The Coffee House Wall – 29th/5th May

Posted on April 29, 2013

This is the Coffee House Wall for this week. I won’t say that it is your chance to communicate with us, as we are all in this together. It is, nevertheless, the Conservative Blog post that has no particular theme, and where everything is on topic. Let’s just remember that we want to avoid ad hominem attacks on others. We don’t want to engage with trolls. We want to moderate our language ourselves as responsible and mature adults, choosing to use fruity language only where it is necessary. This is our opportunity to show what the Spectator Coffee House Wall could have been like.

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262 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 29th/5th May”

  1. THE THIRD MAN – TREASON IN THE ANGLOSPHERE

    ” Noa
    April 15th, 2013 – 21:31

    2 dead, 23 injured in a terrorist bomb attack at the Boston marathon.

    Who is responsible, one wonders?

    Peter from Maidstone
    April 15th, 2013 – 22:18

    Saudi national identified as probable perpetrator of Boston bombings

    Peter from Maidstone
    April 17th, 2013 – 19:05

    Looks like they have a suspect and may have arrested him. Let’s see which way the US decides to jump.”

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    Well, they jumped away from the arrested Saudi national and now all quiet on the western front. Who was this Saudi; where did he go? Is Obama protecting Saudi interests or vice versa?

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    Ignore the somewhat irritating introduction. Glazov is the son of Russian dissidents. Hear his guests trying to piece together the Obama, islam, terrorist puzzle. They do not touch on The Third Man, but they are already beginning to infer treason at the highest level in the USA.

    What puzzles me about the puzzle is how we can put together the seemingly contradictory pieces of the bankers, the White House administration with its background of association with leftists and left-wing terrorists (Bill Ayers), and islam to provide a coherent explanation of what is going on and to what end.

    There appears to be a grave threat developing, but personally I do not yet grasp the overall picture. Is there one?

    http://frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com/why-eric-holder-shut-the-mouth-of-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-on-the-glazov-gang/

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    At the risk of Eric King’s site becoming my King Charles’s head, I see a pointer in this latest interview there with Jim Sinclair. He does not mention islam, terrorists, leftists, but he has an long, outstanding and positive track record in the gold and precious metal business, and he sounds a note of doom and conspiracy in this latest piece from him which I have not heard him strike before

    http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/4/28_Sinclair_-_The_Elites_Frightening_Plan_To_Control_The_Masses.html

    Where does this fit in? What we need is a general theory of everything…

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    In the meantime, here is Bill O’Reilly of Fox News discussing The Third Man with Beck:

    http://www.glennbeck.com/2013/04/26/watch-oreilly-reacts-to-story-on-saudi-national/

  2. interesting load of headless checken stuff over the weekend re UKIP
    Methinks the mainstream parties are rattled.
    Thursday will be interesting.
    (No UKIP candidates where I live 🙁 )

  3. Malfleur – Don’t forget that Bill Ayers, who wrote Obama’s election speeches for him and help in the background, in Chicago, with his campaign, was once the FBI’s MOST WANTED. His wife, or girlfriend, Bernadette Dohrn, was the FBI’s SECOND MOST WANTED. Bill Ayers was very, very active in guiding Obama to victory. So Obama was guided by traitors, the type of traitors who plant bombs and kill innocent people, from Day One.

  4. Alexsandr – Everything I read points to panic and fear among the British contenders. I think UKIP is going to make an even better mark than we had been hoping for. Coming in at No 2, perhaps? Or even forcing the winning party to beg for a coalition?

  5. Verity

    Yes, I did tuck Bill Ayers in there in the middle.

    In the, meantime, Glenn Beck had a crack a month ago at putting all the pieces together in a geopolitical rearrangement of world power. I don’t think he has it right, who does? – but whatever happens, it’s going to be very messy:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL-RU1XtnUo

  6. I note that in a 1997 letter to the Guardian, Peter Tatchell wrote:

    The positive nature of some child-adult sexual relationships is not confined to non-Western cultures. Several of my friends – gay and straight, male and female – had sex with adults from the ages of nine to 13. None feel they were abused. All say it was their conscious choice and gave them great joy. While it may be impossible to condone paedophilia, it is time society acknowledged the truth that not all sex involving children is unwanted, abusive and harmful.

    Since he states that he knows of people who had sex with adults from the age of 9 to 13 has he been questioned to identify these friends, and those adults who engaged in sexual activity with them?

  7. If Nigel refused a coalition to the party that squeaked through with the most votes, that would be ideal. That would point, all things being equal, to a UKIP government the next time round.

  8. Peter from Maidstone
    April 29th, 2013 – 14:05
    Peter, it would be interested to learn if Harriet Harman would be prepared to speak on this issue. Also, if she had sex with adults as a minor, or if she has had sex as an adult with minors. She was, and for all we know still is, a supporter of minors having sexual relations with adults.

  9. I only caught the question but none of the answers, when that frumpy woman who sometimes is the only host on BBC2 daily politics show, asked the assembled panel, referring to UKIP candidates, “should we be highlighting any previous associations that any might have with far right groups”.

    I am of the opinion that the BBC and all three parties are seriously worried over how well UKIP might do in the elections.

  10. David Ossitt@April 29th, 2013 – 15:45

    good point, but the analysis today seems to be the electorate dont care about these skeletons in the cupboard. Indeed they find them more honest than the squeky clean clones that are the main stream. I think the UKIP smearing is backfiring badly.

    but we will have top wait till friday to know.

  12. David Ossitt
    April 29th, 2013 – 16:52
    So do I. But, unfortunately, it is only certain parts of the country this time around.

  13. David Ossitt 15:45 … ““should we be highlighting any previous associations that any might have with far right groups …”.

    If the “far right” – meaning not communist lefties – is against the law, then yes, perhaps past associations should be mentioned, butfar right is a democratic right, no matter that the toxic left wishes it to appear otherwise.

    This statement was made by someone who probably regards, in her ignorance, Hitler as having been “far right” rather than far left. They all thinki Hitler was “far right” for some reason.

  14. yourdailymuslim.com/2013/04/…/your-daily-muslim-abdelkader-eljanab
    Reading about the horrific rape of a 14-year old boy in Debenham’s lavatory, I came across this on Google. A very crude, gritty link, but unfortunately very true.

  17. Re what I wrote above … I realise that this was a terrible insult to pigs, who are highly intelligent animals. That is why there is always a football or two in their styes, because they like diversion. I apologise to pigs everywhere for associating them with Mo’.

  18. Verity
    April 29th, 2013 – 18:45
    Absolutely agree, Verity. By the way, that is a very crude site, but if it gets the message across, good for them. I found it by accident and wont use it as I prefer something a less rough.

  19. Verity@April 29th, 2013 – 18:45

    Pork pie, ham sandwich,pork chop, roast pork and stuffing, bacon sandwich, toad in the hole made with butchers pork sausages.

  21. The Daily Telegraph reports that the Conservative and Labour Party have agreed to oppose participation of Nigel Farage in broadcast election debates because he might persuade people to vote for UKIP.

    Well that’s a good reason.

  22. The Daily Telegraph reports that Mr. Edward Milliband wants to put borrowing up in order to bring borrowing down.

  24. TREASON IN THE ANGLOSPHERE

    “Our Framers stated clearly that when laws are passed that are contrary to the Constitution, those laws are not to be obeyed and the people responsible for passing them are tyrants guilty of crimes along with the people who elected them to office. We don’t have “majority rule” in America nor should we. What we have is a Constitutional Republic based on principles that even the majority cannot negate. ”

    http://thelibertysphere.blogspot.com/2013/04/musings-after-midnight-clock-is-ticking.html

  25. Even off incomplete records the cost of treating EU patients on the NHS is just under a £billion and that excludes non EU patients.

    Consider:-

    “…EU migrants who work in the UK are classified as being resident here and qualify for free NHS health care, meaning that if they travel back to their homeland for health care they are considered UK citizens and the bill is sent back here to be picked up by the NHS.”
    Truly amazing.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10022601/NHS-counts-900-million-cost-of-treating-EU-visitors.html

  26. Malfleur (20:13 (and all jihad watchers of this blog and previous hang-outs)

    BOSTON BOMBERS – answers.

    All contained in the report that I posted at the tail end of last week’s wall, which was apparently missed in the changeover:

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3672/muslim-brotherhood-us-government#_ftn1

    Carol L Lopez, the compiler of the report (which she published at 0530 hrs on the day of the Boston Marathon bombing – some hours before it occurred) is the most clued-in retired (??) CIA operative I have yet encountered. Her research and knowledge of the Muslim Brotherhood is exhaustive and the delineation of its history, development, infiltration and suborning of the Administrations of every POTUS since Eisenhower is packed with detail and analysis. She has carefully notated the report with her sources and references and it tells a horrifying story that must be disseminated as widely as can be achieved by all of us as it directly effects all of us in Christendom (even the agnostics and atheists, Peter). Read it all, I implore you.

    It even explains why the media are unable to expose the implications of the subversion of the West by a determined enemy and, as I said last night when I posted it, synthesises all our own disparate and struggling attempts to piece together the story. It is comprehensive, packed with data, names and informed analyses by a lady who knows her subject. It is a must read for anyone who wishes to understand why we are where we are.

    Ms Lopez’s biography is contained is this link.

    http://lopez.pundicity.com/about/

    Here is another essay she penned on the Benghazi fiasco:

    http://lopez.pundicity.com/12486/benghazi-cover-up

    May I suggest Peter, that The Gatestone Institute website be listed on our blog roll. It is a cornucopia of information about the war in which we are now all combatants.

    This is serious shit, folks, my irony, contrarian and flippancy synapses have been switched off for the night. The report is formidably long; but please persevere with it. You will not be disappointed. And I think it answers your questions Malfleur. I am surprised it is still available on the Web, it is a damning indictment of all our current Western leaders and for the most part the Security Services, not to mention many of their predecessors and it certainly explains the FBI deficiencies over the Chechen brothers.

