon on UKIP netting 10 seats at the GE. Personally I think they will get more, many more, and not just Tory seats. ULIP speaks for people across all political divides and will, reap the rewards. The outcome of the election will not just be political but moral. A lot of ordinary decent people are going to ask themselves “Am I going to vote for a man who stabbed his brother in the back in order to get his hands on the levers of power?” The answer to that will be no, and all Millimarx will be left wit will be a dog eared second hand copy of Il Principe.

    Helen,
    Well said Helen, and welcome to the gang.

  201. Malfleur @ 06:33

    Baron subscribes to OSCE report, he gets between 4-6 a day, they have a large number of observers everywhere in eastern Ukraine and elsewhere in major cities elsewhere in the country, weird as it may seem, they haven’t reported on any Russian troops moving across the border. What they have said is a movement of the rebels around the east in the few days before the offensive started. They also said that in many towns mothers attacked police stations, young Ukrainians left their homes (probably fleeing to the West), and big movements of people from that region into Russia (but not west to Kiev, western Ukraine).

    It’s still hard to believe, Malfleur, that many Russians haven’t sneaked in either individually, or in small groups. Also, where did the rebels get the hardware?

  202. What we should to do next, with the terrorists within our midst?

    Here is a good start. There are a few statements that I find odd but, take the positive, and it may help us get out of this aimless stupor that our Government still upholds:

    Defeat ISIS in the comfort of your own home
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/08/defeat_isis_in_the_comfort_of_your_own_home.html

    In summary, with changes to make it applicable to Britain:
    Step 1) an end to political correctness
    Step 2) a moratorium on pandering to immigrant groups in order to win elections for the LibLabCon Party
    Step 3) extinguish their support base inside the UK

    These steps would not only contribute to combating ISIL, it would also contribute to many sensible goals that need to be attained within Britain.

    The article says:
    “Let Obama continue praising Islam as a constitutionally protected religion of peace. At the same time he must outlaw Sharia, stripping this pseudo-religious practice of the First Amendment protection. The president must honestly and officially acknowledge that Sharia is, in fact, a hostile, supremacist political ideology of total domination in a purely physical, not spiritual realm.”

    This is naive, but then we have to start somewhere, even if it is not where we want to start. The article does more than hint what the consequences are of going with the flow:
    “The latest attempts [of enforcing Sharia Law] include the Taliban in Afghanistan, Boko Haram in Nigeria, and most recently the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) who, in spite of their “religious” name, are driven by a very earthly goal of forcing everyone, through mass murder and terror, to submit to their supremacy.”

    I like this imagery:
    “Just like Ebola requires careful quarantine, so does Sharia. Think of the Boston Marathon bombing as a Sharia outbreak. Think of the Fort Hood shooting as a Sharia outbreak. Once the culprit is known and isolated, it will only be a matter of time before all the hot spots are identified, quarantined, and extinguished.”

    Hopefully!

    The knowledge that I have acquired encourages me to think that removing the ‘unpleasantness’ from islam would destroy it, so this paragraph doesn’t really make sense:
    “In case anyone would rush to judgment and label this modest proposal “Islamophobic,” consider that the official separation of Islam-the-religion from Sharia-the-totalitarian-ideology would benefit the proverbial peaceful and law-abiding Muslims in more ways than pandering to Islamic radicals ever could. With Sharia out of the way, Islam can finally have a chance to become a religion of peace in real life and not only in the speeches of double-speaking clerics and politicians.”

    However, any plan needs to be executed in stages, appropriate for the conditions that it will meet. For example, following 9/11, if the the fight against terror was to have any meaning, it would have involved securing alternative oil supplies for Europe, loads of strategic financial supervision and delays, halting mosque building, extraditing potential terrorists and agitators, without any hassle from the EU/ECHR, etc. it wasn’t done, so we are in a worse mess than we would have been.

    Our politicians haven’t even started to address the first two steps, which the public can already see would help to prevent events such as happened in Rotherham.

  203. Helen J @ 10:02

    That’s a fantastic link, Helen, and it’s something close to Baron’s heart, he lost one of his hobbies when the new Firearms Act can into being. He will give the article a wide circulation, that’s for sure.

  204. Baron – 21:54
    I am sure I posted, here, quite recently, a reference to an article where a man, who had reached a high level in academia (almost, if not a professorship), described very eloquently how difficult it was to relate to women, having been raised by his mother and her lesbian partner from an early age.

  205. Glad to help Baron!

    The Firearms Act has had no effect whatsoever on real criminals – Operation Trident is overwhelmed with gun crime every time I read a British newspaper.

