The Coffee House Wall – 6th/12th October

Posted on October 7, 2014

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173 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 6th/12th October”

  3. Interesting bit o gippo news , in my town of Colchester we have had the usual gippo problems but one fact I find interesting is that in the past gippos always managed to find gates that were unlocked, even though the owners seemed to think they were locked before the gippos arrived.
    It seems that little old fashioned lie to avoid a charge of breaking and entry is not needed any more.
    The local paper quite happily says that they tore down fences to get into the ground where they parked up ( in front of witnesses )
    But this seems to be of no importance to the police.
    Gippos were always usefull to quote when we were told the law of the land covered everyone.
    Now it seems there is a whole group of peoples who are exempt from laws which defiantly apply to white working people.
    BMW not insured taxed or registered, hardly worth mentioning .
    Not paying the vat to the tax man on takeaway food , it’s optional .
    Owning a very expensive car with no form of income, lucky him.
    How often do police check gippo vehicles for legality. ???

  5. This speech from Hannan is worth listening to, especially if you want to understand how awful the EU has become. His speech lasts about 42 minutes, with Q&A following. As to why he is still with the Tory Party is another matter, but he is an ally, a good source of information and new ideas which need to be checked, as always with all new ideas, and digested. He says (35:55 to 36:55) (with incredulity 🙂 ) that the only way to make progress is to leave:
    Dan Hannan MEP – The best solution to Britain’s relationship with the EU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fFluG6mATo

  6. RobertC – 19:08 ‘Hannan’

    The Q&A’s are amusing, especially the first!

    I added a post which was removed within 10 minutes, so I have added this:

    “Hannan says (35:55 to 36:55) (with incredulity) that the only way to make progress is to leave.

    This happens to be UKIP policy. It is because, as Hannan says, the current government has done NOTHING to progress the situation! Yes, NOTHING!

    The British people have run out of patience.”

    I expect it to follow the first!

  10. Private enterprise at its best:

    How a corporation stymied Ebola
    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/10/how_a_corporation_stymied_ebola.html

    In fact, better than the Spanish Government:

    Spanish nurse Ebola infection blamed on substandard gear and protocol lapse
    Staff at Madrid’s Carlos III hospital say protective suits do not meet WHO standards as second nurse undergoes tests for virus
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/07/ebola-crisis-substandard-equipment-nurse-positive-spain

  11. telemachus @ 09:16

    Totally abstruse, this and the other posting of yours that follows, to Baron anyway. Are you certain you are on the right blog, telemachus?

  12. Frank P @ 21:24

    Nowhere near, Frank, and not that it matters, but the black polo coat is by Versace, nothing poofty about it, mind, classical cut, pure mohair. It cost a fortune, was acquired in the times indulgence (by Baron) way back in the 80s, still looks pristine. The other is much cheaper wool job from Topman bought before the outfit was taken over by that fatty guy (name escapes), and went skinny and fashionable.

  13. Your niece should be made an honorary member of this blog, Frank, and should contribute more often. Her stories cheer Baron up, most of the rest is just bllody depressing.

  14. RobertC @ 22:39

    If there ever was a political puzzle personified he is it. Baron hasn’t made up his mind yet where to file him. As a writer, observer, commentator he’s superb, some of his ideas though are rather idealistic, unreachable.

  15. Baron October 8th, 2014 – 09:27

    “most of the rest is just bllody depressing”.

    Chin up Baron, nil desperandum and all that.

  16. Baron at 09-29.

    There’s an apocryphal story from the i-net to cheer you up.

    One of the Mets finest was in the witness box giving evidence.At the lunch break he was seen talking to another police witness.After lunch he was called back by the defence and the following exchange occurred:

    “Were you talking to the witness.”
    “Yes.”
    “What did you say.”
    “I told him the defence was a wanker and the poor bugger in the dock had got no chance.”

    The Judge decided this wasn’t contempt of Court.

  17. Baron – 09:31 ‘Hannan’

    In the first post on ConservativeWoman I suggested that he might be treating his membership of the European parliament as an academic post.