    Make sure it is brought to the attention of Nigel Farage, Noa. Who knows, if he finds himself with a grace and favour appointment in the cabinet in the next GE, he may want to use the intelligence contained in it. When you understand how deeply and comprehensively the US of A has been suborned by the MB, just imagine what they must have achieved in Continental Europe? And of course the MB founders have adopted the tactics of our old friend Antonio Gramsci, so the circle is complete.

  28. Verity – you must be awake can you read my post of 01:24 above – it is flagged
    “Your comment is awaiting moderation”. I’m not sure whether that means it’s not appearing to others, but just on my own screen until it has been ‘moderated’?

  29. Malflear at 29 Apr. 21.00:I don’t support these these debates.This isn’t America.[Even in USA there were more then two candidates.You had to view Russia Today to see the others:Libertarian and Green.]It has been a fiction that we vote for a candidate not a party;this is less so a fiction now.At the last election UKIP stood down against half-a-dozen candidates [Cons. and Lab.]who were clearly ant-EU. Now much of the prejudice in favour of the big parties has gone.People are going to be looking at the candidates on offer;so the 3 party debates are clearly wrong……..I do wonder if over-seas Britons are registered to vote as they are entitled to if over-seas for less then 20 years.

  30. No, Frank P … no post tagged at 1:24 from you. The post before mine is from Noa and is timed at 00:36.

    Yes. I’m awake. It’s only 8 pm here.

  31. Frank. Posts with multiple links are automatically put in the moderation queue. If I’m awake then I am usually checking the site every few minutes but on the late shift it may have to wait till I check things on rising. I’ll download the report myself and add the site you recommend to the blog roll.

  32. Frank P, April 30th, 2013 – 01:24

    The quality of the information revealed by links that you posted is truly remarkable. Thank you for your many hours “trawling the interlubes” to bring us the real deal. As you say, the articles deserve a wider audience.

  33. When are the 14, or so, of us going to get to spend “an evening with Mr Alexander Boot?” Dinner? None of us are getting any younger and the Maître d’ of the big restaurant in the sky might call any one of us in at short notice.

    After 6+ months of canvassing it might be time to retire the stats, mebbe?

  34. I hope to see Mr Boot again soon and will be seeking to organise something in the nicer weather. My ability to organise significant events is constrained by the need to try and earn some money. But I certainly hope that we will be able to spend an evening with Mr. Boot. I’ll add a different question to the site. Thanks for the nudge.

  35. Frank P

    Many thanks for the link. I am trying to set aside time to read it properly and the others you have added at 01:24 above, as it seems lengthy and looks as though it needs careful attention.

  37. WATCH YOUR BANK ACCOUNTS

    They are seriously after our money:

    “Sinclair: “There has been a total blackout in the Western mainstream media regarding what just took place in Cyprus. [See my post April 29th 03:03]. Even where there was even scant reporting about Cyprus, they only reported approximately 1/3 of the amount of the assets that have effectively been stolen.

    Eric King: “Jim, what do you make of the fact that there was virtually no reporting outside of KWN on this situation?”

    Sinclair: “What that tells me is that ‘bail-in’ is now a go globally. There is no question that if you were to analyze the various initiatives in New Zealand, Canada, the United States, Great Britain, etc, you would know that ‘bail-in’ is definitely being framed and will now be applied as a replacement for ‘bail out.’

    So the fact that the news of the $4.2 billion that was just stolen from accounts in Cyprus didn’t make any mainstream US news, and wasn’t even mentioned on financial media during the day, tells me that there is definitely a feeling that what has taken place, and what is still to take place, will disturb the ‘social order.’

    Control of the news has always been predicated on what it is believed the public can take. The fact that this was totally blacked out underscores, without any doubt, that ‘bail-in’ is the method that will be used in any future bankruptcies in the banking sector…”

    [Read on at: http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2013/4/30_Jim_Sinclair_-_Media_Blackout,_Panic_%26_A_Major_Short_Squeeze.html ]

  38. Retrospective:

    After last week’s shocker from ACP, in addition to Frank P’s attribution of the source of the Boot blog, I’d like to remember that it was ACP who brought the antics of The 3rd Lord Moynihan to our attention. (albeit at another place)

    The 3rd Lord Moynihan, who has died in Manila aged 55, provided, through his character and career, ample ammunition for critics of the hereditary principle. His chief occupations were bongo-drummer, confidence trickster, brothel-keeper, drug-smuggler and police informer, but ‘Tony’ Moynihan also claimed other areas of expertise – as ‘professional negotiator’, ‘international diplomatic courier’, ‘currency manipulator’ and ‘authority on rock and roll’.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/6604750/Lord-Moynihan.html
    (A man before his time, these days he’d have made a damn fine PM!)

    Let us not forget that it was ACP’s, sometimes devastating, humour that inspired some to try and combat the slide at the other place. The, at times, surreal Korski was frequently enraged and was, arguably, a notable scalp. However the “Scotia Nostra” remained un-budged if not unmoved, and eventually just banned everyone who wasn’t “on message”. (It is, perhaps, not surprising that Korski ended up as advisor to the unelected and supremely unqualified Baroness (my arse!) Ashton – EU High Priestess, Foreign Affairs.)

    Where’s the fun now? Time for Tele, perhaps? I think so.

  39. Noa @ April 29th 10:27 (last week’s Wall – the postman Darren Swain.

    I only saw that late post of yours when I went back to check the percentage of Cyprus depositors’ cash deposits stolen by the Bank of Cyprus.

    Yes, I think most of these matters can be solved using Fluellen’s methods or more moderate versions of them where the offence given is so remote from the “offendee”; but the overwhelming entanglement of new laws have another function apart from keeping the peace or protect the decorous functioning of the Royal Mail: to accustom us to our chains.

    In the phrase “useless Jock”, is it the word “useless” or the word “Jock” to which offence was taken ? The marvelous Master of English at my school, a fan of the Goons and who also believed in fairies (the real ones), was called John Craig,and was a former officer with the Ghurkas. His nickname was of course “Jock Craig” but no boys were expelled or beaten for using it behind his back. It would appear that the word “Jock” without more is inoffensive, although it is the vehicle of the two words “useless Jock” that carries the racist burden. It is presumably still permitted to call someone “useless” without infringing any of the new encyclopedia of laws beneath which the EU is flattening us. Would use of the phrase “barely useful Jock” escape the stern hand of the Courts or “all but useless Jock” ? What if a “Jock” is indeed “useless”; what if a “useless Jock” is Prime Minister? Do we not have a solemn duty to say so? We should “say what we mean, not what we ought to say”. Are we still permitted to insult a man? I thought Godfrey Bloom, UKIP, did pretty well in that regard with his characterisation of the Prime Minister and the Chancellor of the Exchequer in his speech the other day, for which PaulJ gave us the link at 20:31 last week on 26th April at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6U7Lz-eH6k He seems so far to have gotten away with it – but Bloom is not of course a postman, he is an ex-soldier and might fight .

    The wretched Malvolios of the politically correct should be laughed off the stage!

    I gleek at them!

  40. Hexhamgeezer, Frank Sutton and David Ossitt – thanks for the feedback on berries last week.

  42. EC @ 09:25

    I thought bongo drumming had recently received a status among the British Establishment some way above brothel keeper etc. Of course in the 16th century and before, the Church and others put a higher store on the latter, though within certain geographical limits; so we read that ” that in 1393 the authorities in London allowed prostitutes to work only in Cocks Lane”.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gropecunt_Lane

  43. BBC news can’t resist an opportunity for a pop at Ukip – top item on R2 just now, a candidate suspended because he might have been seen doing a Nazi salute.

  45. Frank Sutton and Alexsandr

    The DT is at it too. The Barclays Brothers’ rag suggests that UKIP is having to play the politically correct game, as we all must have expected they would have to, by suspending one Chris Scotton, a candidate in Leicestershire who is reported by the DT to have said online that he liked as the DT puts it “the extremist English Defence League”. This is hardly on a level with the late Alan Clark keeping a painting of “Wolf” in his attic or Harold Wilson serving as a KGB man. In what sense is the EDL extremist?

    The time is long overdue for an enquiry into the racism and treasonable activities of certain Conservative/Labour Party members past and present.

    Return the fire, gentlemen!

  47. Malfleur, April 30th, 2013 – 09:56

    The Oxford Dons were not allowed women in college, I believe. I much prefer the former name. ‘Magpie Lane’ doesn’t have the same ring to it.

  48. Malfleur@April 30th, 2013 – 11:06

    This is stupid
    Since when were the Welsh a different race?

  49. Racism is no longer a matter of skin colour. The race card can be played when you belong to any defined group and can self-identify some degree of hostility based on membership of that group. Once you start an industry around race relations, as with any business, it will seek to extend its market and authority as far as possible. So now it is a racist hate crime to use all of the traditional terms that have always been used of various groups over centuries, usually without hatred.

  50. You mean I’ve spent all my adult years being discriminated against? Where’s me solicitor???

  51. Peter from Maidstone@April 30th, 2013 – 12:14

    You mean I spent all my schooldays repeating the adage ‘everyone from south of Batley are puffs’ and that makes me a racist?
    I am bereft.

  53. Ostrich @ 12:18

    You mean you have encountered ant-ostrich elements? How low can the country sink?!

  55. Malfleur (09:41)

    Just to be on the safe side of the leuw: when discussing Neil Kinnock, as we can no longer apparently refer to him as either “that Welsh windbag” or “the Welsh wanker”, is it permissible to legally describe him as “that windbag from Wales” or “that wanker from Wales”?

  56. I think that is allowed. But you might find that other people who come from Wales might object to being associated with him. So I’d drop the geographical reference and stick with the material aspect of each phrase.