    The Firearms Act after Dunblane was pure Rahm Emmanuel: Never let a crisis go to waste. The Establishment always have a knack of bagging themselves sometimes two and three extra sins for the price of one.

    And it was the thinking part of the populace they went after.

    Those who would use them cavalierly were left to get on with it.

  207. There is one big blast of noise from Lynton Crosby before the election:

    1) The UK economy is booming. Lie.

    2) Dave is ‘doing’ family. He wants cinema-style ratings on YouTube and opt-in boxes for porn on the internet.

    3) He is tackling Islamic terror. At last! He’s repatriating most of Tower Hamlets? No. He’s going to waste more time bombing Iraq where one Islamic terror group will displace IS, just like Al Qaeda was superseded and all the other outfits before it. And he will flood Tower Hamlets and the rest of the UK with Muslim refugees from Iraq and elsewhere.

    I wonder if Dave’s darlings: Savid Javid, Sayeeda Warsi and Nick Boles will be knocking on doors in Clacton in the next few weeks.

    I hear they’re very short of Tory volunteers to do the leg work.

    Goodbye Dave and the Tory Party.

    Take Boris with you to wherever you’re headed.

    See you ever again and it will be too soon.

    Oh, and special love to Lynton Crosby, who crushed the Australian version of UKIP a few years back.

    Tell enough lies, Lynton, and no one believes you ever again.

    Have the decency to pay for the Tory Party funeral. You xxxxed it up. And the poor taxpayer has paid enough (£200,000 plus for Dave’s mortgage on expenses).

    What a liar.

  208. Was pleased to read that George Galloway was attacked in the street and has a broken jaw, and other injuries.

  209. Frank P @ 15:40

    Priceless, Frank, not the beauty contest, but the great Mark Steyn. One couldn’t go any further than his clear cut of the messiah. Baron misses him here.

  210. AWK 1 29th, – 23:22

    “has a broken jaw, and other injuries.”

    Pretty pathetic, compared with what he deserves. 🙂

  211. The Spectator’s in-house junior Leftie Isabel Hardman (now what would an old letch like Spectator managing editor Andrew Neil see in a young girl like her?) pontificates on Serious Dave.

    And one commenter socks it to her:

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/08/david-cameron-may-be-about-to-call-time-on-the-coalitions-civil-libertarian-stance/#disqus_thread

    Agrippina

    So no actual threat then, but suddenly after the news agenda was focusing on UKIP, cammy decided to make an announcement, about an announcement he will be making in the House on Monday.

    All the things he said today, regarding poisonous ideology have been written about on here since Drummer Rigby’s murder. He must have been reading the comments.

    Vote for anyone but the trio of troughers and take back our country and borders from all the aliens who have poured in for the past 50yrs.

    Other commenters point out that all this money in past went on monitoring EDL websites and locking up people like Tommy Robinson.

    They didn’t dare go after Robinson on hate speech charges so they trumped up some ‘mortgage fraud’ charges.

    How many people do you think forge mortgage applications? Tons. Loads of immigrants have been doing it in the south east in the recent house price boom.

    But prison?

    For that?

    People get less in the UK for serious violence.

    It is Brits who complain that Dave will monitor.

    If there is another 7/7 it will be because Dave and M I 5 spent so much time harrassing Tommy Robinson and people like him.

  212. Helen J 29th, – 22:25

    “The Firearms Act has had no effect whatsoever on real criminals”

    An ex-colleague of mine. who used to shoot for the Royal Navy, now has to fly to the Channel Islands at weekends to pursue his hobby.

  213. RobertC @ 22:08

    With the boy in charge, can any of the three steps ever happen?

    He should have stayed as a chair of the Oxfordshire Beekeepers Association, that was about the the max his abilities reach to.

  214. Helen J @ 21:49

    What’s the idea of another piece of legislation ‘making it easier to take people’s passports away’? How does it help if a jihadist becomes stateless? He won’t be able to vote, perhaps, but even this is questionable, the European Court of Justice insist criminals must have a vote. Can he be denied health care, education, the right to buy a house, or move freely around the country? With ‘uman rites’ on the statute books?
    This is another move that will fail at the first legal hurdle, the only beneficiaries will be the ‘uman rites’ lawyers.

  215. Helen J @ 23:12

    Quite right on the economy, Helen.

    Even without further sanctions against Putin, the economy would have been likely struggling before the count. Most of the recent growth has come from the rising house prices (over 70% of households are owner/occupier) giving people lucky enough to own a property the feeling of greater wealth, albeit a paper wealth, which got them to open the purse more. This cannot last, it may have already come to an end.

