The Coffee House Wall – 6th/12th May

Posted on May 6, 2013

This is the Coffee House Wall for this week. I won’t say that it is your chance to communicate with us, as we are all in this together. It is, nevertheless, the Conservative Blog post that has no particular theme, and where everything is on topic. Let’s just remember that we want to avoid ad hominem attacks on others. We don’t want to engage with trolls. We want to moderate our language ourselves as responsible and mature adults, choosing to use fruity language only where it is necessary. This is our opportunity to show what the Spectator Coffee House Wall could have been like.

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163 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 6th/12th May”

  1. Nice clean wall

    I will take this opportunity to say I hope the coming week is as good as last week, and that the sea change in politics keeps its momentum.

  3. I would like to witness the demise of the Labour Party, which, nowadays, is just the Bolshie Party opposed to anything that is good for Britain The Tories could occupy he Far Left slot, as they already do anyway, thanks to Dave’s craving to be popular and approved of by everyone.

    This would leave the sensible pro-British, pro-freedom and stability, pro-free enterprise párty, UKIP, iwth the right slot all to itself.

    .

  4. P from M 12:34 – This is the motivator of white flight all over the world. Once the more primitive races start invading white areas and bringing their habits and beliefs and chips on shouldeers with them, the white people sensibly decamp to somewhere more congenial and building gated communities.

  5. “German euro founder calls for ‘catastrophic’ currency to be broken up
    Oskar Lafontaine, the German finance minister who launched the euro, has called for a break-up of the single currency to let southern Europe recover, warning that the current course is “leading to disaster”. ”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financialcrisis/10039329/German-euro-founder-calls-for-catastrophic-currency-to-be-broken-up.html

    Not much more to be said … but don’t stop there…

  6. Interesting take on the UKIP ascendancy from Douglas Murray on the WSJ . Comments can be left in the blog section of The Other Place.

  7. Noa, how did you fare in the elections last week (ff you’ve already said, I must have missed it)?

  8. Frank Sutton (15:50)

    Murray spends far too much time in mental masturbation the thinkywanks; his metaphor is daft. Why do these pseudo intellectuals try to turn everything into a Greek history lesson. Quite simply the erstwhile conservative sheeples are pissed off with Cameroon’s empty promises and his subservience to Yurrop. He is an oily, privileged empty PR suit. He could crawl under a snakes belly without disturbing it. They County voters are also, in larger and larger numbers, incandescent over the fact that London is now the capital of exotic ethnicity – and that our provincial cities have, in the main, been taken over by hordes of foreigners who now form a majority rather than an ‘ethnic minority’ and in the main want to destroy the indigenous culture and religion in favour of their own barbaric superstitions and ideologies . So the County Council election results are a scream of rage from the ENGLISH (let’s not put too fine a point on it).

    The General Election will tell a different story. I’m afraid the call of the counties will be as a baby’s cry in the Hampden roar. We are already outnumbered – Hedgehogs and foxes my arse! Our political class are currently populated by more charlatans, thieves and queers and traitors (perm any two or three from the four in the case of most of ’em) than at any time during my lifetime. Ordure! Ordure!

  12. Peter from Maidstone
    May 6th, 2013 – 14:34

    ‘Interesting to see reports about the flight of white British people from urban areas with high ethnic communities meaning that those areas become even more ethnic based.’

    Yeah, the schools as well I suppose….they become more ‘ethnic based’ that is.
    The peculiar thing about it is that I find teaching in these ‘ethnic’ schools easier than in predom. white/English schools. This is regardless of class.

    My expericence is that white/English parents are simply the worst that I have encountered. Millions of reasons but the differences in parenting linked to culture is marked. Culture is certainly vital from what I have seen; Eastern E. parents are attentive supportive & loving.

    Discussing this with a friend the other day he said; “Well, that’s funny’cos white English people are my worst employees…..”

    There are reasons nations expire I suppose.

    Verity.

    Moving home with pets? Yes that would be a chore.
    However, there’s the excitement of a long journey to offset things a little.
    Sorry if you’re already elaborated but why are you returning ‘home’?
    Missing the fields and meadows?

  13. Frank Sutton
    Thank you for your enquiry
    In summary; 9 seats contested, 0 Won. 🙁
    Nearly 5,000 UKIP votes out of over 25,000 cast = 18% of the total went to UKIP.
    3rd place overall, behind Labour and Conservatives, beating the Lib Dems and Greens by a considerable margin.
    However, FPTP meant that did not translate into seats.
    This time.
    There are no UKIP seats in Lancashire, which is now a hung council. But, at least we ably assisted in the hanging!
    I got over 400, or 12% of the votes cast in a heavy Labour and Indian S-C migrant constituency. I didn’t fight the seat actively because, having formed the Branch in February, we only had sufficient resources to fight one potentially winnable marginal seat.
    I’ll post some further thoughts later.

    Thank you to all you Wallsters out there for your support, it was very much appreciated!
    We have already started planning for the next by-election, including supporting a potential campaign in nearby Ribble Valley and the EU and local elections next year.

    As our branch was only formed in March, with a budget of less than £200 and just a handful of committed canvassers and leafleters, we struggled against the Lib/Lab/Con party machines. Nevertheless we scared them into heavy lobbying and chasing up recalcitrant voters until 10 c’clock at night.

  14. Noa@May 6th, 2013 – 18:44

    I hope you dont think your efforts were wasted. Hopefully people will get used to seeing the purple and yellow, and become comfortable with it over time.
    And dont give up on the ethnics. I am sure many will see that more immigration is bad for them too. We have to woo them from the labour tit.

  15. Frank P May 6th, 2013 – 16:27

    Frank P ends his excellent post with:- Our political class are currently populated by more charlatans, thieves and queers and traitors (perm any two or three from the four in the case of most of ‘em) than at any time during my lifetime. Ordure! Ordure!”

    He is of course quite right however it reminded me of a conundrum that has been on my mind for some time, if the male population of the UK has an approximate 4% of homosexuals (Frank uses the better word queers) how is it that there are so many of these people; a disproportional amount in the Houses of Parliament?