  58. On the subject of the Church and brothels; for most of my earlier years as a cop, the Church Commissioners owned a sizeable chunk of Bayswater which comprised most of the brothels infested by the brass who serviced London’s tourist trade. There were later a couple of chancers who got in on the act in that locality, viz Perek Rachman of eponymous fame – and the other an erstwhile Tory cabinet minister who shall be nameless (and shameless) and who I’m sure, though not disputing the ownership, would disassociate himself from the lucrative activities therein, “Up with that I would not have put!” he would have asserted, as he surveyed the scene with Nelson’s telescope.

  59. Frank P@April 30th, 2013 – 13:19
    One could ask what is wrong with brothels. In the UK paying for sex is quite legal, but why do we restrict ladies to have to work alone?
    surely their safety dictates they should work in groups if they so desire.
    what business is it of the state to dictate how consenting adults manage their sex lives.?
    (Yes I know there are issues of trafficking and drugs, but other laws cover those points)

  60. Peter from Maidstone
    April 30th, 2013 – 13:02

    Yeah … but, but … “that windbag wanker” doesn’t have quite the same ring about it. Alliteration itself seems insufficient – in his case particularly. It is the collective propensity, or at least the perception of such, of the natives of that principality that adds the zing to the insult, surely. As someone who is at least one sixteenth Welsh, I understand whence cometh my own occasional lapse in that regard. Despite trying very hard to suppress it, it does erupt spontaneously from time to time. I may also account for my ‘unpleasantness’.

    As for the Jocks ….? I have no genetic claims there, thank f**k. But there again, with the Jocks, you never know, they did get around and as my paternal heritage was of the Frog persuasion, one can’t rule anything out. Perhaps I should consult that other little leftie wanker from Wales, Steve Jones, the geneticist. I understand he knows who everybody’s great-great-great- etc, etc. grandmothers and grandfathers were and that all we white males emanated from 5 African black women, anyway. So WTF?

  61. Alexsandr
    April 30th, 2013 – 13:24

    As I’ve never found it necessary to patronise a brothel – and spent quite a large proportion of my working life attempting to rescue the working inmates of the establishment from their unscrupulous panders and violent extortionists of the world of gangsterism, then my opinion is probably skewed somewhat. Which is why I carefully avoided any moral element to my little satirical dig above at the Church Commissioners, “just the fact, ma’am, just the facts.”

    But if you missed the element of loosening the strictures against the vices (in particular prostitution, narcotics and gambling) in the Gramsci inspired cultural war that exploded in the Nineteen Sexties, then you weren’t paying attention.

    But we have fried that fish before on this and previous blogs, without getting too far. At the moment, the Islamic encroachment is the more pressing issue. I would like to hear a little more from UKIP in that regard. They already have my mischievous Thursday vote; in the longer term I shall need to know what plans they have for repelling Mo’s mates, the Muzzie Bros. Carol Lopez has concentrated my mind on that issue.

  62. Frank P

    Further to your mention of brothels, one particular gem from a BBC programme (unbelievable I know) about the late great Dave Allen was the one about the two Irishmen who opened a pub, and nobody at all came in to buy a drink. Not one. Not a single patron, and one says to the other, “Well Paddy, I think we’ll have to give up the pub and maybe we should open a brothel instead.” To which Paddy replies, “For heavens sake, if we can’t sell alcohol, how on earth will we ever sell broth!”

  63. Can anyone explain to me what is “far right” about the English Defence League?

    “The al-Qaeda inspired Birmingham gang may have wanted to assassinate EDL leader Tommy Robinson, who had been due to speak at the event…
    …Copies of a letter, likely to have been distributed during or after the attack, also insulted the Queen as a “kuffir devil” and said the EDL or “English Drunkards League” was being attacked in retaliation for blasphemy of Allah and the prophet Muhammed. ‘ ”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10027237/Islamist-extremists-admit-planning-gun-and-bomb-attack-on-far-right-EDL-rally.html

    Can someone from among those who believe, in the face of the evidence, that members of the EDL are merely football hooligans opportunistically raising their profile in the fringe political arena explain to me the advantages that might accrue to them which might outweigh the exposure to calumny and murderous threats to which they expose themselves when exercising their rights of free speech and assembly?

  65. Frank Sutton
    April 30th, 2013 – 10:02
    One must be very careful raising one’s arm to straighten one’s hair. Better, bend down to tie shoe laces – and be one of those as Verity says, “Bum in air”!

  66. Frank P

    Without wishing to be unduly contentious for fear of provoking unpleasantness when more threatening occasions oppose against us all from another direction entirely,nonetheless… “As I’ve…spent quite a large proportion of my working life attempting to rescue the working inmates of the establishment from their unscrupulous panders and violent extortionists of the world of gangsterism…” – without any particularly spectacular success, one might infer from the London scene from 1950-2013. Hence Alexsandr’s implication that properly run houses might be preferable to gangster operations – except to those who, like William Gladstone – the Tony Blair de ses jours – want to strike a moral pose.

    I would prefer the frank approach of those who gave Gropecunt Lane its name to those who thought it naice to change it to Grape Lane.

    Just sayin’.

  67. P from M 08:28 – I suggest that you hold it in my area of Mexico. I get left out of everything.

  69. Malfleur.

    Modesty prevents me from arguing with the assertion: “without any particular spectacular success”; but there are a number of gangsters of yesteryear who might disagree with you. 🙂

    However, as coppering is a comparatively short professional life and even post-constabulary similar duties have to come to an end eventually, one never has the drop on the adaptability of Organised Crime, or on the base instincts and appetites that its practitioners grow fat upon. Added to that the jiggling of the Acts that were once both adequate and effective in keeping sexual exploitation to a manageable level in my day, the blunting of the tools of our trade, so to speak, were repealed and overlaid (or in some cases deliberately mislaid) by successive governments in the thrall of those in OC who had the money to grease the palms of legislators and enforcers. So add corruption to the other vices and you’ll perhaps grasp why we have arrived at today’s Sodom & Gomorrah. Cui bono? It would take a whole book to explain who, how and why.

    London from 1950 – 2013? What it would have been like had not a few like myself done what we could, despite the ruthless opposition of determined crooks, bent politicians and colleagues – and both leftist and far right ideologues,
    is yet another story, but I’m sure as a much travelled man, you visited worse hell-holes?

    Sometimes in moments of weakness, I wonder why I didn’t employ whatever meagre talent fate bestowed upon me to feather my own nest, as did some of my less scrupulous colleagues. You might think that as a ‘determinist’ I might have taken the path of least resistance. But whatever it was that kicked off my existence had already decided to instil in me a sense of right and wrong. And, to me, flogging female flesh for a living is pretty despicable – and accepting bribes to give the evil purveyors a pass, is an even worse crime.

    But as you say, that was yesterday. Today has to be dealt with on a daily basis, so let’s not waste our time thinking of what might have been, for better of for worse. Now .. back to the jihad.

    Irishboy (14:23)

    Aye, Dave Allen was a formidable wit. Has anyone done his authorised biography – or even an unauthorised one, come to that? He was without the politicised nastiness of most of today’s comics.

  71. Verity (15:17)

    If the mountain will not come to Mo’, then Mo’ must go to the mountain … ??

    What happened to your ‘homecoming plans’? I was planning to join you and Anne Kaye during your assignation and gatecrash the party – with my missus – of course. She’s i/c the medication 🙂

  72. Frank P – My cousin, who was going to help me finding a place and getting me set up with the social security issues has been deflected by her father having had a medical crisis. So I have no one to help me, and I certainly couldn’t do a re-entry to Britain alone after 30 years away.

  73. Verity
    April 30th, 2013 – 16:25
    Gal, wear a burka! You will receive a Park Lane mansion, or at least a NW London manor, and the clerks will fall over themselves to accommodate your needs. Trust me.

  74. Frank Sutton April 30th, 2013 – 10:02
    “BBC news can’t resist an opportunity for a pop at Ukip – top item on R2 just now, a candidate suspended because he might have been seen doing a Nazi salute.”

    I short video clip of this was shown on tonight’s BBC 6 o’clock news, what was clear to see was that he was sat in an easy chair leaning forward reaching for something with his left hand and unless he was trying to emulate Tom Courtenay in that wonderful film Billy Liar that is all it was.

  75. David Ossitt -“BBC News just can’t resist an opportunity for a pop at Ukip”.

    Of course not! They are fighting for their lives, privileges and money. The more they fling snide, emotional insults around at UKIP, the more frightened they look (and are).

  76. Malfleur at 14-29:……..A hostile report on the EDL from Chatham House says its members are mainly employed managerial and skilled workers.//It is the UAF,ofcause,who are the fascist street thugs.//The EDL are Right[and right]as Churchill was;yet the members are banned from UKIP,whilst Cameron supports UAF and Pickles violently abuses EDL.

  78. I discover an hostile report on the nature and membership of EDL from DEMOS dated 2011.This can be accessed by googling *demos inside the edl[pdf]*.The same google page also gives access to the Chatham House briefing paper.

  79. Enjoyed seeing all the usual suspects back in their greasepaint for tonight’s episode of “I, Clavdivs”. Until, just before the obligatory blood-letting, John Hurt appeared as Caligula, which started me thinking, “Isn’t this is just ‘Carry on Cleo’ with delusions of grandeur?”

  82. I see that the Barclay Brothers have been forced on the back foot by Lord Tebbit endorsing UKIP where to vote for them would block a Labour candidate.