    Carney at the BoE isn’t King, he doesn’t have to toe the line, no gong for him, and a warm seat in the Upper Chamber, he is Canadian, and have shown in the past he can stand up to Jeffrey at no11. If he hikes the cost of money before the election, as he well may, personal consumption (70% of GDP) cannot but get hit.

    What will Crosby conjure up then?

  216. I think it was last week that I posted a link to an article by Peter Hitchens published in the early noughties arguing his right to bear arms.

    I see that as late as last December he was still in the front line on the front line as this contribution to a debate at that time shows:

    “Until the year 1920…the guns laws of this country made Texas look effeminate…”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyXbp8Y4qZA

  218. What has the ‘family minister’, Nick Boles to say about this, I wonder?

    “The NFSS’s results showed that children who remain with their intact biological families were better educated, were in greater mental and physical health, reported overall higher levels of happiness, displayed less drug use and less criminal behaviour.

    The greatest negative outcomes were found among children of lesbian mothers, contrary to faulty studies popularised by the media. The NFSS found negative outcomes for lesbians’ adult children in 25 of 40 categories, including far higher rates of sexual assault (23% of lesbians’ children were touched sexually by a parent or adult, compared to 2% raised by normal married parents), higher levels of depression, worse physical health, more marijuana use and greater unemployment (69% of lesbians’ children were on welfare, compared to 17% of those with normal married parents).

    Regnerus’ research disproved an often-cited 2005 brief by the American Psychological Association (APA) that concluded: “Not a single study has found children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged in any significant respect relative to children of heterosexual parents.” This sentence has now been removed from the APA’ website.

    And the confidence behind that assertion will be invalidated again and again, as more research unearths the problems associated with homosexual parenting and/or adoption.”

    Read more: http://enzaferreri.blogspot.com/2014/08/same-sex-adoption-not-as-harmless-as.html#ixzz3BrT0fshj
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  219. RE: Rotherham.

    The point about Common Purpose is to do things ‘beyond authority’.

    That is, beyond what voters can see. So non-politcal leaders are very important in creating ‘change’ (changing the ethnic make-up of Britain forever).

    It is always very hard to join the dots on these things, but one commenter on the Telegraph (still running Dave’s garbage about ISIS – which will be nothing more than an assault on indigenes’ freedom of speech with new surveillance powers) has found this out:

    ‘…the Chief Constable who was in charge at the time. He was appointed at the time the BNP and a few other people started raising questions about what was happening to these young girls.

    ‘I am told that one of his first actions was to disband the police unit that was investigating the abuse by Pakistani men. He was also very close to the Labour Party.

    ‘So if you are a Labour Home Secretary and you want to keep the lid on an explosive situation, what better solution than to put your own man in as Chief Constable.’

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/11063885/Rotherham-and-the-toxic-legacy-of-multiculturalism.html

    Well, that’s how Common Purpose works. Policy that beyond the reach of the electorate is tweaked here and there by leaders to suit the Common Purpose agenda. Shutting down police units like that is exactly the sort of way to shape policy on a ground level. And oh how the Pakistani commyooonity thrived under it!

    Oh yes!

    Julia Middleton would be very pleased.

    Common Purpose are a bit like Gerry Adams & Co. The name they go by and the personnel may change.

    But Common Purpose haven’t gone away, you know.

  220. Malfleur @ 02:00

    It’s possible Baron will acquire the book, but he read the article up to here, and stopped:

    “The traditional European approach to order had viewed peoples and states as inherently competitive; to constrain the effects of their clashing ambitions, it relied on a balance of power and a concert of enlightened statesmen. The prevalent American view considered people inherently reasonable and inclined toward peaceful compromise and common sense ….”

    The traditional European approach of ‘state competitiveness’ was right, it was time tested, it worked, it’s still present, as we are seeing clearly in the Ukraine and elsewhere, it has never vanished (a wishful thinking cannot make it go away) as it is inherent in the nature of each of us, and states are but amalgams of individuals. Kissinger’s fluffing about ‘the Americans considering people as reasonable’ has nothing to do with the defining the states relationship with each other.

    The new world order argument could have been made after the collapse of the Soviet Gulag Empire, too. What has given rise to you in more recent past is globalisation, the freeing of capital, labour, trade, or rather its success, but not in all three of its segments. That’s what needs addressing, God only knows s how.

  222. Sorry, in the last para (@10.23), it should read ‘What has given rise to it …, and also what is inherent in all of us is competitiveness, not ‘state competitiveness’, as the ‘it’ in the penultimate paragraph implies, if you still follow this rather convoluted expain.

