The Coffee House Wall – 30th/6th July

Posted on June 30, 2014

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106 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 30th/6th July”

  1. Now ISIS is claiming a new Muslim state, how long will it be before the BBC comes out and supports them.

  2. It’s the top story on BBC online.
    With a bit of luck they can all leave and go off to their new pure Islamic state.

  3. Frank Gardner, John Simpson and all the other BBC ass-crawlers will have a field day at the celebrations for the new Islamic State. Maybe they will even get their heads blown off!

  4. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    June 30th, 2014 – 12:16

    I should have written “their heads cut off.”
    Lawrence of Arabia would be in his element if he were still alive. Masochists United!

  5. I nearly forgot Jeremy Bowen, Off with his head! And surely, the Angel of Death, Orla Guerin’s head would look good on the end of a stick :=)

  6. Cameron has said that he will support a libdem bill to keep foreign aid at 0.7% of GDP.

    Whats a plonker!

  9. RobertC,
    Trying to bring his government down? Robert, it is down, we are just waiting for the coup de grace. As for the aid question. they are perfectly aware of the electorate’s views on this subject. it is an illustration of their staggering arrogance and contempt for us that they choose to ignore our feelings. Still, only 10 months to go, and I do not think that any of the mainstream parties have a seat which they can consider safe. A la lantern.

  10. I see that dread question of statins – take them or dump them? – is still unresolved.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10938633/Fears-that-attacks-on-statins-could-put-lives-at-risk.html

    And that is along with aspirins – one a day keeps a heart attack away – and anti-flu vaccines – get through the year without a sniffle -, and other favourite that I’ve lost track of which line up the medical profession for or against.

    Spinach is still good for you though, I hear, if you can detoxify it first. I just wish I could buy it here, but the supermarket which carried the real thing a few months ago no longer sells it.

    Ah, for English vegetables!

  12. Over the weekend I was reading somewhere a review of Leonard Woolf’s novel set in Ceylon, The Village in the Jungle – which I haven’t read.

    As a young man with scarcely any experience Woolf was appointed as a District Commissioner there with responsibility for 10,000,000 people.

    He enjoyed the power but concluded it was bad for his character and bad for their character – a reasonable price to pay for equitable application of the laws and no mass shootings I would have thought – but that’s the liberal mind for you.

    I checked on him in Wikipedia and of course read there that “In 1960 Woolf revisited [Ceylon] and was surprised at the warmth of the welcome he received, and even the fact that he was still remembered”.

    I wonder what his views would be on the way the law has been administered there since 1960, were he alive today.

  13. stephen maybery

    But REAL chips though – not those plastic things. Can they still be got?

  14. “A government-contracted security force threatened to arrest doctors and nurses if they divulged any information about the contagion threat at a refugee camp housing illegal alien children at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio, Texas”

    (h/t Fox News)

    They should rename the airbase Lacklaw.

  15. Not that anyone should be that interested what with the strange names of those involved, the way the news became public, and the nature of the affair …

    In Poland, a paper has recently published a secretly taped conversation between two politicians. Part of their conversation referred to a chap called Zsolt Hernadi, the chairman and chief executive officer of Mol Nyrt., Hungary’s largest refiner. He was accused by the current Croatian government of bribing a former Croatian PM Ivo Sanader with Euro5mn to arrange for the sale of 48% of Mol’s equity held by the Croatian state.

    Ivo Sanader got caught, charged, sentenced by a Croat court. The Croatian government then asked for a European warrant for the arrest of the naughty Hungarian Hernadi. This would have prevented him to travel anywhere within the EU, if he did, he would have been arrested.

    Here the story, if you still follow it, becomes interested. The Polish politician who met Hernadi claims in the taped conversation that Hernadi told him he had figured how to get out of the predicament. He would arrange for a fake trial in Hungary to clear him of any wrongdoings. This duly happened soon after the conversation when a Hungarian court threw out a complaint by a private shareholder that the deal Hernadi arranged with the former Croatian PM currently doing time disadvantaged her. As a result, Hernadi can now travel freely in the EU, the decision of a court in any of the member states is binding in all other EU jurisdictions. The Croats could take a running jump.

    Doesn’t it make you happy that Britain is a member of a club, in which another member has its judiciary to do the bidding for a corrupt man? You may also recall Hungary was the only country that backed our boy in his unsuccessful opposition to Junkers.