  84. UKIP has a weighty advocate:

    http://alexanderboot.com/content/silly-enemy-can-make-perfect-friend

    After reading Alexander’s post, I also wonder whether Cameron and crew are arranging the cranky attack on UKIP supporters to swell UKIP’s vote, paving the way for UKIP to build up a head of steam and become the second party in the general election in 2015. Then a new alliance could be forged between to the Tory right wing rump and UKIP, with Farage holding a key position in the Government? It would of course mean the Tories keeping their promise to have a referendum on Europe, then, rather than canvassing for staying in, actually recommending secession from the EU, which by 2015 could well be an irretrievable basket case. Dave would have to step down of course, but he’s probably had enough anyway and already sorted out the fortunes of his lobbyists.

    Fanciful? Wacky? Probably; but Dave is moribund and it needs something really radical to stop the rot. A humiliating defeat in 2015 could in fact lead to the end of the Tory Party – period.

    Are there enough Eurosceptic Tory grandees to pull off this sort of devious subterfuge, I wonder? And who would the Tories choose as PM in such a rig-up? Nigel is not quite ready for that yet, perhaps; so in a Conservative-UKIP coalition, who could lead the party, pending the ripening of Farage?

    I know – it’s late and I’m rambling; but that’s the effect that Gospodin Boot’s mind games can have in the small wee hours.

    I’ve just finished reading his book “The Crisis behind our Crisis”. In it he has analysed our problems with great aplomb; his historical perspectives and deep insights are both inspiring and disturbing. We differ in only one respect – a major one, though. He insists that God is the the solution to a our predicament; very sadly I still think the God thing may well be part of he predicament- unwittingly of course, because even after some heavy duty Boot proselytising I cannot conceive of a benign author of the Universal fuck-up that I have witnessed for best part of 80 years. My money’s still on the Seven Blind Bastards of Fickle Fate. But – by God – he has constructed a cracking case, which deserves the scrutiny of all the cerebral souls sheltering beneath The Wall. Highly recommended! Caveat – he’s a bugger for archaic words, but makes up for it with neologisms. At least four I encountered were not in either my Wyld’s Universal or my three-volume Websters. The Intertubes rescued me of course. Nothing escapes them – with the sinister aid of Google. It is no coincidence imho that God and Google kick off with the same two letters.

    Nighty-night.

  86. Heard Hague on Toady this morning. He really didnt want to slag off UKIP, but just to push the message that tory councils keep council tax down. Didnt even want to say UKIP, kept saying ‘fringe parties’.
    When I did business training I was told to concentrate on my business, not slag the competition. I think he has had the same message.

  89. Frank P

    Excellent, considered analysis as is usual from the Wall’s night owl. Your motto must be “we never sleep till 3″!

    for what it’s worth, with Boris positioning himself to be nice to the UKIPPers ‘cos they’re just like us really”, and Lord Tebbitt also advising voters to vote UKIP we are I think, seeing; in the case of Bo’ pure opportunism and a bit of savvy. It’s nice to be nice and stab Call me Dave in the back at the same time.
    Lord T’s position is more considered; the start of possible serious bridge building.
    Of course it will be done on the rotting corpses of the Camerloons, who have created their own wet Passchendale.

  90. Noa@May 1st, 2013 – 10:38

    if UKIP do well will some tory MP’s defect next week?
    Nadine? Carswell?

  91. Here we go again, racism raises it’s ridiculous head once again, and will continue to do so until the body of the English nation stands up and says enough (Prey God they will do so on Thursday), and as for pussyfooting around the Welsh, do not insult us with such tender ministrations. I am 100% Welsh, a direct descendant of the ruling family of North Wales, I have never called Neil Kinnock anything other than a wanker, indeed I know enough people who knew him who concur with the analysis, and all my life I have been called a sheep shagger, it never hurt me, only the people I thumped.

  92. stephen, it goes both ways. twll duu bod saith has been muttered many times. But then one can be racist againt the english, only everyone else.
    (Sorry if my cymraeg is wrong.)

  94. With regard to comments above about the the Labour leadership smearing UKIP as “extreme right”, as though it were a smear. Hitler was extreme left. Churchill was on the right.) Anyway, by labelling UKIP “extreme right” they are appealing to many of their own voters, who would welcome an extreme right government to counter the last 25 years of extreme left.

    The more they label UKIP, wrongly, as “extreme right”, the more appealing they make them sound to the electorate at large.

    I ran into a man from London in the doctor’s office the other day, and he said that once past Marble Arch, “you could be in another country. You don’t see see a white face.”)

    Nigel’s problem is, he cannot speak publically as a true right winger, because Labour would have him arrested for “racial abuse” or similar fanciful, vague, malice-laden charge.

    And Labour is telling the voters that they want more of the conquering army imported? And Cameron, fearing to sound “racist” (a handy potpouri of a word), doesn’t even send out a subtle signal that the Tories would halt all immigration from the Third World, and repatriate most of them

  95. Aleksandr – Yes, Nadine could be a defecter. Interesting thought. I wonder if she would be welcomed by UKIP … I think she would.

  96. Verity
    Is UKIP “extreme right” or “extreme left”, yes you spotted that I was being ironic. The labels are both inapt and outworn mindless cliches, aptly fitting the cretins and journalists who seek to apply them.

    I like the description Libertarian personally. It perfectly encapsulates the minimum interference I demand from the state in the lawful conduct of citizens business.

    In UKIP at grassroots level, there is strong objection to tainting the UKIP message by being a home for failed Tory MPs who are worried about losing their sinecures at the next election and want to jump out of Cameron’s sinking ship. They’re not the conviction politicians the country wants or needs.
    I’d trust Carrswell as far as I could throw him. But Raab, Bone and some others would be worthy of consideration. After due supplication and renunciation of all things wet and festering…
    Is an en bloc defection on the cards?
    I rather doubt it, for the reason I gave above.

  97. Peter from Maidstone
    April 29th, 2013 – 14:05

    Regarding the statements of known criminal behaviour made by Tatchell; have you, or any other perchance forwarded this to Knacker of the Yard, demanding review and investigaton by the Operation Yewtree squad, ACPO, your local MP, Grayling, etc?

  98. Stephen Maybury, Alexandr and Malfleur.

    I don’t know quite how this Wales thing started but I’ve always found the Welsh lads I’ve met to be great fellows, always ready to pass over a sheep in exchange for some decent mint sauce.

  99. I haven’t Noa. But I note on the recent piece about the Coronation Street actor accused of a 44 year old rape that the police ask for information about any offences of child sex from any period. I don’t really know who should be contacted?

  100. Noa

    “never sleep ’til 3am”

    Got into bad habits observing the nocturnal habits of the night-birds ‘humanus criminalis’. Keeping a country pub with a late-hour dining licence for awhile didn’t help either.

  101. Noa@May 1st, 2013 – 16:20

    I rather hope its friendly banter. I have lived amongst the welsh and they were nice. But they took the p1ss out of us english and we reciprocated.

  102. Just noticed it was Mayday. so in case any Lefties visit the site, let’s make ’em feel welcome:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/8796628/Ed-Miliband-sings-The-Red-Flag-and-Jerusalem-at-the-Labour-Party-Conference.html

    I think the group involved is thinking of calling itself The Misfits. The numbers are the ultimate oxymoron – The Red Flag and Jerusalem, back to back.

    In case anyone here is still thinking of voting for a Labour candidate in tomorrow’s jamboree, please watch the clip twice. You deserve it.

  104. Peter 16.02
    I think our MPs are a good starting point…they have to answer all written requests.
    I’ll also send a friendly request for info to my local chief constable, who covered himself in L’gloire over the Charlene Downs ‘cannibal’ debacle and and new, under-employed Labour PCC.
    Grayling and the big cheese in will also be receiving summat early next week. Oh and Peter Hitchens too.
    Anyone else fancy taking the matter up?

    Happy English May Day everyone.

    http://resources.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/customs/questions/mayday.htm

    Like the red flag the marxist/Socialist variant can be applied up Miliband’s fundament.

  105. Over at the Telegraph Cameron’s reported to be considering offering an EU referendum before 2015 and de-ringfencing the Health and foreign aid budgets to help other Departments.

    Obviously he’s rattled by UKIP. But now that we know he’s on the run we’ll just have to push even harder to find out how many other ‘right things to do’ he’s prepared to back track on.

    All of them probably.

    The formula is written thus:-

    Density of spine= Number tory election seats lost + threat of 1922 Committee Motion of No confidence..

  106. Noa 18:38 — “Over at the Telegraph Cameron’s reported to be considering offering an EU referendum before 2015 and de-ringfencing the Health and foreign aid budgets to help other Departments.”

    Well, he would, wouldn’t he.

  108. “One race team fired their entire pit crew yesterday.”

    This announcement followed Ferrari’s decision to take advantage of the British government’s ‘Work for your Dole’ scheme and employ some Liverpudlian youngsters.

    The decision to hire them was brought about by a recent documentary on how unemployed youths from Toxteth were able to remove a set of wheels in less than 6 seconds without proper equipment, whereas Ferrari’s existing crew could only do it in 8 seconds with millions of pounds worth of high tech equipment.

    It was thought to be an excellent, bold move by the Ferrari management team as most races are won and lost in the pits, giving Ferrari an advantage over every other team.

    However, Ferrari got more than they bargained for! At the crew’s first practice session, not only was the scouse pit crew able to change all four wheels in under 6 seconds but, within 12 seconds, they had re-sprayed, re-badged and sold the car to the McClaren team for 8 cases of Stella, a bag of weed and some photos of Lewis Hamilton’s bird in the shower.

  112. PepsiCo removes `racist`add from online…………..But what colour was the goat??

  114. PoM – I read that down here. Surely HMQ still has enough powers to punish all those involved in this despicable episode?

    How does one petition Liz?

  115. Peter from Maidstone@May 2nd, 2013 – 09:34

    This is the problem with localism. The quality of the people on councils is poor. Our parish council never gets elected as no-one stands and they have to co-opt people. But their council tax precept is the highest in the district. Why do I need 5 layers of government- parish, district, county, westminster and EU. surely some room for pruning there?