  223. Noa @ 10:28

    It surprised Baron, too, whatever the reason for kicking Carswell this chap North misses the big point, it’s a first defection from the Tories to an arch rival, possibly the replacement of the Conservative outfit as we know it, this in itself is massive news, it matters little what the defector said, did before he fled.

  224. With all the terrorists, perverts, and common criminals running around, it is truly pathetic that the police, both domestic and international are being employed to torment further, a family which is bereft with grief. A five year old boy, dying of an incurable brain tumour, has been taken from the hospital, which admits his condition is incurable, to be in the heart of a loving family. Here we have bureaucracy at its vilest: self-righteous, ‘we know what is best’ medical and social workers anxious to claw this dying child back into the hospital. Hospitals can be frightening places at the best of times, and with Jimmy Savilles and other monsters stalking the wards, any parent must be nervous to leave their offspring at the tender mercies of Britain’s child care. Why are valuable manpower and financial resources being wasted on a family who want to care for their own? Why are a decent family being labelled as religious maniacs by a society that mocks Christianity, Judaism and any other civilised ethos? Leave this family alone to love, care and later mourn for their beloved son. Use the resources available to go after the child abusers, and all the other criminals which haunt our land.

  225. Anne Wotana Kaye 1 August 30th, 2014 – 10:59

    Absolutely right, these parents must be left alone and should not be hounded like criminals.

    If his life could be saved then there might well be a justification in trying to find him but if nothing can be done to save his life then let his parents do as they wish.

  227. It only gets worse, doesn’t it.

    And then we see this:
    Forced to watch crucifixions, stonings and beheadings and taught to fire machine guns as big as they are: How Islamic State training camps for children are swelling its ranks with junior jihadis
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738469/Forced-watch-crucifixions-stonings-beheadings-taught-fire-machine-guns-big-How-Islamic-State-training-camps-children-swelling-ranks-junior-jihadis.html

    There is no reason to think that it won’t come to Britain. And yet the Government appear to still think there are two sorts of muslim, that are separate species!

  229. John birch – August 28th, 13:03 ‘You can’t [trust them] !!!’
    RobertC – August 29th, 22:08 ‘Steps 1,2 & 3’

    Why doesn’t the Charity Commission investigate this:

    Muslim Rape Gangs: The Disturbing Role of Britain’s Leading Child Welfare Charity
    “Among the more nauseating spectacles of the Rotherham child rape scandal has been the squirming evasion and shameless attempts at face-saving by the various authority figures whose job it supposedly was to prevent such horrors happening.
    One of them is a man named Javed Khan. He is the head of Britain’s largest children’s charity Barnardo’s which now stands accused of having known about the Muslim rape gang problem for well over a decade – but which chose to do next to nothing to confront it.”
    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/08/29/Muslim-rape-gangs-the-disturbing-role-of-Britain-s-leading-child-welfare-charity

    Once started, it would clear out a lot of harmful dross, as well as bringing to the attention of the public how far set in the rot has penetrated.

  230. RobertC – 18:26 ‘link from article previous from previous post’

    Javed Khan, Chief Executive of the Barnardos children’s charity says, “… this is happening all over the country, it isn’t just … peculiar to Rotherham …”

    Rotherham Abuse: Barnados Chief Exec Challenged Over Lack Of Care For Abused Children
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bscZyOeBpW4
    (quote between 4:50-5:22)

    It makes you wonder just who knew what, and when, and from whom, and who is still paying for it, in money and injury.

    It just backs up my last post.

  231. Noa – 18:26 ‘Dr North’

    What he says is correct, but the article is like describing an horrific car crash, with all the bits flying through the air, and obeying Newton’s Laws, but not mentioning the initial speed of the car been driven.

    So, while it all may be true, so, seat belts and crash barriers would help, but if you don’t mention the speed or the pedestrian walking into the road without looking the picture created is a false one.

    So few who comment about muslims have read any of their literature, their sacred literature, so we haven’t been able to criticise it, up to now!

    So that is where our money goes!
    “with Rotherham alone spending more than £300,000 a year on employing diversity officers”
    What about the other places?

    One bit he does get right is: “Hence, fundamental Islam is the religion of losers.”

    I wonder if their twinned town, St Quentin, has been enriched?

  233. Noa at 10-28am

    Scrolling down the Link to `Rotherham:tribal mores`:this accords with things I’ve been finding out.More after “Ed Reardon” finishes on Radio 4 Extra.