    The remuneration is (very) good, and being at the top of the Tory list (I think) and liked by many in his Party, he does have reasonable tenure. He is also close to the levers of power, at least geographically, and has a public presence.

    So why join UKIP? It is especially if you prefer the academic life to political fighting. It doesn’t mean he isn’t useful to the EU-phobes, as he has many good ideas, and being where he is, those in the front line can pick and choose without the MSM creating stories about internal infighting.

    Circumstances may change but, at the moment, let him do what he excels in doing. This latest speech is ideal UKIP material.

    As we agree, he is a puzzle, but while he puts forward good ideas (which need to be digested, not enacted without any thought), let him continue.

    He may also be more of an irritant to CMD where he is than if he changed parties. Did you listen to the Q&A session? That was very revealing. I would have thought that it would have embarrassed CMD even more than his speech!

  18. Baron – 09:31 ‘Hannan’

    In the first post on ConservativeWoman I suggested that he might be treating his membership of the European parliament as an academic post.

    The remuneration is (very) good, and being at the top of the Tory list (I think) and liked by many in his Party, he does have reasonable tenure. He is also close to the levers of power, at least geographically, and has a public presence.

    So why join UKIP? It is especially if you prefer the academic life to political fighting. It doesn’t mean he isn’t useful to the EU-phobes, as he has many good ideas, and being where he is, those in the front line can pick and choose without the MSM creating stories about internal infighting.

    Circumstances may change but, at the moment, let him do what he excels in doing. This latest speech is ideal UKIP material.

    As we agree, he is a puzzle, but while he puts forward good ideas (which need to be digested, not enacted without any thought), let him continue.

    He may also be more of an irritant to CMD where he is than if he changed parties. Did you listen to the Q&A session? That was very revealing. I would have thought that it would have embarrassed CMD even more than his speech!

  19. Peter

    The blog seems to have the hiccoughs, usually repeat posts won’t get past the software but automatically engender a polite message pointing out ‘repitition’. I think Nicholas Parsons moonlights for Word Press?

  20. Frank P – 14:47

    I have recently upgraded my mouse drivers and it appears that I get two clicks, very close together, so it is a super-double-click. It may have cross a threshold with its quickness.

  21. By twice electing a POTUS who is a political eunuch who has a contempt for America and a hatred of the American hegemony, the electorate have literally beheaded America – and with it Western Civilisation.

    The Muslim Brotherhood must be very satisfied with their ‘Manchurian Candidate’.

  24. A West Aussie and a Victorian were hunting in the north west when an abo runs across the field.
    The West Aussie takes careful aim, shoots, and kills him.
    “You can’t do that!” cried the Victorian.
    “No, no, it’s legal here in WA” replies the West Aussie.
    Later that night the Victorian goes and buys some beer and puts it on the roof of his ute to open the door.
    Just then an abo runs by, grabs the beer, and runs off.
    The Victorian thinks “No problem” draws his pistol, shoots, and kills him.
    As he is getting his beer the police come and arrest him.
    “But I thought it was legal to shoot abos in WA!” protests the Victorian.
    “Well yeah,” says the cop, “but you’re not allowed to use bait!!”

  25. I gather the tax office have miscalculated some tax codes and heads should roll.

    Can anyone think who might be able to take on this onerous task?

  27. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2786039/The-1-300-year-old-apocalyptic-prophecy-predicted-war-Islamic-army-infidel-horde-Syria-fuelling-ISIS-s-brutal-killers.html

    These ‘people’ can be placed in the same box as those that petitioned Tony Blair to have Dierdre Barlow released from jail! They cannot be reasoned with. Their version of the fairy story requires the death of all Jews and then the so-called ‘end of days’ before the appearance of the last prophet.

    Absolutely no need for boots on the ground, surely we have reached the point in human history again where the use of nuclear weapons is necessary and justified to rid the planet of this filth.

    Give us some leaders who can take decisions and bring this God-driven madness to an end so we can face the real problem of Ebola.

    Or, like all things, will the Creationists claim that is one of theirs as well.

  28. Saw a news clip this morning. Tracy Emin’s unmade bed has just gone for £2 million quid, bloody daft. