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Nigel off as well . What times we live in
Nigel Farage – hero to the 17 million. He really was David to the Establishment’s Goliath. Take care Nigel, you really did it. My God, what an achievement.
I don’t think they’ll ever let us have a Brexit but we can now all say: ‘Who voted for that?’
Not us.
Dear Frank,
Statement from Nigel Farage
I have decided to stand aside as Leader of UKIP. The victory for the ‘Leave’ side in the referendum means that my political ambition has been achieved. I came into this struggle from business because I wanted us to be a self-governing nation, not to become a career politician.
UKIP is in a good position and will continue, with my full support to attract a significant vote. Whilst we will now leave the European Union the terms of our withdrawal are unclear. If there is too much backsliding by the Government and with the Labour Party detached from many of its voters then UKIP’s best days may be yet to come.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you the membership for your extraordinary support and generosity over the many years, I could not have done it without you.
Yours as ever,
nigel
Can’t say I blame him. Moreover it should be acknowledged that his ground campaign was the most important of the Brexit purge and of course he kicked the whole thing off 25 years ago. The Tory ‘leavers’ will give him no credit.
I doubt they will fully exploit the opportunity, either.
UKIP without Nigel is a dead duck.
I am sorry he’s gone. What are the former working class Labour voters going to do? They desperately need a new party. They need UKIP. Everyone else spits on them from a great height.
That he has done this through attempts on his life (MI5 both times) and through that back injury is astonishing.
Just to show the scale of Nigel’s miracle, this story from 2010 shows how the Common Purpose outfit the Electoral Commission tried to financially ruin UKIP:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-10801310
Dominic Lawson on how the gaming industry (based mainly in Gibraltar so they pay no tax on internet gambling, ergo they didn’t want a Brexit) rigged the betting odds in the run-up to polling day:
The entire political system has become a plaything of the gaming industry. Throughout the referendum campaign, my work email was inundated with press releases from betting firms, promoting their odds on who — out of Remain and Leave — would win. Oddly, even though the opinion polls suggested the race was a very close one, the betting market always had Remain heavily odds-on.
One very senior political adviser suggested to me that this was ‘a thin market, easy to rig’ and that the Remain campaign were encouraging wealthy supporters to bet heavily on their victory, so that their warnings of financial chaos on Brexit might be given a kind of market credibility.
In fact, the financial traders really did believe there was some predictive wisdom in the betting markets, which on the night of June 23 were suggesting a 90 per cent chance that Britain would vote Remain. This explains the extent of the collapse in sterling and shares immediately after the nation voted for Brexit — and the apoplexy this must have caused investors across the globe.
In other words, the odds put out by the likes of Ladbroke and William Hill actually fomented the global market panic that ensued when those odds were suddenly revealed to be wildly out of sync with reality.
Ladbrokes’ head of political betting, Matthew Shaddick, said with disarming candour: ‘Nobody at Ladbrokes’ HQ will be criticising the predictive power of our odds: they’ll be looking at the money we made.’
The same would go for William Hill, which took great pleasure in revealing that a London woman had chosen this firm to make her first-ever bet: a £100,000 punt on the UK voting to stay in the EU.
Another life damaged or destroyed. And they call it entertainment.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3672918/12billion-s-staggering-sum-Britons-lose-year-gambling-Pity-politicians-busy-squabbling-care-writes-DOMINIC-LAWSON.html
This is something to be wary of on both Guido Fawkes’ website and The Spectator website.
Both have tried to make money their websites by devising commercial tie-ups with gambling companies. In the run-up to polling day, Guido’s website had sponsored content articles from Paddy Power about how all the big money was going on Remain.
There was no downside to Paddy Power or any other bookie from doing this because if Remain won, the bookies’ payouts would be very low.
I saw story after story, obviously derived from press releases sent out by bookies about big bets on Remain. Sky News imbecile Sophy Ridge tweeted verbatim a Ladbrokes press release about two huge bets on Remain.
The Spectator is more highbrow so it won’t take sponsored content but it does run a lot of ads from bookies about political betting. And throughout the run-up, to keep those advertisers happy it ran a betting odds live chart, which – oddly enough – at the very end turns out to have been completely misleading, just like so much else pumped out by the media in the referendum campaign.
There is so little money in political betting for the bookies (the bets on the referendum equate to the bets on a big football match) that there is a great deal of upside for them to rig the odds in certain ways. Remember they are responsible to their shareholders – the biggest of which and the most influential of which are tax-avoiding hedge funds.
I stopped taking political betting odds at face value a long time ago. They are just like opinion polls. They reflect what the bookies and the pollsters want the odds to be. Just look at how they are used to drive media narratives.
This is Guido’s Paddy Power sponsored content. You had to bet big on Remain to get any kind of payout, so there was no risk to the bookies from encouraging this bet and they did it every which way. Every other day I was reading stories based on bookies’ press releases about big bets on Remain:
http://order-order.com/2016/06/20/current-state-play/
‘The big guns are out now, and punters have wagered a whopping £500k this. Two single bets of £30k were placed on Remain at odds of 1/3 – the betting support for Remain is huge and shows no signs of faltering.’
Frank P at 4 July 12.06
Gerard Batten MEP for London seems a sound man. He has written a pamphlet called Road to Freedom (4pp). He sets-out why Article 50 is the wrong way for Brexit and what ought to be done.
Find it at
http://www.gerardbattenmep.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Road-to-Freedom-Revised-AW-24.06.16-1-2.pdf
I never gamble but I’m just looking at the odds on Hillary Clinton and Sharia May, the worst home secretary Britain has ever had of taking the throne in their respective countries and I just don’t understand how either is the front runner.
Nobody in America likes Hillary. Not even Democrats. All she will get at the ballot box is traditional Democrat voters holding their nose to vote for her.
Trump will get traditional Republicans and all the other disenfranchised, the poor, those fed up with political correctness and, most likely, Bernie Sanders supporters.
As to Sharia May, the Remainiac who presided over record-breaking immigration, she has proven to have the opposite of the Midas touch. She is David Cameron in a skirt. Everything she has touched in the past 6 years has turned to ordure.
And that’s not to mention the stench of ordure around her and G4S. She’s the G4S prime minister.
How is she the front runner?
Who likes her? I’ve never met anyone who likes her or even respects her. She’s a devious, manipulative gold-plated failure.
While she was hiding behind the Remainiac sofa the past six months, she managed to go to one constituency meeting about the referendum and faced 200 Conservative party members who all wanted to Leave. She was the only Remainiac in the room. No wonder she didn’t want to go on telly until it was all over.
Both these oft-reported bookies’ odds look ridiculously rigged to me.
Sharia May in particular needs to create a narrative out of nothing. Her career as home secretary is appalling. She has just been on the losing side of the biggest vote in British political history and just when she needs some media momentum, up pops this very helpful set of bookies’ odds.
‘Who? Sharia May? Oh, yes. Bookies’ favourite. By a mile. Didn’t you know? Oh, well, you may never have met anyone who likes her but she must be popular somewhere. You don’t want to listen to the people in your live, gov. Listen to the media.’
How are those bookies’ odds not a confected lie?
The Remainiacs are like the IRA. ‘We haven’t gone away, you know.’ They intend to put Brexit back in the dustbin and it’s the same old false media narrative they intend to use to do it.
I see Mishcon De Reya are acting for a bunch of spiv businessmen to overturn Brexit.
THE EUROPEAN UNION – A private CLUB FOR PAEDOPHILE TOFFS?
Anyone reading my short post on the FT WEEKEND yesterday may have asked themselves why the New World Order Pink ‘Un, now nominally run by the Nikkei, would have launched Kazuo Ishiguro OBE, FRSA, FRS at British Brexiteers in a piece of yellow journalism which characterises the majority of them as racists.
A major concern of the globalists seems to be, as well-documented by the article of Wayne Madsen below, a seasoned spook and former expert in submarine warfare, now an investigative journalist with Infowar, that Brexit carries the risk that they may lose their freedom to travel, conspire and congregate as paedophiles in an ever closer union.
http://www.infowars.com/the-eu-a-powerhouse-pedophile-hierarchy/
I very strongly suspect we are going to get a coronation of Sharia May, without going to Conservative party members for a vote on their choice.
I just don’t see how any other candidate can make the puppet-masters Ken Clarke, Michael Heseltine and all the hedge fund backers happy.
They have just gone to the polls and lost dismally. I cannot see them doing it again, even if it is only Tory party members they would face.
I think what we’re seeing is a stitch-up of Sharia May’s parliamentary supporters voting for Leadsom to keep Gove away from the final two and when Sharia May and Leadson are on the final ticket, Leadsom being put under enormous pressure to step down, thereby avoiding a voting contest before Conservative members.
Leadsom is a newbie MP and will be pliant.
May, whose only talent is for getting others to do her dirty work, will say: ‘It was nothing to do with me. I always wanted a democratic contest before Tory members. The plain fact is Ms Leadsom has stepped down and we are rudderless. I am prime minister.’
At this stage, the Ken Clarke / Michael Heseltine axis of evil cannot afford another democratic contest to go wrong.
Brexit must be put back in the bottle and the only guarantee of that is Sharia May.
Just look at the Mischcon de Reya interference. These people are fighting like cornered dogs. No EU means no tyranny and they know that. They can’t risk a vote again.
It’s just the same response as usual from these spivs: double down on the manipulation and lies. As far as they’re concerned, they just didn’t do enough of this in the campaign. They are pure evil.
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Professor A.C.Grayling raises the banner of rebellion against the people.He should remember what happened to the last one who did so:that man of blood Charles Stuart.
Grayling previously declared there should not be a referendum and it should be left to those who know better,the MPs ;not the plebs.
https://www.nchlondon.ac.uk/2016/07/01/professor-c-graylings-letter-650-mps-urging-parliament-not-support-motion-trigger-article-50-lisbon-treaty-1-july-2016/
AC Grayling – another faux academic! Being too clever by half is what has brought all this about. We don’t live in a script written by cossetted academics. We live in the misery they created!
They will not acknowledge defeat and change. For them, it’s knuckle down and try even more to impose their grand design. We don’t want it. One of Richard Littlejohn’s greatest lines is whenever he talks about mass, uncontrolled immigration: ‘Who voted for that?’ And now he can keep saying it.
We don’t want it, Grayling.
In situations like this, you always have to look for friendly fire and backstabbing and the Daily Mail is signalling just where we’re going in that respect, because once again it is stabbing its readers in the back.
In the successful UKIP by-election victories in Clacton and Rochester and Strood, the Daily Mail ran the most vicious, wicked smears of UKIP (ie, its own readership), but to no avail.
As of January 2015, right up to polling day in May 2015, the Mail dropped nearly all immigration stories and focused solely on white benefit families with large numbers of children. This was entirely disproportionate to how many such people there are.
At the same time in that election campaign the Mail smeared and smeared and smeared UKIP. One of the reasons Farage didn’t win Thanet was the Mail. The fact that Douglas Carswell’s vote dropped dramatically in May 2015 and that Mark Reckless lost his UKIP seat in Rochester in 2015 showed how successful the Mail’s smearing of UKIP was in that election.
The smears ran in tandem with a Project Fear: don’t split the Tory vote by going to UKIP or you’ll get Ed Miliband in Number 10. It worked.
I very much get the sense that Paul Dacre knew just how much he had alienated his readers to let the Establishment have their way in 2015 and that this referendum was a chance for him to build bridges with the Mail’s readership without letting them vote on seats in the Commons.
Having placated his readers (‘Take a bow, Britain’), he has returned to form and unprecedentedly for the Mail, come out in support of Sharia May right at the start of campaigning and not at the end.
It’s almost like Dacre is running back to the establishment saying: ‘Right, I’ve got my readers back on side, shove your establishment candidate in there now.’
Why has the Mail declared its support for May so early? It smacks of a planned coronation. Not even time for a real campaign in front of Tory members. The Mail simply does not declare its support so early. There is something fishy going on.
It’s the backstabbing you need to watch and Dacre is an expert at it. Running with the hare and with the hounds. He’s an establishment man who only does just enough to keep his readers on board.
He is saying to the May camp: ‘Go on, you’re pushing at an open door. Have a coronation and we’ll run the line that unusual times call for such a subversion of democracy.’
Why else has he laid his cards on the table like this for the first time ever?
Malfleur. 4 July at 15.10
The article contains a great deal about Madeline Mcann and Tony Blair :(rightly or wrongly).
http://www.infowars.com/the-eu-a-powerhouse-pedophile-hierarchy/
Costa mum – 14:15
The BBC love her. Local radio had pieces on her and Gove, May was just everything you would want, while Gove was never in his constituency.
What a shower is the BBC!
I’ve been reading a lot about Farage today and all I can say is wow! What a man. He has truly been Asterix the little super hero to the establishment army.
The argument against the EU was always an easy one. It has been set out by Margaret Thatcher and Tony Benn (the theoretician of why the EU is so evil), but it needed someone outside the establishment to stand up and make it.
Farage’s debating skills in live debate were just superb. He never rose to the bait. He was smeared, bullied, cajoled, assaulted, in two cases sabotaged.
Boy am I going to miss someone rubbing the Establishment’s face in their own stinking ordure like a dog that dumped on the carpet and was taught a lesson. You see that Emily Thornberry? You see that David Cameron? That was you what done that, now let’s rub your nose in your own filth and see how you like it. Whassat? You don’t like it? Whaddya want other people to live in that for then?
This could never, ever have happened without him. And right up to the end of the campaign, I thought he was great. Having got all his big TV appearances out of the way and with the Press keen not to talk about immigration. Thwack!
Out he came with the Breaking Point poster. They tried to smear him for it but in doing so walked straight into his trap. Ah, yes, what was that issue you had taken off the front pages for the past few days after George Osborne tried to seize the agenda with the Emergency Budget and you’ll all lose your pensions. Ah, yes, not George’s fantasy lies, but the reality of immigration. So let’s get real. Get that back on your front pages. And if you need an excuse to get it on there, here we go: Breaking Point! Wonderful poster.
The Press thought they’d hit the jugular and instead went straight into Farage’s bear pit. Immigration hadn’t had a strong look-in since Gideon seized the agenda with his sky-will-fall-on-your-head Budget scare.
Get immigration back on that front page. Now. Well done, Nigel.
Hours after that poster was released there came the mysterious death of Jo Cox and Farage again played a blinder by pulling out of his last scheduled TV appearance on Channel 4 on the Tuesday before the Thursday polling day.
What would have been the point on going on to a hard left TV channel just to take a battering? He’d done enough at that stage. You can’t fatten a pig before market day and there was nothing to gain by going on that Channel 4 show and everything to lose. It wasn’t worth a 30-second clip from it being re-used in the final 24 hour news TV cycle before the Thursday so stuff it, he went and had dinner with his son! Quite right.
It wasn’t worth the risk going on that show. At that stage the Remainiacs were throwing everything at it, including the kitchen sink. Channel 4 would have manufactured a TV moment just to get one final, nasty 60 seconds played on a loop. Nigel went to ground after the Jo Cox incident and quite right too. The Left really overplayed their hand with that.
Let them fry in their own sanctimonious PR goose fat!
Whether we get Brexit or not, I don’t know but this could never, ever have happened without him. God bless you, Nigel.
My own expectation is that Brexit won’t happen but that Nigel’s nudging at the pillars of power in the UK will spread Nexit contagion to the Continent and that someone else pulling out will see the whole thing collapse. They’re as sick of it as the UK is. If Holland or France can give it one more shove, collapso! That’s the Establishment’s big job now: stopping contagion. Go for it France and Holland – all the way!
Thank you, Nigel. Just thank you, thank you!
American Budweiser : never mind the taste ; look at their Clydesdale heavy horses.
https://youtu.be/g77Qx2ZvE0
Budweiser Clydesdales : try this.
https://youtu.be/7jzi2mrfUUQ
Frank P @ 12:06
He’s done the right thing, Frank, one quits when one’s winning, and there could be no bigger win for him then the out vote backed by over 17mn burghers. Just look what happens to those who set an aim, reach it, then overstay e.g. the Americans in Afghanistan.
Moreover, he won’t disappear altogether, Baron hopes, he will be around watching the process of re-adjustment to full sovereignty, comment, heap praise or censure.
Costa mum @ 11:36
Welcome to the fold, Costa mum, you’re not here just for the brexit, you’ll stick for the long run, Baron hopes, you seem prolific on postings, you hit the right notes, too. That’s what we need.
Costa mum @ 17:24
On the saintly Teresa:
It would be a grave mistake to go for her coronation, Costa mum, Labour did it with Brown, paid for it heavily. The choice of the two won’t be much better, but at least it will give the party members a say in who should be in charge, for the electorate at large it will indicate that it wasn’t just an in-house coup.
Pushing for her leadership may not in itself be a smart move for the party’s future, however, the key reason for brexit was immigration, her brief, she didn’t do well at it.
On the bill to invoke article 50:
Whatever stitch-up the Tories may engineer they should be careful, keep in mind the 17mn votes, there will have to be a noticeable drop in the numbers coming, they will have to account for the level of immigration and the trend underpinning it at the next election.
Most of the MPs were, still are against brexit, but could they be sure they get re-elected if they vote against the bill when it’s tabled? That’s everyone’s guess. Baron reckons most of the Remainers in either of the two major parties will follow the will of the people, back the bill.
There also is the reaction of the European side to consider, from the pieces Baron has scanned, the German leaders (and also some others) are thoroughly fed up with us, won’t have us back on any terms. This attitude may change, it’s politicians talking, but the mood of the electorate in the EU member states has also shifted noticeably on the immigration issue, the leaders of the EU members and the EU apparatchiks have a job on their hand to contain it, the last thing they need is a country that has rejected their policy on the issue.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/04/eu-citizens-fear-muslim-migration/
Costa mum @ 18:31
You may be right, Costa mum, thinking that the MSM have the power to shift people’s attitudes before elections. Baron reckons it’s not as instrumental for opinion forming as it once was, the internet has dented it, will reduce it further, the drop in readership of the tabloids would back it up.
This may not be necessarily in favour of our take on things, it’s the young who get most of the ‘leadership’ from the on-line social platforms, but the mid-age segment is catching up, and they tend to vote more than the shrieking youngsters.
The BBC is the key culprit, many still view it as the most authoritative source of information. This monopolistic agitprop is what we should be afraid of, hit at every opportunity.
AC Grayling. I have two of his books in front of me as I write. “Among the Dead Cities” and “Liberty in the Age of Terror”. Both are absorbing, excellent works.
The former considers the horror of the bombing war and in particular the international framework of law developed to prevent future occurrences. This is perhaps a clue to his referendum denial.
Ironically, the second book details measure used in both the UK and US which have reduced civil liberties purportedly in the fight against terror.
Odd, isn’t it, that this would-be libertarian now seeks, in such an autocratic manner, to confine us within the tyrannical straitjacket of the EU.
I hope and trust MPs direct his polemic to the round file.
London law firm Mishcon de Reya said it had started legal action to demand the British government win legislative approval from Parliament before triggering a formal divorce from the European Union.
The forces of Darkness have started to march:
“Mishcon de Reya, a leading London-based firm, said a British leader would need an Act of Parliament before invoking Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, the trigger for formal negotiations on exiting the bloc Britain joined in 1973.
The action is the first concrete signal since the June 23 referendum that the implementation of the 52-48 Brexit vote could be challenged, or at least amended…”
http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-law-idUKKCN0ZK0HZ
Radford NG @ 21:53
Superb beasts, Radford, and the point of the clip was what?
Btw, their tails are docked, why? They may not be many flies in this country, but it looks strange to see a tail-less horse, kind of incomplete, no?
And Hitchens too, depressingly right-ish, as ever.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/07/i-told-you-so.html
Costa mum – 20:18
It is surprising how the Continentals have, after a few hussy fits, accepted the decision. So has Cameron, but the rest have forgotten we live in a democracy: Charlotte Church being the latest!
The German minister (schueb…?) admitting his warning against Brexit was initiated by Osborne just shows how corrupt everything is, in England anyway, while Boris supporting Leadsome (while not pushing him for high office 🙂 ) shows how difficult it is when so little truth has been generated by the Establishment.
I think Farage stepping aside is another master stroke, for him to take a long earned rest, and a great opportunity for UKIP to start another chapter, shaped partly by how difficult the Establishment are over Brexit, as Farage had given his all, and then a lot more!
We still have the BBC playing for Remain. They are so despicable.
It looks like, with the EU shoving (many quite politely) and the Commonwealth and others pulling, we may (pun not intended) yet Leave without the help of Lammy, Blair and ‘that woman from Scotland’. 🙂 :). 🙂
Noa @ 23:19
If the House as it’s currently sits were to go against the wishes of the country it would be the end of democracy as we knew it. A hell may break out, they better be careful.
