The Coffee House Wall – 3rd/9th November

Posted on November 4, 2014

This is the Coffee House Wall for this week. I won’t say that it is your chance to communicate with us, as we are all in this together. It is, nevertheless, the Conservative Blog post that has no particular theme, and where everything is on topic. Let’s just remember that we want to avoid ad hominem attacks on others. We don’t want to engage with trolls. We want to moderate our language ourselves as responsible and mature adults, choosing to use fruity language only where it is necessary. This is our opportunity to show what the Spectator Coffee House Wall could have been like.

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211 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 3rd/9th November”

  1. Sorry for the delay in posting the new wall. I had a funeral to attend yesterday.

    And thanks to those who contributed to the running of the site over the last few days. It is much appreciated.

  2. As the poppy memorial grows apace it offends all the right (sorry left) people.

    The crazy thing is their biggest objection to it. They hate its patriotism.

    As Jonathan Jones on the Guardian said: It’s disturbing that in the 21st century that we are still only commemorating our dead and not Germans or Russians”.

    Ridiculous lefties seem to have any idea that all our freedoms came as a result of patriotic people fighting to make their home a better place. No patriotism, no progress.

    Incidentally, theres a great post laying into the Guardian’s art critic called “the Essential Virtue” at:

    http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2014/11/patriotism-essential-virtue.html

  3. “Honolulu, it’s got everything. Sand for the children, sun for the wife, sharks for the wife’s mother.”

    – Ken Dodd

  5. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    November 4th, 2014 – 12:15
    Libyan Trainee Cadets Kicked Out Of UK After Sex Attacks …
    http://www.lbc.co.uk › News
    LBC
    50 mins ago – More than 300 Libyan troops arrived at the Bassingbourn Barracks, Cambridgeshire, in July … Libyan Soldiers Sent Home After UK Sex Attacks
    Dear, dear, we must be shtoom! Mustn’t be accused of racism must we?

  6. The MSM have been busy on behalf of Mo’s Bros today: a succession of Muslim activists have been paraded before the cameras saying that the beheadings of the journalists and aid workers by ISIS have in fact been beneficial as it has put many of them off going to Syria and Iraq to join the jihad. So the relatives of the victims should be happy that they didn’t die in vain, they posit. Thank you for those words of wisdom RoP. Beneficial for whom? The more of you who leave and become bomb fodder for our Tornados the better. Piss-taking douche bags! And that’s the just the media twats who give them air-time. There are no words to describe the Islamic filth that proffer this propaganda with the aid of the traitors within our media.

    On second thoughts, yes there are: demented, devious, dirty, deluded, barbaric bastards with shit-for-brains. I’m sure Wallsters can better those submissions to start the ball rolling – come on now, what am I bid?

  9. I see that Bonnie Greer is criticising Griff Rhys-Jones for opposing Miliband’s mansion tax. The problem I have is that she is not British, although I accept she has gained British citizenship. And so I’d rather she didn’t tell us all how we should run our own country. She has told Rhys-Jones he should give his house to the NHS or the homeless.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11207306/Griff-Rhys-Jones-should-pack-up-and-p-off-over-mansion-tax-says-Bonnie-Greer.html

  10. Barbarians
    When will we listen to Blair and get boots on the ground

    A ‘price list’ for Yazidi and Christian women and child slaves abducted by ISIS militants as spoils of war has been unveiled.
    The terror organisation recently boasted of enslaving women from the Iraqi ethnic minority.
    According to the document, obtained by website Iraqinews.com, just £27 will fetch a Yazidi or Christian woman aged between 40 and 50.
    Chillingly, a child between one and nine will fetch four times that.
    The document also states that the slavery market has recently taken a downturn, hitting ISIS’ war chest.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2820603/The-price-slave-determined-official-ISIS-price-list-Islamist-group-sets-prices-Yazidi-Christian-women-girls-nine-fetching-highest-price.html#ixzz3I7m7hgO7

  11. Great news, the government is sending commissioners into Tower Hamlets and most of Lutfer Rahman’s powers have been removed. This is in response to an audit, the results of which have been passed onto the police. Rahman’s days are numbered. When I get more information I will let you all know.

  12. I saw a reference on the previous wall to an abomination called the Fawcett Society.

    It reminds me of a flight to India years ago when some yank moron turned to his Sikh neighbour and bellowed, ‘Say Buddy, do you folk have mixing fawcets in your li’l ol’ Injun hotels?’

    The Sikh smiled politely and pretended not to understand English. Yank moron (a youthful JJB?) shrugged and opened his ‘Fodor’s Guide’ to quaint li’l ol’ Inja. Which promptly split down the spine.

  13. There is a rather annoying post, among many, at the Telegraph. It suggests that because the Poles are more likely to be working than British people (and this figure for British people certainly includes unemployed migrants and their children) we should somehow stop complaining about migrant numbers. I sent him this email…

    It is disappointing that your recent article on hard working Polish workers is not allowing any comments, as seems the case with most Telegraph articles.

    You miss the main objection which is not that Poles do not work, but that large numbers of any migrants put great pressure on services, housing and employment. It would seem from your article that if the British population was replaced by a Polish one you would think it a good thing!

    The issue is to do with unemployment among many groups, such as Somalis, Bangladeshis, Pakistanis and Roma. But it is also to do with the scale of migration from many groups who are undoubtedly willing to work. They should be commended for their industry and invited to apply themselves to the success of their own economies.

    If it is within your authority to allow comments then please do so. Otherwise your article is simply propaganda for mass immigration.

    Thank you

  14. Peter
    You can always do what everyone else does and criticise them mercilessly on the next available column, which is usually the latest piece of arrant nonsense from the soviet actress’s boy.

  15. Good to see you volunteering to go and pour more petrol on the flames started by the neo cons of New labour and continued by the coalition.
    However ‘responsibility to protect’ begins and ends at home, so you would be better off acquiring some home defence skills in order to prepare for the ghettoisation of your own leafy suburbs.
    Having seen such violence at first hand I have nothing but contempt for those who want others to fight their ideas for them.

  17. In the UK, there are any number of groups such as Liberty GB, Storm Front etc, they are like the People’s Front of Judea, the Judean People’s Front in the Life Of Brian. They may or may not know what they’re doing.

    None of the get publicity because the government and mainstream media don’t want them to. The government and media are falling over themselves to give publicity to Britain First. In the run-up to poppy day, the narrative is: this is what UKIP has unleashed. In the run-up to the General Election, the narrative is: this is what UKIP has unleashed. In the run-up to Rochester and any other by-elections, the narrative is: this is what UKIP has unleashed.

    The Telegraph is at it again today with this propaganda piece:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-one/11207973/The-loathsome-Britain-First-are-trying-to-hijack-the-poppy-dont-let-them.html

    The loathsome Britain First are trying to hijack the poppy – don’t let them

    Britain First, the neo-fascist organisation, are using the Remembrance poppy to push their racist agenda on social media

    Why don’t the Telegraph and other media run similar pieces on Liberty GB and Storm Front? Because Britain First is a security service concoction being used to undermine UKIP via guilt by association. It is manageable – that is why it is being given publicity. And it is manageable because it is run out of the Home Office.

    The Telegraph says: “You may not have heard of the pound-shop fascists of Britain First.” Well, no. First mention I ever heard of this group was in the Telegraph. Why do they get special mention over all the other groups. Why were only 35 of these Britain First people headcounted at Rochester? That’s nothing. That is a paid up group of people. Who is paying them. And why? And why all this publicity that other groups don’t get? And why are such stories being run alongside a ‘this is what UKIP represents’ narrative.

    Isn’t that their real purpose? As a front organisation to deal with UKIP via bad publicity and then abandoned at will by the Home Office once their hatchet PR job has been done. Isn’t that what Grant Shapps meant when he told Mark Reckless: ‘We’re coming to get you.’

  18. Talking of Balls
    The main point under the screaming provocative headline in the Daily Telgraph is hidden but should be the banner headline

    The major academic study also found, however, that recent immigration from Europe – driven by the surge in arrivals from eastern European – gave the economy a £4.4 billion boost over the same period.
    Put that in your Faragian pipe

  19. A Faragian pipe is a somewhat better prospect than the Tokarev held behind the back of Mucus and his masquerading fellow travellers in the lying Labour party.