  17. As they say in Hertfordshire;a hedgehog is slow to catch on,but when they do, it sticks.

  18. David O, the latest survey in 2010 found that only 1.5% considered themselves homosexual or bisexual. So your point is even more deserving of an answer. I remember reading the account of one man who had worked in the BBC and who had been encouraged very strongly to adopt a homosexual lifestyle as part of the required culture. After many years he woke up and realised that he was not homosexual at all but had been forced into playing a role to fit in with those in authority.

    We might well ask how come a very disproportionate quantity of those calling themselves homosexuals are found in management at the BBC and in Parliament. But should perhaps also ask how come a depraved sexual culture seemed to be accepted and even facilitated at the BBC, and ask if these two are connected.

  22. John Richardson 18[33 “there’s the excitement of a long journey to offset things a little.” As someone who has flown around the world several times, and flown to Asia many times, long journeys hold not the smallest thrill for me- There is nothing to offset the mind-numbing boredom of changing planes, and filing through Immigration and queuing up for the next flight. Frankly, it made an interesting change when my flight was hijacked over Damascus once. That is how bored I was.

  25. John Richardson 18:33 … “However, there’s the excitement of a long journey to offset things a little.”

    There is no “excitement” in a long journey if you have done as many as I have. It is tedium and trouble. And it is even more trying with animals. If I could magic myself to Britain, I would do so, but I can’t.

  26. Alexsandr 6th, – 18:54

    “Hopefully people will get used to seeing the purple and yellow,”

    Please, noo-ooooo!

    ‘way back in June 1968 I was released from servitude and granted a short dose of ‘normality’. The next weekend, visiting a dance hall in my attempt to reconnect with the human race, I was gobsmacked, nay, appalled to see the finest examples of Belfast’s manhood cavorting around the dance floor wearing purple shirts and yellow ties, (or vice versa) and believing themselves at the forefront of young male fashion. (Belfast being Belfast, orange and blue was an acceptable alternative.) What had happened in my six months away…I dunno. Collective insanity?

    And, y’know, it made the puke show up even worse than on those who wore proper ‘threads’!

  27. “He (Cameron) is an oily, privileged empty PR suit. He could crawl under a snake’s belly without disturbing it.”

    I gather Frank P. doesn’t like Cameron!

  28. Frank Sutton @ 15:50

    How do you do that smooth “on the WSJ” link thing?

  29. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320389/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Arrest–ask-questions-later-How-dawn-raids-ransacking-houses-standard-operating-procedure.html

    This travesty of justice will continue until the dumb-f**ks in uniform start facing charges of unlawful arrest for using this legally-sanctioned short cut to avoid justifying their dubious actions.

    Once they have had to compensate a celebrity for the loss of their career and, hopefully, a few of the more stupid ones seen the cells from the wrong side of the door, the sooner they’ll pull their horns in and take a bit more care.

    Consider, these are same category of idiot that arrest a decent young man for acting in a public-spirited manner, eyt whine when the public ‘takes the law into their own hands’ and does the job properly!

  30. Frank P, May 6th, 2013 – 18:20

    There are some vintage Andy Carpark comments to be found in that Speccie blogs -Douglas Murray link. A trip down memory lane, a real treat. Apart from the rather clumsy censorship of some other trenchant comments, including yours, all that was missing was a gentlemanly ‘send up’ from Austin Barry.

  31. Frank P, May 6th, 2013 – 16:27

    “Our political class are currently populated by more charlatans, thieves and queers and traitors (perm any two or three from the four in the case of most of ‘em) than at any time during my lifetime. Ordure! Ordure!”

    True. These days it would appear that arse banditry is more or less compulsory for males who want to ‘get on’ in “Showbiz” – which now includes politics and the media as well as the pooforming arts.

  33. The Law on Arrest.Michael Zander QC.in a letter to The Times writes:an arrest is only lawful if it is necessary.A person willing to go to the station need not be arrested[Serious Crime and Security Act 2005 s24(4)…..also;PACE Code of Practice on Arrest[New Note2F:Oct.2012] says a suspect’s arrest is not necessary if the officer `is satisfied as to their identity and address……and they will attend voluntarily to be interviewed`.//Zander also writes that in Feb. Lord Hanningfield won damages”after the police arrived mob-handed…….at 6.45am”.

  34. Good on Nigel Lawson. A man who is not afraid to speak the truth.
    Pity he wasnt the best chancellor.

  35. If Peter Hitchens thinks that Nigel Farage is a charlatan, what does he think of Oskar Lafontaine who seems now to side with Mr. Farage after a 180 degree turn in the “whoops! sorry!” moment of the century. (See my post at 15:44 yesterday.) Does no one think that Lafontaine’s comment is significant? I think his story should be added to the fables. Or perhaps there is already one to cover this particular case Any votes?

  36. Clear Memories @ 03:37

    Just one of a series of dress rehearsals in the Anglosphere – like the recent exercise in quasi-martial law in Boston.

    A dress rehearsal for what…?

  38. I’m in the Post Office. They are struggling to make money. I am in a long queue and have been warned they will be shutting for lunch because of industrial action by the Marxist CWU.

    Insanity.

  39. I concur with those who are alarmed at the heavy handed (often media accompanied) arrest procedures that are adopted these days based merely allegations made by alleged victims, particularly years after the incidents when the alleged offences have taken place. Seems to me that often the ‘arrests’ themselves are fishing expeditions and a substitute of for the hard work that is necessary to garner evidence before arrest. And why is it necessary to arrive in para-military garb bristling with weapons in so may cases when the subsequent facts revealed indicate that it was almost certainly unnecessary.

    There was a time, in what now seems to be another country, when the police had to justify arrest before feeling collars, rather than after. One wonders whether the temptation to embroider the facts (by both alleged victims and police) after the act is now stronger as a result of it?

    Zander is not one of my favourite people, but he has a point in this regard. However, what he fails to point out is that once prosecutorial powers are removed from police and handed to a politicised CPS this is the sort of thing that is bound to happen. The police become mere functionaries in the process and their discretion removed and responsibility diluted accordingly.

    The other phenomenon that seems to have developed these days, is that of the police arriving at an address mob-handed, busting the door down and finding that the subject of the warrant is ‘not at home’. There was a time when the senior officer in charge of the case would have had his arse handed to him in a paper bag if he failed to ascertain by prior surveillance that chummy was at home before they turned his drum over. The loss of public confidence in both the police and the political system can be directly related to this Gestapo methodology.