The barbarian has said it before, would we have seen similar attempts at thwarting the will of the people if the vote was exactly as it was, but the other way round? If a group of ‘concerned citizens’ were to challenge it, they would be laughed at at best, accused of fascist tendencies at worst.
Which part of ‘out’ don’t they understand?
I’ve just watched the footage of a grandmother being harrassed by Remainiancs and I just find their level of arrogance astonishing. They lost. It’s interesting because someone calms the Remainiac in the footage down and when she is asked why Europe is so good, she says Leavers are destroying this country and Europe give the UK its strength!
Hollow platitudes. I thought one of the best articles I read in the campaign was by Simon Heffer, which simply said if the EU is so great, why do its supporters have so much trouble making a case for it?
Every single argument they put forward can be batted away with three words: Power without accountability.
Workers’ rights? I agree. But why is is not done in Parliament? Someone told me they wanted the EU because it protected the environment and the UK wouldn’t do it on its own. Ah ha, I said, so you admit you want power without accountability.
They never made the case for the EU because there was no case. All they had to say – and they think we can’t see because they dress it up in fluffy terms – is you need this jackboot on your throat.
We don’t. If something needs sorting out, sort it out in a sovereign parliament. That’s the case as put by Margaret Thatcher, Tony Benn et al. And even when I put it to them that Bob Crow, Tony Benn, George Galloway and Jeremy Corbyn were all ardently anti-EU (Corbyn lied in the campaign) – silence. They had no reply. They are sheep who watch the BBC and read The Guardian. Whatever those organs pump out they follow. Even Daily Mail readers hate most of the wretched paper! The Daily Mail even had to ban Hitchens on the Sunday before the last election.
I love that link, Noa. Did you notice how – just so his column didn’t get pulled again the Sunday before voting day – Hitchens got it all off his chest the penultimate Sunday before polling day. It’s like the three little pigs having to get up out of bed early before the big bad wolf Geordie Greig huffs and puffs and won’t let their column in. From now on until he retires, Peter Hitchens’ column on the penultimate Sunday before polling day is the one to look out for just in case he’s banned from writing on the final Sunday. What a cheek that Greig man has.
Even that prize buffoon Owen Jones was anti-EU until a year ago.
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/04/woman-abused-ignorant-europhiles/
It is extremely interesting because they are in a conundrum now. If they don’t let us Leave, it exposes them all forever for what they are.
That’s why this referendum was so fantastic. No tactical voting. No fluff. One or the other. They will never, ever let us have another referendum having seen what we’ve just done.
No human Nick Clegg shields to hide behind now. Moment of truth. Ah, you hate democracy! Thanks for letting us know.
Let them squirm. My pleasure.
Noa @ 23:29
Peter’s take on the referendum was well known, Noa, but his solution “a majority coalition of voters from both parties united round a socially conservative platform’ was not only ‘fanciful’ (as he himself says), but not doable.
It’s almost laughable how somehow with his intellect can propose something of this sort. How on earth would that happen? Who would be the prime mover in such ‘coalition of voters from both parties’, has Jesus returned?
This reminds Baron of a clip from an old movie, a guy is asking a villager how to get somewhere, the villager say ‘if I were you I wouldn’t start from here’. That’s the same with Peter’s idea of a ‘coalition of voters from both parties’. We don’t have it, no point in saying ‘if we had it’.
If such a coalition could have been set up, of course it would have been the answer to out prayers, but not in thousands years would a sufficient number of people who have always voted for either of the two major parties join forces, if they disliked what the party of their choice proposed, at most they abstained from voting, joined a third party, never the arch rival. And to think that another single issue party with he same aim as UKIP could have been created is just atavistically silly.
More to the point, if there were to be a re-alignment of political forces here, it won’t be along the same ideological lines of the past – Left and Right, that division has had it, it no longer applies, it’s on life support.
Costa mum @ 23:54
There also was a survey done after the polling day, more (5%) of those voting Remain regretted it than those who voted Leave (4%).
The woman with the Leave placard had courage, she should have asked the one ranting at her ‘you know who Neven Mimica is’ or ‘Violeta Bunc’?
The screaming crowds are likely to swell the ranks of those who want the country back even more.
Just been on the Daily Mail website, which is Sharia May’s openly declared propaganda vehicle in the election. She thinks we’re all still living pre-referendum and she can trot out Dave-style spin: I’ll renew Trident to see off ISIS.
No Sharia May. Trident has got nothing to do with ISIS. That’s just a smokescreen ‘security’ argument that – oh so conspicuously – fails to deal with Britain’s border security. And which would also line the pockets of some very large contractors for doing work we don’t want. Just like a lot of those G4S contracts. The level of anger directed at her in the Comments section is like nothing I’ve ever seen.
The rib taking that’s normally in those Comment sections has been replaced by Anglo Saxon monosyllables. This woman is a total insult.
“Borders, language, culture.”
May should invite Dr. Michael Savage to London to explain this to her.
Yet another entire Leader column in the Mail that grovels on all fours before Sharia May. There is something very fishy going on. It’s so unlike the Mail to write like this at this stage of a leadership campaign.
I think the problem the Rothermere family have is that they can own Sharia May but not own Leadsom. Leadsom hasn’t been there long enough to be in the pocket of the Establishment and they don’t want an unknown quantity. They want someone bought and paid for who knows where they take orders from and feel they have that in Sharia May.
All I can say is I hope she splits the Tory party in two the way that Corbyn has with Labour. We need rid of this dross. That’s what the referendum proves. We certainly don’t need more of it. I’ve never seen the Mail so desperate to close ranks. It’s as if Dacre is saying: ‘I’ve got rid of Nigel Farage, now it’s business as usual. I decide what happens round here.’
Yall heard that pinko Hillary has been hauled in by the FBI. So lock her up. Anyways Donald now has no fears from her. Donald however will be sad that he will not be able to come over and visit with Boris. According to the Washington Post Theresa May will get Downing Street now. Now just who the hell is she? Is she a pinko like Hillary. And where is Andy anyway?
Costa Mum
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Sharia May?
This is what Theresa May actually said
“A number of women have reportedly been victims of what appear to be discriminatory decisions taken by Sharia councils, and that is a significant concern.
“There is only one rule of law in our country, which provides rights and security for every citizen.”
I detect a smidgem of misogyny here and we want none of it
I know you disagree
So please ban me
Jennifer Oldham @ 08:01
Misogyny, Jennifer?, more like hypocrisy, doubled dealing, pretense, and why not?
The members of the House today are no longer our representatives, they are employees, it’s a job to be an MP, with many a privilege, but a job like any other, and she behaves as one would expect an employee at whatever level of management to behave, the market conditions change, the marketing plan must also change.
The saintly Teresa has been good at it, against gay marriage (in fact, against gays), then for it, in favour of Remain, then after the battle strongly for Leave (she’s the only candidate for the top job who refused to say those EU nationals already here won’t be kicked out), in favour of sharia (at least parts of it), then not, for the ‘uman rites’ crap, now presumably against ….. You may find she’s done more u-turns than any other current politician. Misogyny indeed.
And why should anyone ban you? It seems Peter took action against tele, but he’s been relatively quiet everywhere, still attending to his wounds that must be of some concern to him, the Leave have had it.
John Jefferson Burns @ 07:41
You rejoice, John, when it’s over, not before, just look at the carnage here, all in needs is for HM to resign, and the country could pack it up, start knitting.
Jennifer, you forgot the first part of that speech:
Theresa May says many Britons ‘BENEFIT GREATLY’ from Sharia Law
I am fed up with the mainstream media forgetting Sharia May’s past and that is why I use that moniker for her. It strikes me as entirely accurate given what she said and we need to put a marker down as to what this would-be prime minister is. Last time we had Call Me Dave, this time I suggest we use Sharia May. It rhymes too.
This is an interesting comment on uninsured drivers. It has the most upvotes. Are some people living in a parallel legal universe?
billy, london, United Kingdom,
‘Nobody will be surprised that east London has the most uninsured vehicles, there is an obvious reason why!!’
http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-3670274/The-UK-s-uninsured-driver-hotspots-revealed-risk-East-London.html
This – or something like this – is my big hope:
‘The bold decision by the British people will stimulate a wider European revolt against the EU. I expect Greece to fall out of the euro within months, setting off a chain reaction. There will be a determined attempt, led by Germany’s Angela Merkel, to use this crisis to make moves to create a single European country. This will be resisted, leading to convulsions across Europe against a background of mass unemployment and economic failure.’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3659144/Carney-sacked-Lord-Farage-bye-bye-Scotland-Oh-brand-new-party-PETER-OBORNE-looks-crystal-ball-coming-months-hold.html
The Greeks were wrong to slap Brussels in the face at the ballot box only to turn around and grovel. They only did so because Brussels would demolish their credit lines and bring chaos. The Greeks should have just accepted that punishment and got on with it. Yes, it would have been chaos initially but it would have sorted itself out in the long run. You can’t make an omelette without breaking eggs.
The break up of this federal tyranny is not going to be pretty in its final days. I suspect the Greeks will have to fight hand to hand to enter the parliament and cause a coup. That’s why Merkel wants her European army. She knows this is only headed one way: lanterns and pitchforks. It serves this stealth Communist right. She has destroyed lives. How dare she.
YouGov – poll rigger par excellence is up to its usual tricks in the Tory election.
The plain fact is Sharia May fails on one simple question and the most important question: Were you a Remainer or a Leaver?
Did you fight for Britain or did you lie through your teeth to keep it in shackles?
YouGov sidesteps around this by using the poll to take the spotlight off the defining question.
‘The Home Secretary is favoured as the strongest leader (63 per cent), the one able to make the toughest decisions (58 per cent) and also, crucially, as the unifying candidate in this vote (61 per cent).’
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/theresa-may-marches-ahead-tory-leadership-poll/
See what YouGov does there? Creates a personality from nothing. Never mind Leave and Remain, the most important issue. Let’s talk about this, talk about that, talk about the other. Just keep swinging that spotlight gently off Leave and Remain and put it on something else, there’s a good pollster now.
YouGov does not do polls, it works out what it wants to fill newsprint column inches with as distraction material and then devises a ‘poll’ according to that.
Here’s a real poll: Who do you want in Number 10 – a Remainer or a Leaver?
It’s the assiduousness of companies like YouGov in not asking questions like that which gives the game away about what they really are: propagandists posing as pollsters.
Radford NG
July 4th, 2016 – 13:27
Thank you for that interesting document. If the facts contained therein are constitutionally accurate, then why isn’t this being shouted from the rooftops?
How we can be held to treaties conjured up by a team of bureauratic scamsters, when a democratic decision has been made by We The People to remove the leech which has attached itself to the nation’s jugular vein. I’m all for cutting Gordian Knots – the Brexit vote did just that. If it is not implemented forthwith we must embark on a serious bout of civil disobedience. If that doesn’t work then it’s time for the tumbrils.
‘International law’ cannot be enforced if we don’t agree to its enforcement. Our obligation to an un-elected cabal of crooks is zero. The only possible enforcement of ‘international law’ is war; bring it on! No more money should pass from our treasury coffers to Brussels. Our Courts should ignore the over-riding dictates of the EU Courts. We should stop all Islamic immigration to this country forthwith. Why are we importing swathes of people whose ideological/quasi-religious objective is to kill us or force us to submit to the barbaric dictates of their figurehead – a 7th Century murderous thug. The tide of East/West conflict over the centuries has been the the ebb and flow of the jihad. The globe is awash with either either overt or covert jihad – by violence or infiltration. The Washington Administration is riddled with Islamic subversives. Our own central and municipal authorities are already riddled with inimical Islamic place men. The MSM is heavily populated with them. Our Capital is not only demographically over-run with them, it now has a Muslim Mayor who is also a commie – groomed by Benedict Birnberg.
Successive governments of both stripes have pandered to excess immigration in search of electoral votes. The time has come to bring this to a halt. Seventeen million voters said it must be so. The fifteen million Remainiacs either have a vested or ideological interest in the Euroscam or they are clinically insane – irretrievably brainwashed.
It is bad enough that we have to support an overblown political class in Westminster, with its vast array of Quangos and Spads; lobbyists and appointees, fiddling their expenses and adding nepotistic practices to their shenanigans. Parasitical bastards.
If ever there was a time for a coup d’etat, it is now. Richard Kemp – please step forward. The Augean Stables are shoulder high in shit. And Dracula’s Bride in Fuck-me-Shoes looks like a shoo-in for No.10.
The political class, its agitprop MSM and the BBC is rotten to the core. It’s time for a major muck-out. By the way – where is CMD? Sunning himself on a beech somewhere with his leftist spouse having seceded from responsibility in a fit of pique? Cowardly treasonous bastard!
Jennifer Oldham (aka Teletwat)
Fuck off!
beach not beech. I’d like to see him impaled on the latter nicely tapered for the job.
Fucking spoon-faced, hen’s arsed-mouthed douchebag (and I quote).
Costa mum
Great posts, keep ’em coming!
I see Fox News is calling Hillary Clinton ‘deleter of the Free World’.
Worth the effort:
http://us2.campaign-archive2.com/?u=cd87abaa476ddb40d85de000d&id=866354666f&e=9b05c8453f
Baron 1042
There is much about which to rejoice. You have rejected rule by Hitler’s moll Frau Merkel. And we are about to ditch Communist Obama while Hillary prepares for Alcatraz. Love to Andy.
Costa mum – 10:52
Sharia May it is !
One hopes that Dr Van Helsing or Buffy will put in a last minute appearance to save us!
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Peter+Cushing+Dr.+Van+Helsing&tbm=isch&tbo=u
Funniest piece of political video tape I’ve ever seen Ken EU tyrant Clarke and Malcolm EU brat Rifkind on the Tory leadership race:
http://order-order.com/2016/07/05/ken-clarke-bitchy-woman-theresa-may/
As I notice them I will put various sock puppets into moderation. There are more than you can imagine.
Today Obama and Hillary are having a day out together on Air Force 1 campaigning in North Carolina. The first time ever a POTUS has campaigned on behalf of a candidate who is the target of an active (two of them) FBI criminal investigation.
I hope that I’m proved wrong but any hope of Hillary being indicted before hell freezes over is now just a distant memory.
Comey caved! What a despicable and corrupt mess is American politics.
So the Hillbillary mob is off the hook on the emails. What about the Clinton Foundation? He didn’t even mention it.
And Bill was just talking to Loretta about the Grandkids when he ambushed her at the airport..
The whole Western World is in the thrall of crooks and idiots.
Who is kidding who!
And what happened to the Rico Statute enquiry?
I can hear skeletons rattling in cupboards all over Washington.
And what about Benghazi?
If Comey is regarded as a ‘straight shooter’ ffs don’t introduce me to a bent one.
All the bollocks about him ‘laying her reckless and irresponsible handling of security out on the line’, means absolutely nothing. That was just an attempt to ward off accusations that he was bought and paid for. His punchline belied the ramble. And Lynch saying yesterday ‘I will accept the recommedations of the FBI’ told the whole story. She already knew; so did Obama – he was campaigning with the bent bitch today. The only question that remains is who has got what on whom? Bent! Bent. Bent!
So what’s new?
Judge Nap – step up to the plate! Followed by Rudy Guilianno and Chris Christie.
Classified documents on a home computer?
Reportedly BJC has previous experience of this!
https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/750369130222583808
Judge Nap has been taking a nap, on vacation in recent days.
Trying to keep his head down?
… after blurting out on TV that, according to the 911 transcripts and contrary to popular belief, NOBODY died in the Orlando nightclub massacre until 05:13am – the moment when the SWAT team went in! Cover up, anyone?
http://www.bizpacreview.com/2016/06/29/judge-nap-questions-official-orlando-shooting-summary-saying-nobody-died-until-after-swat-arrived-358678
Frank P,
“The whole Western World is in the thrall of crooks and idiots.”
Aye!
Looks like we’d better get ready for President Hillary Rodham Clinton …
a lawless, brass-necked, self-serving, mendacious monster, who sold her country to the highest bidder.
Theresa May: 165
Andrea Leadsom: 66
Michael Gove: 48
Stephen Crabb: 34
Liam Fox: 16
Bride of Dracula 165; The Rest 164
On two fronts – cue Dickie Mottram.
And the two fronts, both politically and in CRS, are Clinton and May. Two 24 carat fronts.
Is there anything that can be done – apart from taking the piss?p
This just about sums it all up:
http://www.barrelstrength.com/2016/07/04/oligarchy-trembles-part-first/
“The most breathtaking fix in American history.”
David Horowitz
http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentary/horowitz-most-frightening-political-fix
FAO. John Jefferson Burns
Here’s Mr Boot with a completely different take on the US of A.
http://www.alexanderboot.com/exactly-what-was-born-on-the-4th-of-july/
Guido Fawkes [ @GuidoFawkes 5 minutes ago ]
#ToryLeadership LATEST
– Crabb out, endorses May
– Fox endorses May
– Gove staying in race
http://order-order.com/2016/07/05/crabb-pulls-out/
Have you seen this ad?
Please help just one Muslim orphan?
Yes, tell him/her about Jesus 🙂
John Jefferson Burns @ 13:24
Only if Donald gets it should Alcatraz roll out the red carpet, John.
It feels the saintly Teresa will be the chosen one by the Old Guard, what will the shires do?
Whoever gets to lead the Tories will have a job on his hand, the turmoil of the election seems to be blinding the contenders as to the nature of the task. How will she, (more likely than he), stem the flow and yet keep Mutti happy? Because if she doesn’t, the Tories will be ‘flown out’ themselves, the electorate is unlikely to embrace the massive inflows in the future any more than it has done in the past (that led eventually to the Leave win).
Perhaps, the Old Guard know what they’re doing offering the saintly one as the sacrificial goat, whose certain sorry demise before the next national count will assuage, mollify or at least temper the anger of the unwashed (without sinking also the Tory party).
EC July 4th, 2016 – 09:53
Sorry, EC, the barbarian is going slowly through old postings, have discovered the one in which you inquire which is which (or should it be who’s who) amongst the Barons floating on some of the exoteric platforms so eagerly frequented mostly by the young.
Not one, the real thing is to be found here, Baron is a shortcut for Baron Pippin II (plus the other monikers you know of).
EC @ 20:40
Well, well, well, EC, after months of probing, investigating, searching the FBI says ‘it’s OK, she did commit a crime, but that’s fine with us, others though beware, avoid committing the same’.
As Baron guessed the meeting between the two heads (one of the Clinton clan, the other of the Administration’s top legal office) was for each to firm up on what the other party has on the party doing the asking, then informally make a deal, no smoking gun, no parchment, in a kind’a mafia’ style – one party agreed to keep her mouth shut, the other to give the red light to any criminal proceedings. Voila, if only other pressing matters could be resolved that amicably, no?
Baron rather admires it, just think how much money would have the shyster lawyers made if proceedings went ahead, apart from the little matter of the November election, the fate of the Democratic candidate.
And this little snippet of news from the remnants of the EU, sorry from Germany:
So, how are last year’s immigrants doing in Germany, you may ask?
Not that well, according to Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ). The paper has approached 30 top concerns, which are a major part of DAZ (the equivalent of our Footsie, the 30 companies have a combined turnover of 1.1bn Euro, employ 3.5mn workers). It was shocked being told only 54 of the recent immigrants have found jobs so far (50 of which were with the Deutsche Post).
The reasons for this minuscule intake of migrant labour (60% of all immigrants are young men below 35) are twofold: Of the 131,000 who have been actively seeking employment, two thirds have no qualification at all, almost none speaks German (some speak passable English though).
The paper says the Ministry of Labour estimates it will take at least 5 years to teach both the German language and develop some professional qualifications of those seeking jobs because a third of all the immigrants (well over 1mn, nobody’s quite certain of the exact number, the agencies are working on it) are totally illiterate.
If only Mutti listened to some of us bloggers, had some controls at the border crossings that would filter those who had a genuine asylum claim together with those who could be employed (i.e. the said 54) the land of the Germans would today be free of largely illiterate crowd, sex attacks would be lower, too, the possibility of an atrocity small, and the 12bn Euro budget surplus would be available to plug the hole left by Britain’s leaving the EU bureaucracy rather than allocated to be spent on teaching over million immigrants to read and write and count in German.
Gutte Nacht.
The usual postscript: Sorry for the errors like ‘the Tories will have a job on his hand’ it was supposed to be ‘the Tory ..”, and other ghastly manifestation of the barbarian’s mistakes, haste it was what did it.
“One wonders how long before all Western peoples conclude that only a French Revolution complete with guillotine can set them free.”
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/06/29/the-collapse-of-western-democracy-paul-craig-roberts/
Buy a little gold if you can afford it; if you can’t, buy a little silver.
`God Damn you Henry Ireton
God Damn you to Hell.
God Damn you Henry Ireton,
The Lord General and Fairfax too.`
`We didn’t cut off Charles’s head just to make Oliver King.`
`It’s a long way to Saffron Walden,
It’s a long way to go.