  16. Malfleur,
    The same is happening here. Diseases which were thought to have gone for good are now prevalent, spread by our rich diversity. London already has the highest incidence of TB in Europe. Why do these liberals hate the society which has given them everything? and who will not rest until they have reduced us to a third world sewer where bubonic plague is as common as a dose of the flu. There are times when I despair for the future of the Anglosphere.

  17. It’s interesting I think that the ECHR has upheld the ban on the burqa being worn in public spaces in France. It seems to me that the French law in the first place – introduced by Sarkozy and supported now by Hollande – prevented an easy attribution of racism to this policy. Unless our politicians are willing to publically call the French Government racist. But now the ECHR has also agreed that it is not racist or discriminatory.

    I wonder if there is now scope for a similar campaign here in the UK on the basis of the French and Belgian policy and now the ECHR ruling. I might drop a letter to my MP.

  18. PfM 2nd, – 10:09

    “I might drop a letter to my MP.”

    Who is one who could usefully use one? 🙂

  21. Baron

    I am sure that in August 1968 as the Russian army rolled into Prague you did not indulge in screaming, or arm waving but expressed your regret and objections as a cool, balanced take on the incursion in a voice nicely modulated and convincing.

    Well, bully for you Baron! But then you had somewhere to run to. Now, we are all backed into a corner and if you want live you had bloody well learn the anglo-saxon way to scream and wave your arms and more when your freedoms and culture are being destroyed.

    But I will take a look at your link when I get up tomorrow morning.

  23. John birch July 2nd, 2014 – 19:21

    “http://dailym.ai/1o8CtqH”

    My McAfee did not approve of this site.

  24. David , an I phone takes you to the story. But I agree I don’t approve of the story either.
    Your device has good opinions.

  25. Malfleur @ 16:12

    As it happens, Malfleur, you’re right, Baron didn’t shout , wave arms around, others did, and a fat lot of good did it do, it took another twenty years for the evil construct to fall apart. The point, if there is any, is that in the good Republic of today it’s the lawyers who do the running, one has to keep calm, hit them also through the ballot box, then new statutes preserving the borders and everything that goes with it, hopefully the good professor is doing just that, pushing people away from the messiah towards the sounder lot.

    Baron has noticed th messiah is the least successful President since the war, his approval rating well below Bush’s, Romney’s making a comeback canvassing in New Hampshire. Good sign, isn’t it?

  26. Baron

    Thank you for your cool and balanced take on my post.

    Of course when facing tanks, screaming and modulated voices are equally ineffective.

    Before the order for the tanks to roll is given though, I think there is scope for both approaches.

    I have watched the video made by Professor Lovell at the link which you provided at the politically incorrectly named Patriot Network TV and I agree with you. The professor introduced content which I had not heard before. I have to say however that within the constraints of the tight camera frame of the gentleman’s torso there was a certain amount of waving around of arms and in his voice a certain amount of, dare I say, anger; but your other comments are well-taken. As professor Lovell says though “if you’re not mad [angry] about this, you’re not paying attention”.

    That the seditionist in the White House should sue American citizens on behalf of Mexicans and Mexican drug cartels who are breaking the laws of the USA, and with the Mexican government as amicus curiae, is of course another outrage to be added to the mound which the is piling up in the Rose Garden.

    Were I an American, I would have to scream.

  27. Since I mentioned that our worthy Ed Balls was an attendee at the Bilderberg Group conference in Copenhagen earlier this year, no one has actually followed up to ask why he was there and what he was contributing or taking away from the meeting.

    May be the agenda was simply a series of papers on how to popularise football in the United States.

    Well the agenda was in fact leaked prior to the meeting and can be found online, published of course by a disreputable source.

    The agenda included:

    3) The rise of nationalism within Europe that is challenging the power structure of the European Union

    I see that the Guardian published a couple of articles and has begun to ask a question or two; for instance,

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/02/bilderberg-2014-george-osborne-john-kerr

  28. In the glorious Islamic paradise known to the wider world as Tower Hamlets, two young men were assaulted on Saturday night. The men were gay and were named, so far so routine. The two assailants were part of a group of four touring the area on bikes and were arrested, no mention of their names, no racial profile. Why this omission? Well we all know what goes on around here, Muslim vigilante groups touring the district attacking folk, usually white for behaving in a manner deemed offensive to Islamic mores. Even a boy and girl walking down the street hand in hand, the most natural thing in the World, have been abused. This thuggery will never be eradicated until the authorities take the gloves off when it comes to dealing with fanatics. We have the right to walk our streets in the reasonable expectation of safety. In this neck of the woods it is only a matter of time before ISIS stands for election. Fanciful? Don’t you believe it.