    Farage should include in his manifesto a root and branch review of the CPS and question its very existence. To suggest that the police is less corrupt as a result of its responsibility being usurped by a bunch of second-rate, politicised lawyers is complete bollocks. The exact opposite is true. And I say ‘second-rate’ because, if they were any good, they would be working in private practice partnerships. And before anyone couples the phrase ‘pro bono publico’ and ‘lawyer’ into the same sentence; let me explain that the Dodo is extinct, also.

  40. So Cameron is hinting at a referendum on Europe sooner than 2017, well, if you believe that you will believe anything, It would be pointless having a referendum on our continued servitude as a vote to leave would be ignored. Cameron would go tripping off to Germany, and would return flapping a piece of paper in the breeze, just like Neville Chamberlain, another Prime Minister, who like Cameron was only too happy to sell his country down the river.

  42. In para two of my post 11:42 please emend ‘offenders’ to read ‘alleged victims.’

  43. And the ‘Sort that one out, Champollion’ award for ancient cryptic blog posts goes to …

    Frank P

    ‘John Bowman

    But Socrates never simulated sex with a traffic warden and got himself posted on You Tube either John:

    However the peripatetic old pouftah would probably have romped in the showers at Penn State University though.’

    (Daniel Korski, In Defence of Technocrats 17.11.11)

  44. Malfleur – those links: Follow this link and you should find it all explained under the heading HTML Link Syntax. As seen in one of my posts above, if any detail is wrong it just creates a mess!

  45. Stephen Mayberry writes …. “So Cameron is hinting at a referendum on Europe sooner than 2017,”

    Well Cameron is not just a liar; he’s a bad liar. He’s a transparent liar who imagines he is cunning and sly.

  46. I’ve never believed a single word Cameron says about anything. He can hint at referendums in any year he likes till he is blue in the face, and he still won’t get my vote. Once bitten, twice shy. Whatever he says now is to be ignored. He is a centre-left socialist, a pathetic wimp and not fit to be a leader of a pop group, let along PM.
    Roll on 2015.

  47. I think your referrence to Cameron not being fit to be a leader of a pop group, Leley C, was a little harsh on leaders of pop groups. It is the leaders that engineer the group to appeal to popular taste, choose the songs they record and how they perform those songs on stage.

    Leaders of pop groups are very, very clever indeed. Can you sincerely imagine, for one split second, David Cameron being the front man for a pop group that has to please its fans with every album and every TV interview? Also, leaders of pop groups seem to inevitably have a quick sense of humour.

    Dave couldn’t qualify on any count.

  48. Frank Sutton @ 15:00

    Thanks! I’ll give it a try, if I can understand it.

  50. According to the Daily Mail, Cameron has been warned that some Tories are threatening to defect to UKIP.

    I think that UKIP should perhaps be rather careful about which Tories they accept. Just imagine – if he were in enough of a panic, might Cameron himself declare that he was considering joining UKIP? I wouldn’t put it past him.

  51. The people of Arizona are trying to follow Utah in legislating for gold and silver to become legal tender. This is of course provided for in the United States Constitution but who in America’s government pays any attention to that fossil? As someone told me in England in January when they argued that the right to bear arms under the Second Amendment had led to a standing army an should be abolished- “We must evolve”. Governor Brewer of Arizona is one of those who believes that the people evolved when they abandoned gold and silver as legal tender and has so far blocked the people’s will in returning to that antediluvian position.

    Does anyone remember those shillings, sixpences, florins and half-crown? When I was a boy there were also a few silver coins kept in the house dating back to George III – beautifully crafted, large, heavy pieces. I wonder what those sixpences which showed up in the Christmas pudding awould be worth today.

    Of course, there is perhaps too little of these precious metals in existence to represent the myriad transactions in the world’s economy and any way the super-rich (yes, they exist) are buying it up now on artificially induced dips in the price which scare the less rich to offload their holdings at the lower prices.

    China’s government however is buying gold hand over fist. I wonder why. Our own maladministration last mentioned gold as a national asset from 1999 to 2002 when Gordon Brown, the brilliant economist then our Chancellor of the Exchequer inder the Not-Socialist New Labour, dumped it to bail out the banks, giving prior notice of his intention and holding an auction, at the bottom of the market when prices were between $256 and $296 an ounce.

    Now Utah has adopted gold as legal tender, Arizona is trying to move its Governor out of the road, brewer-stops-plans-to-make-gold-silver-legal-tender-in-arizona/a> and the Germans have asked the USA for their gold back – “Sure, but it will take seven years before we can do that” was the reply…

    Can we ask Mr. Nigel Farage to enquire into the country’s present gold (and silver?) reserves and whether they are sufficient, to opine on the role of precious metals in the new economy which is lumbering towards us and take a position on the extent to which precious metals should be accumulated by government in anticipation of a collapse in paper currencies? The silence of government on the subject could be valuably filled by a man who made his money in commodity trading which included the metals.

    If you had been a Cypriot or a British expatriate in Cyprus earlier this year, would you have rather have had most of your savings in the Bank of Cyprus or in Canadian gold and silver maple leaf coins under your bed?

    But no doubt the political silence will continue.

  53. Herbert Thornton 01:34 … Only if he thought he could slither in under the carpet as leader. Cameron’s as slimy as Tony Blair, and that’s going it some.

  54. The Quasi-Tories have got their kickers in such a twist that they are in danger of strangling themselves. They plan to help prevent illegal immigrants getting a hold in our homeland by making private landlords responsible for checking out that their proposed tenants are indeed entitled to be here collecting all the ‘goodies’. All very good, but who checks the private landlords? How many of them are here legally? How many will squeal about fellow countrymen as they arrive in hordes filling up property in Hounslow, Bradford, Tower Hamlets and all other destinations west of Suez?

  56. AWK. @7.25

    I’d not heard of that suggestion. Ridiculous!

    This crud smacks of the torrent of inititiatives the incontinent Blairites spewed out. Today’s hot air and tomorrow’s bad breath. The BMA and it’s staff for instance have repeatedly said that they will not act as the gatekeepers of immigration and health fraud/tourism. That’s state funded employees refusing to apply government laws. The same goes for Local Housing Authorities who refuse to produce statistics which will prove their illegal activities in establishing foreign nationals in UK assets ahead of indigenes.