It’s a long way to Saffron Walden,
And the roads all covered in snow.
It’s a long way to Saffron Walden.
And the Army is there! `
`Goodby Gerard Winstanly,
Farewell Lilburne too.
`It’s a long,long way to Saffron Walden:
The Army is there!`
`Goodby Col. Rainsborough.
`We still honour you.`
`It’s a long,long way to Saffron Walden.
The Army is there!`
`Raise high the Sea-Green Banner.
The flag of England too.`
`It’s a long,long way to Saffron Walden.
The Army is there!`
(Some free verse,some original,some not.Needs some working on;but beat that Fergus [telemacus or John,which ever you are].)
Frank P
July 5th, 2016 – 12:55
Radford NG
July 4th, 2016 – 13:27
The material that Radford has drawn attention to is, in my opinion, entirely sound. It should be very widely publicised and disseminated.
I was attempting to make the same point (but with far less detail) in my posting on July 3rd @ 17:25.
The British Parliament has all the power needed to cut the Gordian Knot that tries to exert a stranglehold over Britain and so tie it to Europe.
It is a simple enough task and the House of Commons should get on with be enacting the necessary repeals without more ado.
The Referendum/Revolution is being betrayed.For the legitimate response of the populous to this see the works of Thomas Jefferson: (but you will know what I mean).
We have been here before,however,when the will of the Army and the English people was betrayed by Lord General Cromwell and Generals Ireton and Fairfax.
They claimed they only had the remit of Parliament;an unrepresentative Parliament.
Now,all together:
The Tipperary Song (Das Boot:1min.16).
Auf die Heimat!
https://youtu.be/pddW-HeHAwo
Anyone following Infowars.com will know that Larry Nichols stated last week that Hillary Clinton would not be indicted as a result of the FBI investigation into her emails.
Nichols has said before though that she will be brought down by the involvement of the Clintons in the death of Vince Foster and that he, Nichols, will see to it.
Correction
My posting July 6@ 02:05 included this –
“It is a simple enough task and the House of Commons should get on with be enacting the necessary repeals without more ado.”
That should of course have been –
“It is a simple enough task and the House of Commons should get on with it BY enacting the necessary repeals without more ado.”
“The real muslims will never accept the filthy ways of the West.” (islamic murderer)
Here is Michael Savage on July 4th 2016.
He is banned by our European Union government from entry into Region 666 or whatever we are now.
He broadcast live on the American national holidayout of a sense of duty. The link gives an idea of what successive Ministers of the Interior under the Unity Party, Jacqui Smith and Theresa May, saw in him to ban him from entry into Britain.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgdt937navY
*****
By the way, when he has finished with his initial attacks on the Obama administration, Savage goes on to take apart the reputation of statins and their big pharma pushers.
*****
Then he goes back to beating up on the enemies of the USA in the White House and Congress.
and
“Merkel has achieved Hitler’s dream of a united Europe under German control”.
Now THERE’s a reason for continuing the ban on Savage.
Alex Jones on Tuesday – 1st Hour – On Comey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KyzzT3i0_I
US DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE FROM THE LAW
2nd Hour has some good stuff – the US Politbureau is making its move
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_1273542363&feature=iv&src_vid=7KyzzT3i0_I&v=GJEpQL4I2EE
3rd Hour has Trump adviser, Roger Stone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=72ad2779-1104-4881-aeea-5db72c136782&feature=cards&src_vid=GJEpQL4I2EE&v=WwQaMTB5_CU
Frank P
July 5th, 2016 – 13:08
Sir, may I second your post? I’m thoroughly enjoying Costa Mum’s frequent and entertaining posts.
An English viewpoint – Paul Joseph Watson in the 4th Hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZNA3JWRtdU
“The Budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
public debt should be reduced,
the arrogance of officialdom should be
tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be
curtailed, lest Rome will become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work
instead of living on public assistance.”
Cicero, 55 BC
So, evidently we’ve learned bugger all over the past 2,071 years.
Bill makes sense of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBpWRRKXuhI
Noa @ 08:32
That we haven’t learnt anything shouldn’t surprise, Noa, we never do, or rather the new generations don’t. They will have to learn the hard way.
One of the most worrying aspects of the EU implosion when it comes will be that the societal turbulence may not be as peaceful. smooth and calm as was that engendered by the decomposition and fall of the Soviet Empire. There people took it rather placidly, they lost nothing because they had nothing. No property, no possessions, no money.
Here and now, the unwashed have alot to lose, will lose, their deposit accounts will get depleted, pensions cut, real money of the little people, the shillings they’ve saved for themselves or their children will be gone. Will they take it as gently as their east European neighbours, will they remain cool and even-tempered? Hmmm
And viewers were laughing thinking it’s a comedy, it isn’t like countries behave, the neighbourly love is for real …..
https://vimeo.com/135166094
The forces of evil continue to work against Brexit
BERLIN/LONDON (Own report) – The German Chancellery is looking for
options that can annul the British referendum’s decision to withdraw
from the EU. According to reports in the media, Chancellor Angela
Merkel has discussed repeating Britain’s referendum with her closest
entourage. However, “external advice” should be avoided, because this
probably would be rejected in Great Britain, according to Chancellery
Minister Peter Altmaier. The German media, on the other hand, is busy
inciting the EU-oriented British establishment majority with concrete
proposals of how the referendum results could be subverted, for
example, it would be risky, if the government simply refuses to
initiate the withdrawal process or if the parliament forbid the
Brexit. However, it is conceivable that the withdrawal negotiations
end with a miserable result, and is, then, submitted to the British
population for approval – in the expectation that it will be rejected.
SPD Chair, Sigmar Gabriel also intensifies pressure by calling for
young EU-oriented Britons to be granted German citizenship. The
appropriation of foreign citizens as Germans is nothing new; it had
previously been restricted to Eastern Europeans with German ancestry.
That one state arrogates the right to claim sovereignty over citizens
of another country on the basis of political orientation – (being
“pro-EU”) – is unprecedented.
more
http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/58955
Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein Feurein
BERLIN (Own report) – Berlin is applying intense pressure in the
aftermath of the Brexit, to reorganize the EU. Under the slogan,
“flexible Union,” initial steps are being taken to establish a “core
Europe.” This would mean an EU, led by a small, tight-knit core of
countries, with the rest of the EU member countries being subordinated
to second-class status. At the same time, the President of the
European Parliament and Germany’s Minister of the Economy (both SPD)
are calling for the communitarization of the EU’s foreign policy,
reinforcement of its external borders, the enhancement of domestic
repression and the creation of a “European FBI.” The German chancellor
has invited France’s president and Italy’s prime minister to Berlin on
Monday to stipulate in advance, measures to be taken at the EU-summit
on Tuesday. German media commentators are speaking in terms of the
EU’s “new directorate” under Berlin’s leadership. At the same time,
Berlin is intensifying pressure on London. The chair of the
Bundestag’s EU Commission predicts a new Scottish referendum on
secession and calls for Scotland’s rapid integration into the EU.
German politicians in the European Parliament are exerting pressure
for rapidly implementing the Brexit and reorganizing the EU.
Chancellor Merkel has reiterated her veiled threat that
“reconciliation and peace” in Europe are “anything but self-evident,”
should European countries choose to no longer be integrated in the EU.
more
http://www.german-foreign-policy.com/en/fulltext/58953
Please can anybody with access thru The Times £Wall cut and paste yesterday’s article by Melanie Phillips.
Here is all I can see at present:
Mm, I need to see the rest of this article, but in the meantime…
Very disappointed so far.
“The lynch mob of the British populace”? That is the kind of “elitist” sneering and smearing that we’ve just fought and won a referendum against!
AND, Ms. Phillips
(1) WTF was Campbell’s dodgy dossier if not a monstrous lie. Blair didn’t know?
(2) Difficult to see how Saddam, pinned behind his own borders could have done more damage than all that has come to pass since.
One couldn’t say it better:
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437479/fbi-rewrites-federal-law-let-hillary-hook
Noa – 09:12
I don’t trust Sharia May not to wave the white flag!
June 23rd was D-Day(II)
Yesterday’s events in USA leave me very depressed. I’m not hopeful of a new POTUS in 2017 that doesn’t want to throw us back under the EU juggernaut.
The Presidential election in April-May 2017 might see Paris liberated under Marine Le Pen. Hopefully not long after that someone will hand Frau Fuhrer the Walther PPK that was last used in 1945.
Well, we can dream.
Noa – 8:32 am
It’s only 2,070 years 🙂 – there’s no zero AD or BC, so from 1 BC to 1 AD is only 1 year.
And no, we haven’t learnt much in that time. We are still only two generations from anarchy – maybe, with so many graduates, we are even closer than that 🙂
When Donald Trump is asked about his plans to ban Muslims entering the US, one of his lines of argument is that other countries do it. Just look at who Sharia May bans from entering the UK.
In 2013, Home Secretary, Theresa May, barred Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer from entering the UK to speak at a rally organised by the English Defence League. Geller and Spencer were behind a campaign to stop the so-called Ground-Zero Mosque being built in New York and both were founders of the group, Stop Islamization of America. Sharia May’s Home Office said their presence in the UK would “not be conducive to the public good”.
Florida pastor Terry Jones was banned from entering the UK in 2011 by Sharia May after he was invited to speak at a gathering of the group England Is Ours in Milton Keynes. The Home Office said that Jones had been banned as the government “opposes extremism in all its forms”.
This is the CV of Sharia May.
This is what Hitchens keeps warning about with her ‘extremism’ laws. She pretends she means Islamic terror when what she really means is opponents of Islamic terror.
Bans were put in place by the Labour government in 2009 that ban Michael Savage and Geert Wilders from entering the UK. Sharia May has upheld both of those bans while in office, all the while extolling how the UK can ‘greatly benefit’ from the imposition of Sharia law.
Once again the mainstream media have drawn an Islamic veil of taqyya over all of this.
I cannot believe Theresa May is the front runner for prime minister with a track record like this.
Baron 23.09
The FBI Director has proved a closet pinko and has let Crooked Hillary off the hook.
If you believe that Sharia May will be a pro-Brexit prime minister consider that track record as home secretary. She has been one of Whitehall’s most devious operators.
This pose of the Second Mrs Thatcher is utterly false. Take Brexit. She was a Remainer. Why was that tough or brave? And now she claims to be a Brexit supporter. So the lady is for turning?
Not at all. She’s no Brexiteer. That track record in the Home Office cannot be denied. It’s there in black and white. She’s has overseen the biggest wave of immigration ever seen and all the while she has to tried to clamp down on free speech against those who opposed this and – at the same time – put us all under surveillance.
What was the biggest rise in crime under this failed home secretary? Thought crime. That’s her priority. People like us. That’s who she wants locked up and banned. To her, it is her opponents who are ‘extremist’.
Because she lives in the cossetted world of electric gated-communities and Sonning on Thames, we can all have Sharia law rammed down our throats and if anyone dares object, there’ll be a knock at the door from Plod about their blogposts.
She is being given a free run at this by the Daily Mail. On Sunday the Mail ran a one-word headline: ‘Hypocrite!’ about Andrea Leadsom because she once said Britain should be in the EU. Well, it should have been put to her in the campaign because when push came to shove, she came out from behind the sofa and fought.
Remember, if Dave had won he was planning political revenge of the kind seen only at the end of Jacobean tragedy. The Leavers were all for the political guillotine under Dave had they lost.
Why doesn’t the Mail put Sharia May on the front cover with the word Hypocrite! now she pretends she’ll follow through with Brexit?
Because as far as Paul Dacre is concerned he can get back to using his newspaper as a Judas Goat and leading its readers to the slaughter. Dacre has seen off UKIP. He did not want an alternative to the Conservatives taking root. That would be a power base he could not control. That’s why he was so relentlessly anti-UKIP all these years.
It is why he was so relentlessly anti-UKIP in its two by-elections in 2014 and in the general election in 2015. Do people have such short memories?
Dacre has seen off UKIP and now he’s letting the Establishment stealthily guide us all back to exactly the opposite direction we all wanted to go.
The funny thing is, it’s not a secret. Look at Sharia May’s track record. It is one of stealth betrayal, all dressed up as ‘I’m a tough operator’.
EC 20.42
Boot is some dude
The article starts:
“Alexander Boot
Writer, critic, polemicist”
So I looked at his blogs and found a wonderful article written and published in your Daily Mail but then deleted.
Deleted for the sake of our Lord Jesus Christ.
“Departure From The Norm – We must beware of our civilisation being battered by the PC brigade
By Alexander Boot.
Boris Johnson is a long-standing champion of sexual tolerance – at least that’s what he seems to expect from his poor wife.
This time he has shifted his innermost convictions into the public arena by banning from London buses a Christian campaign aimed at reforming homosexuals.
‘London is one of the most tolerant cities in the world and intolerant of intolerance,’ he said. I agree.
London is so tolerant it could be twinned with Sodom – or alternatively with our neighbourhood French villages called Orgy and Anus (I’m not joking, they are both next door to us).
True to his word, the good mayor found nothing wrong with the blatant propaganda of homosexuality launched earlier by Stonewall, the charity devoted to promoting homosexual agendas, such as same-sex marriage.
The thrust of their campaign was the probably correct message that homosexuality is innate and therefore irreversible.
In response, Christian groups created a campaign typified by the ad saying ‘Some people are gay. Get over it.’ That’s where Mr Johnson drew the line on his tolerance.
‘It is clearly offensive,’ he thundered, ‘to suggest that being gay is an illness that someone recovers from and I am not prepared to have that suggestion driven around London on our buses.’
Since only about one percent of us are that way inclined, homosexuality is obviously a departure from the norm. Surely, 99 percent are in a better position than one percent to judge what is normal?
The constructive campaign from Christian groups telling gays that they have the choice to ‘get over’ their homosexuality.
And, indulging in a bit of reductio ad absurdum, reversing that proportion would spell the end of the human race, which is clearly undesirable. So the dictionary definition applies in its entirety.
It may well be true that a propensity for homosexual, which is to say aberrant, behaviour is innate.
And it’s indisputable that people ought not to be reproached, much less punished, for the way they are born. They can, however, be legitimately asked not to act on their aberrant tendencies.
And it’s indisputable that people ought not to be reproached, much less punished, for the way they are born. They can, however, be legitimately asked not to act on their aberrant tendencies.
A kleptomaniac only becomes reproachable when he actually steals. A man who’s violent by nature is on safe grounds until he commits a violent act. We aren’t responsible for where we begin in life. But we are responsible for where we finish.
Boris Johnson was said to have intervened himself as chair of TfL when he became aware of the controversial campaign, which mimicked a previous Stonewall initiative.
The campaign that offended the Mayor enunciates the traditional Christian attitude to homosexuality. Rather than regarding homosexuality as a disease from which one could be cured, Christianity regards it as a sin from which one should abstain. It’s only in this sense that a homosexual can ‘get over it’.
Abstaing from sex for moral reasons is tantamount to heroism, and most people can’t be expected to be heroes. That’s why I don’t think homosexuality should be banned, or homosexuals in any way abused.
The campaign that offended the Mayor enunciates the traditional Christian attitude to homosexuality. Rather than regarding homosexuality as a disease from which one could be cured, Christianity regards it as a sin from which one should abstain. It’s only in this sense that a homosexual can ‘get over it’.
Abstaining from sex for moral reasons is tantamount to heroism, and most people can’t be expected to be heroes. That’s why I don’t think homosexuality should be banned, or homosexuals in any way abused,
But Christianity would be remiss in its mission if it didn’t call on them to adhere to the absolute moral standards stipulated by the founding religion of our civilisation.
And all of us, Christians or otherwise, ought to be wary of the systematic campaign to destroy everything our civilisation stands for.
It’s not only our religion but also our constitution, our aesthetic sense, our education and our general morality that are being smashed by the battering ram of PC modernity.
That propaganda of homosexuality can be used in this capacity is beyond question. Witness the fact that the first European country that liberalised homosexuality was Soviet Russia between 1917 and 1934 – neither the time nor the place known for an all-consuming love of Western civilisation
who were almost as tolerant as Mayor Johnson, abolished marriage, and Lenin’s mistress Inessa Armand likened sex to drinking a glass of water.
The Bolsheviks were aware of the destructive potential of sexual licentiousness in all its forms, and they were out to destroy.
Boris Johnson doesn’t want to destroy. He just wants to be re-elected – as a Conservative (!) candidate.
To establish his conservative credentials, he is flaunting his moral relativism, what he calls intolerance of intolerance.
In doing so he denies the right of free speech to a constructive campaign asking homosexuals to reform and suggesting it’s possible – while affording this freedom to a campaign that’s utterly deterministic and destructive, in effect if not in intent.
I’m willing to accept for the sake of argument (and only for its sake) that, rather than simply indulging in full-time electioneering, Mr Johnson really does disagree with the sentiment expressed in the ‘Get over it’ campaign.
But that’s no reason to ban it. For freedom of speech to mean anything at all, it ought to cover the freedom to say things we don’t like. After all, allowing only those statements that please us involves no hardship at all.
Judging by his action, Boris Johnson is rather vague on our constitutional liberties, Western moral and intellectual tradition, and the boundaries of his remit as a politician.
His response to what the ads actually say also betokens a need for a remedial reading class. An ideal future candidate for Prime Minister, I dare say. “
Well that got the critters squawking:
“What a cunt.
I don’t approve of banning things, but hijacking a public space for money just to say you hate people is not “free speech”.
Not sure what to do about this, some people are saying go to the Press Complaints Commission, but they only takes complaints from people who have been personally abused in a story.
Still, worth kicking up a fuss.
I’ve been writing Fagburn for two years now and I can’t think of a worse piece.
You think the Mail would have learnt their lesson after the Stephen Gately/Jan Moir episode and that you can’t get away with hateful homophobic crap like this in the 21st Century, but sadly no.”
Frank P @ 13:00
It’s Patricia something or other that’s another moniker for tele, Frank, Jennifer is his friend, the style of her posting hints at her support for him. Deviousness throughout.
I’ve just been putting my thoughts about Sharia May into a nutshell on another blog and I can summarise them this way.
It’s not merely that she is incompetent. It is that she is spiteful. Her track record is one of spiteful betrayal of the British people. Like the Islamic leaders whose Sharia law she is trying to get through the backdoor, she is a viper in Britain’s bosom.
Are her infamous shoes made of snake skin? She’s pure, venomous viper.
If Dave had won the day, it would have been her cadaverous face that would have been the executioner.
What is all this ‘oh, yes, I’m actually fine with Brexit’ act? Six years ramping up immigration. Six years trying to frame objectors with thought crimes and surveillance. And six years trying to get Sharia law imposed on the UK.
Will someone rid me of of this Sharia high priest?
Yes and talking of c.nts, this Chilcot dude is something else.
The way he records it is that the magnificent eradication of Saddam by George W Bush should have been stopped by Tony Blair stamping his feet.
Well I tell you this Tony Blair over here is a hero,almost on a par with Margaret Thatcher.
He had balls, not like his successors lunatic Brown and jelly man Cameron
And while I am smarting over Comey’s soft treating of crooked Hillary, I read this in the New York Times:
“Even if information is not marked classified in an email, participants who know, or should know, that the subject matter is classified are still obligated to protect it,” Mr. Comey said, suggesting that Mrs. Clinton and her aides were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information
Mr. Comey said the emails included eight chains of emails and replies, some written by her, that contained information classified as “top secret: special access programs.” That classification is the highest level, reserved for the nation’s most highly guarded intelligence operations or sources.
Another 36 chains were “secret,” which is defined as including information that “could be expected to cause serious damage to the national security”; eight others had information classified at the lowest level, “confidential.”
So how the hell can she carry on as a candidate?
Much condemnation of Tony Blair over the invasion of Iraq. I am no admirer of Blair, but I fully supported the invasion. Unlike the self regarding, sanctimonious prats who would like to see the former Prime Minister arraigned on charges of War Crimes, I actually lived in Baghdad for two and a half years when Saddam was at the height of his power, to say the man was a a murderous psychopath loathed by his people would be an understatement of the first order. Make no mistake, he got what he deserved. The mess made of the country after his fall was entirely the work of the Americans. If Blair is to be tried for anything it should be for the destruction of the British constitution., for that I’d hang the bastard.
RobertRetyred @ 10:40
Whilst we are at counting days, Robert, what about the switch from the Julian calendar to the one Gregory was keen on? The eleven days lost to anyone living in the British Empire in the middle of the 18th century, those mortals living elsewhere earlier. How does that change the number, or does it?
John Jefferson Burns – 11:40
“Abstaining from sex for moral reasons is tantamount to heroism, and most people can’t be expected to be heroes.”