    But yet again his provocative propaganda cherry picks the news. Whilst immigration from Eastern Europe from 1995 to 2011 might have provided a £4.4 billion boost to the economy, immigration from elsewhere is alleged by the same report to have cost the public purse £I17.9 billion. So the immigration deficit created a net drain of -£113.5 billion. Did that deficit “regenerate is from our torpor”?

    “(the report) found that migrants from outside the European Economic Area (EEA) made a negative contribution to the public purse of £117.9 billion because they consumed more in public expenditure – including NHS costs, welfare hand-outs and education – than they contributed in taxes.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/11209234/Immigration-from-outside-Europe-cost-120-billion.html

    In the interests of good taste I’ll refrain from advising Mucus where he should put that piece of corrective information.

  20. And more corrective fare for Mucus to insert accordingly:-

    “The authors emphasised their findings on the contribution of European migrants and gave less prominence to the findings on the costs of non-EEA immigration.”

    “Sir Andrew Green, chairman of MigrationWatch, said the report confirmed the huge cost of immigration. “As for recent European migrants, even on the authors’ own figures – which we dispute – their contribution to the Exchequer amounts to less than £1 a week per head of population,” he said.”

    “David Green, director of Civitas, said the new report suffered from a “shallow focus” which “misses out some vital costs”.

    *

    “Between 1995 and 2011 the foreign-born population in the UK doubled from 3.5 million to about 7 million. The non-EEA population grew from 2.8 million to 4.6 million during the period. Of those, in 2011, just over two million were not working, either because they were unemployed or for other reasons such as retirement or childcare.”

  21. I know AWK will not lower herself to reply but this is one of the unforeseen consequences of the Cameron Sarkozy actions in Libya
    They should have taken the Blair approach

  22. Mucus lies, ignores the corrective and deftly sidesteps to spout another piece of sloganised superficial propaganda on behalf of the wretched Labour party.

    Why on earth his nonsense is tolerated here is baffling. Deny him the oxygen and let him stew in frustration that he cannot intervene. He is an agent provocateur, a heckler, a propagandist, and there is no merit or credibility in his ridiculous interventions. Give the marxists an inch and they’ll take one hundred miles.

    If you want to defeat the cultural revolution start with Mucus. Proscribe him.

  23. Col. Mustard 08.13 entirely agree with you about the pathetic troll, not only has it competely infested the speccie, but has now taken up residence here. As you say there can be no discourse with this entity; its presence is to bait people, upset, hurt and be an annoyance, there is no intelligence in anything it posts, no sign of real engagement on any issue. But I am not sure it acts on behalf of labour or any kind of body on the left – it may posing as a leftie-marxist as part of its provoking. Who knows it may be trolling elsewhere on leftie blogs as someone to the right. The only way to get rid of it is to starve it.

  26. The correct course might now be a Nicholas flounce
    Bullies usually hold sway
    There is honourable tradition from Mussolini though Franco to Pinochet
    *
    I guess the question is whether you wish a pluralist site or to see it wither

  27. Colonel,
    Well said and I think the overwhelming opinion on the wall is with you. Deport the bugger to Tower Hamlets where he can drown in the diversity he so cherishes.

  28. Abe Miller @ 11:16

    As always, an excellent riposte by Moloney, Abe, but he ‘s missing something. The Jones’s rant encompasses the thinking of the progressives beautifully. To try and argue, as Maloney does, that nations are but families, that they are analogous to the blood bonded units, the bricks of a stable, lasting, powerful nation states cannot get him very far. The left-leaning fruitcakes have done everything to dismantle the traditional family, the dismantling of the state follows the same pattern, as does the gutting, re-shaping, or even a full eradication of many old institutions that have been the bridge with the past and hence must be got rid offf.

    Let’s just wait and see how far Ukip gets in teaching the Joneses a lesson. If not next year, in the election after.

  29. The bully, Mucus, is you. Neither the Speccie nor this site are free from your continuous interventions, provocations and heckling. There are threads at the Speccie where you have tagged almost every comment with your limited and tedious repertoire of leftist tripe and there is no doubt that you would do that here if the format facilitated it. Your habit of tagging every top comment there has been well noted, the equivalent of pushing to the front of a queue, the act of a bully.

    And as SheilaT astutely observes, you do not engage, but just use any response as a vehicle to further propagandise, label or smear anyone who chooses to disagree with your mantra. Spouting dreary marxist slogans is not engagement. It is the forum equivalent of holding a placard and shouting.

    Pluralism? You don’t know the meaning of the word. If you had the power you know that you would “proscribe” a dozen or more commentators there. You have told us so many times.

    Bully? Yes you are. The most insufferable bully it has ever been my misfortune to encounter.

    Far from withering without you this site would be fumigated of blight.

    Begone foul thing.

  30. Anne Wotana Kaye 1 @ 12:36

    A peep into the future, Anne:

    The two gay rapists are found guilty, get sentenced, the judge recommends they be deported. A ‘uman rites’ lawyer gets on the act, argues they will be in danger back in Libya – the ROP doesn’t look kindly on gays including gay rapists – wins the caee, the raping thugs are allowed to stay.

  31. Andy Car Park @ 12:18

    Is one still allowed to poke fun of one’s wife mother, Andy?

    It’ a good one, short, funny, worth remembering and not unalike this one: I haven’t spoken to my wife for weeks. I don’t dare interrupt her.

  32. Frank P @ 13:08

    Baron has seen only one of our ROP friend pontificating about the the conflict, in which young Muslim boys are involved, Frank, the words were fine, he even avoided saying the IS thugs were not proper followers of Allah, but there was one thing missing. No poppy.

  33. AWK1 – 12:34

    It’s more than two! It involves hundreds! And shame? They have a funny way of showing it.

    Sex shame of Libyan soldiers invited to train in UK: Cadets accused of sex attacks. Hundreds sent home. Dozens set to claim asylum
    * 300 Libyan soldiers based in thee UK are to be sent home a month early
    * Group were stationed at Bassingbourn Barracks – 14 miles from Cambridge
    * Two men are charged with raping a male victim in a park after night out
    * Two men admitted sex attack on woman a week ago but one man denies it
    * It is understood two of the soldiers have since claimed asylum in the UK
    * Whole programme training 2,000 soldiers is on hold and may be axed
    “Hundreds of Libyans invited to the UK for military training are being sent home amid claims of rape, drunkenness, fighting and theft.
    The cadets – hand-picked by the British Army – were supposed to be given leadership skills to help their war-torn country.
    Instead they have been allowed to run amok outside their Cambridgeshire barracks, terrifying their neighbours. British troops have been drafted in to restore order.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2820269/Government-ends-training-Libyan-soldiers-UK-five-face-court-today-charged-sex-attacks-men-women.html

  34. telemachus @ 18:08

    Boots on the ground again, telemachus? We’ve had alot of boots on the ground in both Iraq and Afghanistan, and we’ve fugged up.

    It’s not that you get boots on the ground, it’s what the boots do. In the past when this country called the shot, the boots on the ground were merciless if peace. stability, civil order were threatened, wouldn’t have pulled back from stringing a few culprits.

    Since we no longer have the guts to impose aggressively a regime based on our belief system, we would better keep the few boots we still have here.

  35. You may know better, think differently, but Baron’s for as wide a freedom of expression as one can get. Banning stuff is at the bottom of the barbarian’s basket of response tools. Often he starts reading a posting, dislikes it so much, he stops for fear of getting his systolic pressure up, moves along. In no way would he even consider banning the offending narrative.

    If we’re free to talk we should be free to talk nonsense, too. We should offend, but accept others can offend us. To tolerate views that resonate with ours comes easy, the hard part of any debate is in tolerating views that pain, but this and only this is the real test of tolerance.

  36. stephen maybery @ 18:15

    avid rejoicing prematurely, stephen, the lot we’re dealing with are resilient, patient and cannily sly.

  38. Baron
    November 5th, 2014 – 11:28
    Unfortunately what you have written is not amusing satire, but an exact interpretation of what will happen. This government and the preceding one should all be shot!