  234. Cameron is fighting a futile battle. Why bother playing in a competition with which we are disgusted? A competition to see who can get into ever closer union the fastest while the number of unemployed youngsters across Europe continues to increase, we have to let scum into our country and we cannot throw them out.

    It’s no win at all.

    “Donald Tusk, the pro-reform prime minister of Poland, was named as the new president of the European Council at a summit of EU leaders.
    Mr Tusk was Mr Cameron’s preferred candidate to succeed Herman van Rompuy as president of the European Council.
    …
    Downing Street hopes Mr Tusk will also act as a reformist counterweight to Jean-Claude Juncker, the arch federalist who has taken over as president of the European Commission, despite fierce opposition from Mr Cameron.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11065957/David-Cameron-scores-EU-victory-as-Polish-ally-named-new-European-president.html

  235. Noa @ 18:26

    Quite right, Noa, not only does he understates the religious aspect of the scandal (no Hindu, Jewish followers amongst the abusers), he also squeezes the wart the wrong way.

    He e offers one possible explanation, his view on why the grooming of young white girls by immigrant members of nomadic tribes happened (and apparently is still happening), which may or may not be either relevant, or even the right one. Baron has no knowledge of how other mostly young, male, unsettled tribesmen behave in different settings, or their home ground e.g. in Pakistan, Kashmir. But surely once the ‘unsettled tribesmen’ were let into the country (many were born here anyway), the laws of the land should have applied. That should have been obvious, given, unquestionable, yet nobody seems to have insisted on it.

    Why didn’t anyone in the numerous agencies of the state, local or centrally run, the police, the charities, and everyone else charged with the protection of the vulnerable kids say “look here, you do as the law says, or you get punished’. His stating that the immigrant communities were judged differently from the indigenous burghers lies at the core of the scandal. This should have been the focus of the piece, rather than his excusing it (for it almost feels like an excuse) by some ‘nomadic tribesmen’ behaviour. This country may be anything, a tribal society in the sense of a group of people united by ties from a common ancestor it ain’t.

    This write-up is typical of what we’re served, and not only on Rotherham, and not only on grooming. A bleating about social causes, cultural traits, moral relativism and things like that even though the aanswer stares in everyone’s face: the locals, the tribesmen, the followers of Allah, everyone, just obey the bloody law, and for those charged with enforcing it, just bloody enforce it.

  236. Noa at 10-28am/and others.

    While I don’t agree with Richard North on the Conservative Party,scrolling down to `Rotherham:tribal mores his comments on tribalism accord with what I am founding out.

    These men are only Pakis because the Indian Army failed to advance another ten miles.They are Muslims because the armies of Islam conquered them centuries ago.

    In Rotherham a case can be made that the clan chiefs are more powerful then the Imams and the rape-gang leaders are young war lords.I speculate it was their tribal nature (which is found in these Northern towns and in Birmingham,the Black Country and Leicester) that lead them first to attack Sikh girls,before turning on English girls.

    A case can be made,`pace`Richard North,that Islam coincided with their tribal nature.We can consider what would have happened if they had become Christianised.

    There are complex matters here that I am still looking into.

  238. Baron @ August 30th – 10:23

    Yes, I think we have to buy the book on the principle of ‘know your enemy’.

  239. An insignificant prediction for what happens next in a chunk of lands called Ukraine. The conflict in the east of it will end soon, Vlad will be the mover, and will compromise, whether openly or not is hard to say. It won’t be that he’s scared of NATO’s military might, the EU’s sanctions, the messiah’s strategic prowess, and certainly not of the Kiev’s puppets. Not any of it, he will be pushed to the corner by the only force he fears – the mothers of the soldiers fighting in the east Ukraine. They got together, are getting a massive exposure in all Russian media, every media, and more to the point, the public trust them, they are the only institution in Russia that’s believed, listened to, not attacked by the thugs who are now targeting uncomfortable journalists. It was the mothers of Russian soldiers who fought in Chechnya coupling with the Chechen mothers of their soldiers that stopped the war in that corner of Russia. The same, Baron reckons, will happen with east Ukraine. In fewer than eight weeks, the conflict’s over.

  240. H/T to Breitbart for the following comment on an interview with Anthony Cordesman. The website mentioned, Activist Post, seems worth keeping an eye on.

    Cynicles RobL_v2 • 10 minutes ago
    Øsurper’s lack of leadership is by no means due to negligence on his part. Found this on the most excellent ActivistPost site, only the first 10 of many questions and a brief follow up are posted:

    Why Does ISIS Fit In So Perfectly With The PNAC Plan?