“Absinthe doth make the tart grow blonder.”
anon
ABSTAINER, n. A weak person who yields to the temptation of denying himself a pleasure. A total abstainer is one who abstains from everything but abstention, and especially from inactivity in the affairs of others.
Ambrose Bierce (1842 – 1914)
Stephen Maybery – 12:13
“If Blair is to be tried for anything it should be for the destruction of the British constitution., for that I’d hang the bastard.”
Not forgetting Irvine, Falconer, Harman I hope!
Agreed. Blair’s Iraq invasion is the least of his crimes.
I do think there were a lot of hangers on, ie, Halliburton getting contracts and so, so there was financial exploitation but the world had changed after 9/11. But there always is in war. Look at the Rothschild family. That’s their business model – throwing young men under the bus of war and profiting from it.
This school of thought is a valid one: ‘He’s a bastard but he’s our bastard.’
It is still used and should have been used in Libya to prop up Gaddafi but post 9/11 people were worried about Saddam incubating more terror in rogue states. Perhaps we shouldn’t have gone but I think people thought this hadn’t been tried before and should be.
This is the trouble with the Islamic world. What choice do you make in dealing with it? History records that it will always be the wrong choice because there was no right choice. They hate us. They always have. You’re always left trying to work out the lesser of two evils.
It strikes me that the most important school of thought – the untried one – is the most obvious one: it’s the Donald Trump school of thought. Close the borders to the jihadists, keep them out and send them back.
I can’t see beyond that. We have seen what every other approach gets us: vipers in our bosom. Get out.
It is the one thing the Establishment won’t do. Never the twain shall meet with East and West. These cultures are incompatible and need separating. Urgently.
Post-Brexit people in the UK are being thrown under Paul Dacre’s anti-UKIP bus and fed to the jihadist wolves by Sharia May, who excels at nothing quite so much as cutting the tongue off of free speech.
It’s time for a new approach. It’s time for the approach we have always wanted and always been denied. It’s time for Donald Trump.
Stephen Maybury 12.13
Whilst the first Gulf War could arguably be justified on the threat to sovereign states, e.g. the invasion of Kuwait and the threat to Saudi Arabia, the second was in clear contradiction to the established principle of Westphalian sovereignty, wherby each nation state has sovereignty over its territory and domestic affairs, to the exclusion of all external powers, on the principle of non-interference in another country’s domestic affairs, and that each state (no matter how large or small) is equal in international law.
The principle has been attacked by globalists like Tony Blair who argue for a doctrine of responsibility to protect and a consequent right to interferance in the internal affairs of nations, which is all very well, until it is proposed to be applied to you. See for example, my post of 9.12 where German citizenship is being mooted for young pro EU Britons.
Whilst you did not like the Baathist rule in Baghdad that doesn’t mean that it should have been overthrown by a war based on manufactured evidence and a spurious morality. The same could be said of our ‘friends’ and ‘allies’ in Saudi Arabia. On such a basis we could attack, and be attacked, by most of the rest of the world.
“So how the hell can she carry on as a candidate?”
Because at least half of the population of The US of A are dolts.
The same reason that only half the electorate here voted for Brexit:
Gullible dolts, who enjoy being dependent on government for their every need; that is what she promises, what Obama promised – twice! The fact that he failed to deliver and she has no intention of delivering seems to have escaped them. Or that both have used their offices merely to feather their own nests and embroider them with stolen gold; dyed them with the gaudy crimson of the blood of patriots as frivolous and meretricious embellishment. What a waste!
Never in the history of the many ‘civilisations’ that have evolved and fallen has it been possible to overcome that strain of abject stupidity that is apparently innate in homo sapiens. Those of the minority who understand that fact have devised myriad ways of exploiting it. Suck it up JJB. We are all following our instincts and the beacons that are the mirages of Nirvana.
That is how the Clinton borgata survives. That is how she can carry on as a candidate. Even such ugliness, deceit and falsehood can attract idiots like iron filings to a magnet. It appears to be written in the stars.
Join me in the cult of determinism. It is the only theory available to our puny mnds that makes any sort of sense, the rest is delusional. In the Great Scheme of Things aka The Great Fuck Up we can only perceive what has already occurred. The rest is one great guessing game.
Amen.
I was disappointed to see Sir Nigel Farage resign although I understand that he must be fatigued and it appears intimidated by the globalist forces and their momentum towards totalitarianism. There may have been tactical reasons for the timing. I don’t know. Noa may be able to tell us.
At a point in battle in the past, when for example as some commentaries have it the attacking Imperial Guard wavered in the final phase of the Battle of Waterloo, the commander redoubles his efforts, throws in all he has, and orders the cavalry to break the enemy’s resolve. Unlike Rupert at Naseby though, he does not lose control of the cavalry and allow them to dissipate their force.
We know that the Remainers have not given up, are regrouping, are drawing on foreign reserves. This is surely the time to attack them hard; to insist on leaving the EU NOW, or at least to give notice under Article 50 without further delay. Now is surely the time to agitate for a general election and to reform the ranks of the Brexiteers so as to move against the Remainers and rout them.
Malfleur – 14:42
The commander redoubled his efforts after the last GE, to help bring this latest victory, and now deserves to have his life back, for a while, at least.
It is not the time for attacks. It is time for the Establishment to react to the changed situation, and for us to monitor it, and make comment. The referendum result needs to be acknowledged as a milestone in British History.
We don’t need to fight yesterday’s battles, especially as the EU’s behaviour is just highlighting why we have decided to leave. (Notice the subtle use of the past tense. 🙂 )
Nigel knows buying low and selling high is the name of the game. One golden rule of good communication is, once you have made your point, shut up, until you get a reaction. Any other behaviour will lessen the impact of all that you worked for.
Stephen Maybery @ 12:13
Seconded, Stephen.
The unforgivable flop of the Iraqi campaign was that the evil contained wherein wasn’t totally, fully, irrevocably destroyed, the invading allied troops should have eradicated the forces of darkness either by killing or capturing them (then have a go at converting the captured to normality, if possible, or keeping them under lock and key forever). We did neither, suffer from it still.
The ghastly Blair destruction of our the way of life is unforgivable, for this he should be brought to justice, hopefully will be.
Stephen Mayberry (12:13)
J’accord.
Noa.
Saddam Hussein was becoming increasingly megalomaniac. At that time he needed to be taken out. Stalinist and Satanic. It was the aftermath that was was mishandled. Blair was a poodle, The neocons would have done it anyway.
Stephen is right: what Blair and his crew did domestically to this country was the biggest crime. From that we will never recover and he’s lined his internationalist pockets as a result.
Now Jeremy Corbyn is apologising for the Iraq war. Another inept weasel of a bandwaggoner. What despicable cowards and chancers are these douchebags of Westminster. Of every stripe. As for the sackcloth and ashes? More grist to the enemy’s mill. And the enemy is Islam, aided and abetted by the Louche Left.
Scorn, scorn and more scorn!
This letter is getting an exposure on other blogs. If true, it may be harder for the sobbing Remainders to interfere with the will of the ‘healthy core of Englishness’.
“Mishcon’s proposed challenge is devoid of all legal merit. As a matter of law, giving of notification under Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union is a matter of Crown prerogative. No Act or other parliamentary approval is required before this is done. In the European Union Act 2011, Parliament has chosen to require parliamentary approval before ministers are allowed to take certain actions under the European treaties, but notably has not extended any such restrictions to Article 50. Any argument that there is an implied restriction is therefore quite hopeless.
As a matter of constitutional and political authority, the decision of the British people in a national referendum authorised by Act of Parliament not merely permits but mandates the giving of notice, without the need for any vote by Parliament. It is deeply objectionable but sadly not unexpected that those who suffer from a deep-rooted contempt for democracy should resort to legal antics of this kind in an attempt to frustrate the democratic decision of the British people.”
Martin Howe QC
Chairman
Lawyers for Britain
Both the House and the Senate are now under Republican control. If after they’ve grilled the FBI man, they come to the view he was wrong letting the Clinton woman off, should they not instigate charges against her?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/06/hill-to-grill-fbi-director-over-hillary-clinton-whitewash/
Noa @ 14:14
Frank at 17.21 has a point, Noa, the invasion of Iraq wasn’t initially just a matter for Bush and the ghastly Blair, the UN was on the act, too. The outfit may be corrupt, but the view taken by the majority of countries was that Saddam’s regime was a menace to both his own people, countries neighbouring with Iraq. He gassed the Kurds (Halabja), he invaded Kuwait, there was no telling whether he could engineered similar acts in the future.
That’s a very interesting letter, Baron. Thank you.
My fear is that the Left wing lawyers will still try to derail Brexit.
The big blindside is Sharia May. All she has to do is get the crown, after which the markets will be rigged to tailspin and she will say this: ‘We are out of time to do this right now and the world is in a very different state to when it was on June 23rd.’
She will not say this herself. What she will do is create a poison chalice of Minister For Brexit and drive a stake through the heart of one of her political enemies (perhaps Gove) as they find they cannot deliver. She will set that minister up as a lightning rod for all the blame and say it is nothing to do with me.
I seem to recall she has history in hiding behind the sofa.
I pointed-out else-where that the accused at Nurenberg were convicted of conspiring to commit a war of aggression;including Hesse who most of the time was detained in Britain.
Somebody responded that this was so,and this is contained in the remit of the International Criminal Court;but with the provision it will only come into force when the concept has been legally defined;which it has not.
This is from Noa’s Hitchens link above. He details all the desperate attempts to now derail Brexit by the BBC left-wing cabals of lawyers and shady businessmen, but also the most important stealth derailer:
‘Others have also made sure that the crisis does not go to waste. I had suspected that a sort of stage-managed crisis would be inflicted on us by the markets, and so it has been. No doubt they have done reasonably well out of it, though most of the falls and rises have no objective cause.
‘I note that the Chancellor who has now abandoned his ludicrous and impossible commitment to balance the national books, and the currency markets who have seized the chance to achieve at least part of the long-awaited devaluation of sterling, which I have long predicted.’
They are doing the usual Rahm Emmanuel: Never let a crisis go to waste. The Treasury is using the poll as an excuse to print even more money. And the European markets intend to scare little investors senseless with big equity falls.
It’s the equivalent of smoking us out from our trenches. As well, of course, as giving Sharia May covering fire.
All she has to say is: ‘Look, this has got to stop. So let’s stop Brexit. There I’ve fixed it.’
Baron, Frank
I’m amazed you bought the neo con narrative, hook, lie and sinker.
A post GW1 Iraq was of no external threat, it’s invasion and sack by Bush and Blair foreseeably unleashed, inter alia, geonocide, the de-stabalisation of Syria, the growth of Iran and accelerated the rise of militant Sunni Islam.
As to Corbyn, I’ve no time for the man’s politics but I entirely agree that he has apologised for the hell uncaringly unleashed by Bush and Blair, including the present existential migrat threat to Western civilisation.
Baron – re
“As a matter of constitutional and political authority, the decision of the British people in a national referendum authorised by Act of Parliament not merely permits but mandates the giving of notice, without the need for any vote by Parliament…
Did the letter provide any sources for this argument?
I have nothing but sympathy for the families of those who died in Iraq. In the end, they were all betrayed. I think although there was a case to be made for this war, had the focus been on imposing order and not oil contracts their sacrifice may have been worth it.
As the evil Henry Kissinger put it when he wrote his playbook: ‘Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.’
Blair should hand his millions to those families. In the end, they died thinking they were fighting for a cause that was non-existent. They were not there to die for Halliburton.
We would all have viewed that war differently had Halliburton et al not exploited it. It was a war that needed moral authority and it has been stripped of that a long time ago.
Baron
The Halabja massacre occured in March 1988 and was one of the pretexts for GW1, not 11.
As to UN ‘concerns’ of the time, these were of course manipulated by the same key members of the Security Council that were pushing for war, against the demonstrable evidence provided by Hans Blik that there were no WMD.
GW11 set the dangerous foreign policy precedent that the subjective moral superiority of one set of militarily superior governments, should have both the right and the duty to invade the country of any other; subject to their being able to get away with it.
No attacks have been launched on, to pick one example, the ruthless Peoples Republic of China to safe guard the Nepalese or the Sighers. I can’t think why, unless realpolitik does apply when your ideological enemy can hurt you back.
Noa – 18:25
The neocons were upfront about it. PNAC!
Blair and Campbell would have lost their jobs “in less than 45 minutes” had they not won the vote for war in parliament. How anybody can doubt that those con men par excellence didn’t conspire to fabricate the evidence of WMD as a “convincer” to dupe parliament is beyond me.
If I remember correctly their “sexed up” dossier cost Rod Liddle and Andrew Gilligan their jobs, and Dr. David Kelly his life.
Blair deserves an Oscar for his performance in front of the TV cameras today.
The fact that he can deliver his lines convincingly (he’s had enough time to convince himself!) doesn’t make them true.
I am not sure about Jeremy Corbyn’s grandstanding today (or that of many other political figures).
The plain fact is this. We had 5,000 killed on 9/11. We had 7/7. We had Lee Rigby’s head cut off in South London (an act very much hushed up after the event). We have had events across Europe, notably those in Paris at the Bataclan and so on just recently.
Something must be done. I am prepared to accept this was a misguided war but only by those who would say what they would otherwise do. Mr Corbyn’s answer is more appeasement. I say no.
I say Mr Trump has it right and that borders should be closed and jihadists barred and removed. Sanctimony is not enough. Huston, we have a problem. It’s called jihad. And we want out.
The plain fact is that jihad and risk of decapitation is a price multi-nationals think is worth paying for their profits. To them, we are all just expendable grunts, to use Henry Kissinger’s description.
All Corbyn proposes is more of the same. We’ve had enough. Let’s admit the war was a failure, but let’s not shy away from the other side of this equation. If that didn’t work, it’s time to close the border to jihadists and deport them, en masse if necessary.
We can’t go on like this.
EC
Ah yes, Parliament, the shepherd and his sheep. There is still much guilt in the Commons, on both Conservative and Labour benches.
It must stick in their collective craw to have the likes of Corbyn to remind them of their collective moral cowardice, stupidity and sheer lack of common sense.
Thick, smug, arrogant bastards all, who have made life in the West considerably more dangerous for us all through their hubris.
If there is a hell, and as a Roman Catholic convert Antony Blair believes there is, his place in it is assured, subject to true repentance and the forgiveness of God.
I detected no sign of repentance in his evasions and self deceptions today.
Perhaps though, like Marlow’s Mephistophiles he is already in Hell.
Noa
“Perhaps like Marlow’s Mephistophiles he is already in Hell.”
Aren’t we all? It’s just that he has more to spend on chestnuts than most of the rest of us. 🙂
What makes you think I fell for it, vis a vis the neocons? I took a PERSONAL dislike to Saddam; he needed to be kilt. I just wish someone had done it quickly and quietly pour encourager les autres. Monsters eventually have to be slain; best it’s done before they take over swathes of territory, which he undoubtedly intended to do. His agents were global, many based in Eire. He was takIng the piss and like all piss-taking crooks, which is what he was, with a nepotistic mafia, a whacking was in order. He was also funding subversion. You must know that.
The neocons will always find a way of feeding the MIC. I have no illusions about that; neither I am sure, have you.
I still think Blair’s damage to our constitution was worse than the Iraq debacle. But, then I’m a dyed in the wool royalist and you’re a republican, so we are unlikely to compromise on that, are we? The nearest I ever got to being a republican was when I foolishly became a publican and that immunised me against anything with the ‘ublican component. 🙂
As we keep watching political fortunes turn on a sixpence, I muse this, why did Corbyn not keep his anti-EU stance?
If he had, he would have stood up in front of MPs today and said: ‘I was consistent on the EU for my entire career – 30 odd years plus – I was consistent on Iraq my whole career – 13 years plus’ he would be the only consistent political leader in the Western hemisphere and would have washed away all that has been said about him in the Press since he became leader.
Blair may well have been too pliable, but so is Corbyn. What I don’t get is why he dropped the anti-EU position. It really shows how much they rely on the EU to force us to do things against our will and then say, there’s nothing we can do about it. It’s EU rules.
Yes, Corbyn, Blair messed up and the bodybags came home. But you messed up too and people’s decapitated heads are picked up off of South London streets. If it were not for the free movement of people, they – and their ilk – would not be in the West.
As much as I feel sorry for the bereaved families of Iraq (they deserve as much pity as we have and as much compensation as Blair’s pockets are deep), we are still in this war. It’s everywhere.
It has been fought over centuries and it has reared its head in Europe again, after a lull of centuries, thanks to the free movement of people. The EU’s attempt to halt sovereign wars has led to terrorist wars. Those – like Corbyn – who advocate a federal Europe have blood on their hands too.
We are not better people for scraping up the bodyparts of our compatriots off the ground at home. If this couldn’t be settled abroad (and Corbyn is firm enough about that) then where will it be settled if not domestically in Europe and America? Are people to just walk about being raped in Rotherham and beheaded in South London?
The fact that the UK is days away from electing a prime minister who wants to impose Sharia Law is the disgrace we can at least stop. We can’t raise the dead. Would that we could.
But we can stop future bloodshed, future Rotherhams by barring jihadists and banning Sharia law (a tool to achieve political and social dominance).
All that the Corbynistas and the May-ites want is more blood. And on our doorstep – so long as it isn’t theirs.
The sanctimony would be comical were it not so lethally serious.
The politicians got away with murder with Lee Rigby’s death and now they want more. How dare Jeremy Corbyn lecture us about the screams of British soldiers dying in Iraq when he covers his ears to the screams of the victims of Rotherham, the screams of those echoing down the tube tunnels on 7/7 and the screams of Lee Rigby as his head was hacked off. For heaven’s sake.
Who’s next, Jeremy? One of us. The man is a total disgrace.
There is a book on my bookshelf. It is one of many that sets out a strategy on how to deal with jihad. It is written in the coolest of cool language. By which I mean tone, not hipness. But its message is unmistakable. The writer gets it. This is blood, this is war, this is serious. And it is global. And we should not submit.
I am paraphrasing, of course, but I believe I do not misrepresent.
The name of that book is Celsius 7/7. The person who wrote it is Michael Gove. That is why the Left hate him and why The Guardian and BBC pine for a Sharia May to rule us all.
Were he elected prime minister he may fail us all. But that’s actus rea – the action itself. Perhaps he cannot acquit himself on that.
When we talk about mens rea – state of mind – well, Mrs May and Mr Gove have both laid their cards on the table on this one. Not only does she have a catalogue of disgraceful and demonstrable failure but she has laid down her state of mind: We must submit to the Sharia. It will, she wickedly tells us, ‘greatly benefit’ us.
Mr Gove may not be superman. The task may be beyond him. But you don’t write a book like Celsius 7/7 without meaning it. He wrote it almost a decade ago, while not in office.
You have laid your cards on the table, Mrs May, although cardsharp that you are, you are trying to remove from plain sight your losing Remainiac hand of cards. Her fakeness oozes from every breath she takes.
You were a Remainer, Theresa. I know the Press have forgotten for you, but we haven’t.
Mr Gove put his cards on the table to Leave. And on the jihad, he has put his cards on the table about that too.
I think that makes the choice an easy one. Or am I missing something here?
Noa
July 6th, 2016 – 18:41
You asked Baron –
“As a matter of constitutional and political authority, the decision of the British people in a national referendum authorised by Act of Parliament not merely permits but mandates the giving of notice, without the need for any vote by Parliament…
Did the letter provide any sources for this argument?”
I have no idea whether the letter provided any sources for the argument, but I in turn ask – are there any sources against the letter’s argument?
However, I agree with this paragraph in the letter –
“As a matter of law, giving of notification under Article 50 of the Treaty on European Union is a matter of Crown prerogative. No Act or other parliamentary approval is required before this is done. In the European Union Act 2011, Parliament has chosen to require parliamentary approval before ministers are allowed to take certain actions under the European treaties, but notably has not extended any such restrictions to Article 50.”
The crucial question (it seems to me) is what effect the referendum had. When the Cabinet decided to hold the referendum did it thereby intend to delegate the Prerogative power to invoke Article 50 to the electorate? I do not know of any precedent either way. However, I argue that the intention to delegate it to the people was abundantly clear. I argue that the voters have, equally clearly, exercised the prerogative and have invoked Article 50. Fait accompli.
Just as the arguments to Leave were clear-cut and the arguments to Remain were ether (we belong together, we’re stronger together, our future is together – and other such soft talking, fen straddling, cream puff pie platitudes), it strikes me that Martin Howe QC is right about the result.
The people have spoken. It was democracy. The prime minister, appearing on his final referendum BBC Question Time, presented by a fawning Dimblebore, shrieked at the electorate that it was ‘irreversible’.
You’re damn right, for once, Dave. And it was probably that line that boosted the turnout so high. Just for once we’d be taken notice of. And what a joy to break the jaw of the Establishment. I wish we could do it every election time.
There is never-ending joy in watching them hold their mouth. Go on. You’re not so gobby now, are you?