  116. Perhaps, by tomorrow, they’ll be an ex-council, gone to meet their maker, shuffled off this mortal coil, snuffed it, etc etc (h/t Monty Python).

  117. What a beautiful mild May morning it is and it’s a polling day. We’ve got county and parish elections combined up here – does that and the weather account for the electoral busy-ness I’m seeing, or is something else up? Time will tell. I could just see dave and Broon standing side by side outside my local station muttering “loonies fruitcakes closet racists and bigots” together.
    In the call to arms to save dave, Peter Oborne, possessor of the 2nd most expensive accent in England steps up to the plate. Unfortunately young Pete’s screed demonstrates one of the problems journalists just can’t eliminate with technology. Google and spell checking in their ways can save the day but no one yet has invented the credibility scan which can alert Westminster Bubble writers when their prose strays into ‘what the hell has he been imbibing?’ territory.
    In his column today Pete with ‘sombre reluctance’ claims that Lord Tebbit (in comparison to the H2B) ‘does not understand the Tory party at all, and perhaps never has’. Pete suggests that an analysis of ‘every Conservative government that has ever existed’ would show that Tebbit’s description of UKIP ‘as the party which comes closest a traditional Conservative agenda’ is ‘bilge’. The big ‘O’ also places dave, self proclaimed ‘Heir to Blair’ (and how true that is) in the line of Disraeli, Baldwin and Macmillan as supreme Tory pragmatists re the ‘art of the possible’ he credibility scan goes off the scale in his concluding paragraphs where Pete puts reduced immigration numbers and that mythical (2018) dave negotiated ‘in/out referendum’ on the plus side of the great man’s ledger.
    (Someone has described that pledge as jam tomorrow but it will not even be that. It is something labelled ‘jam’ tomorrow but will be mainly bulked up with artificial (pro) E numbers).
    I’m not sure that Pete means to give the game away in this piece but he does so in spades. The pragmatism works only one way. The Tories and their leaders accommodate and react to an inevitable course of history. There is no room in his allegedly ‘conservative’ viewpoint for the party or leader to make history or to change its course.
    And that pete baby is why you and dave just don’t get it do you?

  118. Hexhamgeezer

    Excellent, inciteful post – Oborne’s a Camerloon toady of the first water who likes to submerge himself in a bubblebath of his own hyperbole, probably whilst wearing a rubber face mask of ‘Call me Dave’.
    Hopefully someone will forget to pull the plug one day.

    Here’s something much less tendentious from Dick Delingpole, on why he and Adolf are seen photographed together.

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/dickdelingpole/100214730/adolf-hitler-his-part-in-my-downfall/

  120. Peter
    you ask who we should cntact regarding Tatchell’s statement that he knows of specific individuals who have committed paedophile acts.
    The Metropolitan police details contacts for reporting serious sexua assaults. This is another channel to pursue for CHWrs’ who consider this is a matter which demands serious police investigation.

  122. Noa yesterday 22:28 – “What’s not to like with the expected downfall of Islamic Araby?”

    Can’t think of a thing. Well, maybe the duty-free shopping at the airports. But then, why would anyone be changing planes in a derelict country? So cancel that.

    Robert C – “the seven hundred sins committed in their lifetimes”. Has anyone else ever noticed how prescriptive their allah in the sky is? Jihadis get “72” virgins. Why 72? Why not 49 or 63? Not for them the loose idea of a heavenly life. Bazaar traders down to their sandals, they want to know what they are getting as their end of the deal with allah.

    Guess allah let them down…. fracking sod!

  123. Verity@May 2nd, 2013 – 13:52

    Jo Caulfield (comedienne) does a lovely routine where she says the virgins are like her auntie pat in dublin, a 70 yr old maiden aunt. She says how they will say to the jihadist ‘come here my lovely, and Doreeen down the church would like doing after me.’

  124. Alexsandr – I don’t find that funny. It’s too childish. What we should be making fun of is that some stupid islamic men are willing to sacrifice their lives for the reward of getting to deflower 72 women (or, more likely girls).

    Like everything else about islam, this is very weird and is against human nature as seen all over the rest of the planet. And how did mo’ come up with the number 72? He sounds a little fixated. Or the man who was taking notes when mo’ was suffering one of his epileptic seizures was a little fixated. Hard to say.

  125. This one is for young Price Willy. He’s moving to Anmer Hall, which is just down the road on the other side of the Sandringham Estate. We’ll see how much he cares about injustices perpetrated upon his young neighbours. Don’t need to bother his Dad or his Gran; it’s a no-brainer.

    As for the ‘councillors’ who reported young Kurtis to the police, the irate villagers who are well aware the lad’s sterling work with the War Memorial Garden and are presently contemplating erecting a gibbet, or least a set of stocks, adjacent to it, to deal with the idiots on the council that initiated this waste of police time and public money.

    This is the village where a local teacher reported HMQ for wringing a wounded pheasant’s neck during a shoot near the village, a couple of years ago. Parochialism at its very worst. Spiteful pricks and prickesses!

    Anyway, watch the national news on BBC, ITV and Sky tonight. They have all been alerted. I spoke to Kurtis and his folks this morning just before he was interviewed by a TV crew. He is one of the lads of the village who is renowned for for his industriousness and public spiritedness. The family have the support of the local community and the Clerk of the Council is in hiding. The family are getting messages of support from all round the globe. Apparently its ‘gone viral’ on this ‘Face Book’ thing that Peter keeps urging us to join.

    Ian Hislop did a thing on war Memorials not so long ago. I’ll drop him a line. He should be able to shape a good piss-take item for HIGNFY.

  127. Apparently Henry Bellingham, the local Tory MP, is also peed off (particularly on local election day) about the War Memorial fiasco. Should garner a few more votes for Ms. Rowbotham, the local UKIP CC candidate.

  128. Verity 2nd, – 15:00

    But its only a metaphorical deflowering, innit? Since the nutter is by now brown bread, has grown a set of wings and is sitting on the edge of a cloud dangling his tootsies in the fresh air, wondering when these 72 bints are going to arrive.

  129. How about some simple slogans for UKIP .
    I suggest , PEOPLE WHO THINK,VOTE UKIP.
    Other suggestions invited.
    I did think of a slogan for the sun a while ago.
    READ SHIT.
    THINK SHIT.
    TALK SHIT.
    I thought it cutting edge, but there you go.

  130. On reading that article on young Kurtis I can see why the councillors complained and the police so enthusiastically took the complaint on. Kurtis is demonstrating qualities that the Left (by which I now include the police) loathe. By caring so much in public for our Forces he is exhibiting fruitcake tendencies with added lunacy and is no doubt also a closet racist. The police were probably justified in a 2 hour grilling to winkle out any thought crimes he is harbouring.

  131. John Birch, that’s not bad, actually. “People who think, vote UKIP”. Of course, it lends itself to some crude variations, but as a message, I think it hits the spot.

  132. Verity.

    72 is a useful number, it can be used to estimate how long it will take for a sum of money deposited at a fixed rate of interest to double in size eg.

    If you divide 72 by the rate of interest lets say 4%:- 72 divided by 4 = 18 therefore it will take 18 years to double in size.

    This 72 rule also helps understand the effect inflation has on a capital reserve or keeping income up with inflation, in other words how long it will take to make the real value of money reduce by half eg.

    If the average rate of inflation were 5% then 72 divided by five = 14.4, so the real value of money will be halved in just under fourteen and a half years.

  133. John birch
    May 2nd, 2013 – 16:04

    All true Blue English Men and Women vote UKIP.

  134. David Ossitt@May 2nd, 2013 – 19:27

    Surely it should be 42, cos 42 is the meaning of the world, the universe and everything

  135. David Ossitt – No. Too exclusive of the Scots, Welsh and N Irish. True Brits would be better. TRUE BRITS VOTE UKIP Possibly there shouild be a tag line in smaller type. Any ideas?

  136. I also suggest another campaign run by some group —

    PRESERVE OUR HERITAGE — FOREIGN PASSPORT? NO VOTE

  137. Or _ NO VOTES FOR FOREIGNERS.

    I lived in Texas for 12 years, was employed and paid taxes all those 12 years, but did not have the vote. I wasn’t a citizen.

    Giving votes to foreigners who have no stake in the country is insane and malign.

  139. Hi Verity.

    You may recall we discussed George Bush Jn a while ago?

    We both liked him a lot. You thought him a good President whom/who you also liked. I regarded him as a NWO front and a disaster (TARP) who was just great value and a nice guy.

    Anyway, heres more reason for us both to like him……

    ‘George W Bush Practically Admits 9/11 was a ‘Conspiracy’ Plot – Latest Interview’

    Me, because it proivides confirmification from a source none dare say is spreading disinformification.

    You because, oh it’s just George doing what he does best.

    Regs.

    ‘Frank P – My cousin, who was going to help me finding a place and getting me set up with the social security issues has been deflected by her father having had a medical crisis. So I have no one to help me, and I certainly couldn’t do a re-entry to Britain alone after 30 years away.’

    ps are you returning to the UK?

  141. Or _ NO VOTES FOR FOREIGNERS.

    I lived in Texas for 12 years, was employed and paid taxes all those 12 years, but did not have the vote. I wasn’t a citizen.

    Giving votes to foreigners who have no stake in the country is insane and malign.

    John Richardson, Yes, I am trying to return.

  142. Any part. reason?
    Why ‘trying’?

    Not hard to find…North of France…busy little place…lots of foreigners…ask for ”UK’….tell ’em you’ve been persecuted etc etc

    Why ‘trying’?

  143. Because it’s three planes, four airports, which is a lot of stress. I also have three pets who will be coming with me. More stress. Changing planes, checking into a hotel with three pets in cages. I have nowhere to stay when I get back. Very trying.

  144. Verity

    When we get back, I think we should all move to Dersingham. It looks very nice.