  39. RobertC
    November 5th, 2014 – 11:39
    The inmates are certainly controlling the asylum. It is truly heartbreaking, and nobody is doing a bloody thing to stop it.

  40. Sorry, Baron, for the most part I would agree with you but I make an exception of that particular creature. When the interventions represent a malevolent agenda rather than free expression they do not warrant tolerance. Give an inch and a mile is taken.

    To a considerable extent that is precisely why we are where we are in this country. Tolerance should not become the open gate that allows the intolerant to shove their way in and deprive us of it.

    There is nothing it writes that we do not already know and which is not shoved into our faces in a hundred other places. Removing the offence will not deprive it of expression. If a rude and ruddy fellow stands in the open verandah window and shouts at you in contempt as you are enjoying the Melton Breakfast and engaged in agreeable discourse with family and friends should he be tolerated?

    Fine principles are all well and good but not when they become the means by which the enemies of reason and freedom are able to dominate and prevail.

  41. Baron
    November 5th, 2014 – 11:47

    Our belief system should be imposed
    *
    These barbarians are crucifying and shooting Christians
    Just for being Christian

  42. I am more than happy to receive advisement about the presence of the troll here. But some big posters thought he should be allowed to post while others disagreed. What I don’t want is big posters with either view to cease posting one way or the other. If regular posters want to email me their views I am more than willing to act on advice.

  43. Peter,
    Well said. I do not think that any wallsters will desert on account of that pernicious individual, what we have here is to precious to sacrifice on account of a malign presence who subscribes with a preposterous Greek moniker and is too self self regarding to realise when he is not wanted, which of course he does. which makes him utterly contemptible.

  44. I am neutral

    May I just point out that the question was triggered by Colonel Mustard who you will remember destabilised the site by his actions in the first year

    telemachus does not and will not post derogatory posts in relation to well respected adherents of this site who have kept it going through thick and thin

    No, I do not have right wing views, but then nor do a number of columnists in the Telegraph

    To me plurality of debate is the spice of life

  47. Peter from Maidstone November 5th, 2014 – 15:31

    “I am more than happy to receive advisement about the presence of the troll here.”

    Let it be Peter, freedom of speech and all that, we do not have to read his/her posts.

  48. Apologies for the many errors in the postings, no excuse for them, not even the standard (but pretty feeble) standard plea of poor education ….

    A new Nationwide card has arrived today. The first sentence of its short content says exactly the following: ‘We are pleased to send your card ending 2207’.

    Hurrah, thought Baron, these people must know something the barbarian doesn’t, a whisper from Him, perhaps, being more careful spending the barbarian’s meagre savings is in order. Then his Alz doped brain engaged, the euphoria vanished. It was the long number of the card that ended 2207.

    Still, you must admit the sentence is poor English, it could have said ‘to send your card the number of which ends’ or even better ‘we’re sending you a new card the number of which ends 2207’. You may probably offer an even better wording.

    Baron possesses a book of judicial summing ups, it’s a pleasure to read not because of what the presentation of the law says, but because of the framing of it. It may be harsh to compare the language of learned judges of the past with that of a Nationwide employee of today very likely educated in a bog standard comp, but even so, come on, the letter must be going to thousands of Nationwide savers, spending some time formatting the content well would be worth it.

  52. telemachus @ 12:57

    Years ago, well before the PC culture got hold of the West, Baron attended a lecture on the Afghan Mujahedeens battling the Soviets. The man doing the talking was a retired, battle worn and very outspoken US colonel. The details of what the talk was all about the barbarian has forgotten, the only thing he remembers was the answer the officer gave to a question ‘what would you do to subdue the cave warriors?’ to which the colonel replied: ‘I would flatten the country, make a parking lot of it’.

    Barbarous? Yup, but one wouldn’t have to turn the whole of the Syrian/Iraqi territory controlled by the IS thugs into a parking lot, a chunk would do, and soon you’ll find the rest of the loonies would come to their senses. If not, one would enlarge the parking lot some more …

  53. That’s well said, Colonel, the “fine principles are all well and good, but not when they become the means by which the enemies of reason and freedom are able to dominate and prevail’ except that the Left hasn’t become dominant because of the fine principles, but because the Right has largely adopted the Left’s shibboleths, didn’t oppose them, focused too much on things economic, left the social domain to the fruitcakes to dominate.

    Things are changing however. The Republican win over to the west, the rising popularity of Ukip here, the growing anti-EU forces in Europe do suggest that given time common sense can prevail, and will.

  54. RobertC @ 17:06

    It goes beyond the unbelievable, Robert, Baron has come across similar stories. Like you, he cannot click on the videos, it would probably make him grab a gun, build a barricade, go mad.

    Have you or has anyone read Brand’s Revolution? Is anyone going to?

  55. The flagship mid-day news programme on BBC4 today, the one o’clock news: The Republican win made it as number six item. Had it been the Democrats beating the GOP the whole of the hour would have been devoted to it.

    Fugging BBC tossers.

  56. As I write this I am listening to Don Giovanni. Sublime. With the divine Wolfgang in my ears I can forgive the World all its transgressions. Don’t worry folks, once the Don is dragged down to Hell I’ll be back to my normal self.

  58. Frank P
    November 5th, 2014 – 16:26
    Just blow harder and discard the tissue (of delusions).
    To Have and Have Not 🙂

  59. When New Labour were in office John Prescott’s attempts to split England in to regions (All very EU) fell flat when the North east declined.

    Further attempts by the Europhiles to bring in town and city elected mayors all over the place apart from the odd case (Doncaster) were politely declined.

    But now they are back with a vengeance, the BBC is full of ideas of more power to the English regions, there is a debate in York tonight on bringing power to Yorkshire by way of a regional assembly, hinting of devolved power all over areas or regions of England.

    This must not be allowed to happen, it is only being suggested because England is fed up with both the Barnet formula (he died this week) and the West Lothian question.

    In Westminster Scott’s and Welsh MP’s should have no vote and no say on matters concerning only England, the Scott’s and the Welsh are nations and have national assemblies, England is a nation and must not be reduced into tiny parcels with silly local assemblies.

  60. There is massive reporting all around of the claim that between 2004 and 2011 migration from eastern Europe has been beneficial to the tune of £5 billion.

    Yet our annual net contribution to the EU budget (ie the non-returnable membership fee ) is £8billion.That is equal to a poll-tax of £2.40p per week on every man,woman and child. It equals £5 to £6 per week on the income-tax,depending how many tax-payers there are.

  61. One of the most egregious lies peddled on the question of immigration is that we need these people. We do not. There are hundreds of thousands of Brits sitting on their arses to idle to work and being subsidised by the hard working taxpayers. There has to come a time when these wasters are told to find gainful employment or starve. The same goes for single mothers who think dropping a litter of bastards is an acceptable career option. Mozart is over and I am back in business.

  64. There are a thousand parodies of `The Hitler Rant`from the German docu-drama The Downfall.One of the funniest has Hitler being told the bus trips to God’s own county are fully booked and they will have to go to a neighbouring county instead.(Much bad language;ie : “Why the **** would I want to go to Lancashire?”)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItcedKDZF0E

  65. I’ve been reading Alex Boot’s new book today. I am getting into it very quickly. It is easy to read but very rich. Let me encourage as many as feel inclined to purchase this book and study it carefully. Perhaps we could discuss it online together later.

  66. Doug Smith is on his deathbed and knows the end is near.
    His nurse, his wife, his daughter and 2 sons, are with him.
    He asks for 2 witnesses to be present and a camcorder be in place
    to record his last wishes, and when all is ready he begins to
    speak:
    My son, “Bernie, I want you to take the Mayfair houses.””
    My daughter “Sybil, you take the apartments over in the east end.””
    My son, “Jamie, I want you to take the offices over in the City Centre.”
    “Sarah, my dear wife, please take all the residential buildings on the
    banks of the river.”
    The nurse and witnesses are blown away as they did not realize
    his extensive holdings, and as Doug slips away, the
    nurse says, “Mrs. Smith, your husband must have been such a
    hard-working man to have accumulated all this property”.
    Sarah replies, “Property ? …. the asshole had a paper round

  67. an insect came in the bedroom window tonight then blew up.

    must have been a jihadi long-legs

  70. a group of music students go to Bonn to see Beethovens grave. they get there and see an old man crossing out notes on a score. thye ask the guide who he is. he says ‘its Beethoven, he is de-composing.