    The idea that those landlords (especially fellow sub-continentals) coining it in those shanty towns in West London are going to work against their financial and cultural interests is risible. How will it be enforced? – of course it won’t and can’t.

    More grist to the UKIP mill i hope.

  57. Andy Car Park, May 7th, 2013 – 13:35

    And the ‘Sort that one out, Champollion’ award for ancient cryptic blog posts goes to …

    Frank P
    ‘John Bowman
    But Socrates never simulated sex with a traffic warden and got himself posted on You Tube either John:
    However the peripatetic old pouftah would probably have romped in the showers at Penn State University though.’
    (Daniel Korski, In Defence of Technocrats 17.11.11)

    Since nobody else took up your cryptic challenge …

    1. The vintage piece of Krapski you quoted was about Mario Monti. He was the Gauleiter appointed by Frau Merkel to run Italy after she successfully forced Berlusconi to resign and postponed their general election until further notice. (Mm, wonder where she got that idea from)

    2. The amusing incident involving Silvio Berlusconi and a Traffic Warden was this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD3lilnGiL8

    3. The reference to Socrates is NOT, it must be made clear, about the brilliant Brazilian midfield footballer but about the Greek philosopher who according to Monty Python:
    “Socrates himself is particularly missed, A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he’s pissed.”

    4. Penn State? In America, so thankfully no Brits involved. Move along there.

    Where are they now? After nearly two years of trying to rescue the Italian economy from the Euro – and failing – Mario Monti gave up and decided to give Democracy another chance. Quitter!

    Krapski? Last I heard, he had got a job as a foreign policy advisor to Baroness (my arse!) Ashton.

    “No…., no…., dont mock” etc.

  58. Hexhamgeezer
    May 8th, 2013 – 08:34
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk › News › Politics
    Yes, it sounds too crazy to be true. The link above shows that this lunacy will appear in the Queen’s Speech today. Poor Queen, having to quote such rubbish. This dedicated regal lady deserves better!

  59. Malfleur: Jan Brewer is good on the Liberals in the White House

    “Speaking of national politics, I hear that President Obama is considering making Bastille Day a national holiday. That’s the day the French stormed the federal prison … and let the prisoners go free.
    The president likes the concept, and thinks that his test program in border states has worked out well.”

    And Joe Biden … what can you say about him?
    He’s a huge movie buff … he really loved that Zero Dark Thirty. I hear he was on the edge of his seat wanting to see how it would end!”

    But a bit yellow herself on guns

    On April 18, 2011, Governor Jan Brewer vetoed two bills one which set a mandate that anyone running for President must have proof of U.S. citizenship and the other being a bill which allowed guns on college campuses.

  60. Apparently tomorrow (May 9) is Europe Day. I see Lady Euro has updated her site for the occasion, including some new flags to fly. I understand she is quite happy for anyone to help themselves to pictures on the site to use elsewhere,

  61. With all the important news, the BBC in its wisdom, gave precedence to the retirement of Ferguson on BBC TV 1 News at 1:00 p.m. today. Even before the Queen’s speech! It truly is the Bloody Bolshie Corporation.

  62. Alas Anne, it is still unfortunately the British Broadcasting Corporation, a shining example of what this country has become, panem et circusi, or to put it into the vernacular, the dole and Jeremy Kyle.

  63. Frank Sutton@May 8th, 2013 – 13:14

    Where did she get that awful web page from. and the photo at the bottim must be the most unatractive one. Jees and we pay this muppet.

  65. stephen maybery

    May 8th, 2013 – 14:
    Yes, Stephen, it is truly shameful. Saw that wretched Patton in TV the other night – disgusting man. Wonder when the Night of The Long Knives will finger him? !

  68. John Jefferson Burns @ 11:22

    The best Americans are a few steps ahead of us on a number of issues.

    On July 4th, there will be an “open carry” march across the bridge from Virginia into Washington DC.

    I think we should support it.

  72. Alan Johnson was on Simon Mayos show on R2 this evening. Throw away line at the end when he derided current politicians all from the same degree, schools etc. He said he couldnt become a minister today and that needs fixing, he said. He is one of the few labour politicians I respect.

  73. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    May 8th, 2013 – 15:14

    Remember the poor man is at the BBC and don’t wish the treatment Clarkson hasn’t received on him!

  74. Radford NG @ 17:14

    Although I wouldn’t want to downplay the importance of Ascension Day, it happens every year. The open carry march in the USA on 4th July, will be a first – and possibly a last.

    The march is to be an assertion of the right to bear arms under the Second Amendment of the US Constitution. The participants will have a core of perhaps 2,500 who will have loaded guns slung over their shoulders. They plan to assemble at the National Cemetery which, it will be remembered, is on land which formerly comprised the family estate of Robert E. Lee. The path of the march is to cross the bridge into Washington from the Virginian side and to circle peaceably through the capital passing Congress and the White House and returning whence it came.

    By crossing into Washington DC, the marchers will place the government in a difficult position. It opposes the right of citizens to bear arms in the capital District which by contrast the United States Supreme Court has confirmed.

  78. Clear Memories
    May 9th, 2013 – 00:00
    I suppose we should be merciful. Working at the BBC must be like being in Dante’s Inferno.

  79. Nadine Dorries being given back the whip brings to mind a question that has long puzzled me – how is withdrawing the whip a punishment? It sounds like a liberation to me.

  84. All Wallsters of a certain age – the male ones, anyway (even those a little uncertain of their gender) must click over to Alex Boot and read his latest post. It made me cross my legs and grit my teeth, having recently had a contretemps with the local urologist about ‘possible outcomes’ as they quaintly indemnify themselves these days, during such discussions. This Great Creator: the omnipotent, omnescient thingy that we keep hearing about, has a lot to answer for regarding the design of the reproductive kit installed in we ‘oomans – I’m sure even the ladies of this parish could agree with that.

  85. Malfleur (05:22 et seq.)

    I watched the Benghazi testimony live on Fox yesterday afternoon. I’m surprised that the three witnesses didn’t rise up in unison and crush the empty skull of Cummings, remove his entrails and use them to strangle every other ‘Democrat’ present.