  29. Malfleur, I don’t read the Guardian, but that piece was very interesting indeed. Is it possible that there are those on the soft left and right who just cannot stomach what is happening. I am reading Goodhart’s book on immigration and he sees it as a challenge to the British working class and does not accept mass immigration as an ideological given. If the Guardian starts looking at Bilderberg, even from a soft left liberties and democracy point of view, then it is a start.

  32. Hi folks – bee to Wales for a break

    How to the WAG afford to keep the roads there so well maintained. Think I saw 1 pothole the whole time. even on back roads, like the llanidloes-staylittle-machynleth mountain road. Then once back into england to bumby roads full of naff repairs and holes. Something unfair about the funding there…

    Note the Daily Mirror had a front page (edition I saw) discussing islamics in the UK inciting people to go to syria. And the lefty mirror is covering the FGM story today also. I think the tide may be turning against the excesses of islam.
    Hopefully a lot of them wont like the new climate and will go elsewhere.
    i even saw anti islaic graffiti in a public loo in a welsh village.

  33. Bye election in this neck of the woods today, the whole shebang being supervised by the electoral commission. Now get this, they have said the returning officer must make the announcement in English. How unsporting, in English, I ask you, where the devil do they think they are? This is Tower Hamlets for God’s sake, not Machynlleth.

  34. alexsandr – 16:24
    When the Welsh talk about immigrants, they mean us. 🙂

  35. Whilst day dreaming (I do it a lot these days) I had a thought, might it be a good idea to bring Sharia punishments to crimes committed by the returning jihadists?
    Nothing too severe just the odd beheading, stoning etc.

    If they wish to bring the benefits of a Caliphate to the world then let them have their wishes fulfilled here.
    Just a thought.

  36. DO
    I reckon we just cancel their passports while they are away. Then they cant come back.

  38. alexsandr
    July 3rd, 2014 – 16:24

    Condition of roads in Wales: Would that be the happy result of channeling taxes from the English middle classes to pay at last some of the debt incurred by the centuries of Anglo-Norman oppression of the Principality?

    By the way, strong Welsh ale can do wonders for one’s typing.

  42. “Savage called the border crisis an “invasion orchestrated in the White House for political reasons.” ” [ibid]

    Oh he’s just a conspiracy theorist – fuggeddabowdim! Neathergate’s the same, huh, Fraser?

  43. This extraxt below is the main part of an interview by Alex Jones with Darrell Hamamoto who is a Professor of Asian American Studies at the University of California, Davis.

    The clip is 1/13th of the Alex Jones Show broadcast on 3rd July. The “20:20 initiative” is designed to create a new subservient underlass out of touch with the American political traditions and ready to serve the larger welfare system planned for the immediate future of the USA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekj-YBryRwE

    The model apparently is based on one previously introduced into the United Kingdom.

    Worth a listen. Crikey. we’re dooooomed!

  44. Rt Hon Keith Vaz MP, Chair of the Committee, said [in a Commons Select Committee report, dated 18 December 2013]:

    “It is shocking that 28 years on from female genital mutilation first being made a criminal offence, there has not yet been a successful prosecution in the UK. The Committee’s inquiry will seek to find out why this is the case, as well as considering what more needs to be done to protect at risk girls. We would welcome evidence from those affected by this hideous crime as well as those whose responsibility it is to protect them.””
    http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/home-affairs-committee/news/131218-new-inquiry-fgm/

    and then, this week, we have:
    “In a highly critical report MPs have condemned what they say is the scandalous failure to protect girls in the East Midlands from becoming victims of female genital mutilation.

    The estimate is that many thousands are affected by the practice which has been illegal in this country since 1985.

    The Leicester MP and Chair of the Home Affairs Committee Keith Vaz has called for a national plan of action. He says FGM is a severe form of child abuse which can never be dismissed as “cultural – it’s criminal”.
    http://www.itv.com/news/central/update/2014-07-03/leicester-mp-keith-vaz-leads-calls-for-action-on-fgm/

    And, in this recent video, the little sh1t says it is a national scandal!
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/video/2014/jul/03/fgm-female-genital-mutilation-keith-vaz-video

    It isn’t. It isn’t British (or Irish, or even European)! It has been unknown on these isles for thousands of years, yet in the last fifty years it has been a growing because of the multiculturalism that has been forced on Britain’s indigenous population!

    To highlight the authorities’ betrayal of Britain, we have, ironically, on the BBC, Joan Bakewell, who knew the situation in the Nineties! Yes, in the 1990’s, it was well known what multiculturalism protected!

    “The final programme featured, among others, members of a Somali women’s group, a Horn of Africa community group and the consultant obstetrician and gynaecologist who had explained what was going on. The women who had themselves been cut explained they were keen to protect their daughters from such treatment and see the practice brought to an end. They explained that their greatest enemy was their own mothers, who saw themselves as the upholders of an ancient tribal rite against the corrupted notions of their Westernised daughters. None of these grannies would be interviewed.
    Instead, to put the other side of the argument, I talked to the novelist Buchi Emecheta, who declared this was a proud custom of her Nigerian heritage and would we Westerners kindly mind our own business. But she didn’t say “kindly”. In fact she was resolutely angry that our culture was invading her own and she would have no truck with suggestions of cruelty and choice. The times were such that multi-culturalism held full sway, and it was indeed considered an outrage to impose one culture (ours) on another (theirs).”
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/10944121/FGM-at-last-the-dangerous-silence-is-lifting.html

    We have had immigrant MPs and local councilors (County, District and UA) for many years. Surely, if they wanted to live in Britain, why did none of them initiate a discussion on this subject?

    If this is such a barbaric custom, which it is, surely, it must come from barbaric countries and we need to stop people from those countries entering this country, or at least telling them that their customs are inferior to ours and if they want to practice it they must return whence they came. And to those within our (non-existent) borders, the same should apply. And the whole, extended family need to be returned, not just a couple of individuals.

  46. RobertC
    July 4th, 2014 – 10:52

    I think you hit the nail firmly on the head – this is not a ‘national’ or ‘British’ problem. In as much as it is a problem, it is a problem for those with feelings when faced with the actions of unintelligent savages. Vaz might be a slimeball but his ethnic background generally at least treats women better than Africans and Arabs.

    Just because Buchi Emecheta can communicate in English, it does not make her civilised or even human. We can teach parrots to say “chop off the clit, sew up the bits”. What sub-humans choose to do to each other should concern us, but to the extent that we concern ourselves with the mistreatment of animals.

    Having had contact with various “cultures”, specifically African and antipodean aboriginal, as well as PNG, I believe that we are not necessarily of one species with variations of a fundamentally cosmetic nature (ie. just because we don’t look the same, doesn’t mean we aren’t.) I suggest readers acquaint themselves with the Red Deer people, where there appears to be a conspiracy NOT to declare these as fore-runners to Homo Sapiens because this would mean species arose separately by a significant geographic distance. The social engineers know exactly what this means – we are not necessarily all the same under the skin.

    Nobody has yet successfully explained why sickle-cell anaemia doesn’t affect Caucasians.

    As an aside, we had a re-run of QI on the national broadcaster here where they defined a phobia, as opposed to a fear. A phobia is that which one might have a terror of but is unreasonable. Thus one can have arachnophobia, but there is no “-phobia” for being scared a nutter with an axe might break into our house – it might happen!! Thus, in my opinion, Islamophobia is a misnomer, an incorrect definition. There is nothing wrong with being worried about these mad bastards existing and living amongst us.

  47. So Rolf Harris gets 5 years and 9 months. I wonder if Harriet Harman and her pals, patron saints of kiddie fiddlers will be visiting him in the pokey? More importantly, why is Harris jailed when there are many in political life guilty of crimes of equal depravity whose transgressions are discretely ignored? To this question there must be answers, loudly announced and not whispered in hole and corner fashion by some Royal Commission whose remit is to spare the blushes of the mighty.

  48. Clear Memories
    July 4th, 2014 – 11:44

    Tell the Chinese that we all came out of Africa and see what the reaction is.