    By the way Verity, as my Gmail has been hacked and I no longer have access to it, in the course of looking for a solution I went to the Google “Account Creation Page”. Among other information, Google asks for an applicant’s gender and the possible responses are, in this order, Female, Male, Other.

  145. Malfleur

    Other?

    Alternatives to that could be Either, Neither, or perhaps, Both (evenings only, by appointment)?

  146. Newsnight- David Starkey a forceful voice of erudite sanity – Versus three and one half loons.

    As the loons are all women does this mean women may, distressingly, be prone to socialist insanity?

  147. Noa
    May 2nd, 2013 – 23:23
    “Newsnight- David Starkey a forceful voice of erudite sanity – Versus three and one half loons”.

    Don’t you mean Question Time? Thought Starkey was brillliant, as always, and I absolutely loved it when he made mincemeat of Harman.

  148. Lesley C
    Sorry, Yes-thanks for that- t’was of course Question Time!
    Interestingly,I thought, the level of bovine Labour clapping was rather muted. The audience support for Prof Starkey almost reached equal levels to, and once surpassed, that of the others.
    Am I being cynical to suggest the BBC sound man adversely adjusted the audience volume level?

  150. Malfleur,2 May at 23.05:Google is `correct`.There are two sexes.There are a variety of `genders`:gay,lesbian,bisexual,transgender(GLBT);probably others.

  151. As SOUTH SHIELDS goes…….?? Byelection results: Lab12,493// UKIP 5,988(24%)//Con2,857//Indi.//Socialist//BNP711//Lib Dem 352(7th;lost deposit)……Where is South Shields anyway?

  152. UKIP win 3 seats in Boston [I wonder why?]. Winners,a mother and two daughters.

  153. Radford @ 1.40

    S Shileds is a coastal town on the south bank of th mouth of the Tyne. It is the eastern end of the Tyneside conurbation that will consistently return Labour because of its historical connections to the (now gone) shipbuilding and coal minig industries that were on its doorsteps. Howver it also has good beaches and does not have the atmosphere of a typical Labour inner city constituency which makes the 352 votes for the LibDems astounding because it does have enough potential non-labour voters who would also never vote Tory. The UKIP surge there is the #1 aspect of the victory considering the client (Labour) constituency is by far the biggest element to the electoral makeup there. To win nearly a quarter of the vote in the face of this client vote is very very impressive although it does indicate a stark social split (and elsewhere come to that) or ‘divisiveness’ as the BBC will attempt to smear notwithstanding the Old Labour voters who did back UKIP.

  154. Hexhamgeezer 3rd, – 10:44

    Do you think the local party will have enough nous to give the “duly elected candidate” elocution lessons before she makes her maiden speech?

  155. Hexhamgeezer@May 3rd, 2013 – 10:44

    Is it true it contains part of the northern part of Sunderland?

  156. One wonders if people will vote UKIP wanting a right of centre party when they would never vote tory because they regard them as toxic. (Fatchur legacy maybe?) I have heard the view that the scottish tories should disband and a new right of centre party be formed for similar reasons.

  157. Mother and two daughters win for UKIP in Boston – wonder if Mum’s name is Boadicea (Buddica if you insist)!

  158. Alexsandr 11.18: Maybe the rise of UKIP will help bury the concept of seeing every position in terms of left and right.
    UKIP seem to have drawn quite a lot of support from traditionally labour areas.
    The battle ahead is not between left and right but between those who believe in our country and those who don’t.

  159. Frank Sutton@May 3rd, 2013 – 11:28

    Sorry, i was being sloppy. I think i meant ‘non-labour’ rather than right.

  160. Alexandr @11.15, I think it just touches the northern boundary of Sunderland Central constituency and doesn’t get into S’Land proper.

  161. My Naughty Niece, in an attempt to cheer me up:

    COMPARING THE PRICE OF PETROL

    THIS WILL MAKE YOU THINK!

    Compared with Petrol……

    Think a gallon of petrol is expensive?

    This puts things in perspective.

    Diet Apple Juice 16 oz £1.29 ……….. £10.32 per gallon.

    Ocean Spray 16 oz £1.25 ………… £10.00 per gallon.

    Brake Fluid 12 oz £3.15 …………. £33.60 per gallon.

    Vick’s Nyquil 6 oz £8.35 …….. £178.13 per gallon.

    And this is the REAL KICKER.

    Evian water 9 oz £1.49 ……….. £21.19 per gallon.
    £21.19 for WATER and the buyers don’t even know the source.

    (Evian spelled backwards is Naive.)

    You don’t even want to compare it with perfume or after shave.

    Aannnnnddd …

    Ever wonder why printers are so cheap?
    So they have you hooked for the ink. Someone calculated the cost of the ink at
    (you won’t believe it ….. but it is true ……..)

    £5,200 per gal … (five thousand two hundred pounds)

    So, the next time you’re at the pump, be glad your car doesn’t run on water, or Tippex, Pepto Bismol, Nyquil or, God forbid, Printer Ink!

    Just a little humour to help ease the pain of your next trip to the petrol pump.
    And If you don’t pass this along to at least one person, your exhaust will fall off!!

  162. O-O @11.14

    She shouldn’t need lessons as she appears to have impeccable local local roots. She also has had an impeccable Millibandian trajectory (studied politics and media studies at Northumbria University,[1] before gaining a Masters degree in social work from Durham University). Just what the locals need – a labourite social worker.

  163. O-O & Hexhamgeezer

    And she’s a real Cushy Butterfield to boot. Didn’t Clear Memories have a photo of her from the rear in his recent “Taking the Piss” post?

  164. It’s interesting and annoying that the BBC is not listing votes and turnout on its coverage. So it is difficult to get a handle on overall levels of support. Is this deliberate to play down UKIP’s performance?

    How did it go for you Noa?

  165. Peter from M……:You need to go to the County Council web-sites to get figures.At Cameron’s home town ,Chipping Norton,turn-out was 29%(Con.1447votes,49%/UKIP 383,13%).

  166. Hexhamgeezer & Noa 3rd, – 12:45

    Regional accent – no problem, as long as it’s intelligible. Glottal (sorry, “glo’al”) ‘T’s and people (me included) are judging you immediately…and not favourably.

    “Cushy Butterfield” Yup…”like a byag full o’ saadust, tied roond with a string”.

  168. Noa 3rd, – 14:18

    “And she’s a real Cushy Butterfield to boot. Didn’t Clear Memories have a photo of her from the rear in his recent “Taking the Piss” post?”

    Nah. Ah telt ye before, there’s naen uv them fat eneough.

  169. When are the British media going to learn that there is no such thing as “transgender”?

    You cannot change your DNA. You can have yourself made into a facsimile of the opposite sex, but no surgeon and no pills can change your DNA.

  170. Ostrich (occasionally) May 3rd, 2013 – 15:18

    Umbrage duly taken, I wasn’t trying to write in a Geordie or Northumberland accent. It would be even less comprehensible than the Welsh I’ve seen around here!
    And I may not have mentioned the obvious before, but I’m from God’s own county, Lancashire. 😉

  171. John Birch: PEOPLE WHO THINK, VOTE UKIP

    In the 1952 US presidential election a supporter shouted at A Stevenson: ‘Every thinking person will give you his vote’. ‘It’s not enough’, replied the Democratic candidate,’ we need a majority’.

    Baron regrets to say it, John, it’s the same here.

  172. Peter

    In summary; 9 seats contested, 0 Won. 🙁
    Nearly 5,000 UKIP votes out of over 25,000 cast = 18% of the total went to UKIP.
    3rd place overall, behind Labour and Conservatives, beating Lib Dems and Greens by a margin.
    There are no UKIP seats in Lancashire, which is now a hung council. But, at least we ably assisted in the hanging!
    I got 12% of the vote. I didn’t fight the seat actively because, having formed the Branch in February, we only had sufficient resources to fight one marginal seat.

    I’ll post some further thoughts later.

    And thank you to all you Wallsters out there for your support, it was very much appreciated!
    Now we start planning for the next by-election and the EU and local elections next year.

  173. The sight, sound and smell of sour grapes pervades the media as UKIP prevails in large swathes of Norfolk and Cambs. The analysis of Westminster bubblers is amusing. Having called the shots for so long, the rude awakening has clearly been

  175. “sour grapes”

    A great day!

    the gLibDems, in particular, must be in need of some Preparation OUCH!(Tm)
    🙂

    The writing is on the back of the “cottage” wall for the Coalition, the Westminster Warblers and, hopefully, the BBC News & Current Affairs Dept. too!

  176. Comment of the day, from Michael Deacon’s Sketch in the DT

    “…Meanwhile the Lib Dems’ deputy leader Simon Hughes said the reason his party did badly was that they were in government. Never mind, Mr Hughes, not much longer to go now.”

  179. Frank P @ 21.35

    No idea, Frank, but his take on what’s wrong and why and the language he wraps it in? Brilliant, sublime. and genuinely heart warming. One doesn’t often come across something as short and as powerful as this. Only you may have a go, and hit the same level of impact.

    If he’s right, and Baron hopes he is, the ‘fruitcakes’ may become the preferred diet of the majority in 2015.

  180. Baron (22.01)

    Agree with your approval of the general message from Mr Taylor; problem for me is that he shares a surname with Laurie, Matthew and even that old fart AJP – all espousers of leftist dogma. So my antenna twitches. Paranoiac, I know, but that comes from having a long memory and a suspicious mind!

  181. And he may have been named after that other pacifist, Bertrand. Twitch, twitch!

  182. I have just seen the local election figures for Breckland, Norfolk. Not only several UKIP wins but many with UKIP in second place:

    http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/breckland_area_results_in_norfolk_county_council_election_1_2180142
    And look at the two Thetford contests, a very even handed approach, beating a Tory and a Labour candidate into second place:

    THETFORD EAST [was Con]:
    Denis Crawford (UKIP GAIN), 896;
    Marion Chapman-Allen* (C), 502;
    Brenda Canham (Lab), 360;
    Julia Yelloly (Green), 85;
    Bodo Rissmann (LD), 63. Turnout: 24.5pc.