    1. Where do they bank? Or do they have a money tree?

    2. Where do they get their guns from? Bullets? Knives?

    3. Where do they eat, how do they get their food?

    4. Where do they sleep, where do they get toiletries?

    5. Where is their military base? They DO stick together right?

    6. Since we know where they are why can’t they simply be rounded up in a way that doesn’t involve any nation attacks? But wait …

    7. Who is their leader and how did he learn to outsmart the world’s greatest military and outperform all generals in U.S. history?

    8. How does ISIS avoid NSA surveillance?

    9. How do they communicate and avoid all communication systems at the same time?

    10. How do they avoid military and government satellite surveillance and tracking?

    [from http://www.activistpost.com/%5D

  241. Malfleur @ 23:39

    Perhaps, Malfleur, we get a single book, share it. The guy’s language tests Baron’s mental ability to the full (not that he has much of it anyway). It’s just too loaded, requires undisturbed attention, often a never ending search for an evidence of the idea he is trying to convey. But then, an Alzheimer corrupted brain of a pygmy is no match for the brain of a giant.

  242. Malfleur @ 00:46

    Top quality link, Malfleur, it got bookmarked. They also screen an hour long report on the MH17. The one piece of information Baron wasn’t aware of was that four countries signed an agreement to classify the findings of the investigation. One of them is Ukraine, the country whose military should answer more than just few questions on the downing of the plane.

  245. John birch – 06:56
    The Article “We are constantly told that there is a battle within Islam to turn it into a progressive, inclusive religion. I wish those involved in that the very best of luck.”
    But we constantly have seen the opposite across Britain, as we know well.

    The few that have been reported include those (taken from http://kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/muslim-grooming-paedo-map) in Barking, Birmingham, Blackburn, Blackpool, Bolton, Bradford, Bristol, Burton, Bury, Chesham, Coventry, Darwen, East London, Great Norton, Harlow, Harrow, Hayes, High Wycombe, Keighley, Lancaster, Leeds, Leicester, Leigh, Liverpool, Londonderry, Manchester, Middlebrough, Nelson, Newcastle, Nottingham, Oldham, Oxford, Peterborough, Preston, Rochdale, Rotherham, Sheffield, South Shields, Stevenage, Swansea, Telford, Torquay, Tower Hamlets.
    And then there is Nigeria, Sweden, Norway, the whole ME including the obliteration of Israel, it would be easier to list the places not at war.

    The war includes propaganda, created today, to massage the past:
    1,400 Years of Christian/Islamic Struggle: An Analysis
    “Let us review the Muslim conquest. In 624, Mohammed led a raid for booty and plunder against a Meccan caravan, killing 70 Meccans for mere material gain. Between 630 A.D. and the death of Mohammed in 632 A.D., Muslims — on at least one occasion led by Mohammed — had conquered the bulk of western Arabia and southern Palestine through approximately a dozen separate invasions and bloody conquests. These conquests were in large part “Holy wars,” putting the lie to another statement in the U.S. News article that proclaimed the Crusades “The First Holy War,” as if the Christians had invented the concept of a holy war. After Mohammed’s death in 632, the new Muslim caliph, Abu Bakr, launched Islam into almost 1,500 years of continual imperialist, colonialist, bloody conquest and subjugation of others through invasion and war, a role Islam continues to this very day.”
    http://www.cbn.com/spirituallife/onlinediscipleship/understandingislam/IslamHistory0212.aspx

    The Crusades were the result of being asked help defend Christian communities.

  246. I see from the Weekend FT that the token leader of our government is about to follow orders and sign us up for a joint expeditionary force to support NATO’s efforts in the Ukraine…

    I hope Mr. Farage will issue an appropriate policy statement in the face of this warmongering and will stay out of helicopters…

  247. Not wishing to tempt fate:

    Cameron faces Ukip by-election bloodbath: Party set to win first Commons seat after shock poll reveals Farage’s staggering 44-point lead over the Tories
    * Ukip set to win first Commons seat with a landslide 64 per cent of the vote
    * Douglas Carswell is set to win Clacton by-election sparked by his defection
    * Figures predict a record 48 point swing towards Ukip, humiliating the Tories

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2738787/Cameron-faces-Ukip-election-bloodbath-Party-set-win-Commons-seat-shock-poll-reveals-Farages-staggering-44-point-lead-Tories.html

  248. Baron

    I haven’t had a chance to watch that…but why am I not surprised at what you report…?

    I did notice as I scrolled down that there was a piece on the subversive new Ambassador to the Russian Federation appointed by the Obama regime.