  50. Stephen .

    Exactly, to suggest they have a link to black Africans is a total insult.
    They hide their attitudes to black people well , but when you know them well they open up, and they are not to keen.
    That’s putting it mildly !!!!!

  51. Seems a bit unfair that Rolf Harris is now being chased for an even longer sentence than the 5 years he got. It would be easy to imagine that the Attorney General – Dominic Grieve – thinks he can score some populist points by seeing Harris die in prison.

  52. I’m hopeless at drawing, but I have a concept for a cartoon, perhaps to be printed after a ‘No’ vote in the Scottish referendum showing the back view of a tumbril containing the two “Poissons ecossais(e)s” standing bound and blindfolded as it heads towards a guillotine in the distant background.
    I know political cartoonists plan a long way ahead…perhaps one of them already has something similar hidden in the deepest depths of his portfolio.

  54. Peter from Maidstone July 4th, 2014 – 17:06

    “Seems a bit unfair that Rolf Harris is now being chased for an even longer sentence than the 5 years he got”

    Five years nine months I do believe.

    I have felt uncomfortable about this case since the beginning, unlike Max Clifford and other similar cases that have gone to trial where I felt no unease, this Rolf Harris trial has troubled me.

    To strip him of his honours and to give a serious sentence that might well be extended is in my opinion a tad cruel.

    I would have expected a suspended sentence, and considering his age this would have been more appropriate.

  56. Radford NG

    Great article by Scruton – but how tragic.

    Fraser Nelson may not have fallen off his horse on the Neathergate question, but at least he seems to feel able to publish this piece, albeit not written by himself.

    One hopes that Nelson particularly took to heart the wider implications when Scruton wrote “He was sounding a warning that was bound to be ignored, given the profoundly anti-patriotic character of the educational establishment of the time”.

    Unfortunately, this is a case where the saying ‘better late than never” is belied. It is too late; and not good.

  59. Herbert Thornton

    The trouble with this type of murderous regime is that one day they run out of other people’s property.

  60. By the way, there was once a revolutionary slogan, was there not, that ” La tierra es de quien la trabaja”?

  62. Xi Jinping, President of China, has just made his first visit to Korea in his capacity as President.

    But he has chosen to visit not the capital of North Korea, but that of South Korea – and to have actually called for de-nuclearisation of the Korean Peninsula.

    I think that this development is at least as significant as was President Nixon’s visit to China in 1972.

    Yet the western media have not been drawing any parallels between the two events, nor have they been giving the increasing cordiality of China’s relationship with South Korea much attention at all.

    I have no idea what relationship (if any) may develop between North Korea and Japan, but some recent talks between Japan and North Korea about Japanese citizens kidnapped by North Korea decades ago make me wonder what we may hear next. Some kind of co-operation between North Korea and Japan?

    Does anyone else sense that changes are afoot?

  63. Does anyone else sense that changes are afoot?

    Perhaps the Powers-that-be have realised that their plans are thwarted by Islam and Islam cannot be defeated until all non-Islamic nations are working together (at least on the surface). In every significant nation, Islam is becoming an ever-increasing irritant and threat to social cohesion and civil calm. Even China is experiencing problems.

    Islam has for far too long had a ‘free pass’ from the Left and their friends in the media, in turn preventing politicians of all nations and creeds from addressing the anti-social aspects of the inhuman cult. Perhaps, just perhaps, the declaration of the Caliphate has opened the eyes of these dhimmis to the realisation that the freedoms they enjoy will cease to exist under Islamic rule.

  65. ??confused??

    Just watched an old Time Team on More 4 when they were in Denia in Spain excavating an old Moorish settlement.
    They were quite clear that much technology brought by the moors when they invaded the iberian peninsula was in advance of the European ideas at the time. The pottery was way better, and they also were said to have brought advances in Marthematics. No doubt other stuff. I believe they brought lenses to Europe as well, for magnification, telescopes and for eyesight correction.

    So what caused the Islam world to ossify and caused the Europeans to flourish?

    Just look at the stuff we created in the UK, like the Chronometer, the steam engine and later the steam turbine, electricity, inoculation/vaccination, being clean during surgery, antibiotics, evolution and understanding geology, radio, radar, computers, world wide web, hyperlinks. And our music and the arts too.

    what has islam brought us in the last 400 years? Even their killing machines are from other cultures. Their favourite weapon, the AK47, is russian.

    anyone got an explanation for this?