    THETFORD WEST [was Lib Dem]:
    Peter Georgiou (UKIP GAIN), 814;
    Terry Jermy (Lab), 813;
    Tristan Ashby (C), 353;
    Danny Jeffrey (LD), 122;
    Carl Clark (CPA), 134;
    Sandra Walmsley (Green), 64. Turnout: 23.87pc.

    There is an associated article here:
    http://www.edp24.co.uk/news/politics/ukip_gain_five_norfolk_county_council_seats_in_breckland_area_1_2180179

  183. The associated article (above) has some good comments at the end of the article!

  184. Noa 3rd, – 18:20

    “but I’m from God’s own county”

    Didn’t realise you were an Ulsterman…oops! hadn’t scrolled down far enough.

  185. well Dave “fruitcakes and loonies” Cameron is getting his come-uppance.

    Regarding political slogans, many years ago there was an American hopeful running for President (I forget his name) and his slogan was “IN YOUR HEART, YOU KNOW HE’S RIGHT”.

    The opposition responded with “IN YOUR GUTS YOU KNOW HE’S NUTS”.

  186. The only UKIP member in Notts. lost his seat;but still came second at 31%(Lab.39%).Overall UKIP got 19% share;3rd.place(C.30%,L36.5%,LD9.5%).The Cons went down heavily to Lab.There was a similar picture in old Ken Clarke’s constituency(Con45%;UKIP19.2%).

  188. Richard Littlejohn sums up the Dersingham War Memorial scandal in one of his best: “No Good Deed Goes Unpunished.” Now all we have to do is await for the decision of the CPS to see whether that is the case:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2318548/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Proof-good-deed-goes-unpunished.html

    Thanks Richard for taking the time to craft an eviscerating little masterpiece. The bones of those listed on the memorial will be resting a little easier today as a result, I’m sure. Particularly the bones of this hero:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Beck_(British_Army_officer)

  190. Geert Wilders will be keeping an alert eye on these elections, I’ll be bound.

    I wonder if he and Nige are in touch. If Wilders wins in Holland, it could start a tsunami of sanity in other northern European countries (save Sweden, which is alread lost to the allah freaks).

  191. Please excuse for changing the subject, but I cannot resist commenting on my pet peeve. This piece of scientific illiteracy from The Mail.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2318863/Brighton-Council-adopts-new-MX-title-transgender-population.html

    Don’t they know that you cannot change your DNA?

    People so inclined can have themselves chopped about and packed with silicone, but they cannot alter their DNA. They will always be the sex they were born.

    If people want to pretend to be the opposite sex, that is up to them. But no matter how chopped about and pumped up, their bodies will remain the sex that’s on their birth certficate. (Although I seem to remember the grotesque Cherie Blair trying to get permission to change birth certificates so that they would reflect the sex you felt you were.)

    There is no operation that can change your genes.

  195. Rain! We haven’t seen any rain for 10 months! The rainy schedule isn’t pencilled in until June, although there is a slight possibility of late May. How I would love to see cloudy skies and rain!

  197. Frank P – That is absolutely wonderful! Thank you! going out to lunch so can’t watch the whole thing just now, but will when I get home! Thank you!!!

  199. 3. Ribble

    To finger ones anal passage
    THIS CAN BE SEEN (RIBBLE) IN THE URBAN DICTIONARY
    Nigel Evans represents Ribble Valley

  201. There is nothing gay about rape. Obviously the allegation is that he either forcibly rammed his dick up somebody’s arse, or down their throat. Perhaps if people stopped describing debauchery in euphemisms and ostracised the dirty bastards who indulge in it, there would be a little less of it about.

    The news reader just stated that he ‘came out’ sometime ago, as he didn’t wish to ‘live a lie’. Sounds like he came in rather than coming out – allegedly!

  203. Frank P
    May 4th, 2013 – 22:37
    Frank, With all these allegations of rape involving famous people, this is all rather like The Night of The Long Knives. One could substitute the ‘Knives’ in this for a more apt word. Any suggestions?

  205. AWK 20.05 – What a hoot!

    Frank P 22:37 and 21:43 — You should be writing comedy. Those were great!

  206. AWK @ 22.43
    May 4th, 2013 – 23:26
    The poet that dares not write his name! 😉

    Verity
    May 5th, 2013 – 00:19
    I must have been an ugly maiden. Despite pondering hard, I have failed to produce one famous person trying to breach my modesty! Seems every other female in the land was ‘historically’ groped etc, save me.

    AWK 20.05 – What a hoot!

  208. It struck me that a very simple method of deterring the eastern bloc immigrants from swamping the UK would be to refuse recognition of their driving licences and forbid them access to UK roads until they take a UK driving test, conducted in English.

    Similar disruption should be applied to Poles, Latvians etc by using the Vehicle Inspection Agency to assess their cars and confiscate on the spot, those that are unsafe, as foreign registered cars do not have MoT’s.

  209. AWK 01:10 – You write “I must have been an ugly maiden. Despite pondering hard, I have failed ” … and, given the subject, I read it as, “Despite pandering hard, I have failed …”.

    Clear Memories 2:12 — Sounds like a plan …

  211. More cameroonian drivel from W Hague the ‘gone native’ FS. He says that the Tories voters recognise concerns but omits the 2nd part “and we shall find ways to ignore or neutralise them”

    Hague you dckhead – this isn’t a short term protest situation you have here.

    That Westminster Bubble is a remarkably robust thing – you would think with so many pr!cks inside that it would burst.

  212. sorry – should be ‘recognise voters concerns’. Blame Ben 10 brain scrambling.

  213. Google , rise up Australia .
    with the new party in Germany and what’s going on here with UKIP , the lefts long march may find the road getting a bit bumpy.

  215. Strong performance from Godfery Bloom

    LCC elections over and the Tories are giving us another post election gift, already planning for the potential by-election we will fight for UKIP.

    I will be proposing our election campaign HQ to be the Lower Buck in Waddington. Thwaites ales and the best Steak and Kidney pudding in Lancashire. 🙂

  217. With gay ‘marriage’ being lined up for us, i wonder how long the Management will judge it OK before they introduce that other ‘conservative’ measure, polygamy (and polyandry to avoid Human Rights charges of discrimination). I’ve not seen it mentioned at all by champions of gay ‘marriage’ or the MSM which leads me to think that it is next on the list of essential conservative legislation from daven’edn’nick. The arguments dave uses for gay ‘marriage’ apply equally to polygamy and he would have ample support from our !$lamic brothers who must be feeling mightily aggrieved at daven’edn’nick’s inexplicable oversight and strange priorities.

    I wonder how the ground will be prepared before they spring that little one upon us.

  218. Hexham, the arguments apply to incestuous marriage as well. As long as two adults love each other it is only fair that they be allowed to marry. And of course the modern New Conservatives entirely support marriage!

  219. Same old same old but it bears publicising.

    The criminal policy we have in Afghanistan which has resulted in the waste of over 400 of our youngest and best on the altar of – what? – continues apace. In a variant from the regular murder of our troops by our laughably described ‘allies’ we had the murder of 3 more soldier travelling in a heavily armoured Mastiff carrier this week by a massive roadside bomb.

    If you’ve ever seen the size of those beasts you would realise that it takes more than a pressure cooker full of gunpowder to tip those things over but a bomb big enough was planted on it’s route.

    And who is now responsible for security on these routes now? (according to the Sunday Telegraph) our troops’ old enemy the Afghan Army.

  220. Clear Memories (02:12)

    Your manifesto is improving by the minute. Tick all those boxes.

  221. Peter from Maidstone@May 5th, 2013 – 12:24

    Re polygamy. Who wants 2 mothers in law? !

    re incest. The problem with incest is it tends to produce deformed babies, so I think that should remain taboo and illegal.

  222. But if two closely related people decide not to have children why should they not be able to marry? Why should they be denied what so many people enjoy? There can be no taboos in the New Conservative world.

  223. Peter from Maidstone@May 5th, 2013 – 13:44

    so you are suggesting we have a law that allows a man to marry his sister, but makes it illegal for them to have children? How does that work then?

  224. Clear Memories at 02:12

    Your usage of “swamping” is yet more right-wing hyperbole! The BBC has confirmed there are only 7 Romanians and a nice couple, both teachers, from Bulgaria coming over.

    You know full-well that we do not have an immigration problem in the UK and we could do with more, you know, to solve the “ageing population” problem. Gosh, I love the diversity it brings because, God knows, that old, majority-white Britain was an appalling country, wasn’t it?

  225. Alex..

    I’m hardly suggesting it. But I am saying that it must inevitably be introduced since under the New Conservatives marriage means no more than it did for Karl Marx and Owen, that is, it describes only the fact that some people are in a relationship of some sort for some time. When marriage means everything then as intended by our enemies, it will mean nothing.

  226. Alex…

    Actually introducing incest as a legal category of marriage woule be very useful for the ememy since they could then also introduce a licence system to allow procreation. Of course the various members of the client and immigrant state would get licenses while the bigoted, hate-speech spewing members of the tax paying class would be generally refused.

  227. That African MP who’s a Conservative has writtten a dynamite column in The Mail. I found myself agreeing with every word and every thought. He’s far more Conservative, and far sighted, than Shamoron, and far more articulate.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2319632/Its-time-Cameron-stop-pussyfooting-PM-rival-Adam-Afriyie-calls-cent-tax-immigrants-mass-deportation-incendiary-manifesto.html

    If you read what he says, I think you will wish he were your MP.