  249. I just received the following email from a contact. I do not know anything about the bona fides of the party whose contact details in Los Abgeles are provided:

    “PLEASE PRAY for them immediately. What are the righteous doing about this situation with ISIS killing the innocence at random???

    Subject: Request for prayer
    Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:54:45 +0700

    BREAKING URGENT NEWS! The email below was sent to Benny Mostert from Jericho Walls:

    Dear Friends,

    A few minutes ago I received the following text message on my phone from Sean Malone who leads Crisis Relief International (CRI). We then spoke briefly on the phone and I assured him that we would share this urgent prayer need with all of our contacts.

    “We lost the city of Queragosh (Qaraqosh). It fell to ISIS and they are beheading children systematically. This is the city we have been smuggling food to. ISIS has pushed back Peshmerga (Kurdish forces) and is within 10 minutes of where our CRI team is working. Thousands more fled into the city of Erbil last night. The UN evacuated it’s staff in Erbil. Our team is unmoved and will stay. Prayer cover needed!”

    For more information on the tr is happening in Northern Iraq:

    1.) ISIS Fighters Overrun Iraq’s Largest Christian Town Qaraqosh, Residents Flee:
    2.) Email Prayer Bulletin from International Prayer Council (John Robb)
    3.) Iraqi MP Breaks Down in Tears Pleading Parliament to Save Yazidis from Genocide:

    Please pray sincerely for the deliverance of the people of Northern Iraq from the terrible advancement of ISIS and its extreme Islamic goals for mass conversion or death for Christians across this region.

    May I plead with you not to ignore this email. Do not forward it before you have prayed through it. Then send it to as many people as possible.

    Send it to friends and Christians you may know. Send it to your prayer group. Send it to your Pastor and phone him/her to pray on Sunday during the service – making a special time of prayer for this. We need to stand in the gap for our fellow Christians..

    Mirian Areola
    Division of Special Education
    Operations & Program/Fiscal Accountability Unit
    Los Angeles Unified School District SELPA
    333 South Beaudry Ave. 17th Floor, Los Angeles Ca 90017
    Tel: 213-241-8191; Fax:213-241-4185″

  250. “If ignorant both of your enemy and yourself, you are certain to be in peril.”
    ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

    Could somebody p[lease check which side the British government is on at the moment on the Syrian civil war?

  252. Baron
    “…This write-up is typical of what we’re served, and not only on Rotherham, and not only on grooming. A bleating about social causes, cultural traits, moral relativism and things like that even though the aanswer stares in everyone’s face: the locals, the tribesmen, the followers of Allah, everyone, just obey the bloody law, and for those charged with enforcing it, just bloody enforce it…”

    Yes, that’s the point. 1400 raped white children in Rotherham alone. Let’s say 10,000 Pakistani muslim gang paedophile rapists. and five convictions.

    Presumably the Home Secretary and Justice minister are worried about prison overcrowding. Poor dears.

    And by the way, we’ve heard about white girls, what about white boys? I don’t believe these perverts didn’t indulge in buggery on a similar industrial scale. So that’s another shit storm on the way.

    And Baron. 00.51 I know itstempting, but are you extracting the michael?

  253. On Friday, Alex Jones got a bit excited by our masters provoking Russia to respond with nuclear weapons to the military threats which they are unrolling against Moscow in and around the Ukraine. This broadcast includes an excerpt from an interview shown on RT with Putin in which he tells NATO not to mes with nuclear Russia which I have not seen reported elsewhere. We seem to be in Cuban missile crisis territory without anyone much noticing. Time to recall Parliament?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP8llRKeO-o

  254. Malfleur – 09:45 ‘Crisis Relief International’

    It looks pretty bad, even if that report cannot be validated:
    http://criout.com

    The problem for us is that, with the current information that we have, including knowing that we have a great deal of censorship within our own media, it is oh-so-possible there, and here if we continue to follow Cameron and the LibLabCon illusion.

    At least some are able to speak out now:

    Rotherham is not an isolated incident
    Simon Danczuk, the Labour MP for Rochdale who helped expose the Cyril Smith scandal, warns that similar abuse is taking place across the country
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11066244/Rotherham-is-not-an-isolated-incident.html

    While it is muslims who are the main, if not exclusive, perpetrators, and (E & W) Pakistani muslims in the main at that, the role that white, Socialist, PC agenda driven, Guardian reading dimwits, many highly paid from the public purse, still do not understand is that they are paid to uphold the law and it is their duty to at least make known anything that is contrary to evil. That is the only word for it.

    This quote from the article highlights how public money has been used against us, and the young victims, instead of for the community:

    ” The director of children’s services implied to me that young girls who were being raped were “making lifestyle choices”. She later admitted to an incredulous home affairs select committee that she’d never met any of the victims.