  66. Alexsandr 5th, – 10:36

    Several years ago I met a bloke at a Nautical Institute seminar. He had taken a job teaching at a nautical school in ad Dammam, in Sordid Arabia. Apparently, at the start of every school year, the first thing they had to teach was why they would have to use S.I. units instead of their own local forms of weights and measures.
    For, you see, Sordid Arabia is he Centre of the Universe, and all other systems must bow to theirs.

  67. Malfleur,
    Thanks for your comments on my review. Perceptions have changed greatly since the seventies, when to place all blame for the conflict on Germany was de rigeur. Since the fall of the Berlin Wall and the opening of the Russian archives to historical research, much new information has come to light. Before things kicked off, Conrad von Hortzendorf, the Austrian Chief of Staff demanded war on Serbia on 12 separate occasions, dating back to 1912,

    McMeekin lists Tuchman in the bibliography, as does Margaret McMillan in The War That Ended Peace, another well rounded analysis of the events of that period. I hope you are able to grab a copy of Russian Origins, it is well worth a read. Christopher Clarke’s The Sleepwalkers is also worthy of scrutiny.

  68. Ostrich (occasionally)@July 5th, 2014 – 10:59

    when I did navigation, it was all nautical miles. Fir a nautical mile is one minute along a meridian. So plotting course to steer is far easier than using Km.

    as for a country that is right and the rest of the world being out of step, you cant beat the US
    For most of the world, boyage is red port markers are on the port side when going into port. except in the US
    most of the world uses 240v 50Hz. US is 110v 60Hz mains electric
    and the US do their autumn clock change a week later than the rest of the world.

  69. Malfleur at 23-27; 4 July.

    Ray Honeyford’s original article from the Salisbury Review is republished in the Telegraph as below.

    He comments on the twisted concepts of:racism;black;race riots;cultural enrichment;and immigrants. (The Lord of Appeal referred to is presumably Lord Justice Scarmann.)

    It ought to be noted that it was the Sikhs who were first decreed to be a `race`;not the Muslims.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/3654888/Education-and-Race-an-Alternative-View.html

  70. Radford NG – 16:00 “the Sikhs who were first decreed to be a `race`”

    Was that the motorcycle helmet clash?

    I do often wonder whether they ponder on what they initiated.

  71. Alexsandr 5th, – 11:49

    “a nautical mile is one minute along a meridian”

    Well, that hasn’t changed…it’s simply been redefined as 1852.0 metres.

    As for American buoyage, I always thought of it as a bunch of natural landlubbers who needed guidance to get to sea, so red had to be to port on the outbound voyage…as opposed to Brits who, as natural seafarers, needed guidance when approaching port through a maze of shoals. Oh, wait, remind me again, just what percentage of Brits work professionally at sea? 🙁

  72. when I need a nautical mile i use the minutes along the side of the chart. And I have the log set to Mn/Hr. Buggering about with 1852 metres is too hard for me.

  73. Malfleur July 4th, 2014 – 23:49

    By the way, there was once a revolutionary slogan, was there not, that ” La tierra es de quien la trabaja”?

    Translation please!

  74. Clear Memories (5 July 03:47)

    Your suggestion that the non-Islamic nations are starting to grasp the seriousness of the threat that Islam poses to their civilisations – and indeed to their very existence – is something to be devoutly hoped for.

    There is, as you say, a need for all significant nations to work together to defeat it. I believe that the need is desperate.

    Actually, the most realistic policy towards Islam is that of Japan, which is to ensure that Islam has virtually no presence in Japan whatsoever.

    That policy seems, to me, to be one which China could also adopt – and agreement on that might outweigh both their mutual resentments over Japan’s former militarism and their disagreements about islands and potential oil deposits under their adjacent seas.

    If Russia could also find common cause with both China and Japan on the matter of Islam, that would be very encouraging indeed. Certainly President Putin has always seemed very realistic about Islam.

    Sadly, there seems, at present, not much chance of Western Europe and the U.S. waking up to the fact of their almost Gadarene rush downwards into subjection by Islam. Their education systems, their justice systems, their main political parties, their media, their elites and establishments – not to mention their general populations – seem to have been brainwashed into imagining the only problem consists of a few Islamic fanatics, and that taken as a whole, Islam is completely harmless.