  71. re the migration report today. They has peston on the radio. He is a disgrace -so biased. didn’t question the assumptions in the report at all.

  72. A personal tragedy, as Hitler learns the 2015 Waddington Airshow will not take place.

    ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auZ62rS2eyQ

  73. RobertC 5th, – 19:42

    “Well, he is in Number Ten!”

    Or is it the Number Two?

  74. There are several choices of inflatable sex-doll available, with differing prices of course, but the peace loving variety are the most expensive, as they blow themselves up.

  76. PfM 20.50

    Alexander Boots prose is indeed rich and much influenced by Tolstoy

    He has gems which I think apply to bloggers, at least to this blogger

    “One would think that such beliefs could only be held by either a stupid or an evil man. However, as we know that the man who held them was far from stupid, and arguably not even evil, then we have to look for another explanation. And there is one: egotism as the main point of his character, and a gross metaphysical blunder as the starting point of his thinking.”

  77. Mid-term elections were held in the USA earlier this week..

    I have not been able to monitor Alex Jones’s report and comments on this event which seems to have escaped the attention of the Wall. That is because I am in Thailand.

    The Thai government has blocked access to the Alex Jones Show online. My guess is that the reason for this is that the Thai military government is of a mind with Baron in opposing ranting in all its forms.

    This has not, I am glad to say, impeded access of western liberals here to a full range of coffees from a mocha to a macchiato.

    Moreover, the decision of the Thai military to make a feature film dramatising the ability of buddhists and muslims to find community in diversity on the country’s southern border, where of course nothing is happening, is not felt to be inconsistent with its other decision to withhold distribution of the movie.

    Move along, please, nothing to see here.

    I think I’ll have another cappuccino.

  78. Christian Dustmann’s report given the treatment in the Mail today

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822825/Expert-migrant-report-man-said-just-13-000-come-Eastern-Europe.html

    Comments are not very flattering.
    I liked:-

    johninkermen, Lincoln, United Kingdom, 4 minutes ago

    How can an expert be so wrong and STILL be an expert

    Good hatchet job on Dustmann’s report in the Mail today

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2822825/Expert-migrant-report-man-said-just-13-000-come-Eastern-Europe.html

    Good comments too, like:-
    johninkermen, Lincoln, United Kingdom, 4 minutes ago

    ‘How can an expert be so wrong and STILL be an expert’

  80. You might want to re-think the wording of your attempted smear, Mucus.

    Probably too subtle for the block of hardwood that sits between your ears but the words “own” and “goal” spring to mind.

  81. Baron
    November 5th, 2014 -1735
    ‘I would flatten the country, make a parking lot of it’.

    Tempting
    But think of the retribution
    What better way to radicalise the folks in Sparkbrook

    But boots on the ground to flatten ISIS who are shooting and crucifying Muslims and Christians alike would ring a chord in Sparkbrook

  82. Colonel Mustard @08:17

    Comrade Cut’n Paster’s unwitting admission is particularly ironic considering that he/she omitted the final sentence of the paragraph which is, “This proved to be Tolstoy’s undoing; and this is his unwitting lesson to us all.”
    And so it came to pass….

    Full article if anyone is interested:

    “Egotism & Modernity in Leo Tolstoy”
    A talk held on 23 September 2009 at the Thomas More Institute, part of the 2009/2010 Ethics in Public Life series. It marks the British launch of Alexander Boot’s book, God and Man According to Tolstoy (Palgrave Macmillan, 2009).

    http://alexanderboot.com/node/8

  83. stephen maybery
    November 5th, 2014 – 18:15

    Gosh. You sound just like that chap that I met at a Spectator party, in between explaining world peace to Daniel Korski and goosing Isabel Hardman.

    This fine morning, I am relaxing to a little Stockhausen while one of the dozen or so topless Filipino maids fans me with an ostrich feather. For breakfast, I ate a pea.

    The one thing that slightly mars my idyll is the hoard of gurning proles pressed hard against the window, yearning to see how the better half live.

  85. Abject apologies to the Thai military for my mistakeor possibly to that country’s Ambassador in London if he is a Wallster who may have had pity on me after reading my post at 06:25 and ordered the block lifted for a day, but today I can open the 5th November edition of the Alex Jones Show where he gives his response to the greatest electoral defeat of the United States Democrat Party since 1920 as follows:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhdFLRJIQVU

    Thailand by the way, especially where it is most Thai (but plus coffee, German and English breakfasts and generous access online) is my favourite country in Asia with especial emphasis on its provincial cities – though I have yet to visit the Laotian capital, Luang Prabang, said to be largely untouched by the influence of dread wesstern modernism, (or North Korea). As with most countries of course, I would support the razing here of all edifices built after, say, 1955 and the introduction of regulations requiring their substitution with constructions designed using traditional grammar and materials and coordinated with planning decisions sensitive to location – another hopeless cause.

  86. Noa November 5th, 2014 – 21:56

    “Even I almost twitched a lower lip at that scurrilous attack on God’s own county of Lancashire, no dubbed by some Geoff Boycott wannabe bore from the wrong side of the Pennines”

    Everyone here knows that the only county that is ‘god’s own’ is Yorkshire.

    Mind Lancashire does have nice meat pies and where would we be without Eccles Cakes?

  88. In these days of doom and gloom (apart from the US, sort of) it is good to have a happy tale:

    Police probe complaint about Bonfire Night effigy of Alex Salmond
    The portrayal of Scotland’s First Minister Alex Salmond as an effigy at a bonfire in southern England sparks angry backlash from supporters of Scottish independence
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/11212836/Police-probe-complaint-about-Bonfire-Night-effigy-of-Alex-Salmond.html

    “However, this year’s choice of Mr Salmond prompted an angry backlash from supporters of Scottish independence on Twitter and resulted in one complaint being lodged.”

    Only one!

  89. Is there a criminal offence of police wasting taxpayers money and their own time? There ought to be.

  90. RobertC @12:11

    The CyberNats and the SNP’s thuggish YesStapo are still very bitter about the referendum result. However, it’s probably the first time one of Alex’s faces has lit up since September 19th.

  92. Great news about Alex Salmond being burnt in effigy, this is in the British tradition, but the police investigating? it was not so long ago that the complainant would have been told to bugger off and grow up. Now, down to more serious matters, for next years bonfire I nominate Russell Brand, and not an effigy.

  94. Surprise! Miliband does not represent the lower middle class nor the Essex voters. Just think Bolshie Poles and Eastern Europeans and you have his core supporters.

  95. The mid-term election results in the USA are not without implications for the political landscape in the UK. I would recommend watching at least the first 15 minutes of Alex Jones cited above.

  96. Anne,
    Quite right. Miliband represents the Hampstead Marxists, he lives in a million pound house which he took care to shelter from death duties and has an absolute contempt for the lower orders whom he considers totally unfit to have any say in the affairs of the Nation. I rather think the Nation is lining up a considerable shock for he and his kind.

  98. “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
    C.S.Lewis

  102. Anne (yesterday 18:46)

    Well – that’s not quite the Bogie I was thinking of; but I can’t deny the latent influence of the imperative that started his wife’s career in earnest. 🙂

  103. Why do we have a national debt of £1.5 trillion and below the line debt liabilities of £7.2 Trillion?

    What are we doing about?

    Why will neither we, or our children, ever get out of it?

    Why is the fatally flawed concept of mass immigration a central tenet of government economic policy?