    The saddest part of this whole disgraceful debacle is that the US electorate still poll favourably for both Obama and the Clinton witch. They truly are a fucked-up nation!
    What difference does it make? Indeed so Hill.

  86. Frank P & Malfleur

    Thank you both for your continuing willingness to shine a light on this debacle.

    Benghazi seems such an appalling dereliction of duty that honour should dictate the senior Democrats should resign. Yet, they instead brazenly pretend that the brutal killing of their countrymen is of no real consequence: quite surreal.

  87. Redneck and Frank P

    I understnd that the Benghazi hearings only went ahead as a result of pressure from the families. Another comment was that the Republicans had disgraced themselves by permitting the testimony to be cramped into a single day instead of being given air to breathe over a two or three day period.

    It would not surprise me to hear that some American Special Services people will be participating in thr open carry march on July 4th.

  88. Hope you’ve all read this thoughtful piece by Greenfield:

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/the-road-to-nowhere.html

    Requires thinking caps and two cups of coffee; translates very neatly (in parts) to our own situation.

    Sad that we have to spend so much time sifting through our own media output just to extract from between the lines what strokes our own devious bastards of the political class are trying to perpetrate against hoi polloi (not to mention what hoi polloi are lazily letting them get away with) when we could be spending more time reading sages like Mr Greenfield.

    So little time, so much to do. And what difference does it make, Hillary?

    Particularly when the current downward dive on the switchback car that we are all riding in will not take an upward turn in the lifetimes of most of us here: I suppose we just have to learn to enjoy the gut-wrenching fear that it engenders before shitting out at the buffers – or being frit to death before it happens?

    Then what Peter? The eternal peace of Oblivion? The rewards of the Greater Communion? Or the recycling of the same old, same old … into perpetuity? The infinite blogpost. Gawd help us all! (If only there was one and supposing He’d be interested in doing so…?)

    Perhaps Nadine Dorries will show us the way.

  89. FYI, I contacted Barbara Hewson, asking for a post responding to the controversy that has erupted after her Spiked article. She was kind enough to reply but is already writing a response for Spiked. I tried.

    She has interesting form as she stood up to oppose Judges wearing the Muslim veil in court. I think much of what she says is the common sense we express here.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2321473/Legal-chambers-shock-human-rights-lawyer-calls-age-consent-lowered-13-end-persecution-old-men-wake-Savile-scandal.html

  90. Dan Collins uses the Necropolitan Sentinel to blast off in general about the interlaced ideologies of the Left and Islamic jihad – and in the overall context, about three-quarters of the way through his essay, sums up the Benghazi balls-up with a wonderful cameo:

    http://www.conservativecommune.com/2013/05/ideologically-induced-functional-retardation/#comments

    Extract:

    “Director of National Intelligence head James Clapper may not have been the person who altered the Benghazi talking points, but he certainly knows who did. Those points were stripped of all references to al Qaeda and its affiliates at the direction of Victoria Nuland, responding to pressure from her superiors, who did not wish to be held responsible for having repeatedly refused requests for better security from those on the ground in Benghazi. The Department of State was aware that al Qaeda affiliates were in Libya, they were aware of other attacks against Western targets, they were aware that Benghazi was a famous source of jihadists for radical Islam in all parts of the Muslim world, and they were aware that the US mission was essentially “the last flag flying” in that city. Despite knowing all those things, and despite the ominous warnings from the Ambassador and those responsible for security, and despite the local Islamist militia’s telling them that they would no longer provide cover, they went ahead and found a security firm that would provide guards who had no bullets, because their over-riding concern was that they not offend Libyans. When the compound was overrun, and the survivors made it to their fallback location to be attacked again, they did nothing. Leon Panetta subsequently claimed that nothing could be done, and the lapdog media lapped up this spilled saucer of shinola with relish. The pivot from overriding concern for the sensitivities of Libyans to CYA was so abrupt that Susan Rice went on Face the Nation to contradict the Libyan President, who had appeared minutes before and told America that the murders in Benghazi had been carried out by Islamist terrorists. Even now, Clapper cannot bring himself to tell America who those terrorists were. As Charles Krauthammer astutely surmised, Obama blessed State’s fictions because it was convenient in the context of his election campaign. He’d been at pains to show that the execution of bin Laden demonstrated that al Qaeda was “on the run” throughout the globe. Al Qaeda had other messaging ideas.”

    [end of extract]

    But please read it all; Dan is always worth following, but I have to warn you, he, like me, is madderer than hell – ‘cept he’s erudite and clever, with it. . Another one of the blogroll, Peter?

  91. In regard to suggestions for blogrolls.

    I’ve added some over the last few days, but if I pick up posts on my phone I sometimes miss taking care of such requests later.

    Without overwhelming the site or the list with too many blogs, perhaps if you have requested one be added and it hasn’t been you will remind me here or by email to peter@coffeehousewall.co.uk

  93. Malfleur 15:55 … Texas has already had an open carry law for several years now (passed wgeb -George Bush was governor of Texas) and it is a sterling example of crime reduction. Good for the folks up north demanding their own open carry law! It makes a real difference in crime reduction.

  95. Alexandr @1515

    Rather impressive that Mr Cameron. He manages to invoke slugs weasels and snakes in a single para.

    I shall write to my MP (tory). Here”s the answer btw to save you waiting. “While being jolly annoyed at the EU and a sceptic to my very bones I shall not support the Amendment as it lacks ‘coherence'” Coherence is the standard CCHQ language used when brushing off fruitcakes lunatics and closet racists like myself when enquiring about matter EU.

  96. At least someone is trying to make sense of our energy policy:

    Britain can’t afford to surrender to the greens on shale gas
    If we give in to the green lobby, Britain will drift into an energy crisis
    by Peter Lilley
    http://www.spectator.co.uk/features/8905731/the-only-way-is-shale/

    While over in Germany, its full steam head, with a possibility that the answer could be ‘both’:
    Germany — Insane Or Just Plain Stupid?
    “After the tsunami destroyed the Fukushima plants, Germany moved quickly to shut eight nuclear power plants, and made plans do away completely with their nuclear capability. Despite the best safety record of any industry in the country, and the critical role nuclear plays in fueling German industry, Germany’s past experience with large tsunamis was just too horrific to ignore. And Germany’s strong economy and commitment to protect the environment were small prices to pay for Chancellor Merkel to shore up her weak coalition with the Free Democrats. Maybe she can ask Greece for help later.” (…and continues in the article.)
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2012/08/31/germany-insane-or-just-plain-stupid/

  97. RobertC@May 9th, 2013 – 18:08

    I thought Peter Lilley made excellent sense there. Why we are not embracing this technology is beyond me.