  75. I have a hypothetical question for Wallsters:-

    Suppose I wish to contribute financially, (now being a little long in the tooth for bearing arms myself) to an organisation that is prepared to physically defend christian from rapine, robbery, and mass murder in those parts of the world where they are now subjected to it on a daily basis, does anyone know of such a body?

  76. H Thornton.
    The key to solving the problem of militant Islam lies is the cess pit of the al Saud, they fund international militancy in order to buy peace for the dynasty, and the price is paid by us in more than one way. Until the West grasps the nettle and puts them out of business then this wound to our society will not be cauterised. I fear that by the time our inglorious leaders screw up the courage to do what is necessary it will be too late.

  77. David Ossitt
    July 5th, 2014 – 19:18

    Apologies: “The land belongs to those who work it”.

  79. …and somewhat more dramatic, the following YouTube film based on The Guns of August which takes the view that the Great War was not inevitable. One way and another, I am not made at all confident of the world’s present leaders and their ability to avoid disaster – though I like to think that they have it and wish to use it…:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4zPg5Kv_ug

  80. Malfleur.
    Thanks for that link, most interesting but I would take issue with certain of her points. For instance, the Tsar did not refuse to sign an agreement with Wilhelm, they rendezvoused on the Baltic and Nicholas signed enthusiastically. When the Tsars ministers found out what he had done there was uproar in St. Petersburg and he was forced to retract.

    As for the current situation the parallels with a century past are all to clear and I am not at all sanguine, disaster is a Soho whore waiting for the punters to divvy up, and you know what? they always do.

  81. It was the best of times:

    “London Forecasters have good news for those fearing that Britain faces a long, slow decline into economic mediocrity: the UK will still stand tall among the world’s biggest economies in 2030, having overtaken France and even made progress on closing the gap with Germany.
    Only India will leapfrog the UK on the rich list of nations, according to the report by PricewaterhouseCoopers (PwC), as the previously fast-growing countries Russia and Brazil struggle to make ground on the global league table.” (Gulf News)

    it was the worst of times:

    “Royal College of Surgeons issued a report that the British National Health Services (NHS) is denying life-saving operations because of age discrimination in defiance of the law. New data documents for the first time that across large areas of the United Kingdom no patients above the age of 75 are “receiving surgery for breast cancer or routine operations such as gall bladder removal and knee replacement.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/05/UK-Systematically-Denies-Surgery-to-Seniors

  84. Well. Yer lives and yer learns. Nipped out for the paper and bumped into my old mucker Terry, as usual we had a good old bitch and a moan about the state of affairs in Whitechapel, we strayed onto the subject of Altub Ali Park, guaranteed to get Terry going, he told me something interesting, Altub died as a result od a racist killing, now get this, the assailants were West Indian. They don’t tell you that in the Guardian do they? I then added my two pennorth to the pot by pointing out that it was just down the road that Dick Turpin was first apprehended, he escaped by shooting his accomplice in the back. Always was a classy neighbourhood.

  85. Here we go again. Another pointless body of research, if indeed you could call it that, more a case of the insanely ambitious in pursuit of the witless. Oxford Street the most polluted area in the World. The writers of this barrow load of claptrap have obviously a limited experience of the World and have never experienced Tehran, Baghdad, not to mention Karachi. As for Manila, don’t even go there. This was in the Sunday Times. Is there a journalistic prize for splashing crap on the front page?

  86. Malfleur
    La Legion etranger????
    These days the French government, like the British, is more likely to supporting the killing, persecution and ethnic cleansing of Christians from ‘muslim’ lands than protecting them. The political views of European government having changed somewhat from the time of the crusades, when the Pope and Europes leaders wanted to protect the Christian population from the muslim holcaust, rather than encourage it.

  87. Noa @ 20:54

    You may find churches doing it on the quit, some of them anyway, but a charity saying openly it’s set up purely for the purpose of saving Christians? Hmmm.

    Baron googled ‘charity saving christians’ and got ‘Charity to Help Children’ (Save the Children) as the top result’, ‘Muslim charity’ followed second. No kidding, you can try yourself.

  89. Now, here’s a real life story for you:

    Last week, on the day of the enhanced security alert for the country, Baron went to visit a friend who has a job in the City. In front of the building that houses his employer there stood a burly late twenty something, white shirt and a black tie, tattooed neck, shortly cropped hair, a sizeable communication gadget in hands. He stopped Baron with cool politeness but, to Baron’s liking, excessive firmness, asked which firm the friend worked for.