    If we can’t achieve third world status by our own endeavours, let’s import the third world to help us.

    http://www.iea.org.uk/sites/default/files/publications/files/Briefing_Defusing%20the%20time%20bomb_web.pdf

  104. The news hasn’t reached the BBC, yet:

    Brussels burns as more than 100,000 protesters clash with police during march against EU austerity measures
    * Fighting broke out after the end of largely peaceful trade union march
    * New right-wing government was elected in Belgium last month
    * It wants to raise retirement age, cancel wage rises and cut welfare benefits

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2824057/Brussels-burns-100-000-protesters-clash-police-march-against-EU-austerity-measures.html

  105. This is the news from Brussels, according to the BBC:

    Change comes to Brussels with Jean-Claude Juncker
    “It is only day four of the new European Commission and Brussels crackles with expectation. The Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker is blunt, abrasive and unafraid of a fight.

    Compared with his predecessor he is unplugged. And the European press is revelling in the air of unpredictability.

    He has already scrapped with two prime ministers, Matteo Renzi and David Cameron.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-29939632

    A complete disconnect! And Juncker hasn’t looked out of the window either.

  107. I was fortunate to have lunch with Mr Boot today, and enjoyed discussing his new book with him. Let me encourage you all to give his book a good read.

    He is speaking at the Freedom Association meeting later this month in London and I know he would welcome the opportunity to meet as many b of you as could make it.

  108. London didn’t want to miss out, either:

    Well-spoken woman ‘attacked in the street for having the wrong accent’ by masked Guy Fawkes protesters during Bonfire Night demonstrations
    * Comedy agent assaulted ‘because she spoke the wrong way’
    * Victim describes ‘scary’ attack, which ended when police stepped in
    * Assault took place during anti-capitalist demo attended by Russell Brand
    * Officers drew batons as missiles, road signs and fireworks were launched
    * Crowd kicked over railings while chanting ‘one solution, revolution’
    * Anti-capitalist group Anonymous wanted to create blockade in the capital
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2823857/Well-spoken-woman-attacked-street-demonstrator-London.html

  110. “Dr. Wos seemed thrown off by a question about how the patient got to North Carolina from Newark. When she responded that it was a commercial bus, an unnamed official abruptly called the press conference to a close.

    Before being interrupted, Dr. Wos said, “This person did not have symptoms on bus. This person has not been diagnosed with any specific condition yet.”

    **CORRECTION: This piece originally and inadvertently suggested that The Associated Press and other news organizations were in agreement “not to report on suspected cases of Ebola in the United States until a positive viral RNA test is completed.” I regret this misinterpretation. In fact, AP is in no agreement with other outlets regarding news coverage. AP’s own position is that it will still report some suspected cases of Ebola if they cause enough disruption, even if there’s no confirmation the person has Ebola.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkroll/2014/11/02/potential-ebola-patient-being-tested-at-duke-results-monday-morning/2/

  113. Has Chuka ever had a real job, and does he play golf? [Barry spends more time on the golf course than Tiger Woods et al.]

    I’m not surprised that Chuka doesn’t want to be compared to Barry. He’s probably watched Monty Python’s “Life of Brian” (Bwian) and has seen what can happen. In recent weeks it has been interesting to watch how many of Barry’s Democrat Party candidates have disowned him. Just watch, the hypocritical press will be next to find their gonads and attempt to do a “reverse ferret.” However, as far as I am aware, it was the perspicacious Verity who, in 2007/08, was the very first to call Barry out as a wrong ‘un.

  114. so the finnish gov think £1.7 billion is a molehill. WWell they can pay it then.

    What happened to politicians in foreign countries not interfereing in another coumntries politics?

  115. Alexsandr – 09:43 ‘£1.7 billion molehill?’

    Do they have molehills in Finland?

    I know we do have them on the CHW.

    How is it going, Baron?

  116. Peter,
    You mentioned a talk by Alex Boot later this month. Is this at the Counting House on the 12th.? If so I will be there, I thoroughly enjoyed his last outing.

  118. “What happened to politicians in foreign countries not interfereing in another countries politics?”

    It’s fine when the target is England or the English but if the English reciprocate then it becomes xenophobia and is one of the “crimes” listed on the EAW.

    For prime examples of the former refer to the German green eco-engineer(s) who troll at the other place:-

    “goatmince” (who likes to pretend he is omnipotent)
    “dalai guevara”
    “you_kid”
    “dado_trunking” (who likes to pretend he is Scottish)

  119. I am appalled that George and Dave are wavering on the surcharge.
    Looks like they will settle for installments.

    If they do the Rochester Tory candidate will lose her deposit, nice legs or not.

  120. Colonel Mustard@November 7th, 2014 – 11:08

    Ms Tighe calles one of them ‘dildo trunking’. Tee Hee

  121. huktra, I don’t think they are wavering. I don’t think they ever had any other thought than paying it all. Indeed the possibility of a postponement, being presented as some sort of victory, seems entirely the reason for the whole incident.

  122. EC 8.33

    Having completed his studies in 2002, he began work as a solicitor at Herbert Smith in the City of London. In 2006 he joined Rochman Landau specialising in employment law
    *
    He knows a thing or two from experience of unscrupulous employers throwing poor unfortunates and their families onto the street

  125. It appears (via BBC World Service) the other £850,000,000 to the EU will be subtracted from the UKs rebate.So we are still £1,700,000,000 worse off.

  127. Quote from Farage:”Osbourne trying to spin his way out of disaster.UK still paying full £1.7bn,his credibility is about to nose dive.”

    To clear it up UK will pay the EU £850,000,000;and a further £850,000,000 of “our money” (as Mrs Thatcher called it) will be taken off our rebate.

  132. “According to the EU Commission:-

    “As we all know the UK receives a rebate on their contribution, but in years when the UK has to pay additional because of GNI corrections, normally this payment would be on 31 December and it would be in the full amount. With the proposal [under discussion]…in exceptional years this period of time would be stretched into the next year, and when this happens, and it would be in these exceptional circumstances, then the payment and the rebate on the payment could converge. In a normal year, they would not. In a normal year, you have a payment on 31 December and then next year, in the spring, we have the calculation of the rebate on this payment.”

  134. Andy Car Park @15:35

    A very tasteful if slightly too chillaxing choice of music and for his ordeal. As a dietry and visual counterpoint might I suggest the addition of a funnel through which he is force fed Berliner Currywurst à la the ‘Poodle Pie’ fed to Meredith Merridew(Robert Moreley)

  135. Frank P @ 18:44

    Whatever happens, Ed must remain in the post if the non-Labour duo are to have a chance of achieving a majority next year.

  136. RobertC @ 10:11

    So as not to upset ratty (if he’s still around), Baron has kept quiet about his ‘war on moles’ (do notice the easy embrace by the barbarian of the progressives’ phraseology, Robert). The smelly liquid did nothing to deter the rodents, the barbarian was forced to purchase a couple of traps, around four quid each, from an outfit call the Primrose, and voila, a couple of the black fur diggers have been caught, no longer tunnel, destroy the lawn. It was sad to see them dead though.

  139. EC @ 23:58

    A demand we should accede to happily, EC, even more so if his followers were to join him. And never come back. The lot of them.

  141. Frank 17:03

    If Baron had to decide, no other option available, whether to live in a country described by Ann Barnhardt as one “run by executive fiat, which is carried out by an ideologically purged and compliant bureaucracy, judiciary, military, financial industry and with a fully compliant media/propaganda arm”, or one run by the mob as the three pictures down below depict, he would, very very reluctantly, opt for the former.

    This may be because of his age and little first hand experience of what a lawless hord is capable of, or because he has an unshaken belief in sorting things out by every tool available except one – naked violence.

    The piece, however, is not only brilliantly articulated, Frank, but of a content which the barbarian totally endorses. Her blog has been added to Baron’s list of ‘must read’.

  142. Radford NG @ 15:53

    Not that Baron in any way favours the boy, Radford, but he would rather have the next year’s election won by the Tories (not with an overall majority, hence the removal of the boy) with the balance of power held by Ukip than the other lot.

    If that were to happen, the handling of the surcharge by Geoffrey in no 11 has been spectacularly disastrous. We will pay the £1.7bn, the delay’s neither here not there. What he should have done is accept the payment (after all we were signatories to the formula that produced the sum), but he should have said we would pay only if the EU accounts were independently audited to be sure the money’s spent wisely. This not unreasonable demand would have done alot good not only for the Tories, but for the EUSSR as a whole. It’s likely the audit would have discovered a massive waste of funds, would have led to identifying areas of huge savings thus cutting the bill not only of the UK, but hose of other member states that may have been more willing to listen to our desire to renegotiate the whole arrangements.