    The impression I got was that they viewed these girls as an astronomer would look through a telescope at planets. Their lives were so far from the girls’ experiences that to them, they might as well have been a remote dot.”

  255. I have had a further session watching more of Alex Jones’s Friday show

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP8llRKeO-o

    and there is an excellent interview with Ray McGovern that concentrates on Ukraine but also touches on the Middle Easr.

    http://www.raymcgovern.com/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_McGovern

    McGovern sees an essential element of a peaceful solution to the Ukrainian crisis as that at the meeting of NATO in Wales on 5th September the standing resolution that Ukraine should be invited to join NATO must be revoked. As the Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff will attend together with some other cooler heads, McGovern believes that there is a chance that this will happen.

    I would hope that all electors in the United Kingdom would urge David Cameron to speak for Britain in support of the withdrawal of the resolution If he d.oes not, he will certainly have to give Parliament a persuasive account of Great Britain’s vital interests that are at stake. With the country’s terrorist alert apparently at “severe”, let’s hope that no event is being planned to distract us from the proceedings at the NATO Conference.

  256. Noa
    August 31st, 2014 – 10:55

    And by the way, we’ve heard about white girls, what about white boys? I don’t believe these perverts didn’t indulge in buggery on a similar industrial scale. So that’s another shit storm on the way.
    Furthermore, knowing what filthy creatures these Pakis are, maybe the RSPCA should investigate ………

  257. Abuse of young boys…. a timeline on the BBC News site lists…

    April 2007
    An investigation into the grooming and sexual abuse of young boys identifies more than 70 alleged victims. A man is convicted of offences against 10 children.

  258. Ashya King’s parents were threatened with an emergency protection order by the hospital in Britain, so they didn’t dare ask any more questions. They therefore went to Spain where there were hoping to sell their Spanish apartment to pay for proton treatment which they cannot get in Britain:

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/save-ashya-king

  259. “Tory chiefs plan to flood the seaside constituency with Ministers and MPs in an attempt to hold back Carswell’s tidal wave of support.” (Daily Mail)

    Erm…

  260. Noa @ 10:43

    Excellent link, Noa, the guy’s right, you cannot reform the EU monstrosity any more than the USSR could have been fundamentally reformed. It’s the principles, the tenets, the core paradigms upon which both constructs were founded that are flawed, misguided, inimical to the centuries old cultural heritage of the unwashed in the member states. It may well be, who knows, that in 100, 200 years or so the gaps in these customs, traditions and conventions will be bridged, but not by a diktat from above, but by a gradual ironing out from below.

  261. Malfleur @ 11:26

    Putin’s reference to the Russia’s nuclear deterrent puzzled Baron, too. Why say it, was there something behind it we haven’t been told about.

    A Russian analyst (and a vocal critic of the KGB colonel), a chap named Belinsky said in an interview with the Rain TV station yesterday that the question and answer session in which he said it wasn’t aimed at the teenage audience he was talking to, not at the Russian public, not even at the Western public but at the messiah alone. Apparently, and Belinsky didn’t elaborate, it was meant to be a response to a telephone call the two had some time ago. It would be interesting to have eavesdropped at what these were talking baout, don’t you think?

  262. RobertC @ 21:41

    So, the reports on the radio Baron has heard were wrong, Robert. They all said the parents didn’t do anything illegal, were not in any danger of being prosecuted.

  263. Malfleur @ 13:13

    The Prime Ministers of the Slovak and the Czech Republic said today independently Ukraine isn’t yet ready to qualify either for the EU or NATO. But do these guys from two rather insignificant member states of both organisations carry any weight in the decision making process? It may be enough for the Yanks to just look at them unapprovingly, and they will change their mind.

  264. The first flight of the doomed HM17 took place on July 17, 2007, the plane was downed exactly seven years later on July 17, 2014.

    What do you make of it?

  265. Baron – 23:55
    They took their son without doctor’s approval, but the doctors said there was nothing they could do and the evidence is that the boy is no worse, and probably in a better position than he was. They wanted to bombard him with unfocused radiation and had no proton beam facilities which would focus the beam onto the right area.
    The article says the parents were arrested because there was a cause for concern, yet it is obvious that those fears are unfounded. I cannot see that they have done anything criminal, but they have been arrested, using an EAW.

    At best, it looks like uncoordinated NHS and Police in action, but then again, we are getting to see the agenda that the Police, Social Services and the medical profession have.

    Weren’t some of the drugged Rotherham victims arrested for being drunk?

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