    Baron answered giving an abbreviated name like M&S. ‘No such company here’, said the man. After a short exchange, in which Baron insisted the company existed, had offices in the building, the man saying it didn’t, Baron wised up, said ‘Marks and Spencer then?’ (that’s an example, not the friend’s company).

    ‘That’s the right answer, sir’ said the man adding in an authoritative voice ‘we have to be very careful, dangerous people may try to enter the building’. This may Baron chuckle: ‘Are you suggesting someone who dresses like me, is as old as me …’ Rather curtly, the beefy man interrupted: ‘And how do you suppose we can tell?’ A black beard?, could that be a good hint?’, said Baron.

    Until this point the man was unpleasantly polite, the remark turned him openly hostile. He asked Baron to step aside and remarked: ‘This is stereotyping, sir, and stereotyping is racist. I have to call my supervisor’. And he did. The boss appeared instantly (he was just round the corner), the two had a chat whilst Baron waited, and overheard the end of the conversation, in which the boss said ‘just give it up, Kevin, give it up.’ To Baron he said ‘go ahead, sir, just forget the whole thing, go ahead, it’s all right’.

    and it should be quiet not qiut, the poorly educated Slav never learns.

  91. Baron,
    I did enjoy your last post, relished it in fact and could not resist speculating on what would have happened if it had been me in your place. Being a irascible Welsh git I am not inclined to keep my trap shut on anything, especially something which irritates me, like some po faced politically correct prat attempting to tell me what I can and cannot say. I fear I would probably been arrested, but by damned it would have been worth the effort. Cymru am byth.

  92. Thanks to Wallsters for the replies.
    There’s no need or opportunity to part with my money I see.
    It’s apparant that, except for the Falangists, Christians do not now seem to accept the necessity to protect themselves by force of arms. Perhaps several centuries of Western supremacy made them complacent.
    I expect that, as it did for the Jews, the penny will drop after a few more massacres…

  93. Noa, I am not entirely sure how you expect the Christian communities to have been able to exist as armed and independent groups within the Islamic Empire. That battle was lost in the 7th century.

  96. Baron@July 6th, 2014 – 14:01
    reminds me of a story in a bill Bryson book. His US passport said William Bryson but his publisher booked an airline ticket for Bill Bryson. It was a domestic US flight. Did they let him fly? did they heck.

  97. “..That battle was lost in the 7th century.”?

    Really? Your history is a little awry Peter, by half a millenia.
    The middle East was Christian and Jewish until the sack of Jerusalem and the enslavement of its people by the invading Seljuk Turk Sal Had Dinn and his jihadist horde. The Greeks fought on during the Turkish domination of their country-no surrender there. The pint is of course, if you’re not prepared to fight for your beliefs like the jihadists, then you are simply cattle for the slaughter.
    In the meantime, my donation gathers interest in its electronic account….

  101. Baron
    July 6th, 2014 – 14:01

    Only a few weeks back you were advocating cooperation with this type of crypto-police official to facilitate their task. I am glad to see that in practice you are beginning to talk back. Better in my view to nip this kind of thing in the bud though and walk on past. Before you know it, they will be groping your genitals in public in search of hidden devices as the TSA does in the former republic of the USA. If these places want people to sign in and state who they are visiting, let them do so inside the building where they have some authority to do so.

    In the meantime, resist mind control by minding.

    On that theme, there was a famous motion debated and passed in the House of Commons in the 18th century “That the influence of the Crown has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished.”

    It is unfortunate that in the United States no elected citizen has been free enough of corruption, intellectual etiolation or plain political cowardice to move “That the influence of the federal government has increased, is increasing, and ought to be diminished”.

    In the United Kingdom, by contrast, the timely motion to debate would be “That the influence of the Crown in Parliament under God has been reduced, is being reduced, and ought to be increased”.

    Fat chance! And why…?

  105. Alex Jones reported on Sunday that Obama has ordered the opening of the entire border with Mexico from California to Texas and that Mexico has opened the border with Guatemala.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu60KKJ4XC0

    This developing and patently manufactured crisis in the USA does not seem to be perturbing anyone in the United Kingdom.

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