  98. It is VE Day today. It once meant something. Haven’t heard it mentioned on any media anywhere today. Lest we forget? Is it perhaps because the ‘V’ element has turned out to be somewhat hollow – and the ‘E’ element has become a dirty word to most UK patriots.

  100. Whoops! Belay that. I’m reading yesterday’s newspaper.
    Backdate the remarks, please, they still apply, senior moment notwithstanding.

  101. Frank P
    May 9th, 2013 – 21:17
    Know what you mean. Awful thought: Hitler would have rejoiced in the EU. No individual countries, only central dictatorship. One currency and control on every aspect of life.

  102. “Victory Day” was celebrated today in Red Square and in Stalingrad.(Russia Today;Freeview 85 and i-net)…..And in Wester Ross veterans of the Murmansk convoys where given recognition for the first time.(BBC 24.Freeview 80)

  103. What I am watching now on BBC 1 TV, QT, makes the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party appear as The Symposium! Alas, who the gods want to destroy they first make mad.

  105. AWK 1 9th, – 23:03

    QT?

    You shoulda been watching the love-fest between Esler and some creepy lefty yank called Cornel West on the other side…truly a QED moment for leftist bias and bullsh*t.

  106. Ostrich (occasionally)
    May 9th, 2013 – 23:41
    Nobody tells me anything. Have a headache from the rubbish on QT so am off to bed. Goodnight, all CHWallers!

  107. Another Benghazi broadside:

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/08/hillary-clintons-big-benghazi-lie-n1591097?utm_source=feedly

    Wonderful synopsis of the damning essentials of the cover-up.

    And Dan Collins sets up a clever and telling pictorial juxtaposition of Hillary Clinton posing the question “What did the President know and when did he know it” (Nixon that is, back in 1974) and “What difference does it make” (2013).

    Ding dong, the witch is dead! She must not succeed Obama into the White House. Problem with impeaching Obama is that it would mean Biden would then have the Red telephone.

  109. Alexsandr – 20:02 ‘Peter Lilley made excellent sense there’

    But you already know why we are not embracing this technology!

    It is because it makes excellent sense and the whole edifice created by the Alarmists would come tumbling down, including all the State sponsorship.

    Here is a document that lists many of the puzzling incidents that need to be resolved, one way or the other. It is not a definitive list and while, on its own, it does not ‘prove’ the argument, it does show how the authorities have been economical with the truth:

    http://www.sintef.no/upload/Teknologi_og_samfunn/Teknologiledelse/SINTEF%20Report%20A24071,%20Consensus%20and%20Controversy.pdf

  110. Benghazigate watchers, check out Melanie’s latest: Welcome to Obamastan. http://www.melaniephillips.com/
    Probably the best summing up so far.
    (and thanks to Frank P the other day for the links to the excellent Clare M. Lopez stuff.)

  111. Michael Roberts (10:42)

    Yep, Melanie’s synthesis is excellent, as always. Sadly the MSM over there is still very much in the tank for both Obama and his anointed successor, so it’s unlikely that the scandal will have the legs to impeach Obama, or block Clinton’s succession. The Alinskyites are holding all the main levers. If the Fort Hood debacle didn’t raise the ire of ‘middle class’ America, what chance this extra-territorial one? And Clare Lopez’s report becomes even more significant.

    Melanie will be written off over there as a Leftist apostate; a traitor to the cause. Even O’Reilly (with his ‘fair and balanced’ shtick) keeps giving Obama a pass, by asserting that there is no evidence so far to link Obama directly with the order to hang the Ambassador and his staff out to dry, or with his complicity in Susan Rice’s egregious bollocks about the video/demo. That is daft. It is inconceivable that Obama was not in the loop from the get-go. And even if credulity is stretched to the possibility that he was kept in the dark, it is worse; that would prove that he is in fact just a cipher; the mouthpiece; the front man for the Alinsky disciples and his wife the ultimate minder. Just as Hillary was, during Clinton’s Presidency.

    We really are in the grip of the Long Marchers. And most Western leaders, who have been through the academic brainwasher, are comfortable with that. Which is why UKIP could be important, if it can get traction during the next couple of years.

    Perhaps Noa can ask Farage if he is aware of the Gramscian game plan and how he would sabotage it if he managed to turn the tide. Extraction from the EU treaty would of course be a good start.

  113. Frank P@May 10th, 2013 – 12:42

    Quangos are used by ministers to put operational stuff that may go wrong at arms length and therefore out of the blame of the minister. Like the Student Loans. If they were run by civil servants, then when they took action to recover debt that would be the ministers fault. We need to stop this. Ministers should be accountable for their policies, and this arms length stuff should be illegal.

  114. Frank P (12.42)

    Yes, that was another can tinkling down the road.

    And the Islamofascist Long March makes Mao’s look like a short walk in the park. And possibly killed even more of the poor buggers who got in the way, with a lot more to come absent a latter day Churchill.

    But this would be pleasing to Big Al.

    I am in the habit, possibly tiresomely, of paraphrasing Hill’s Bill in trotting out “It’s the Koran, stupid!” at any suitable Islamocritical juncture, and was rather gratified to hear the admirable Nonie Darwish doing exactly the same thing on The Glazov Gang a few days ago.

  115. Emma West [the Croydon tram woman]arrested in Nov 2011 has had her trial adjourned five times after pleading `not guilty`.There is a pre-trial hearing this afternoon on a procedure called `listed for mention`.Since being released on bail in Jan.2012 she has been arrested again for assaulting two police officers in her own home.

  116. Excellent thinking here, Frank P. I endorse every word, as I am sure so do the rest of us.

    “We really are in the grip of the Long Marchers. And most Western leaders, who have been through the academic brainwasher, are comfortable with that. Which is why UKIP could be important, if it can get traction during the next couple of years.

    “Perhaps Noa can ask Farage if he is aware of the Gramscian game plan and how he would sabotage it if he managed to turn the tide. Extraction from the EU treaty would of course be a good start.”