Anything less than Leave is what is illegal. That is why there is endless scrabbling to derail. I don’t doubt that the derailing will happen but the point is this: Finally and at long last they will have shown their true colours to the electorate. The whole LibLabCon car crash and all their Common Purpose foot soldiers in the judiciary, civil service, NGOs and so on despise democracy and now they can’t deny it. New political parties, please.
The intention to delegate it to the people was indeed abundantly clear.
It’s going to take one more blow to floor this opponent. It’s going to need one more country to leave the EU to put the whole thing out on the ground. We can’t do it in one blow because they will kick and kick the can and try to kick it into the long grass.
But the EU will not survive. No empire ever does. No knockout blow. But we broke their jaw. We’ve smacked them so hard they don’t know what way to turn. A re-run. A Parliamentary over-rule. A legal derailing. Little EU stars flashing before their eyes.
Just one more smack and I believe that’s it. We’ve done our bit. It needs one more and at that stage the confidence will go in the currency, people will re-issue their own and the whole spiteful project is over.
Keep clinging on to that broken jaw. It’s a pleasure to watch you spin. And if Sharia May thinks she can fix it all, I can find her a really strong woman who doesn’t change her mind with the weather: Marine Le Pen.
A Gallic handbagging for the EU and it’s curtains.
One thing I want smashed to pieces when it all breaks up is those EU bureaucrat pensions. I want these people left penniless as the people they shoved on to the streets of Athens. That is the human cost of their sanctimony. That and people like Lee Rigby.
The ordinary people didn’t deserve this. Did the diddums politician get a headache? Awwww.
Frank 21.12
Getting to the point of it there, Frank.
There was no reason why you or I should like him, but then, he wasn’t our leader. If we can’t or won’t, no longer being so inclined, bump off our own psychopathic leaders, surely we have even less justification for deleting someone else’s?
Wasr unleash the law of unintended consequences. Saddam’s was probably the most expensively purchased funeral (cost $250 billion-$1.5 trillion depending on your accountant), in history, and is leading to the destruction of the Christian West. Was it worth it all to hang him?
Especially when it invites the same sort of action to be taken against us, when we aren’t popular, by the EU, the US, China, India, IS or whoever.
And Blair did add the death blow to our rattling corpse of a constitution, though the checks and balances between Sovereign, Commons and Lords had already been traduced and Erskine May chucked out the window long before him, in 1906. The Sovereign’s ultimate guardianship, exercised through what remains of the Royal Prerogatives to which Herbert refers in his post, are now chimeras. Not that it was something that concerned Cameron and crew though.
Engels, it seems, was right after all, with socialism having achieved its aims the state has withered away, almost. And we are left with 630 battery hens in the Westminster Coop (Coup?), controlled by the remaining 20, as if by the flick of a switch. The constitutional checks and balances, if they ever really existed, except by consent, have gone. Royalist or republican, it doesn’t matter, the reins of power are now firmly in the hands of a new hereditary elite who live and thrive, like yeast, on the turbulence and ferment generated below them.
Herbert Thornton 23.13
I do like the argument you adduce for the Royal Prerogative, though I fear it will be exercised more by its avoidance than in its practice.
I find the announcement of an EU referendum in Hungary very revealing for the fact that it is not causing shockwaves. This is because under prime minister Viktor Orban Hungary has been de facto outside of the EU despite being in it for ages.
Orban has built a razor wire fence to keep out immigrants. But more tellingly, he refuses to allow state assets to be sold off to private hands in the way that the UK has sold off its state assets. This sort of thing is only to be accelerated under TTIP.
I don’t think anyone doubts Hungary will vote out but because – in effect – it stopped being in ages ago it has been out for ages. Orban is the hero of the EU age. He just tells the EU no and then tells his people why.
That’s one Out vote that won’t surprise anyone. What we need is a France, a Spain or an Italy to finish the job. Italy might do it first with its broken banks. Mario Draghi is basically out of options. There’s only so much trash he can buy.
If we can just get investors to lose confidence in the euro as a currency – and I believe we will – there won’t be a need for any more referendums. The scramble for the exit will be a stampede. I want Merkel and Juncker and – my new best enemy – May all ruined by it.
As so often, Hitchens has (or had) a view on Iraq and the ‘Blair Creature’.
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/?ico=columnists%5Eeditors_choice
Hitchens can acquit himself, but the rest of Fleet Street talked the UK into Iraq. He is right to say I told you so.
It was presented as the answer to our fears over Islamic terror. If Saddam had stayed, terrorists could have been incubated. Terrorists need schooling and coaching and funding. Rogue states can provide that.
Saudi Arabia provides it too. The hypocrisy here is that that is not the country the West bombed. Why not? Saudi funds terror.
Yes, Iraq was misplaced, but terror has a fount and it is in that part of the world that it comes from.
This is why I bristle with rage about Sharia May. She has turned the UK into a Big Brother state, where we are all watched over so that we can be branded ‘extremist’ for objecting to the UK government and the jihadists it sponsors.
Look at this story – neatly forgotten as Sharia May prepare for prime ministerhood:
Government under fire over ‘murky’ secret security deal with Saudi Arabia
THE Government has come under fire for refusing to reveal details of a secret security deal with Saudi Arabia.
By Greg Heffer, Political Reporter
‘In March last year Home Secretary Theresa May signed a memorandum of understanding (MoU) with the hardline kingdom’s interior minister, Crown Prince Muhammad bin Nayef.
‘No details of the Tory minister’s trip or even the existence of a deal were revealed until a year later, when they were buried in a Foreign Office report on the wealthy Middle East state.’
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/629041/Theresa-May-Saudi-Arabia-secret-deal-interior-ministry-human-rights-UK
She signed a ruddy arms deal with Saudi Arabia, the world’s biggest sponsor of Islamic terror. She’s covered it up and now she wants to be the prime minister.
The Iraq war and the reasons for it are as red hot today as they were in 2003. But still we get it wrong. We were duped into going after Saddam because he was poor. Saudi had a huge part in 9/11 but excused itself because it sells oil and buys British arms.
Hitchens: ‘Their [Western leaders] anti-extremist rhetoric, turned up full when confronting Birmingham schoolteachers or bearded preachers, drops to a whisper when they want to sell weapons to Saudi Arabia, the home of Islamist fanaticism.’
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2015/10/which-side-are-we-really-on-in-this-war-of-the-awful-against-the-evil.html
Hitchens: ‘The USA’s only real special relationship is with Saudi Arabia, a 70-year-old hard pact of oil, money and power, welded together with such cynicism it ought to make us gasp.’
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/04/america-isnt-our-special-friend-it-ruined-our-navy-empire-and-future.html
Financial Times (hard to believe they admit this) on Sharia May’s appeasement of Saudi Arabia
So it would seem that there is something in the MoU — “something so nasty in the woodshed” so to speak — that its disclosure would not only damage the UK’s relationship with the Saudis but have the potential for wider harm.
This is remarkable. This MoU is not (supposedly) about defence and intelligence; it is (we are told) about judicial relationships and human rights: the very things that should be transparent as a basic principle.
http://blogs.ft.com/david-allen-green/2015/10/12/hidden-agreements-on-justice-and-policing-uks-appeasement-of-saudi-arabia/
Ministers urged to publish secret memo on ‘shady’ deal with Saudi Arabia that officials are hiding to protect ‘national security’
Lib Dem FOI rejected to protect Britain’s relationship with Saudi Arabia
Officials admit the document does exist but refuse to publish its contents
Theresa May signed the secret deal on a visit to the Kingdom last year
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3371859/Ministers-urged-publish-secret-memo-shady-deal-Saudi-Arabia-officials-hiding-protect-national-security.html
Sharia May basically got down on all fours in her infamous xxxx me shoes and – metaphorically – fellated the world’s number one sponsor of Islamic terror. Yuk.
In the same story we learn:
‘Earlier this year, Justice Secretary Michael Gove cancelled a contract between Britain and Saudi Arabia to over advice on running prisons.’
So he told them to xxxx off.
Funny how the mainstream media have forgotten all this. If you’ve read Celsius 7/7 Michael Gove telling Saudi Arabia to xxxx off won’t surprise you one bit.
Richard North and Iraq
http://eureferendum.com/Default.aspx
Noa – 00:24
Yes, I note that the murderous Robert Gabriel Mugabe is still in charge of what’s left of “Zimbabwe”.
Theresa is now boasting that Jean-Claude Juncker will find out what a ‘bloody difficult woman’ she is! Ho, ho, ho, Theresa. You’re quite the tough cookie aren’t you?
Having sold the UK out to Saudi Arabia in two seconds flat (and hiding behind the sofa again while she did so – just like her Remain campaign), why she’ll be standing up for Britain in no time at all if she says so.
All those years selling the UK out and now we just take your word for it Theresa that – for the first time ever – you’ll protect the UK.
She is morally vacuous.
What May is relying on is not having to go into usual public forums of cross-examination such as difficult TV interviews.
Party leadership contests are all about mood music and not substance. All she needs to do is keep getting photographed by Paul Dacre and talk about her cook book collection, going to church (inshallah, what for? to spy for the Saudis, the better to help them break our spines in two?), and to keep getting photos in the Mail of all her soft furnishings at Sonning on Thames.
It’s just like her Remain campaign. There isn’t one syllable of substance to this woman.
Col Kemp asking the question we all know the answer to…
RICHARD KEMP @COLRICHARDKEMP 1 minute ago
“Why does much of the media now refer not to Christmas but to the “festive season” yet to “the holy month of ramadan” and “the holy month”?”
Inshallah they will tell us of their double standards.
The clue is in the way John Simpson and Nicky Campbell casually drop the word inshallah into their broadcasts.
FROM THE VAULTS
ee bah goom, and ecky thump!
http://courtnewsuk.co.uk/what-do-you-call-a-man-with-a-fire-extinguisher-up-his-backside-3/
Notwithstanding Lenny Henry, I always thought that Premier Inns had a slightly better class of customer than Travelodge, but now I’m not quite so sure!
Costa mum, July 4th, 2016 – 13:11
Don’t go to the Spectatesman now, but it used Patek Phillipe watches!
EC (10:20)
A reformed arsonist? Or just a fiery enema of Islam?
When he least needs it he gets too busy to even read your postings at (“not a day for soundbites ….”) a juncture of history that happens once in one’s lifetime.
Superb postings, on Iraq, the ghastly Blair, the sharia May, the lot, you cannot imagine how much Baron regrets he cannot spend time joining in.
Costa mum, you sir, are a star, where have you been hiding till now? (Btw, the Hungarian replica of our vote on the 23rd is about immigrant quotas, whether the country should get her share of the immigrant largesse Mutti let in (will continue to let in) in her moments of verifiable loopiness, the guy Orban doesn’t want to leave the EU yet (he’s smart, Hungary’s still a net receiver of EU money).
RobertRetyred @ July 6th – 15:48
The question is begged though whether there has been a victory – yet. Comments above demonstrate that people are not sure how Article 50 is to be implemented. Is it quod est demonstrandum by virtue of the referendum vote itself? Does it require a vote in the House of Commons? Is it Crown prerogative, whatever that is nowadays? Or should some representative of the people crawl before Herr Junker holding up a scroll encapsulating the people’s decision for his beneficent eye? Or should a general election have been called as soon as the result of the referendum was announced?
Lots of wiggle room for the Remainers then. And that’s just the trigger for Article 50 with two long years of wrangling, backtracking, bribes, treachery, weasel wordery, putting down of feet, threats, general elections, second thoughts, and crises of all kinds artificial and natural, foreign and domestic.
And no one in the saddle at UKIP to lead the charge that breaks the wavering ranks of the Remainers and puts the field and the day ours beyond doubt.
I would have liked him to have stayed on a little longer. I hope he will still speak out as a de facto leader.
Quite so EC. They don’t know how to monetise these websites. Private Eye has run articles on this. The Telegraph sells its ad spaces to high-end fashion but its readers are mainly John Lewis customers who don’t go in for high-end expensive fashion. They may be better off than most but I don’t think they like to overspend.
Patek Phillipe watches suggests the Spectator has sold its ad spaces on the same premise: the readership is monied. I would imagine not that many of them are to be honest.
What The Spectator and Guido are guilty of with these gambling websites is first, breaking any claim to journalistic independence every time they talk about betting odds in copy (why talk about bookies’ odds if not to please advertisers?) and second, making it look to readers that because they are niche websites somehow they have the inside track on gambling. They clearly don’t.
There is no such thing as responsible gambling.
Similarly, there is no such thing as a responsible gambling advertising. Gambling stains everything it touches, including reporters’ copy when they cite bookies odds as some sort of useful barometer of public opinion. Bookies are not quite as devious as pollsters but they are spivs of the same tribe. It’s all about creating a false buzz.
It’s the same with the gambling sponsorship of football. It taints a family pastime. The excitement of sport as a pastime should not be amplified into gambling in the way it has to the detriment of much of the poorer parts of the UK.
The Spectator makes a big song and dance about how most of its entire archive is online. But there was one writer who used to write in that publication: ‘There is no such thing as responsible gambling’ and – much as I would like to read her Spectator archive, her entire Spectator blogpost oeuvre has been pulled from the internet faster than a Daily Telegraph article criticising Theresa May.
The name of the writer? Melanie Phillips!!
Truth hurts at The Spectator!
Loretta Lynch Communist Obama’s Attorney General has just said that all charges against Crooked Hillary have been dropped.
Well what do you know?
It is no coincidence that Lynch met Bill Clinton last week, then Comey’s said Crooked Hillary did nothing wrong, then Lynch lets the crooked snake off.
We are coming up to the date of Monica Lewinsky’s Grand Jury testimony.
There are those over here who say that Loretta Lynch was at the same game with Bill last week.
You bastards.
You are reneging on your joint commitment as damage limitation—
“The Americans weren’t genuine about it – but the prime minister was genuine about it – because he thought there was a chance that Saddam could be made to back down before we had to use military force.
“And George Bush for a while agreed with him. But other people behind George Bush didn’t agree with him and thought it was a waste of time.”
General Tim Cross – the most senior British officer involved in planning the war – said former US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld would not listen either to the UN or the UK about the aftermath of the invasion.
He said the US had dismantled the Iraqi army and the ruling Ba’ath party without consultation.
The US administrator to Iraq at the time, Paul Bremer, told the BBC:
“That particular decision was approved by the president of the United States, the secretary of defence, by the joint chiefs of staff of the United States.”
John Jeffersin Burns
“…Comey’s said Crooked Hillary did nothing wrong…”
No; in fact Comet went through a catalogue of her crimes and acts of criminal negligence.
He then said said “…our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case…”.
His unspoken subtext was that none of the prosecutors involved in the FBI investigation would reasonably indict Clinton unless he wished to be found dead with a pillow over his face.
Is that fat lady going to sing?
‘Marco [Rubio] makes his mark: Leads formal GOP Senate push to strip Hillary of security clearance’
“http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/7/gop-petitions-state-dept-cancel-clinton-aides-secu/”
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/7/gop-petitions-state-dept-cancel-clinton-aides-secu/
Pat Condell’s latest…
Telling Generation Snowflake a few home truths!
“We Saved Our Democracy”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THWPJE4xaJM
Bigot, n. One who is obstinately and zealously attached to an opinion that you do not entertain.
Ambrose Bierce, “The Enlarged Devil’s Dictionary”
Grope-think.
http://www.alexanderboot.com/whats-a-gang-raped-woman-to-do/
So, in the final of the competition it’s the dark horse Andrea against the saintly sharia Teresa.
Hard to say which is better to get sacrificed, and voted out in a general election before the country finally disengages from the Brussels yoke for Baron reckons after the final agreement emerges there will be an election, whoever’s in charge between now and then will be toast.
Noa @ 16:12
Pathetic, counter-productive, unhelpful, Noa, but instructive for she isn’t alone behaving in that PC manner, many German papers are beginning to tell similar stories.
It may be overdoing it, no comparison is eve r perfect, but in the last days of the Reich, it was the youngest who fought the longest, most bravely (read stupidly), many committing suicide rather than surrendering.
There weren’t many takers when Baron suggested we may co-exist with the German’s EU (for it is that rather the EU’s Germany) legally, but not genetically. Not all, but many of them do get obsessively fanatical of the idea pumped into them, they become heretics as per T. S. Eliot’s definition of a heretic as ‘someone who seizes upon a truth and pushes it to the point at which it becomes a falsehood’.
Still, it’s the past for us, we’re out, aren’t we?
Peter Hitchens always said a referendum was a trap he would not walk into and the final two of Leadsom and May shows he was right.
Leadsom is too inexperienced to ever win over Tory party members (even if other voters like her) and being a novice she can be leant on if need be.
May’s track record tell you everything you need to know about her. She will bite and scratch her last to stop Brexit taking place.
Essentially, Paul Dacre has got rid of UKIP with this referendum and now is helping the Establishment close ranks again by supporting Theresa May with unequivocal and unprecedented adulation from the moment she announced she was running.
There will be no Brexit under May. That’s guaranteed.
It will take people a while to realise this but when they do, I hope they never vote Tory again an that they realise they need another political party, whether it be UKIP or another.
I am surprised Gove didn’t make the final cut because Murdoch wanted real competition for May. Leadsom will be too inexperienced to take on the Dacre machine.
So there we go. Westminster let Brexit last all of two weeks. From here, it’s just a slow inexorable railroading back into the EU. They hate democracy in Westminster, especially after what happened on 23 June.
But I don’t want to be ruled by a woman.
Leaders? I’ve shit ’em!
Baron – 17:03
One of the finalists has cold, dead lifeless eyes. The other shows signs of life.
Only members get a say in it now. The rest of us have to console ourselves in the knowledge that the next PM isn’t going to be Soubry.
Well at least there is a plethora of ammunition for lampooning.
EC @ 14:37
DC (delightfully correct) rather than PC, thanks for posting it, EC.
Something similar should have been said by Nigel when he waving good-bye to the apparatchiks of Brussels, not that many would have agreed, even thought about what they heard, but it would have received a wide coverage, wider than the great Pat can hope for.
Btw, some who voted to remain are beginning to argue that there indeed is (has been) a democratic deficit in the way the EU decision making machinery has been set-up, but that the law making process is both checked by people who were elected e.g. the boy, Mutti, but also that those making the decisions in the EU bureaucracy are benevolent, disposed favourably to the needs of the people (surveys polls), almost magnanimously altruistic.
The latter supposition may be questionable viz. the EU meddling in uKraine, but even if true, if that danger arose, is there anything in the undemocratic construct, which would prevent a bunch of extremists of any political orientation taking over, installing a dictatorship not unakin to what (say) the nations of Eastern Europe suffered under communism?
Malfleur – 12:03
ConHome has some reasonable responses:
Article 50 does not need a HoC vote, but the eventual agreement does.
That may take ages, but WTO rules won’t be any worse than what we have now and many countries are keen to do deals.
We will claim our place, or keep our place, at all world orgs: IMF, WTO, UN, etc
We need to control movement of people, especially as EU are in the process of withdrawing free movement themselves 🙂
We need a points system to regulate immigration, to suit us.
EU nationals resident in UK on June 23, 2016, can stay, (unless they have been VERY naughty, perhaps 🙂 )
I gather negotiations can continue after two years; it is that after two years we are out, with no need to obey Brussels.
My point is that, no matter how much procrastination occurs, the vote result will stand as evidence of the people’s choice. I hope, however, it won’t come to that.
Also, there appears to be an assumption that everything needs to be set in stone and then becomes unchangeable. The whole point is that deals can be made in the short term and then improved later, after more understanding between the participating nations. We don’t have to ask Brussels every time. In fact, we only need to talk to them when trading with Belgium, and any other supine EU province.
Costa mum @ 17:18
Who knows what the future is?
We may indeed end up in the EU again, the barbarian doubts it though, the Germans have had enough of us, they figured that our remaining in their outfit, (for it’s theirs, no doubt about it, they fund it), would continue to cause nothing but headache because this country would keep on breeding UKIP type of MEPs, and MPs that are opposed to it, PMs unable to reconcile the wishes of the unwashed with the orders issued by their (German) puppets in Brussels. Not something they could use in the drive towards federal Europe under their leadership.
It’s more likely we end up somewhere in between independence and the bureaucracy, but one hopes not.
Malfleur – 12:03
I can’t see what more NF can do as leader as he has reached his goal. He will still be noticed. I don’t think he will be idle, but he won’t be at the beck and call of the media, having to respond to every problem they find. I also think that getting a new leader will allow the party to shape their own future, while the other two parties do the same. It will also neutralise some of the malcontents. 🙂
NF needs to recharge his batteries, allow others some room, network with those on the Continent and in Whitehall. UKIP could do with a few more seasoned veterans able to work in in the back ground, and he is still an MEP.
huktra – 17:22
“But I don’t want to be ruled by a woman”
You mean governed.
We have been ruled by a woman since 1952.
Baron 17.17
The woman has experienced harsh reality for the first time in her life; experienced stages one and two of the Hegelian dialectic; the fundamental liberal beliefs inculcated into her have been challenged. Her initial reaction is to rationalise it. Hopefully, she will move from antithesis to synthesis.
In her case that will probably to find a Pakistani ponce and work in a Hamburg bordello. In mine it would be to acquire a gun and blow the bastards’ balls off.
Let’s hope for Europe’s sake that the latter approach proves more popular.
Why should he stress the two finalists are women? Why should it matter to anyone (except for huktra, of course)? We had Margaret, and it was fine, we had Brown, and it was disastrous. Surely, it’s the individual’s take on life, his or her qualities as a leader, what he or she stands for that matters, no?
The festering blob of political correctness seems to have reached so deep to eradicate it may be beyond us.
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/gove-gone-tories-must-now-choose-experience-brexiteer/?_ga=1.267031116.331542248.1433018955
EC July 7th, 2016 – 17:26
“Baron – 17:03
One of the finalists has cold, dead lifeless eyes. The other shows signs of life…”
Has ‘Britains Got Talent’ started again?
RobertRetyred @ 18:07
What an insightful point, Robert, bravo.
Noa @ 18:13
Not bad either, Noa, your point, and the chuckle it spawned.
Neither would have been a choice for Baron, but here you go.
All we can do is hope ‘the pathetic belief in collective wisdom of individual ignorance (of the Tory membership here) will deliver an outcome we can live with before the next count comes. It won’t be long, Baron reckons.
Noa @ 18:10
The application of Hegel’s musing of one’s evolution of the thought process is fine, but your preferred solution, Noa, hmmmm.
Not only would it be rather painful, but it would also deprive the man of the one pleasure the world seems to be turning around today, no? (onlyjoking).
Baron 18.32
My mother was born and raised in rural Northern Ireland in the 1920’s. There was an incident of child rape by a known pervert.
He was visited by the girl’s male relatives at night and a parrafin blow torch used to permanently resolve the dialectic problem. The police were unable to identify the people responsible for this horrific crime.
Hitchens and mass immigration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hgn0c3Ito1k&feature=youtu.be&a
Costa mum – 17:18
Baron – 17:58
We are either an independent, sovereign nation or we are not. Either we are answerable to Brussels or we are not.
I cannot see how we can leave the EU, and then accept free movement, subject to Brussels.
We could have free movement, subject to a simple passport check for most people. It is ensuring students pay their fees and a deposit BEFORE arrival, so they leave after their course, that will change the culture. Ensure they have health insurance, and able to reject murderers from entering, that will be one step towards sanity.
Cameron promised, in that booklet delivered just before Referendum Purdah, the voters decision wishes would be carried out, and both contenders were in that Government.
If they fail, there will be more than murmurings in the shires.
I think more Remainers will realise that they were fooled, and they won’t be happy to be fooled twice.
Noa – 18:13
BGT? Given my misgivings about one of the candidates, I think that this might prove to be more the case!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd-z5wBeFTU
[ Do watch it anyway, Noa, it’s a great trailer for the fillum! ]
EC Crikey! LOVL
Frank P
What the Fox! They’ve been keeping very quiet about this!
‘He’s the Bill Cosby of media’: Gretchen Carlson’s attorney says ‘countless women have reached out to discuss Roger Ailes after sexual harassment suit including girl, 16, alleging he demanded oral sex’
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3679213/Gretchen-Carlson-s-attorney-says-10-people-reached-discuss-Roger-Ailes-Fox-News-insiders-make-allegations-CEO-s-harassing-behavior.html
More cheap shit from China.
“Analysts fear that Beijing is engaged is an undeclared policy of beggar-thy-neighbour mercantilism, trying to avert an industrial crisis at home by exporting its overcapacity in steel, shipbuilding, chemicals, plastics, paper, glass, and even solar panels, to the rest for the world.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/07/07/world-faces-deflation-shock-as-china-devalues-at-accelerating-pa/
Sharia May needs to see this:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/687443/Muslims-burn-down-homes-Egypt-church-building
Comey questioned by Gowdy – video
http://www.politico.com/blogs/james-comey-testimony/2016/07/clinton-untrue-statements-fbi-comey-225216
(h/t Drudge Report)
“FBI didn’t record Clinton interview, did not administer sworn oath”
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/286849-fbi-didnt-record-clinton-interview-no-sworn-oath
(h/t Drudge Report)
After Brexit; Down at the real Rover’s Return
LINDSEY DEARNLEY
29th June 2016 The Editor Lindsey Dearnley 2
1935: The Beating Heart of England
Few people in The Greyhound appear to have voted remain. For a small northern pub, this is not unusual. I’ve been doing the quiz here every Sunday for about fifteen years. It’s an ingrained ritual, one shared by my mother, aunts and various cousins who also appear around the same time. Many of the patrons who come here have been doing so for decades. Older, gentler working class men and women, mostly retired or steadily prospering from lifetimes of careful budgeting. We begin the evening with a drink and then out come the reading glasses and quiz pens.
‘Well what do you think of the Brexit result?’ asks a man at the bar.
‘Excellent’ says another man and they nod.’They are trying to say we regret it now.’ They both roll their eyes.’Gerr’out of it, nobody regrets it.’
These are not chavs, or racists. These are the so-called little Englanders that the precious young graduates have been warned about; stupid old white people whose pie and gravy brains couldn’t possibly know anything about the wider world they imagine themselves to be so well-versed in. The little Englanders get ready to enjoy the Quiz. Well…perhaps enjoy isn’t the right word – it’s a bit too competitive for that.
‘Which river flows from the Lebanon through Syria and Turkey to the Med?’
Whispers simmer around the tables and pens scratch away. Glittering pens, brightly coloured pens, lucky pens, the little Englanders love trivial things like quizzes and pens and belonging.
‘Ceuta is a Spanish enclave sharing a border with which country?’
There is a young couple doing the quiz tonight. I haven’t seen them before. At the end of the round, they sheepishly hand their paper over to our team to be marked ‘Sorry, we were terrible!’ The girl says. Indeed they were, the greater part of their answers were guesses.
The quiz master sits on a stool at the bar, and reads out more questions.
‘In a 2006 newspaper article, John Prescott was famously photographed playing what sport?’
My aunt scribbles an answer and folds away her glasses. As a team of women, we sadly tend to fail on sport questions. The conversation drifts back to politics between rounds, and a few of the local men join our table to discuss the state of affairs. ‘You see this graph here,’ says one of the men pulling his phone out ‘Look at what we contribute to the EU -billions! – second only to Germany; and look at the new member states – they don’t give anything at all, they take!’ The men shake their heads. ‘You can cut it this way and that, but the bottom line is, if you’re putting in more than your getting out, there’s trouble further down the line.’
Various sentiments fly round the table to describe the EU, as they have done so for years: ‘Out of control’, ‘madness’, say some people,’too power hungry, too German, imploding under too much immigration’ the general feeling is that the EU has had its day. It has simply become too much of everything. Every day the EU does something that alarms ordinary people – lets in enormous numbers of migrants from the middle east, considers Turkish membership, fills the local hotel with young Sudanese men, cripples Greece, a spectre that is often reported by those returning from holidays there. Not everybody voted Leave of course, but in these small towns the Leave vote was upwards of 65, sometimes 70%.
People feel threatened by the swelling and increasingly powerful presence of the EU. They know they are not a part of its utopia, but in its way. Ordinary people and their habitual lives have been marked with a cross for demolition, like trees waiting to be cut down and concreted over. Brexit voters merely seized the opportunity to put up a cross of their own. They voted for self-preservation, as they have every right to do so.
‘How many cantons make up Switzerland?’
One of the men puts his pint down ‘Apparently just leaving the EU doesn’t mean we will stop the migration, anyway half of it comes from outside of Europe anyway’ he says. Everybody at the table shakes their heads and frowns. The statement is not met with any accusations of racism – the problems of mass immigration are accepted as a forgone conclusion by most present and rarely debated otherwise.
A week previously, I had spoken to a scaffolder in here, and he talked of profits driven down by groups of Europeans who could live 12 to a house and share all the costs, doing work at a fraction of the price. The English men who had mortgages to pay, and wives and children to feed were simply not able to compete. ‘Don’t get me wrong’ he felt urged to say, ‘I’ve got loads of Polish mates, but the system isn’t fair, and anyway, now the Polish are set to be replaced by even more desperate people now, they aren’t impressed with that either.’ The Quiz is almost over, it’s clear we haven’t won, we never beat the team of old men, though we jokingly pretend they’ve come to steal our answers as they pull up chairs around us to continue the EU discussion.
‘We buy half of their cars, what’s Germany going to do – threaten to cut us out and sell to Lithuania instead?’ We all laugh.
Watching the Brexit scuppering of the EU was like watching the cancellation of a huge unwanted building project due to the discovery of an underground river destabilising its foundations. Those of us who have been listening to the grumble of the underground river for years were not in the least bit surprised when it geysered out at the poll booth, spraying the ballot papers with aggressively scored crosses in the out box.
‘What name is given to the notorious tidal current in the Lofoten islands off northern Norway?’
The TV in the corner has no sound, but the news is on, showing celebrities with bewildered faces stood among young pouting Londoners, far removed from the feelings and conversations of little England. It fills me with a warm glow, the thought of so many celebrities living in their own self-made echo chambers, imagining the adoring public to be hanging off their every word. The reality is satisfyingly different; Pubs of men grunting ‘My arse’ and ‘bollocks’ to the likes of Eddie Izzards pink beret, and Geldof’s self-aggrandising speeches.The quiz results are handed in, the lucky pens zipped away in handbags until next week.
Our score is not spectacular, the sports round ruined our chances, but the old men, the ‘Codgers in the Corner’ get almost a full house. The young couple came last by a mile. They were no longer present to notice however, they left before the results were called, not out of shame of defeat, but simply because they hadn’t really engaged with the whole evening in the first place, and lost interest before the night was through.
‘Bloody hopeless’ says one of the men looking at the young couples Quiz answers. ‘Look at this – what’s the capital of Romania – Budapest!’ The men laugh.
Noa @ 18:43
Hardy people, the Irish, Noa, even more a century ago than now.
What may never be known is whether any of those administering the revenge had experienced, at nights, regret, remorse or even guilt. Taking retribution into one’s own hands is not an easy burden to live with particularly if one’s a committed Christian.
One may perhaps consider a self-made reprisal if all legal attempts fail, the injustice is glaringly obvious, one’s discriminated against for whatever reason, that sort of stuff, but even then it cannot be easy to live with it on one ‘ s conscience.
It seems the community organiser who promised ‘hope and change’, and ‘change we can believe in’ and ‘together we can’ has delivered.
No need to believe in change to happen anymore, it’s there for everyone to see, it has happened, but not for the better. That ‘together we can’ has also been accomplished the people and the police together can and do kill each other, routinely, daily, no off days.
Just the hope remains, hope that in four months or so he’ll be gone, Donald’ll take over.
It’s close to inhuman to blame the police for being trigger happy if they get gunned down with impunity. The real ‘Texas massacre’ just beggars belief. Can anyone sort this out? Can Donald?
John, you around? What’s wrong with you Americans, why cannot you have a cup of tea, sit down, do a deal to stop killing each other, ha?
Don’t trust anybody who wants another referendum or says “there’s no hurry to invoke Article 50.”(Gove/May etc.)On 31st March 2017 the second part of the Lisbon Treaty will come fully into effect. Britain and the other member states will completely lose the right of Veto on many important laws which will be transferred to the European Council and made subject to Qualified Majority Voting. Up till then, member states could still request to use the previous rule for qualified majority voting. This will mean that in no fewer than 43 areas of competence our own British Parliament will no longer be able to legislate for the British people. These include:
Asylum
Border controls
Civil Protection
Common Defence
European Court of Justice
Immigration
Freedom of movement for workers
As well as the most important one —Withdrawal of a member state.
The Lisbon Treaty does include an exit clause, known as Article 50 whereby a withdrawal by a member may be negotiated and passed by the Quality Majority Voting.
So Britain’s request to withdraw from the EU could be defeated. Even if it achieved that majority of votes and were allowed to leave the EU, it could take as long as two years to do so during which time the UK would continue to be subject to EU laws but would be unable to put forward any amendments or laws itself.
Source: http://www.ukipdaily.com/the-neverending-referendum/
John birch @ 09:15
That’s the great unwashed of the ‘healthy core of Englishness’ for you, John, a pint of bitter, a quiz game down in a pub, no big arguments, long speeches, fuss, then bingo, one asks them, they make history that’ll be talked about for centuries, (apart from the small matter of regaining their freedoms, customs, independence).
Can one fail to admire them?
Baron – 09:36
Conscience? I think I read something about that, once.
EC @ 09:41
Agreed, we cannot delay indefinitely, EC, but going into it without some groundwork may be even more risky.
The Civil Service failed, it didn’t prepare for brexit, hopefully they are beavering at it, now. The Tory leadership election has diverted people’s attention from what should the key objective be in the divorce negotiations? Access to the market, or the full control of our borders, where to we compromise?
The link once more ignores the rather positive fact, the Germans don’t want us in anymore. It may change, look at Mutti’s U-turn on Turkey from ‘over my dead body’ to ‘yes, please, the sooner the better’, but as things stand the Germans want us out, and what the Germans want goes.
Baron – 10:02
The legal beagles hereabouts will tell you that the small print in any contract does actually matter!
EC (20:58)
Cue Lord Acton.
OTOH … given Fox’s high profile as the only cable channel to brief against Clinton and the fact that Gretchen was canned + the current febrile state of feminist politics, one can infer many scenarios developing here.
It must also be obvious to those applying for high profile jobs in the meeja fhat the ‘casting couch’ is still part of the recruiting criteria.
We’ll see how it plays out. But as you say, it’s surprising that nothing has leaked before about this. He certainly has the mien of of an old style Hollywood producer, which won’t help his cause. 😉
EC @ 10:23
You quite right, EC, any size of print in a contract matter, but not if it doesn’t fit what Mutti wants.
You recall the Dublin parchment, legal contract signed by all 28 members of the club including Germany, stipulating each and every refugee has to register in the first safe country he or she reaches? You also recall Mutti saying ‘ef it, let them come to me’?
You are one of the Anglo-Saxon gene pool, you respect the law, you take what it dishes out, if you dislike it, you oppose it without breaking it, not ‘everyone you’, EC, Mutti for one.
What made you two, Frank and EC, think men in powerful positions behave that differently today when it comes to sex from those 20, 40, 100, 400 …. years ago?
The only divergencies in such behaviour the barbarian can think of are that the women of today are more willing because the rewards are juicier, and the men are luckier because both the numbers and the age range available to them seem bottomless.
More to the point, the guy alleged to have misbehaved looks good, a Clooney replica if there ever was one, ha ha, ha.
Yes, there’s several scenarios there, swelling Gretchen’s payoff I imagine being at the core of most of them . It has already been seized upon by the MSM. Also, the Clintons will be grateful for anything that distracts from the extra marital activities of, and the cover ups for, the sex fiend in their midst!
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/07/media/roger-ailes-gretchen-carlson-rupert-murdoch-outlets/
When it came to avoiding the inevitable complications of female entanglements, Cary Grant was reputed to have had the right strategy: i.e. hire professional, and get a receipt! [buggered if I know how Rock Hudson handled it, though]
Just scan the piece, that’s enough, but read the postings carefully, chip in if possible:
http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/brexit-encouraged-eruption-nasty-tawdry-nativism-anyone-surprised/
Baron – 11:33
If Roger’s supply of women really had been bottomless then it might have helped!
EC
Perhaps Gretchen is on the turn. Shit happens.
You’ve seen this, have you?
The Clinton woman has difficulty figuring what’s classified and what’s not, and she wants to have her finger on the nuclear button?
http://centurylink.net/news/read/video/article/cnn-fbi_clinton_not_sophisticated_with_classified_info-cnn
Baron (16:10)
Repeat. Comey caved! Just another bent lawyer/politician. Orders from on high. Covered his ass by laying out what she should have been charged with, before pulling the “no reasonable prosecutor would indict on the available evidence”. Ludicrous contradiction. I’d like to think he’s saving the main course – a RICO Statute rap encompassing the affairs of the Clinton Foundation; on ice, pending Trump’s victory. He can then recommend prosecution of the who cabal to the new AG , Rudy G.
He’ll skin her alive. Well, WCDCW?
More likely that she and slippery Willy have the maps to all the skeletons in the cupboards and she’ll ride straight into the Oral Office on the slime. The West is about to go through a very dark era. The combination of sackcloth-andashes- and pervasive corruption is lethal. The Jihadi Junta has it tail up. And we’re about to be taken over by Menopausal Mother”s Union. Rule Shittania!
Get a supply of popcorn, in. All we can do is watch the show and guffaw maniacally. Dunno about you, but I’m in Farage mode. Fuck ’em all. Let’s smell the roses. We’ve done our bit. After watching QT last night, particularly the contribution of Ian Piss-Slop, I give up. Smug litlle shit can’t see that he and his ilk have been a major component in our cultural crash. Puckish featured little turd. Have I got news for him! P Eye was a force for good once – not after he took over.
typo alert: “whole cabal”.
Frank P @ 17:13
You at your best, Frank, what fuels this super-charged imagination of your,s and could the barbarian have a smidgen of it, please.
Why don’t you post it on one of the Spectator blogs, it would fit most of the stuff that goes there with only minor adjustments.
Indeed, Shittania rules.
(but Baron’s off to a concert).
EC @ 13:56
Clever of you, EC, how come the barbarian missed it? Vacuousness of imagination, one would guess.
Boot blags Blair, brutally:
http://www.alexanderboot.com/how-to-get-away-with-murder/
But Alex knows he’s pissing agin the wind; amorality has no conscience.
Fun to read for the rest of us, though…
Alex Jones Proposes How to Stop What the Globalists Started in Dallas on Friday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Y7TIONR7U
2nd Hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=e187694c-6281-41b0-99ba-ef24b21fbb54&feature=cards&src_vid=C8Y7TIONR7U&v=bFgLbmBSom0
3rd Hour
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOHtqI5IpWo
4th Hour
Soros and Obama and gang – more police killings in the USA – communist ideology in service of the globalist programme – civil war on the agenda?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=a4542468-a71a-4459-b217-c552524edf70&feature=cards&src_vid=NOHtqI5IpWo&v=y2_oWoyN_Dw
Frank P – 23:19
“(By all accounts, he was a few other things as well – just Google ‘Miranda’ Blair and ‘public lavatory solicitation’, see what you get.)”
Alexander Boot
GOOD GOD! How did he manage to keep that secret! I suppose it was because the “members” of all parties and the meeja were at it! They obviously closed ranks (or cheeks) to protect him!
No wonder the MSM are having a go at Andrea Leadsom!
She is, after all, a married, monogamous, heterosexual white, bible reading, church going, Christian woman, with three children!
I mean, how very dare she!
also…
“We can’t expect remorse from an amoral psychopath…”
“Amoral psychopath” (*) was the exact diagnosis my retired psych’ chum volunteered on Blair I when asked his opinion about some present/former members of the HoC.
Apparently it’s not a party political issue, and the HoC attracts more than its fair share as compared to the general population!
EC @ 09:52
Radford NG
July 4th, 2016 – 18:35
Malfleur. 4 July at 15.10
The article contains a great deal about Madeline Mcann and Tony Blair :(rightly or wrongly).
http://www.infowars.com/the-eu-a-powerhouse-pedophile-hierarchy/
Hm….
And I do not want 2 months of women cat calling.
The Times is not encouraging.
http://media.efinancialnews.com/share/media/images/2000/04/102344_c300,200,50,50,100.jpg
Hm….
The Age of Gangsters
http://i1.wp.com/phibetaiota.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/gangster-typology.jpg
Waddya gonna doo abaadit?
huktra- 12:09
The Times is lying on its front page. Leadsom never actually spoke the words that they attribute to her. The MSM want Sharia May installed. Watch while they give Leadsom and her supporters the Farage treatment! So predictable.
In other news, contrary to what The Times avers on its front page, it’s going to take me a LOT longer than three weeks to “get beach body ready.”
Malfleur – 12:03
Will take a look when I get back tonight.
NWO – The Country with the False Flag
“We are not going to spend time on Dallas, an obvious false flag. Here is what one world-class author and analyst observing from Europe says:
I heard reporters on several channels say the police had shot him, while others said the cops sent in a robot with a bomb. If they had shot him, there would be a body. A bomb eliminates the need to show a body. And, as you say, he would hardly sit still for a robot/bomb — and could easily have shot the robot out of commission. Also, I saw no video evidence of cops bodies. It would be interesting to see what they meant by “a bomb”. He was not sitting on the ground floor waiting for it. If he was up high in the building how could they send in a bomb? Maybe a mini-drone? The story is filled with bullshit.”
http://phibetaiota.net/2016/07/robert-steele-yes-dallas-is-a-false-flag/
huktra @ 12:09
What the heck have you got against women, huktra?
Not that the barbarian overflows with joy seeing the feminisation of everything (including politics), but resenting it, one cannot get very far, well, one can get nowhere, we have to make the best shot of it, no?
Malfleur @ 06:35
Only four measly hours, Malfleur, seems abit shortish?
Btw, do you do anything like a job, interrupted by few hours of sleep, or are you glued to his rants 24/7?
EC @ 09:52
Your description of Andrea is spot on, EC, as is your view that it’s the reason they’re after her, she’s normal like the 98% of us, no trace of gender fluidity, her take on gay marriage also resonates, passes for the best in our new enlightened society (keep marriage for a union between a man and a woman, let heteros have civil partnerships, too).
Baron
You have not grasped the seriousness of the situation.
Government REJECTS petition calling for second Brexit referendum
http://dailym.ai/29paH9m
Interesting times. Have we given the government what they wanted all along ?????
Malfleur @ 12:35
Explain some more, Malfleur, how exactly is it a false flag massacre?
This is not a tricky question, but a genuine one.
Is it that the lot’s been faked, the shooter, the dead cops?
Come on, that would mean five human beings leaving their families, friends going into hiding. The shooter would be easier to turn into make-believe, but even had he been dispatched with bomb there must be few bits of him left.
Malfleur @ 13:41
Perhaps not, Malfleur, summarise it, please.
You may enjoy this, Frank most of all:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/chris-hobbs/theresa-may_b_10800186.html
Btw, where’s Costa mum, the country needs him, he was the first to mount a strong opposition to the one with repentant for Blahnik shoes, he would boost the argument against her, furnish some more ammunition for the barbarian reckons researchers in both camps are scanning the blogs for ideas.
Sorry, that was the bleeding software (cum the barbarian’s failure to check), it should read ‘with the penchant for Blahnik shoes’, eff to the bloody software.
Frank P
July 8th, 2016 – 17:13
“…….And we’re about to be taken over by Menopausal Mother”s Union”
Nasty, condescending remark from you, Frank. Do you really think the previous MALE quartet of PMs, consisting of “Maastricht” Major, Lord Blair of Iraq, Gordon “flog off our gold assets at rock bottom prices” Brown, and “fruitcakes, loonies & racists” Cameron, were so wonderful? Anybody, male OR female, would be an improvement on that shower, and it may have escaped your notice that Margaret Thatcher, our best ever PM, was presumably menopausal when she entered No.10 at the age of 54. I rest my case. 🙂
Frank P
July 8th, 2016 – 17:13
“………And we’re about to be taken over by Menopausal Mother”s Union”
Nasty, condescending remark from you, Frank. Do you really think that the previous c**ppy list of male PMs, ie “Maastricht” Major, Blair, Brown, Cameron, was so wonderful? After that shower, a female PM could only, at the very least, be a considerable improvement on her predecessors.
sorry about the stutter, the first post vanished, then re-appeared without warning.
time for change
its insane
to
let eyes rain
let stop this gravy train
its near
multiple election year
The royalties of his book to British Iraq war victims he donate
Though some do say for Tony Blair too little and too late
That his guilt will not return to life Iraq’s war dead
Or save the lives of victims of terrorism in Iraq in the years ahead
But in professing his remorse Tony Blair does have a conscience it does seem
Unlike George W Bush or John Howard who show no guilt or loss of self esteem
At the sadness and death and suffering they caused to Iraq
A life once taken cannot be given back
At least Tony Blair remorse for his errors does show
He has feelings that much of him we do know
It takes courage and humility to feel you may be wrong
The likes of Bush and Howard could never be that strong
And due to terrorism that has it’s source in war Iraqis dying every day
For every war the price as such is always huge to pay.
Francis Duggan
This may cheer you up, not:
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/07/09/hairdresser-bring-bring-first-brexit-legal-challenge-within-two-weeks/
It reminds Baron of a quip by George Burns: ‘Too bad that all the people who know how to run a country are busy driving cabs or cutting hair’. Aren’t we lucky that at least of of them took the time to address the running of Britain?
@ 16.47 it should read ‘one of them…’ Sorry.
It’s harmless, abit of fun, good news for the sellers of blue paint, but is it art?
The barbarian’s planning to go to the local market, sink his naked bottom into a tub full of red paint, stamp his freshly painted buttocks on sheets of paper, sell each as a work of art entitled ‘The Red End’.
What’s more likely to happen, you reckon? Will he get arrested, or will he get hailed as the avant-garde artiste of East Anglia? Hard one, isn’t it?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3682009/Why-blue-Sea-people-strip-daub-body-paint-city-centre-huge-art-installation.html
Lesley (14:41)
I would remind you that the ‘Sainted Margaret’ once said, “Every Prime Minister needs a Willy.” I agreed with her at the time, in that regard anyway.
As for the other four limp dicks you cite as benchmarks, I agree with you, too – wholeheartedly. Moreover, I don’t remember writing anything other than ‘nasty and condescending remarks’ about them, too. I’ve always regarded all politicians as lampoon fodder. Now it looks as though they’ll have to be tampoon fodder, too. Sadly. The price of overweening ambition.
I suggest the the Tory Party settles the leadership issue by holding a hair-curlers-at dawn duel over the clothes line (a la Les Dawson) in the back garden of No. 10. I’d buy a ticket for that.
As I muttered during one of my own hot flushes, recently.
” Leaders – I’ve shit ’em!” Sorry, Lesley. Political correctness was never one of my redeeming features. Come to think of it, I have no redeeming features whatsoever. And don’t get me started on that garden gnome Jeremy Corbyn. As for Di Flabbott?? …
Baron (17:15)
“Hard one, isn’t?”
Not if you sit in a tub of red paint, it won’t be. However if you let it set, it could be, perhaps. You’ll need more than a TURP then, but turp-entine might help. 🙂
Fergus Pickering @ 15:16
Fine, Fergus, the short one except the barbarian would have added two more lines ‘one of a hetero/the other of queer’.
The other, longer one, too generous to the ghastly one. It isn’t his conscience that defines his defence of himself, but the fear of punishment. If he admitted he was wrong, even said that he wouldn’t do the same again, he would run a risk of facing a judge.
Btw, Charles Moore in his today’s DT column defends the ghastly Blair saying the he (Blair) got the two key decisions on Iraq right: Will the world be a better place without Saddam, and are we with the Americans or not’.
In the barbarian’s humble view there was only one key question Blair should have sought an answer to. ‘Is he invasion of Iraq in the interest of the UK’ for he was elected to govern UK, not the world.
The barbarian was in favour of going into Iraq because he thought it was in the interest of the Iraqi unwashed (he lived under a dictatorship, spent time inside), but he also naively assumed the invading troops will finish off the forces of evil in Iraq (do roughly what Sisi has done in Egypt since taking power). The Americans failed to sort the country out properly, they had no pan B, with hindsight, it seems they had the tools, not the guts to finish the job.
Frank P @ 17:33
Sound advice, Frank, the barbarian’s glad he sought it, ha, ha, ha.
Mistakes again, but you know where, sorry.
John birch @ 14:03
Nobody in the MSM seems to have mentioned it, John, but it’s as important (if not more) for the brexit debate.
The Germans have had enough of us, we’ve been a pain in the neck for years, if the Government (even backed by the House’s vote) were to ignore the referendum result, said we’ll remain, the Germans would say ‘no, you won’t, just eff off, we don’t need you’. (What the other EU members or the Brussels apparatchiks think is neither here nor there, the Germans run the show, trust Baron on this one, he knows, he’s looked it up).
Btw, there seems to be a divergence within the German political elite on what to do next, Mutti hasn’t spoken yet, the two most powerful men (the foreign affairs and the finance Ministers) want the EU to slow down the process of integration. This goes against Jucker’s call for speeded up federalisation. We shall see who prevails.
You can tell how bad Sharia May is as a potential prime minister by the fact that the BBC and The Guardian have been cheerleading for since June 24.
They know full well why. She is the anti-Brexit prime minister, the pro-EU wolf in anti-EU sheep’s clothing. She is a vicious, wicked, treacherous, clawing, spiteful politician with form as long as her arm.
There is a reason why most modern prime ministers who put themselves before the electorate have no experience. It’s because if the British people had see their track record they would never elect them. Think of Gordon Brown.
There is no way Sharia May will call an election after her coronation because her record of treachery, betrayal and lying is there for all to see. If Camoron said ‘no ifs, no buts’ she was the minister supposed to deliver.
From David Laws’ book ‘Coalition’ p 351:
‘Let me be blunt’ I [David Laws] was told by one senior civil servant: ‘the Home Secretary doesn’t want a fully functioning system of entry and exit checks. She thinks it would only highlight the ineffectiveness of the Border Agency and the Home Office…Theresa May is saying that entry and exit checks would be expensive and embarrassing.’
Theresa May is a liar. She had no intention ever to lower or control immigration.
Theresa May is a liar. She paraded herself as someone who wanted to clamp down on extremists when what she meant by that word was anyone who objected to her doing secret deals with the biggest extremists of them all, Saudi Arabia.
She is a wicked woman.
The biggest sponsor of Islamic terror in the West – Saudi Arabia – has been given help to bomb Britain by its very own home secretary, Sharia May.
The next time British police are scraping up body parts off the ground after an Islamic attack, it will be Sharia May who sponsored that Islamic terror attack.
It is absolutely essential now for the Establishment, having effectively (they hope – I hope not) killed off UKIP with this referendum to get back to having politicians in power that they own.
They knew full well what Michael Gove was like, both from his book Celsius 7/7 and from the fact that when he saw his justice department had constructed a deal with Saudi Arabia, he went in there and ripped it up in front of the Common Purpose civil servants’ faces. Take that.
He clearly wasn’t going to do what the Guardian, BBC and Daily Mail want so he was never in line.
Daily Mail Lord Rothermere and Daily Mail editor Paul Dacre tried and failed three times to extinguish UKIP: at Clacton, at Rochester, and finally in the general election.
They have used this referendum to appease their readers and – by getting rid of UKIP and any other upstart parties – getting rid of any politicians they cannot own. That’s why Lord Rothermere owns a newspaper. He needs to own those politicians, not have upstart parties and people who won’t do what he wants.
That is why the Mail (for the first time in its history) endorsed Sharia May the day she announced her candidacy. It explains the axis of evil of the BBC, Guardian and Daily Mail all screaming for May.
They are terrified of Leadsom because she hasn’t been in Parliament long enough to be their skivvy. By the time you reach prime minister, you need to know who’s the big boss.
If you doubt what I say, just look at the Mail’s day-in, day-out vilification of Donald Trump. Of course Paul Dacre doesn’t like independent-minded politicians and Trump is a nightmare for Dacre: He will not be owned.
Trump is a massive problem for UK media owners and UK politicians. Britain has the lowest level of free speech anywhere in the Western world, but with a little thing called the internet, British people can see what Donald Trump is saying and think: Why can’t our politicians say that.
So don’t be fooled by Paul Dacre into thinking he wanted a Brexit. He wanted rid of UKIP and now that job’s done, he along with The Guardian and the BBC are desperate to get Sharia May into Number 10.
One of the other ways the supposedly opposed BBC and Daily Mail have been doing after the vote is killing off any voice Nigel Farage might have in British public life by using the Breaking Point poster to deny him any seat in the House Of Lords.
Those speeches he used to give in the EU parliament were assiduously never shown on the BBC (or Sky) or reported on in the Daily Mail or the Guardian and so on.
What the Establishment does not want is Farage sat in the House of Lords and delivering speeches along the lines of ‘Just who the hell do you people think you are?’ as he did to the EU parliament to the scum that sits at Westminster.
First, they don’t want someone calling them the scum that they are. Second, given that they will do all they can to prevent Brexit, they won’t want someone in Parliament who will point out how anti-democratic they all are.
What the BBC et al are doing is referring to the Breaking Point poster, which was totally accurate and true (it passed all the advertising watchdog tests) as ‘racist’.
Knowing that there is no way the advertising watchdog would criticise that poster and knowing that they want Farage’s voice out of public life – forever – they have taken it upon themselves to use their stage and their microphone to poison any chance of Farage going to the Lords.
On Question Time last week, David Nepotisticbore twice said to Douglas Carswell that the Breaking Point poster was ‘racist’. It was not. It was true. Every word. And they don’t need reminding of that in Westminster when they succeed in blocking the Brexit, the last thing they want is a little voice in the House of Lords piping up and saying: ‘Who the hell do you people think you are?’
I love that Breaking Point poster so much.
So true. So accurate.
And just when Gideon was trying to get the economy to win the battle of the newsprint column inches, old matador El Farage pull out his red rag and the Press ran towards it like a rabid bull.
There’s a good journalist. Let’s talk about immigration for the final seven days and not George’s sky-will-fall-on-your-head predictions.
Job done. And now it’s all over, the Press realise how stupid they were. They’re even more angry to get something – anything – out of that poster. Even if it’s just denying Farage a seat in the Lords.
Well, it was you who made such a bloody song and dance about it and helped yourself to lose the effing vote. You’re so desperate to smear and so desperate to lie, you can’t see the effect of reporting a home truth, even when you spin spite on it.
Suck it up, you Big Media Remainiacs.
Breaking Point – the EU has failed us all.
When you printed that, you printed the truth. For once. Now belt up and shut up. We have listened long enough.
Maurice Saatchi:
“The Prime Minister deserves to win this referendum. And he will.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/14/dont-want-to-leave-but-hate-the-idea-of-remain-i-have-the-ideal/
Maurice Saatchi wrote the playbook on political posters. He has one formula for creating them: “brutal simplicity”.
The message must be simple.
So Nigel borrowed one that Maurice made earlier. The “Labour isn’t working” poster and slapped the words “Breaking point”on it.
There you go, Maurice. In your words, “brutal simplicity”. Now go and give you old, mate Camoron a job. The EU has failed us all, you old advertising spiv. Flog your tatty EU to someone else.
You are in a fighting mood tonight, Costa mum.
Like you, Baron finds nothing wrong with the poster. It’s telling the truth, there were many of them, mostly young, not many looked as if they’ve suffered.
The poster is less emotionally charged that the pictures of the poor young child who drowned, was found lying on a beach, carried for everyone to see.
Both images are a part of a deep tragedy which, let us not forget, started with the neocons fuelling Spring galore in the ME.
This may bore you, it has nothing to do with the hot issues of today, well, it’s only lightly related to them, someone like the Colonel or others may even correct the barbarian on the ‘facts’.
In today’s DT, one of the paper’s columnists, Michael Deacon, has a piece in the centrefold under the heading ‘Facts are the first casualties in the new war on truth’.
Hard to disagree with the notion, it’s quite spot on, but reading the narrative it soon becomes clear the writer’s aim is to discredit Andrea, one of the two candidates because she ‘has made numerous questionable claims about her career before politics’. A hatchet job on his part, one can hardly blame him, his bosses pay his wages. Plenty of it around now.
What pissed the barbarian though is the start of the write up where Deacon relates a story told to him by someone called Stewart Lee many years ago (a comedian Baron never heard of).
Lee was in a London taxi, the driver told him soon after they started chatting ‘all homosexuals should be killed’. ‘Why?’, asks Lee. ‘Well, because homosexuality is immoral’, says the taxi driver.
Lee then politely argues that ‘immorality is far from immutable’, and offers a ‘fact’ (quote): “Western society derives many of its fundamental principles – in ethics, aesthetics, philosophy and more – from ancient Greece, in which love between two men was regarded as the purest love of all” (end quote).
The driver is unimpressed, says ‘yes, well, you can prove anything with facts, cannot you?’ (That’s exactly what it says in the column, Baron reckons it should be ‘but you cannot prove everything with facts, can you?).
Still, the driver was quite right to be unimpressed for a different reason. What Lee said was not a ‘fact’, but bollocks.
Leaving aside the falsity of the coupling of sexual mores in ancient Greece with our accepting their teachings in ‘ethics, aesthetics, philosophy and more’, Lee’s understanding of homosexuality in ancient Greece was wrong.
Passionately erotic love i.e. love involving sex between two adult men, (which is what passes for today’s homosexual love) was considered unusual, certainly not a norm at any stage in the history of the ancient society of Greece , if anything, it was held up to ridicule.
Homosexual love in Greece (as practised in Athens) was an inter-generational love, a close sexual bond was between a man and a boy called paiderastia (hence pederasty), derived from pais, boy, and eran, to love, something that is not only a total taboo, but a crime today punishable by impisonment.
What Lee didn’t say to the taxi driver either (from the Spartan end of the ancient Greece) was that treatment of people with disability, both young and old, was rather abhorrent by our standard, children belonged to the state, not the parents, those considered after inspection by the elders as not suitable for bringing up were left to die, or killed, the farther of a child could do anything he wanted to the child (including his or her slaughter), the idea was to breed a perfect race, the sexual coupling was between the best of either sexes, others less suitable were out.
If we were to follow Deacon’s (or Lee’s) prescription, adopt the mores of the ancient Greeks who furnished the foundation of our ‘ethics, aesthetics, philosophy and more’, we would encourage pedophilia, let disabled children die (or kill them), do the same to those of us who either by accident or old age become disabled or infirm.
And people like Deacon get a column in a supposedly high brow conservative paper, (where were the sub-editors?).
That’s in part why the papers are losing readership when even someone like the poorly educated Slav can spot a glaring error of this sort in a piece calling for ‘facts’ to rule our lives.
Baron @ 14:20 and 14.21
I have not made up my mind whether Dallas was a false flag or not. I posted the link because it is another view. We have surely learned the lesson not to accept automatically and without question the mass media’s coverage of political events such as this.
My post at 14.21 was a statement about the general situation, not Dallas alone.
As to what my job is, please assume that I am a vastly independently wealthy insomniac recently obsessed with what I hope, but fear not, will be merely a ahort, temporary phase of disintegration and barbarism in western, and particularly but not exclusively anglosphere, civilisation.
Baron, July 9th, 2016 – 17:15
“Hard one, isn’t?”
Mm. Normally I’d recommend a good quality emulsion with an eggshell finish. However for your clutch maybe a high content acrylic paint might do the trick. Failing that, a tub of epoxy resin!
Malfleur – 00:48
“As to what my job is, please assume that I am a vastly independently wealthy insomniac …”
Please don’t ever admit to doing anything commonplace or conventional for a living as it would shatter my illusion of a rugged individualist and English eccentric forging a living abroad.
eg. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/6604750/Lord-Moynihan.html
(h/t Andy Carpark)
Ahem, when I said “forging” I didn’t mean banknotes, although that might prove easier that knocking out one of Baron’s canvasses and passing it off as a Baron original!
FROM THE VAULTS
2013 “Home Secretary Theresa May tells terrorists:You will not win”
http://www.expressandstar.com/news/politics/2013/09/18/home-secretary-theresa-may-tells-terroristsyou-will-not-win/
At the same time as being photographed Kow-towing to THEIR dress code in OUR country!
2014 Gove vs May
http://bit.ly/29LUn6R
Despite some misgivings previously expressed by CHWs, I cannot help but think that on the existential threat to our country, Michael Gove has it right!
Lesley, July 9th, 2016 – 14:41
The menopause argument isn’t so much a straw man as a non issue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd-z5wBeFTU
Baron – 00:12
He’s not a “regular” on the BBC left wing panelist/”comedy” gravy train…
Stewart Lee is still nonetheless a case of no laughing matter.
For the perfect example of the LabCon alliance look no further than Labour MP Glenda Jackson’s son, the diabolical Dan Hodges. He is a Labour supporter writing in the Mail On Sunday, a newspaper owned by Lord Rothermere.
Ah, but surely that makes them opposite? Not a bit of it. They are the sweetest of LabCon bedfellows. Two Remainiac peas in a pod!
Hodges, is – just like the BBC, the Guardian and the rest of the Left wing media – squealing like a stuck pig for Theresa May to be the next prime minister. And this is why. From his column he explains (without ever admitting it directly) that May will not allow Brexit. She will renegotiate a new deal and then hold a second referendum:
‘Theresa’s line on the Brexit negotiations is going to be simple: “If I’d been in charge earlier, I would have got us the deal we needed.”
‘Everyone now recognises Cameron didn’t do a good job. He didn’t fight his corner. Angela Merkel faced him down on free movement, and he just took what he was given. Theresa wouldn’t have done that. If that’s what she’d been offered, she would have walked away.’ [What twaddle.]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3682721/DAN-HODGES-Theresa-stakes-single-throw-dice-sake-party-better-work.html
I thought David Cameron and others said the ballot on June 23 was irreversible? Not a bit of it. This is exactly the same playbook used in Ireland. When the people voted No there, they just had another referendum.