  228. There are problems with the server so all messages are going into the spam queue while they fix it. This means I have to watch for every comment and approve it, while deleting the large amount of spam that is constantly being submitted. So do bear with me if your message doesn’t appear immediately. I am trying to make sure there is as little delay as possible but I have to watch the site continuously.

  229. I don’t wish Afriyie was my MP at all. He is just a man who knows to say and when to say it. I don’t think h ecan be trusted at all. He is entirely a self-publicist and is determined to do whatever PR is required to get a better job.

  230. Thanks for the tip-off P from M. He sounded too genuine to be an opportunist, but what do I know? I am a long way away and have never even seen him on TV.

    Nevertheless, what he said has now had an airing, while others held back from being so harsh.

  231. Verity, if you have some time later then you can see that he is being bigged up as a future PM, (in fact he is bigging up himself).

    But I do think that since he has said what he has said, as a black MP, means that we can all agree with his suggestions even if we give him no credence. It is rather good to see the Conservatives scurrying to try to match UKIP, but their agreement with UKIP will give UKIP greater strength ad authority not less.

  232. is it just me or is everyone having issues with this site this afternoon? Hope its fixed soon.

  233. P from M – Yes. It is good to see Conservatives scurrying to match UKIP. Let us hope this trend takes hold, giving the perception that UKIP is the leader and the Tories and others the followers.

  234. The server is having problems. I have to run it on a fairly basic account because of costs. I am also having to authorise all the posts as they are made so this is also slowing down response time. I’d like to move the site to a dedicated server but I can’t afford to. So we have to put up with it as it as at the moment.

  235. With all this marriage talk, I did say, months ago, that if same sex marriage is permissible, so should marrying one’s pet, e.g. dog, cat, goldfish, et al. However, we are now in more sophisticated times, so may I suggest that there are so many wankers around, mainly conservatives and LibDems, that they should be able to marry themselves. This freedom to marry oneself would also entitle schizophrenics to the same opportunity, whilst multiple personalities would be able to marry themselves several times without converting to mohammedism.

  236. Beware dirty tricks:Grant Shaps says Con. party will produce draft Bill for EU referendum.[Radio4;5pm.]

  237. The Conservative idea of a referendum is “Do you want us to renegotiate the terms of our membership of the EU, or should things stay the same?”. The sort of referendum we want is “Do you want to leave the EU or stay in it as we are?”. There are no renegotiated terms available.

  238. methinks the only way the tories can gain any credibility is to thy and force an in/out referendum to be held before 2015, and try and show up the limp dumps and labour as undemocratic. But I don’t think they have the stomach for it. and not 100% sure it would deflower UKIP in any case.
    In a word, they are F*cked.

  239. I agree Alexs…

    If the Conservatives try to organise a referendum it will be used by UKIP whatever they try and do. And if they don’t then this will also be used.

  240. Alexsandr

    dave couldn’t be clearer. He is being dragged kicking and screaming in the direction of a referendum which will involve him in a ‘negotiation’ with his EU colleagues. They will strain every sinew to produce something that will be presentationally acceptable but will, if we look at the large and small print be the biggest collection of weasel words ever seen in politics. With dave and his ilk in charge of this ‘negotiation’ we will have the initial problem of them looking for every excuse to delay matters and there will be plenty of opportunities to do so. Every day they will be looking for an event that will allow themselves to put the whole thing on hold. Their starting point will be to drag the whole business out – set a deadline and they will cry that they haven’t had enough time.

    We need someone negotiating from the starting point that we will leave but are willing to listen to good reasons to stay engaged in particular areas like trade. we have a good and honourable and friendly case to put but dave and nick and ed will not deploy it because fundamentally they don’t want to leave.

    An offer of a negotiation and referendum from the Cons, or LibLab, is a smokescreen.

  241. In or Out is the only negotiation the British people would respond to. No smokescreens with sub-clauses and exceptions.

  242. Hexhamgeezer@May 5th, 2013 – 17:58

    agree 100%. and I think a lot of the electorate are coming to the same conclusion.

  243. Hexamgeezer 17:58 — Agree.

    What’s more, it’s insulting. Do they really have so little regard for our intelligence that they think these circumlocutions will fool us and lead us into obedience and compliance?

  244. just posted on the other place:-
    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/05/the-tory-party-holds-it-nerve-for-now/

    If cameron doesn’t fear UKIP he is an idiot. Ignoring Thursdays results is a move of breathtaking arrogance. He is seeing his party and its core vote evaporate.

    and Labour and the lib dems should look over their shoulder too. All 3 parties are in trouble.

    מנא ,מנא, תקל, ופרסין
    “Mene, Mene, Tekel, u-Pharsin.”

    Daniel 5:25

  245. Cameron’s present election ‘pledge’ is entirely bogus, depending as it does on “negotiations”, If the other EU states are unwilling to negotiate – and why would they be? – no negotiations will take place, and hence no referendum.
    The only way to get the EU round the negotiating table is by invoking Article 51 (I think it is) of the Lisbon Travesty and announcing the UK’s intention to leave.
    And even he presumably knows this.

  246. In the aftermath of Thursday’s vote I’ve spoken to a losing Liberal Dem who is a friend (he’s human, honest – not interested in national politics) and our nascent UKIP crew who are a father and daughter team. UKIP did badly as did the Lib for very specific local reasons but what is very interesting is the panic mode the Tories are in locally. They did well for parish and council because we loathe the reorganisation forced upon us in 09(?) but it is clear that they are absolutely crapp!ng themselves for the Euro and, more importantly the nationals in 2015. They have decent people in place here but they are hearing time and time again that they cannot expect the same votes in 2015.

  248. And speaking of Melanie, she has just announced her new publishing project:
    Details on her blog (just click on blog roll).

  249. Frank P at 21:34

    Those 4 summary points are startlingly clear: can it really be true?

  251. Verity 18.45

    The answer to your question is Yes.
    Dave and chums really do believe that the electorate is stupid enough to believe their empty promises. What should they not?
    After all Cameron has made the promise before and no-one shouted too much when he broke it.
    Hopefully it’s different now. The May elections could be a ‘game changer’, as Nigel Farage said, but there is no guarantee of that. And the political establishment well look for some way, and use any means, to distract and subvert the popular revolution.

    I recommend the following fascinating post by Peter Hitchens, no fan of either Cameron or Farage. Whilst he forecasts thedeath of the Conservative party in ten years, he has, rightly, reservations about both Farage and UKIP. Where I would concur wiith him without major reservation, is that at this time UKIP represents the popular will.

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2013/05/its-too-late-to-say-youre-sorry-mr-slippery.html

  252. A recent recommendation by Peter Hitchens, one of my heroes, at the link below (and they are very few in number), has led to me re-watching, in an almost hermit-like condition of isolation, the 1964 BBC series “The Great War”. This can be obtained on Amazon for about £50, it can be bought on ebay for about £10 or less.
    But best of all for those who wish to enjoy this masterful and erudite series, it can be viewed for nothing on You Tube.

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/first-world-war/

    It is recommended viewing. Indeed it is essential for those who wish to show what the BBC was once capable of achieving in quality output, in contrast to the depths to which it has now sunk.

  253. Noa

    Your mention of Peter Hitchens leads me to quote his view of Nigel Farage from his column on Sunday:

    ” I think he is a charming charlatan myself, and his party a rickety jalopy bolted together in a garden shed.”

    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/

    Mr. Hitchens seems to have abandoned hope on all matters political as of one who believes, though in his case from a Christian perspective, that there is no free will and that all is pre-determined. I probably do him wrong and I enjoy his writing and independence of thought. I was brought up in the protestant tradition with many a saying packed with generations of experience, in particular ‘God helps those that help themselves’. Generally speaking, charlatans who are making good money in trading metal do not abandon that line for an iffy future among scurvy politicians – usually it is vice-versa. Mr. Hitchens may therefore be confounded in his estimation of Mr. Farage – let us hope so –

    …”to hope till Hope creates
    From its own wreck the thing it contemplates…”

  254. Malfleur

    Like you I don’t share Hitchens view of Nigel Farage. He is an unlkely hero, but nevertheless he is a hero. Quick thinking, charismatic and determined he has shown that
    politics does not have to be dominated by the parties of a monochromatic and squalid status quo. He has provided hope.
    As to the ricketyness of his party, I can attest to it!
    So what!
    We have provided hope where we won seats. And provided the example of stubborn determination where we fought the party machines but did not. I’m proud that in my town, with five people, £200 and a scratch campaign started in February, we took 18% of the vote and forced the main parties to deploy all their considerable resources.
    Now we can concentrate our efforts and resources into widening another gaping Tory wound in the Ribble Valley, where the malodorous whiff of a promiscuous sexual scandal starts to spread and initiate a national debate on the new immorality.
    Again we may not win a seat, but we will hold up a mirror on the standards within government, and the reflection will not be favourable.

  255. This is criminal, surely?

    A total of £1,146,614 was handed out to the operators of 13 Scottish wind farms when they were ordered to stop their turbines (for a single day!) last month because it was “too windy.” Reportedly the National Grid can become overloaded when nature’s bounteous providence is too generous in the wind department. These payments are funded by guess who? Yup, US! The dosh comes from electricity consumers’ bills.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10038598/Scottish-wind-farms-paid-1-million-to-shut-down-one-day.html

    Who will rid us of these scamsters? Only UKIP.

  256. The electric bill includes 19% taxes and levies of one kind or another.

  257. Frank P @22:43

    Further to the details that you supplied earlier, here’s an interesting Fox News Special Report.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9Lc3jNx2PQ

    Reportedly the State Department is withholding documents, and the O’Bummer mob are </del) administration is threatening witnesses. Who'd had thunk it, eh?

    I don't think, I sincerely hope, that this issue doesn't go away.

  261. Peter from Maidstone@May 6th, 2013 – 10:51

    does you wife act as brickies labourer while you erect the new wall? 🙂

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