    It’s amazing that nobody, not the politicians, the MSM, not even Nigel, the eurosceptics have raised the issue of auditing. They should shout about it daily for this could be the key to persuading other member states to be more sympathetic to a fresh overhaul of the non-democratic outfit.

  143. telemachus @ 13:36

    The sentence in your posting: “He knows a thing or two from experience of unscrupulous employers throwing poor unfortunates and their families onto the street.” was cut and pasted from Marx or one of Dickens’s novels?

  145. Baron @ 00:29

    “…whether to live in a country described by Ann Barnhardt as one “run by executive fiat, which is carried out by an ideologically purged and compliant bureaucracy, judiciary, military, financial industry and with a fully compliant media/propaganda arm” ”

    So you don’t like the European Union, huh?

  146. Baron 1.04
    That was pure visceral and related to my good friend, new Labour Superstar Chuka
    *
    Through my working life from time to time I have witnessed employers using every trick in the book to deprive workers of their livelihood for often no greater crime than pointing out health and safety issues
    Interesting that you mention Dickens
    Mentality has not moved on much from that of mill owners chaining children to looms and sending tinies up chimneys
    Profit is king and sod the workers

  147. Throughout my working life I have seen lefties, socialists and communists lie, bully and murder their way to power on the basis that they have a monopoly on morality and caring.

    When the opposite is invariably true. And much misery ensues.

    The most extreme proponents of socialism are always excused and justified by the others, blind to their own faults, incapable of making the distinction between intentions and consequences. Thus Mucus reveres Stalin.

    I have come to the sad conclusion that those collective people, “the left”, all have a screw loose to greater or lesser degrees. All are mentally unhinged and self-deluded. Unfortunately that mentality has not moved on and still plagues and imposes on our society.

    Mucus provides one of the best demonstrations of that, to the point of parody.

    And endowed with a hugely arrogant ego, a brass neck, a hardwood brain and oceans of hubris which far outweigh any capacity for veracity, he is totally, absolutely, bereft of self-awareness or the humility it ought to deliver.

    To the extent that he blithely accuses others of those faults he incessantly displays himself. Despite his sanctimonious public pretensions to being Christian Matthew 7.5 is lost on him.

  148. telemachus @ 06:12

    Excesses, mistakes, acts of personal vengeance happen, telemachus, if you think in your nirvana society people won’t lose their jobs if and when the demand for whatever it is they’re putting together vanishes and they are unwilling to retrain, or are too old to be retrained, you must be genuinely naive. An eye opening trip to either Cuba or better still North Korea would be in order.

    Nobody denies capitalism with all its boils and warts is an awful system, but compared to other societal arrangements the mankind has tried it wins hands down. Profit is and should be the king …. (Baron has to dash off, soory, the boss’s getting furious. will come back to the subject)

  150. Michael Roberts (10:31)

    A tour de force indeed, even for the consistently brilliant Pat. Moreover, on his web page he links to this:

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/11/04/General-Medical-Council-Investigates-Allegations-Of-Islamophobia

    which is paradoxically one of the most blood-chilling/curdling/boiling reports I have so far seen about the depths of infiltration of Muslim/leftistist extremism into the NHS.

    As one whose blood is costing the NHS thousands per annum already, this haematological provocation is therefore also a very personal matter for me as well as a political one.

    Why has there been no public outcry from the non-Muslim members of the profession? Maybe there has, but has been suppressed by the MSM?

    The GMC should expel the complainant from the profession forthwith for defamation of a fellow doctor.

  152. True dictatorship is found within the ethos of the so-called iberals

    If this bakery was not in Northern Ireland, I would urge all CHWallers to order a cake!

    A decision to take a bakery to court in a row over a pro-gay marriage cake slogan has been described as “bonkers” by Northern Ireland’s first minister.

    Peter Robinson criticised the Equality Commission’s decision to fund legal action against Ashers Baking Company.

    The County Antrim bakery firm refused a customer’s request for a cake with a slogan supporting same-sex marriage.

    Mr Robinson said the commission needed to “wind their necks in” at a time when public funds were under pressure.

    The cake was ordered from Asher’s Belfast shop in May, by a gay rights activist who wanted it to feature the logo of a campaign group called ‘Queerspace’.

  154. Frank P@November 8th, 2014 – 11:42

    GMC are, and have been for a long while, a useless organisation.

  155. Baron
    Sorry you could not finish
    The actual,point is that in a Socialist society reorganisations occur and jobs become surplus to requirements
    However those societies take a responsible view of their duties of redeployment

  156. AWK
    The law is the law
    The Northern Ireland Minister Murrison, a right winger said this
    *
    “However, I think if you’re opening your premises for business you have to comply with the discrimination legislation.
    “So, whilst I can understand the disquietude of the small business concerned, since they are I understand people of deep religious conviction, I have to say that in terms of running their business they have to comply with the law and the law, I think rightly, prevents discrimination against gay people.”

  157. telemachus@November 8th, 2014 – 12:38

    Then its a crap law. Why should anyone be forced to do business with anyone else?
    The gay bloke could have gone elsewhere so where is his loss?

  158. The application of the law in this case has not prevented discrimination against the Christians and the state is now busy persecuting them. Despite the fatuous promises of the idiot politicians to protect a right of conscience they have failed miserably to incorporate that protection and we now have another example of the so-called rights of a minority trampling on the rights of others. In this case a deliberately contrived and fabricated entrapment. Forcing others to write, say or do things that they do not believe in is simply fascism. If the law enforces it then the law is unjust and oppressive and we live under TYRANNY.

    As observed elsewhere:-

    “I’m a gay man and also not religious but I completely agree with you! It’s their business, they should have the right to say no to baking something because the message being put on the cake is contrary to their beliefs without the Government breathing down their neck.”

  159. “An elderly cancer patient has died just hours after she was granted her final wish to be reunited with her favourite horse as she laid in her hospital bed.’
    The sheer “humanity’ of the above story brought tears to my rheumy old eyes. The article can be found in all the papers and is truly a fine one. In a world where cannibalism, murder in the classroom and all evil thrives, horses show compassion and love for their long-term owner and friend. Good too, to see a hospital or hospice that forgets ‘ealth and safety and allows this dying woman’s pets to be at her bedside.

  161. “… The gay bloke could have gone elsewhere so where was his loss?”

    Well … then the useful idiot would have lost the opportunity to metaphorically thrust his dirty dick down the throats of the sexually undeviant – and hysterically make an issue of it according to the dictates of his mentor and counter-cultural warrior Anthony Gramsci. Never lose sight of the Long March and predatory sodomy marching in step and farting its tune through slack buttocks.

  163. telemachus – 06:12 “… and sod the workers’

    At least you have the satisfaction that that part isn’t illegal any more.

  164. RobertC
    Not everywhere

    A dozen states still have anti-sodomy laws on the books 10 years after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled they are unconstitutional.

    One such state is Louisiana, where gay rights groups contend police have used anti-sodomy laws to target gay men. But state lawmakers sided with religious and conservative groups in refusing to repeal the law.

    Of 14 states that had anti-sodomy laws, only Montana and Virginia have repealed theirs since a Supreme Court ruling

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/04/21/12-states-ban-sodomy-a-decade-after-court-ruling/7981025/

  165. The cake shop should have made the cake, suitably decorated but with a large prune content to teach them what their arses are really for.

  166. … And speaking of buggery: looks like Red Ed has has been well ‘n’ truly buggered by the Sunday papers and the latest polls. Sadly Alan Johnson is poised to pounce and rescue Labour from electoral disaster. Let’s hope the Milibrat obtusely clings hold of his position as HM LOTO and takes his party down with him.

  168. Clear Memories
    November 8th, 2014 – 22:07
    Great minds (or dirty ones) think alike. I thought the cake should have been made with chocolate pastry and chocolate icing. The said chocolate being Ex-Lax!