As China and the eurozone lead the world economy downwards, there will be a roughing up of the British electorate. You did this. This Brexit vote thing. Well, now there’s a new deal so best to vote in this time.
Hodges also writes:
“Theresa May also feels that her record running one of the major offices of state will withstand comparison alongside the tracked changes currently littering Leadsom’s curriculum vitae.”
I’m sorry but who cares about domestic political backstabbing (it happens every day) and embellished CVs (who’s never done that?).
What people do care about is atrocious, lying records as home secretary and doing deals behind our back with Saudi Arabia who fund murders of UK citizens.
By way of joint enterprise, Theresa May is a murderous liar.
This is a small selection of Reader Comments taken from below Dan Hodges propaganda piece for Theresa May. They are, by turns, funny, insightful and true:
Theresa May is planning another Referendum under the guidance of David Cameron. They are both traitors and will surrender us to the EU.
The media could destroy May in a day, if they published the truth about her lucrative and unsavoury links to G4S, and the long list of dangerous mistakes she made as the worst Home Secretary in living memory. The Telegraph tried to write the truth about her career but Tory head office got the article pulled. Meanwhile Leadsom is smeared from here to next week. We have a disgustingly compliant, lying Press.
The last person this country now needs is Theresa May. She wants to remain in the EU, and has already confirmed her intentions of watering down what the British people, she wants to cherry pick tiny little pieces.
Theresa May is detested by everyone outside of the London Bubble. If they vote her in as PM the conservative party will be wiped out at the next GE. 17.5 million people will NOT be voting for her.
This promotion of May is a “damage limitation exercise”. The referendum voted for leave, the establishment disagree, the best they can do is try to make the referendum work for them. They do this by trying to get May into driving seat, their willing puppet. She can then “leave”, in the most ineffectual way I.e. Keeping ties with the EU whilst pretending we have left. This is not what we voted for.
We the people don’t want the most incompetent Home Secretary ever to be our next PM.
The Tory Remainders know that May is their only chance of screwing up Brexit. So they are desperate to hide their very real contempt for her cowardice, laziness, all-round uselessness (and worrying bouts of battiness). Eric Pickles had to put on his most dead-eyed robotic persona today on Sky when he was paid to praise May as a feasible leader….he would have burst out laughing or crying otherwise.
This looks as if this is going to turn into the biggest political con in modern times, a Remain PM leading the Brexit country, trying every trick and legal device to get back into the EU. The Tory Party relies on the floating voters to form a majority, they did in the past, but they won’t get them in the future if there’s shenanigans with a clean Brexit.
Mrs May is a major part of the problem that led us to vote leave, SHE was supposed to apply Camerons orders to cut migration to tens of thousands, instead she put it up to 330,000.
Eric Pickles is now trying hard to destroy Andrea Leadsom on Sky, eagerly abetted by Murnaghan. Pickles always had contempt for May’s fumbling, messy, lazy Home Secretaryship. Now suddenly he claims May is strong…empathetic..saviour of the nation. What a fool he looks and sounds.
May has spent the last 6 years bending over for Brussels.
She has been an appalling Home Secretary, because of her well-known idleness, indecision, poor performance and her inevitable “disappearances” whenever there are challenges to face. Now she is being bigged up as “decisive” and “a good negotiator”!!!
Failure in every government post, cannot bode well! In the real working world, she wouldn’t get any job with her total lack of ability. All she has been good at is crawling, her results when appointed, are Failure every time. Only in Givernment and the BBC to you get promotion for Failing!
There has never been the smallest indication that May is decisive, or tough, or a good negotiator. Quite the opposite. Her habit is to hide under the stairs when there are decisions to be made or challenges to face. When she is winkled out from her hiding place she waffles and hesitates. She has no courage and no backbone.
Why is it that Leadsom is being smeared every day while the Mays’ very murky links to the useless but ever-expanding G 4 S are kept hidden?
Pretend Democracy.
Mrs May has already said that she would delay invoking Article 50 until mid-2017. But by then it will be too late, and I bet she knows it. In March 2017 complete integration will be introduced through the Lisbon Treaty and any country wanting to leave the EU will be subject to Qualified Majority Voting – that is, it will need the permission of a majority of the other member states in order to leave. And let’s face it, no way are they going to permit the departure of the UK. We MUST have all this done and dusted by the end of this year at the very latest. Start by repealing the 1972 European Communities Act. (If we invoke Article 50 by itself, the EU will drag the negotiations on beyond the March 2017 deadline). And then immediately invoke Article 50. And DO NOT let the negotiations drag on. NO freedom of movement of people. If the EU does not like that, we walk.
Reports suggest the Tory Remainers are hell bent on keeping things more or less just the way they are and that’s why this is evidently getting really nasty. My belief is May will go for freedom of movement in return for access to the EU market but officially, without our being in the EU. This would probably be then put to the public in a new referendum where the argument will be, we might as well stay in. Leadsom is obviously posing such a massive threat to this that it’s daggers drawn. The only consolation is the bad news gets worse by the day; Italian banks are on the brink of collapse, courtesy of EU law it might be said, Italy threatening to go the way of Greece and so, Italy’s anti EU Five star movement is soaring in the polls offering it’s own referendum. Our power supplies are now down to 0.1% spare capacity, also thanks to EU policy and it looks like things are going to collapse come what may.
Vote in May, repent in September.
So now they are trying to spin May’s failures as good valid reasons why she should be PM, they really are getting desperate, her unite the conservatives over the EU (I note they keep saying Europe, do they know the difference) by that she means they will stay in the EU but try and negotiate something
The luvvies, like the Tory MPs, know May will be used by Merkel & Schulz to stall Article 50. After March 2017 no EU country will be permitted to leave the EU. Our entire political class – with a few exceptions – represents the interests of the EU clique.
May is continuity Dave. May and her pals will do their not very competent best to keep the UK in the EU straitjacket. The tory party will go the way of Labour if she wins.
When are the press going bring up May’s abysmal record as Home Secretary, police morale on the floor, resided over the Rotherham and Birmingham issues, border force undermanned and ineffective, not enough boats to patrol our shores, thousands of illegal immigrants disappear of the radar. A useless HS and will be a useless PM.
When can we start to see the appalling record of May as Home Secretary, justifiably torn apart by the Media ? Sometime never.
Well the statement by Former Attorney General Dominic Grieve – who supports Theresa May – Said it all. Grieve calls for a second referendum. THIS IS THE TRUE INTENT OF THIS WOMAN. She has NO intention of invoking article 50 OR UNITING the Country, All SHE is interested is HERSELF and PARTNER. So has no care for Queen, Country or YOU.
Hodges will love May, just as he loved Cameron; they’re all Blairites, all could be equally happy in New Labour. May’s incompetence at the Home Office, and her ability to hush-up her failures, will come back to haunt her, and us.
Under May, annual immigration figure was 330,000 (that’s only the number they say they know about) yet the promise was 10,000.
The Establishment are all Europhiles and May is their choice because they know that she will actively undermine the will of the British people by not standing up to Europe in any exit discussions or demanding anything that is against the EU thinking.
So not a Sharia May supporter, then:
https://mobile.twitter.com/TarekFatah/status/751503656399282176/photo/1
Headlines from the Mail:
Violence at #BlackLivesMatter protest in London as a bus passenger is punched in the face for criticising demonstrators who blocked the roads
Thousands of revellers fill London’s Trafalgar Square for a momentous day of Eid celebrations with the capital’s first Muslim mayor Sadiq Khan
Sadiq Khan, elected the first Muslim mayor of a major Western capital in May, led the Eid al-Fitr celebrations in London on Saturday in front of packed crowd of thousands of merrymakers.
Isn’t it interesting how – because of media brainwashing – victimhood status in another country is co-opted in another.
This is pure propaganda.
Can you imagine a protest after Lee Rigby’s death dealing with the fact that ‘Non-Muslim lives matter’?
They would all be locked up. Just look at the faux victimhood. Punching people in the face as they go along parading their victimhood. It’s all a lie.
Pure Gramsci distraction. We’re naked. And blue. Aren’t we shocking? Pure cultural distraction:
What a Hullablue! City dyes for its art as sea of people strip off and daub themselves in body paint for huge art installation
More than 3,000 people shed their clothes and painted themselves various shades of blue (left, bottom right) as they posed for a huge art installation in Hull, East Yorkshire. They caused quite a stir around the city, with hundreds lying down across a road in the city centre while others circled one of Hull’s parks.
Do you want an utterly true, utterly contemporary, utterly relevant art installation? I’ve got one for you. It won’t be getting EU funding so you’ll just have to imagine it.
It’s a brass sculpture of two men cowardly hacking the head off a British soldier on the streets of South London. These three figures are accompanied by a fourth. To the side of the scene stands Theresa May, giggling like someone who’s just signed a secret deal with Saudi Arabia.
Everything about it is culturally relevant. The event was utterly true and is a tribute to the soldier. Brass was used to prevent the vandalism it would no doubt attract.
It will be placed on Brixton High Street to remind locals who the true victims in this country are.
Can I get a Turner Prize grant, please?
And now, just as a distraction from his own government’s shortcomings and in a wicked attempt to try to sellotape back together the EU Panama Dave tells us to worry about Vladimir Putin.
For God’s sake man, just go.
Putin Issues Desperate Warning of WWIII
“I don’t know how to get thru to you people anymore”
“Do you realise what you’ve done?”
“Destabilising the middle east. Why are you doing this?”
“Where are the sound minds who should be stopping this?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMMscY7Btus
h/t Malfleur
Will anyone please scroll down to the forth clip (a girl in a red top), listen to her, tell Baron what it is she’s yelling about? It’s near impossible to understand a word of it, someone should tell people like her in a civilised society one doesn’t have to scream to make a point, in fact, just the opposite used to be the norm.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/09/chaos-in-baton-rouge-the-new-black-panthers-are-here/
Costa mum @ 13:45
Baron’s afraid to tell you, Costa mum, you are next in the queue for the Turner, he’s taken the first place for nomination with his painted bum.
“someone should tell people like her in a civilised society one doesn’t have to scream to make a point…”
Good luck with that one, Baron!
A massive pressure on Andrea to apologise for having a view. One can hope she will tell those pressurising her to eff off, sticks to what she said.
It used to be people had views on many things, were free to express it, one could either roll one’s eyes, or agree with it, there were to demands to apologise to conform to the take on things by an aggressive, nasty and virulent minority.
At last! A fun story. Satirical and true. Theresa May is keeping up a record of secret deals. Not content with doing dirty deals with Saudi Arabia in secret, she has already met Remainiac Richard Branson (who lives in the Caribbean). Branson has asked her for a second referendum.
I don’t know why he bothered. She would do that anyway.
In response, radio host Jon Gaunt is offering a whip round among listeners to get the money to fly 50 refugees based in Britain to Sir Richard’s private island. Sir Richard has always liked to plunder the UK to fill his boots so why would he say no?
Surely he’s not like Benedict Cumberbatch, Yvette Cooper, Bob Geldof and so on. Take them Sir Richard, they’re yours.
Do they really believe all the guff they tell us about refugees? Or are they lying?
‘Unforgivable’ screams a headline in one of the tabloids Baron flipped through this morning in our local Costa that keeps all newspapers. The reference is, of course, to Andrea’s mention of her stake in the future because of her children.
Not to be undone, in the Observer a female scribbler Jane Merrick does the same, but is smarter.
She sets the argument by appealing to working mothers with kids: ‘Mothers – and I speak as one of a five year old – jealously guard our territory (note she uses ‘our’ as opposed to ‘their’ to include herself), luxuriating in our insufferable martyrdom, boasting of being able to wash a PE kit whilst sending an e-mail to the office ….
Then she steps in up: ‘But we do not have a monopoly on juggling, or worrying about the future, or playing a part in civic society’ …..
Then she introduces the heroine of our times: ‘In fact, there’s a perfect example of someone who has devoted her working life to public service, who has juggled constituency work, red boxes blah, blah, blah, …and, in recent years managing her diabetes’, yup, a malady can help, too, in support of the one she’s going to reveal at the end of the verbal vomit, and she does. ‘Her name is Teresa May’, she ends it.
Then immediately a new para where she says: ‘Being a mother – or father – changes your perspective, but it doesn’t make you any fitter to be prime minister.’
How TF does she know, any facts, data, evidence on it? None at all, it’s her view, she is welcome to it as much as somebody’s else should hold the opposite slicing of it. Views are what we form observing life, they require no evidence because they’re in the realm of opinions, sentiments, guesses.
That it’s a manufactured uproar is without question. Doesn’t the Government pursue the same agenda, don’t we have a Child benefit, in fact, it was and should be the duty of any Government to encourage procreation, it’s the only source of income it has (borrowing doesn’t count because sooner or later it has to be repaid, the repayment money could come only from taxes).
Still, only two outcomes are certain, either the saintly sharia Teresa gets in, or Andrea makes it. If it is the former, UKIP can see a strong revival at the next election. If Andrea gets the prize, as one hopes, the Tories may follow the the predicament of Labour in the hOuse, (some 20 Tory MPs say there will quit the Tory whip if she gets in).
In the end, we may see a re-aligmnet of politics as happened when the SDP was born, huge following first, then emotions calmed down, we’ve shifted back to the traditional segmentation of the political movement. Old habits die harder than the emotion fuelled effluvium of the mind of the anointed.
EC @ 14:09
Have you noticed, EC, nobody in the MSM blames the honorary Muslim, he doesn’t come into it, the two 4-year stints of his governance count for nothing, it’s all racist policing, racism of the society, racism in a handful of dust, and of course the divisive Donald.
One truly despairs what will happen if the tensions boil over.
Costa mum @ 13:48
They, the anointed world over, need something to divert the unwashed’s attention from brexit, the jihadi threat, the racial boil in the Republic …., an Putin is as good as anything they could come up with what with ebola out of the running. No surprise here.
The Scottish tennis star looks like winning in the final. The Summer this year is turning into a global warming joke, we desperately need some good news, no?
Guido Fawkes’ readers can spot a media co-ordinated character assassination when they see one. This is from a poster over there called duncann:
“This weekend, Theresa May’s agents – who would not speak without her blessing – have threatened to leave the party, demanded her opponent stand down for the most trivial reasons, ordered the members to follow the MPs’ vote or else, compared Mrs Leadsom to Corbyn and slagged off her personal qualities.
“It strikes me that the May campaign is being advised by Osborne a public school thug who goes in hard and nasty right from the start. The May campaign is dirty and a disgrace. I assume it is fuelled by panic.”
I agree with all of that. You have to remember the scale of this defeat. It is the Establishment’s biggest mistake ever. And they know it. They are now fighting like dogs to reverse the vote.
Osborne was the man entrusted to win for the Remainiacs and worked with Peter Mandelson to deliver a Remain vote. Of course he’s behind the attacks on Leadsom. He planned to be in high office for years. Look at him still clinging on as chancellor. If he can get May as prime minister, his reward is to stay as chancellor. He’s like the lion who’s had a kick in the mouth from a gazelle. This has all gone terribly wrong for him.
Because this vote for party leader is only among Tory voters (150,000 people) May can minimise her TV and other media appearances. She has gone to ground again and her underlings are busy filling the airwaves with a drip, drip, drip of smears against Leadsom. They can take the flak if anything in these attacks goes wrong, leaving Theresa without blood stains around her lips.
Guido Fawkes has also published the full transcript of the alleged offending remarks about motherhood made by May and – unsurprisingly – they have been ripped totally out of context.
There is nothing Leadsom can do to counteract all this. All the knifing in her back can be done by Sharia May’s underlings and by Remainiac news reporters (which means Murdoch, Dacre, Guardian, Mirror, BBC, Sky News). She doesn’t stand a chance.
Public support for UKIP had until now left the press trying to be even-handed to appease their readers. But now they think UKIP has gone, they want Tory and Labour to go back to being their puppets. No unknown quantities, thank you. Just fully paid-up traitors to the British people like Sharia May need apply. Her CV tells the Press barons just what they want to know: she’ll throw us all under the bus.
Two weeks ago the UK voted – in the biggest number ever voted for anything ever – to leave the EU.
Seven days ago, all Leavers were being smeared and the idea of a Theresa May coronation was floated. It was withdrawn because not to have an election would smack of what May is going to do when she become prime minister: subvert democracy and over-rule the will of the people.
Today, it’s all about smearing Leadsom into stepping down so you see, there’s no bloodstains around Theresa’s Saudi Arabian asre-kissing lips.
It’s let’s get Leadsom – who isn’t used to this sort of 24-hour abuse – to step down.
And you’re all innocent, May. Kissing Saudi asres, kissing Richard Branson’s asre and planning a second referendum while you’re deputies and Press baron supporters do the dirty work.
EC @ 14:04
We’ve been through similar periods of warmongering, EC, the Berlin Wall, the Cuban crisis are amongst the most visible and memorable ones, we’ve calmed down. What happens this time round is everyone’s guess, nobody can predict the future.
It suits Putin as well as the American neocons to wipe the animosity between the old adversaries, both parties have domestic warts they know not how to solve, no porridge is ever eaten as hot as it’s cooked, both sides must know starting a nuclear war would be suicidal to everyone, there can be no winner.
The world turmoil initiated by the Americans makes sense if you buy Baron’s slicing of the American future as the policing superpower. It’s abating, their hold on the world, they know it, the last thing they need is a world of stable, successful, getting richer countries that can take over.
The destabilising of whole regions prolongs their control, extends the shelf life of their dominance, keeps the 5% of the population of the Republic (as per cent of the world’s) to keep using the 20% of the world’s primary energy. If those in governance in Washington cannot deliver on it, it won’t be racial rioting, but a societal breakdown the’ll have on their hands.
I don’t like Rap music, but I do love these guys culturally appropriated version of it!
🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
h/t Bill Whittle
full site at: http://www.epicrapbattlesofhistory.com/
What mistakes, arghhh, sorry about the wiping rather than whipping up, the others, it just cannot b e helped, the power of the imbedded assistance seems insurmountable.
Nobody thought it amiss when Keynes (who might have been right or wrong ) was accused of being a childless homosexual.
Here is how That Twat, Martin Schulz, responds to allegations that the Lisbon Treaty is being selectively enforced. Specifically, that despite Article 125 stipulating that member states shall be responsible for their own debts, smaller nations get strongarmed into joining bailouts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OafqVVmVQHI
Greetings from Clovelly, jewel in the crown of the Cornshire Riviera.
Baron – 14:04
You asked what that woman was yelling?
There are clips of more audible yelling in here…
“The Truth About the Dallas Sniper Attack”
Paul Joseph Watson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByE_CpXIjRA
Don’t hear too much about Eric Heffer these days.
Andy Car Park @ 19:44
The same guy Sulk (that’s the Slovak) had an argument about the distribution immigrants in a TV programme in Austria, Andy, he got a better chance to make his point, nobody interrupted him there.
The debt sharing isn’t the only rule Brussels breaks if it suits them. The article 21 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights says ‘the will of the people shall be the basis of the authority of government”. Where is the will of the people that has given the authority to the (still) 28 commissars of Brussels?
EC @ 20:19
Thanks for the clip, EC, the best bit of it is where one of the women says ‘all lives matter’ is racist. So must be a handful of dust, or anything else the people backing the virtue correct movement object to.
Rather enjoyable, the final match, the French were marginally better, lost, it wasn’t their day. It shows that in a game of near equals luck matters.
PETER HITCHENS BLOG – 6 July – EXTRACT
“I urge anyone genuinely interested in British politics to set aside the time and quiet needed to read this truly gripping and original article by Rafael Behr from Tuesday’s Guardian:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jul/05/how-remain-failed-inside-story-doomed-campaign
leave aside its tiresome assumption that all those reading it will sympathise with the pro-EU case. Its portrayal of the deep and committed collaboration between the Tory Party and the organised Blairite Left is superbly telling….”
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2016/07/why-blairites-would-rather-be-led-by-theresa-may-than-by-jeremy-corbyn.html
It looks as though any new party formed out of the wreck of the two old might be a parliamentary Remain party rather than Brexit if we are not more attentive.
Back into the fray, Farage!
This may be not only boring for you to read, but also uninteresting, but it shouldn’t be because it tells you how Labour goes about selecting candidates for GE:
http://wire.novaramedia.com/2016/07/how-angela-eagle-got-to-be-mp-for-wallasey/?utm_content=buffer7bff5&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
Theresa May v. Andrea Leadsom = Black Ops. says I.D.Smith.
Theresa May = CIA……. `Bl(air) America`strikes again.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3683032/Businessman-threatens-hand-Ukip-10million-warchest-Theresa-wins-Conservative-leadership-election.html
Please don’t confuse anyone with the facts.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-07-08/breakdown-us-citizens-killed-cops-2016