    Perfectly encapsulated.

  117. “Perhaps Noa can ask Farage if he is aware of the Gramscian game plan and how he would sabotage it if he managed to turn the tide. Extraction from the EU treaty would of course be a good start.”

    Sorry Wallsters. I’ve never met him, over a pint or otherwise. Feel free to ask the question directly though.

    http://nigelfaragemep.co.uk/

  118. Radford NG May 10th, 2013 – 16:21

    “Emma West. Since being released on bail in Jan.2012 she has been arrested again for assaulting two police officers in her own home.”

    Well that will be their word against hers, I wonder what they did to cause her concern?

  119. Must be brief as my laptop crashed and I’m working at my husband’s Mac. The latest news from rural England demonstrates just what diversity is. No “Shropshire Lad” but seven stinking Pakis convicted for trading under-age English girls, passing them around to other men, and pimping them all over the North. The police and judiciary emphasise that there was nothing racial in these crimes. Hmmmm!

  121. Hexhamgeezer 10th, – 21:39

    What must the level of self esteem of these girls be that they fall for these pulsating lumps of flesh in the first place…I mean, they’re all so UGLY!!!

  122. David Ossitt 10th, – 19:47

    “she has been arrested again for assaulting two police officers in her own home.”

    Que? I thought assaulting intruders in your own home was OK now???

  123. Re: Bengazi.

    The first Hillary Clinton attack ad of the 2016 campaign?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY6KE6dI5vc

    Let’s hope there’s more on the way.

    That awful clip of her spouting “What diferences does it make?” with a large caption underneath reading “NEVER AGAIN” would also be good.

  125. The Telford Asian child prostitution ring: It was fairly high up in BBC Radio news most of yesterday, and it described the men as of Pakistani descent. But I hear it’s received little or no coverage elsewhere. The police added that the crime was not racially motivated. Funny that.

  126. Ostrich (occasionally) @ – 23:10
    Money and drugs are quite powerful stimulants. Especially when you haven’t got any.

  127. No information around on Emma West apart from a rumour the case has been adjourned again.

  128. I’ve just started a new job helping a one armed woman Type capital letters It’s SHIFT work

  129. The Circus is coming to town;send in the clowns!…..The BILDERBERG conference(2013) is to be held at the Grove Hotel,Watford,Herts. on the 6th to 9th June.This is reported in the *Watford Observer*.The 227 rooms are all booked.The Herts. police[who will be picking-up the cost]have hired the local rugby club as their base.Alternative information is at *Bilderberger 2013*……”Send in the clowns”is the cry that goes-up at the Circus if something bad happens (in the ring).

  130. Alexsandr – First, and only, laugh of the day … moving day. Nothing is funny on moving day, but this did the trick.

  132. Well, there it was, loud and clear this morning on ‘BH’…how they’re going to close down the debate on immigration. Apparently we’re all closet racists.

  134. By the way, I am listening to BBC 3. A recording by the Amadeus Quartet of Beethoven’s String Quartet in A minor, Op. 132 which the composer headed “A Convalescent’s Holy Song of Thanksgiving to the Divinity, in the Lydian Mode”.

    Now if you had to believe Beethoven or… who would you choose?

  135. “…most of our economic problems are derived directly from two, failed policies: excessive money-printing and excessive debt…”

    Jeff Nielson “Insanity Cubed”
    http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_12/nielson050913.html

    “We are now at “insanity cubed.”

    1) Repeating a failed strategy again and again.
    2) Employing the same Failures to continue repeating that failure.
    3) Continuing to repeat the same Cycle of Failure even after we have conclusive, mathematical proof that this is now economic suicide.

    In our original definition of “insanity”; it was conceded that this could be interpreted as (mere) stupidity instead. Likewise, instead of concluding that our political leaders, bankers, economists, and media talking-heads represent the most-deranged group of Lunatics in history; there is another conclusion consistent with the facts.

    Massive, endemic corruption. With money-printing stretched to the brink of hyperinflation, with debt-creation taking us all to the brink of bankruptcy; what are we now being told by our Traitor Politicians?

    Bail-outs are out. “Bail-ins” are in. With nothing left to be plundered in our Public Treasuries, the intentional insolvency created-and-increased by the Traitor Politicians is now their pretext for stealing (paper) assets directly from the private accounts of individuals…except for the Very Wealthy. As we have seen with the Cyprus Steal; the Oligarchs receive timely “warnings” well before any plundering takes place – so their wealth can be shifted to safety.

    Readers have two, rational conclusions open to them: our leaders are a collective group of deranged Lunatics; our leaders are a collective group of (bought-and-paid-for) Traitors. There are no other conclusions which are consistent with the facts. Given that new, massive, financial crimes are being reported every day; I’ll leave it to readers to decide which conclusion is the more plausible.”

    (ibid.)

  136. Malfleur – 10:56 ‘excessive money-printing and excessive debt’
    It is even worse than that. ::)

    Our leaders may be corrupt, a collective group of deranged lunatics, traitors or all three, but who votes them in?

    And there is a step 4:
    4) Continuing to accumulate and announce conclusive, mathematical proof that this is now economic suicide, and STILL repeat the same Cycle of Failure.

  139. Ostrich (occasionally)@May 12th, 2013 – 10:35

    didnt hear that, care to pen a short summary? Please?

  140. TREASON IN THE ANGLOSPHERE – Benghazi and the Navy Seals and the islamists – the patriots hit back

    Michael Savage was banned from entering the United Kingdom to speak here, presumably on the orders of the US administration. Here he is on 9th May on Benghazi and the murder of six Navy Seals

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc3wF7rsae8&list=UUGQ29J4BOwYWcQWMx_lMiWw

    Here is a report from and the hearing at the National Press Club to which Savage refers:

    http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2013/05/live-report-families-of-fallen-navy-seals-press-conference-blames-obama-and-his-dod-for-their-deaths.html

  141. Malfleur 12th, – 10:43

    “The debate on immigration – has it started?”

    OK, then; they’re trying to strangle it before birth…does that suit you better?

  142. Alexsandr 12th, – 13:02

    “didnt hear that, care to pen a short summary? Please?”

    Not much to summarise, but it’s what I took from the first short segment, which pitted some loquacious lefty against Priti Patel.

  143. “Two great lies have dominated British politics since the 1960s, and it has now become impossible to repeat them. The first lie – propagated by the Labour Party – is that mass immigration is a positive benefit, and that anyone who resists it is a racist, a fascist, a Little Englander or worse. The second lie – propagated by the old guard of the Tory Party – is that the European Union is a free-trade agreement whose economic benefits far outweigh any minor social costs.”

    http://conservativehome.blogs.com/thinkers_corner/2013/05/roger-scruton-truth-in-politics.html

  144. Ostrich (occasionally) @ 13:32

    I would say that neither has a debate on immigration been closed down and neither has such a debate been strangled before birth. No political grouping of serious weight has attempted to debate the matter. They have all avoided a debate, which would involve a free flow of ideas and information; of point and counterpoint – followed by a vote and action!

    On the other hand, every such grouping has in maundering fashion deplored adverse consequences of immigration,agreed that something should be done, have suggested that it has its good side as well as its bad side blah, blah blah, has stayed away entirely from the problem of immigration from muslim countries and also from the question of whether the “New Labour Party” deliberately, as a matter of party policy, gerrymandered the national constituency by opening the national door to prospective constituents from among the needy and greedy from across the world (or “huddled masses yearning to breathe free”) in the belief that this would give them a permanent majority at the county and national level and as though the United Kingdom were the USA of the mid-19th century with land grants for all and the wagons rolling West into unlimited territory crying out for settlers among the Red Indians.

    This is not a debate, so that there was nothing to be strangled at birth, just as there is nothing to be closed down now.

  149. DEWSBURY ???:Article by Dewsbury-ite in Mail-on-line[scroll to bottom of page].She writes of Andrew Neather and New Labour’s dispersal policy which had huge numbers of asylum-seekers sent to small towns and villages in West Yorks.;so families that had been there for generations found themselves living next to large numbers of young male asylum seekers.

  154. Interesting that Gove and Hammond have both said that they would vote to leave the EU if there were a referendum now.

    I think that the genie is out of the bottle and the cat is among the pigeons.

  156. “I think that the genie is out of the bottle and the cat is among the pigeons.”

    And Pandora’s box has been opened? My! The fur WILL be flying!

    Or maybe they’re just bullshittin’ and trying to pull the wool over our eyes … again? They think the electorate is stooo-pid. Sadly they are correct. But not stooo-pid enough to vote for them again, we hope. But then, as the next POTUS would say, “What difference does it make.” Next time, whoever you vote for, you’ll get more of the same. Unless … unless … are you ready, Mr Farage?

    Stop the pint, fags and titfer, shtick, chum. Everyone has got that message. Let’s see some gravitas, now. The steely glint, rather than the inane grin. Time to step up to the plate. And what’s your opinion on Islam and the terrorist threat? Are you proposing to arm our enemies as all our current ‘leaders’ seem determined to do? Have you read the Clare Lopez report? It’s the real deal.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3672/muslim-brotherhood-us-government#_ftn1

    Immigration is a problem, certainly, but it’s the immigration of people that want to kill us or suborn us that is the greatest threat. Far too many of them here already – and we’re still pussyfooting around talking about ‘moderate Muslims’ – a.k.a. Taqiyya Tricksters. It’s in the book…

  157. I’m touched by your faith in the Roman Catholic Church as a mystical force to combat Islamic jihad by Canonisation of long-dead victims. How did Stalin put it, “How many divisions does the Pope have?” I think Uncle Joe had canons of a different shade of meaning in mind. An organisation that has more perverts per capita that even the BBC is hardly the force to take on Islam. And another thing … the last paragraph of the piece you cite:

    “Later this month an Italian priest, Fr Giuseppe Puglisi, who was murdered by the Sicilian mafia 20 years ago will be beatified – the last step before being declared a saint.”

    The Mob usually confine murders to people who have double crossed them. The Pope would probably be better employed getting his current Cardinals and priests extracted from the financial connections with the various chapters of Cosa Nostra around the world. For the whole time I investigated Organised Crime, both as a cop and a TV journalist, the Vatican Bank was a money laundry for the Mob; and every Catholic charity in every major city of the US of A was knee deep in Mob filthy lucre.

    I’m afraid the Mullahs and the Cardinals have much in common; not necessarily religion, though.

  158. Ostrich (occasionally) 10.35 … “Apparently we’re all closet racists.” Well, I, for one, have come out of the closet. Anyone who pretends to deny that races have characteristics is still, sadly, in the closet.

  159. Frank P writes:

    ” Far too many of them here already – and we’re still pussyfooting around talking about ‘moderate Muslims’ – a.k.a. Taqiyya Tricksters. ”

    So what’s your plan, Frank. Let’s not be all mouth and no trousers now. You won’t support the English Defence League in their decision to demonstrate in Newcastle on 25th May no doubt for the “reasons” given earlier this year and among the toffs who are speaking out you’re agin Douglas Murray because he’s “a poufter” – as though that had anything to do with the price of halal eggs.

    We get an idea of the idea of the police mind in dealing with sedition by islam in the dispiriting article in the NER linked by Noa above:

    “The rugby team were more stubborn. Vandalism became normal. The pitch would be littered with broken glass which had to be cleared before every match. Pieces of jagged metal would be deliberately embedded in the turf, in particular around the try lines where players would slide across the grass. The police encouraged them to find other premises and eventually they did so.”

    Is this Frank P’s solution to the problem the English have: “Find other premises; move along there”?

    Here is a Panorama report on Sharia law in Britain brought to you by courtesy of the football hooligans:

    http://englishdefenceleague.org/edl-news-2/1881-shariah-courts-in-britain

    I think the question which must be placed on the agenda is whether the ideology of islam is consistent with the principles of English law and, if not, how and when it it should be banned.

    Or we could find other premises.

  160. Frank P @ 01:33

    I think the Polish Communist Party found out how many divisions the Pope had – sufficient to overthrow it and put it on the rubbish dump of history.

  162. Still without my own computer! I see that Huhne and Pryce have been released from prison. Now they will be free to leech off the public once again and even write books on their time in HM holiday camps.

  163. How nice to know that Huhne and Pryce have completed their vacation, compliments of H.M holiday camps.

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