  169. I ask again, where is Cameron?

    Too busy spinning the slightly delayed, fully paid Euro 2.1 billion payment demanded by the ex Luxembourg prime minister (of 19 years), while Luxembourg is under the kosh:

    Luxembourg and Juncker under pressure over tax deals
    Politicians in France, Germany and Netherlands protest at effect of laws passed by EC chief when the country’s prime minister

    “French, German and Dutch finance ministers have rounded on Luxembourg for allowing multinational companies to create complicated structures to avoid billions of dollars of tax.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/nov/06/luxembourg-jean-claude-juncker-pressure-tax-deals

    Even Margaret Hodge, chair of the Commons public accounts committee, gets noticed, but our PM, who will be negotiating a new deal for us, nowhere to be seen! She said:
    “[Juncker has] just taken over the European commission, [yet] he’s presided over the biggest exploitation of European nations in his own little country for decades.”

    We also have others from Britain, Australia, but no Cameron:
    “Ronen Palan, professor of international relations at City University, London, a specialist on tax havens, said: “Luxembourg is extremely secretive. I can’t underline [enough] how aggressive they are in denying that they are a tax haven. Now we have evidence. For the first time we have real evidence as opposed to supposition, as opposed to suspicions and so forth.”

    The revelations have sparked political outrage across the world. The Australian tax office said it had launched an investigation into whether multinational firms operating in Australia were avoiding tax by using deals arranged through Luxembourg. ICIJ documents show that Ikea’s Australian arm has paid hardly any tax on an estimated $1bn profit earned since 2003, according to the Australian Financial Review’s report on the leaked documents.”

  171. For today, it would be interesting to see what other posters families connections to our various conflicts have been and who are in their thoughts.

    For ours they are (inter alia)

    Not Forgotten.

    Tommy Lewis – HMS Hood 24/5/41
    Stan – a Comp 3rd Recce Regt – Europe
    Herby – DLI – Middle East

    And Paddy KIA 17/11/44 Sherwood Foresters.

  172. Congratulations to all those who today ensured that the remembrance service and parade at the Cenotaph – and at all the other ceremonies throughout the nation and commonwealth; also on the front lines of current conflicts, were all completed without incident in the face of cowardly threats of those who would espouse the barbarous tenets of the ‘religion of peace’. The ring of steel held fast! Our octogenarian monarch and her nonagenarian consort were magnificent, as ever. The survivors and the famililies of those who fell made this one of the most impressive and moving occasions I can remember. The BBC coverage under the baton of David Dimbleby was faultless, proving that they and he can be fit for purpose when they abandon the leftist ideology and fulfill the responsibilities and duties for which they were inaugurated.

  173. Even the fact that most of the politicians on parade are not deserving of the sacrifices made by those remembered, did not detract from the solemnity of the occasion.

  174. Frank P @ 14:27

    It was indeed a solemn ceremony, Frank, quite unlike the shouting and arms waving of the crowds celebrating the 25th anniversary of the Berlin Wall falling. Only the British can do and do do it the way that makes one proud of the human race – low key, thoughtful, dignified. Doesn’t it also suggest the ‘healthy core of Englishness’ hasn’t yet faded away, and hopefully one day may defeat the evil forces of the uncalled-for progressiveness?

    If only the Queen could be with us forever.

  175. telemachus @ 16:50

    Are you trying to tell us, telemachus, that those in charge in some states of the Republic haven’t yet lost common sense? That must be a first for you.

  176. Anne Wotana Kaye 1 @ 13:49

    Baron’s boss has been very much touched by the same story, Anne, cut the whole piece from a mag, filed it in her diary, would talk about it for hours.

    What is it that makes some of us to forge such affinity with the animal world. Could it be, (the infamous Adolf’s credited with saying it) that the more one observes the human race the more one loves animals?

  177. Frank P @ 14:33

    Frank, oh, Frank, where does this nuclear ammo of words come from? How does Baron stop chuckling, ha?

  178. telemachus @ 12:38

    The barbarian will not finish the argument, telemachus, he’s got carpeted for lecturing, and the boss’s right, he does that, so from now on, no more lecturing just straight hits (if he can manage it).

  179. No liberal I
    Consult the Holy Book(s)

    The book of Leviticus, which was given directly by God, contain his instructions for all mankind:
    13 If a man has sexual relations with another man, they have done a disgusting thing, and both shall be put to death. (Leviticus 20:13)

    22 No man is to have sexual relations with another man; God hates that. (Leviticus 18:22)

    “A person who commits sodomy with a boy will acquire such a Janabat (impurity) that even all the water of this world cannot remove it. Allah will be wrathful at him and curse him. (That is He will take away His Mercy from him and will award Hell for him.) What a dreadful place it is! Then the Heavens shudder of it. And the person who allows another to mount him from behind to commit sodomy, then Allah puts him on the fringe of Hell (in extreme heat) and keeps him there till He completes the reckoning of all the people. Then He orders him to be put into Hell. One by one he is made to suffer all the punishments of Hell till he reaches the lowest stage. Then he never comes out from there.”

  180. RobertC @ 00:00

    Juncker is the right guy to be in charge of the EUSSR then, Robert. Didn’t he also say that when a politician needs to lie he should lie (or words to that effect)?

  182. Baron,
    Thanks for the link, it is great to read in print what we in Tower Hamlets have known about for years. The day after Rahman was first elected he took a drive through the borough accompanied by three police cars, shame on the force for pandering to the corrupt bastard. As for selling off council properties to cronies, I have direct experience of this, he tried to do the same with a building in which I had a direct interest, one which was covenanted to charity. Well, you take Maybery on at your peril, and I wiped the floor with the corrupt prick.

  184. “In the past two months, the Thai army has distributed 2600 Heckler&Koch hk 33 branded firearms to villagers in the predominantly non-Muslim areas …
    … The Thai government is to distribute military weapons to thousands of village defense volunteers in the troubled south following a string of insurgent [i.e.Muslim] attacks in the last four days.

    Banphot Poolpian, a spokesman for the Internal Security Operations Command – the military organisation in charge of national security – told the Bangkok Post on Tuesday that 2,700 rifles will be acquired by the army and distributed to defense volunteers under an interior ministry program…”. (November 4

    http://www.worldbulletin.net/world/147725/thailand-arms-non-muslim-villagers-in-patani-updated

    Serve and protect.

  185. Labour and their friends in the media just don’t get it and never will.

    It doesn’t matter who is leader, the hypocrisy, envy and downright malice has been seen through by enough of the British to send them to the dustbin of history. Their core vote, the white working class, have suffered from Labour’s determination to rub the right’s noses in multi-culturalism by flooding the UK with immigrants and, through their PC blindness, allowed the scourge of Islam to destroy huge swathes of a once-great nation. When they objected, they were labelled racists. When they organised, as in Barking & Dagenham, Labour gerrymandered so many aliens into the Borough, they were outnumbered and disregarded.

    Voters look around them (and white folk, as a whole, still numerically far outweigh aliens) and don’t like what they see – from the bigoted racist Abbot, through the hypocrite Lammy (and all the other champagne socialists) to the inept and duplicitous Balls & Milliband. They haven’t forgotten the Scottish bastard who stole their pensions. They look at the war criminal Blair poncing around the planet and filling his pockets from the coffers of the vilest despots. The old guard weep as it’s revealed how their hero Benn used legal loopholes to minimise the amount of tax his family paid. And they look at McCluskey and think “Bollocks to that for a game of soldiers, I thought Thatcher had destroyed all those dinosaurs!”

    Across the planet, Socialism has been shown time and again not to work, unable to meet people’s expectations. Unable to overcome it’s intrinsic failing – it’s abhorrence of aspiration, it screams diversity whilst doing all it can to level everyone down to an equal plane of mediocrity.

    Labour must be destroyed in 2015. And as soon as they are gone, their Common Purpose foot soldiers must be rooted out of Britain’s public services if it is to survive as a nation. An early law must be that, having attended any CP course must preclude that person from holding any role in public service or any organisation funded from the public purse – these vipers are the real threat to the UK.

    Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Churchill

  186. Voters look around them (and white folk, as a whole, still numerically far outweigh aliens) and don’t like what they see – from the bigoted racist Abbot, through the hypocrite Lammy (and all the other champagne socialists) to the inept and duplicitous Balls & Milliband. They haven’t forgotten the Scottish bastard who stole their pensions. They look at the war criminal Blair poncing around the planet and filling his pockets from the coffers of the vilest despots. The old guard weep as it’s revealed how their hero Benn used legal loopholes to minimise the amount of tax his family paid. And they look at McCluskey and think “Bollocks to that for a game of soldiers, I thought Thatcher had destroyed all those dinosaurs!”
    Brilliant
    But you forgot to mention the fact that under Blair we held our heads high in the world

  187. “… you forgot to mention the fact that under Blair we held our heads high in the world”

    Crap. Under Blair, decent people were ashamed to admit they were British. Socialists only hold their heads up so they can sneer at the little people.

  188. Goebbels and Goring. Miliband and Balls. The only decent thing one can say about the first pair is that they self-destructed!

  190. “An elderly cancer patient has died just hours after she was granted her final wish to be reunited with her favourite horse as she laid in her hospital bed.’

    AWK, Depending on where you put the parentheses, this could involve her favourite horse actually getting into the hospital bed. This is indeed how I read it first time.

  193. Andy Car Park
    November 10th, 2014 – 10:54
    Andy, for once my usually evil mind didn’t read it that way.

  194. telemachus – 04:18
    “But you forgot to mention the fact that under Blair we held our heads high in the world”

    It was for the noose, or being beheaded!

  195. Andy Car Park – 10:54
    “… her favourite horse actually getting into the hospital bed.”

    To me, it looked like a Car Park.

  196. Baron – 11:39
    He really should have jumped onto the third track, so he could miss the third train.

  197. Two scandals highlighted by UKIP (but the full stories are behind a Times paywall).The headings are:

    Tories by passing election spending limits via a consultancy owned by their hired man,Jim Messina,Obama’s election guru.This conducts electoral surveys.The Conservatives claim it is an independent organization;but do not deny the information is shared with them.

    Liam Fox (ex Conservative defense minister) says EU is punishing UK for defence spending.Spending on Research and Development,and Armaments,is now included in GDP figures used to calculate payments to EU;whilst the UK is spending more on defence then other European NATO countries.

  198. An Iranian girl is on hunger strike in a Tehran jail, she was arrested for demonstrating on behalf of female equality, of which there is little on offer in that society, and campaigners are whipping up a storm of outrage on her behalf. The young lady in question is described as Iranian/British, her family live in Iran. In short another wog taking advantage of the tolerance of this country to stir up trouble on other, distant shores. Petitions are doing the rounds demanding the British Government act to get the girl freed.

    Our Government has no business interfering in the matter. If we are to pick a fight with Tehran there are other, more important issues over which to go rattling sabres than a silly, self-important little girl who has brought her troubles on herself, and if she chooses to starve then I for one will shed no tears.

  199. stephen maybery
    November 10th, 2014 – 14:47
    I find it difficult to believe that you, Stephen. could write such an offensive letter. I do not want to write further on this matter since I believe you have become insane, and can only pray that you will soon be restored to decency and common sense.

  200. Confusion in The Commons over the European Arrest Warrant (EAW) condemned by Speaker Bercow and others,including Carswell and Farage.The House is to vote on accepting 35 regulations previously put to The Commons.Bercow said eleven of these are to be debated and voted upon including the EAW.The Whips and Ministers say ten will be voted upon;and will not include the EAW:but if these measures are passed this will count as the 35 measures being passed.Or so it appears.

    This sounds like the same trickery used over the €2bn demand.It reminds me of the way banks bundled-up financial packages including sub-prime loans which they sold to each other.

  201. Clear Memories (03:25)

    Agree entirely with your sentiments, but sadly fear that the dependency sheeples will instinctively flock to the comfort of the socialist pen in 2015, regardless. Cameron and his crooked cabal missed the boat last time and had to take aboard the louche liberal rump that is even more leftist than Labour, in order to get a majority. Considering his opponent then was a gargoylian demented, one eyed, autistic, unelectable loser, the outcome of the last general election was deplorable. Since then Cameron has, through his devious and determined obduracy to cede even more power to the Brussels Federal aspirations of the unelected Marxists pulling the strings, ensured that the next election will make little or no difference to our increasing Dhimmitude to both Islamic jihad (in all its devious and overtly violent methodologies) and our further immersion into the socialist sewer.

    Unfortunately, our votes for UKIP will ensure our continued descent into the abyss, for at least five more years, as it will enable a Labour victory. It can only be hoped that another five years of the Long March penetrating even more deeply into the institutional fabric of the nation will bring about a level of chaos that will ensure a backlash; but the pandemic disease of stupidity that has engulfed our national culture for the past three decades has probably done for us. Much more destructive than Ebola!

    The show of overt patriotism at the Cenotaph yesterday, has been completely negated by the antics in the Westminster gasworks today over the European arrest warrant. And the pro EU bullshit by all three party leaders at the CBI conference – with BBC agitprop pushing their propaganda. Egregious, scaly-backed, double-dyed, treasonous shit-bags.

    Further evidence today of the depths of depravity involved in the cultural decline was the banging up today, for thirteen yonks, of the sodomite RAF officer who buggered youngsters under his charge in British military establishments. One can only hope he will be ‘suicided’ by the co-inmates when he reaches HM holiday camp.

  202. AWK1 – 16:08 ‘offensive letter?’

    While this girl can protest, there shouldn’t be any reason why Britain should give her any help. We do not have the resources to help ourselves, let alone a lone person who, from stephen’s post, is Iranian/British, with her family living in Iran.

    She is Iranian, in Iran. Nothing to do with Britain at all!

  204. How can the CoE have any credibility when one of their more prestigious flock acts as if insanity has taken hold:

    Let Muslim primary school teachers wear full-face veil in class – Rowan Williams
    Former Archbishop of Canterbury says ‘panic’ about the niqab is ‘largely misplaced’ even if young children cannot see their teacher’s face
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11221033/Let-Muslim-primary-school-teachers-wear-full-face-veil-in-class-Rowan-Williams.html

    Why don’t they send him to Iran where he could explain to the troubled girl in my last post that support for ‘female equality’ is ‘largely misplaced’.

    It might not help the poor girl in Iran, but it would improve matters in the CoE.

  205. Government wins vote on procedural measure to extend debate on EU regulations to 10pm by only 9 votes;after Whips call P.M. and Chancellor in to boost vote.Ms.May claims vote for EU package will be vote for EAW,although Bercow said it would not be,and called Minister’s position “a sleight of hand which would leave the public contemptuous”.

  206. RobertC November 10th, 2014 – 18:51

    Robert re your link to:-

    “There is no need to “panic” about Muslim primary school teachers wearing the full-face veil in class, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Williams, has insisted.”

    “He said concerns that young children would struggle to learn from a woman whose face was covered were “largely misplaced” and that there are other ways to “read” what people are saying.”

    The man is a total utter lunatic.

  207. Williams is yet another example of an articulate, superbly well educated and erudite (but short of sapient) village idiot. They seem to breed like flies everywhere in our progressive society, but the time will come they’ll get swatted, too.

  208. Andy Car Park @10:49

    The Revd Peter Mullen acts as Alexander Boot’s minder at his public appearances.
    He has a formidable personal presence(no ghosts required) , and can be as scary as the Bishop of Bath and Wells demanding payment whilst brandishing a red hot poker.

    (RobertC@18:51) I think Rowan Williams is long overdue for a visit from the Rev.

  209. Isabel Hardman (Spectator) : “Uproar in the Commons….If you’re not confused,you haven’t been following this sufficiently closely”.

  211. Andy Car Park, 10:54

    Consultants please take note.
    The horse had an excellent bedside manner.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2825675/Grandmother-dying-cancer-reunited-horse-heartbreaking-scenes.html

    A heartwarming scene, I would have said.

    PS. According to the Met office it is going to be so mild that you can give the Coyote the winter off 🙂

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/weather/11220184/Met-Office-says-winter-will-be-wetter-and-windier-than-usual.html

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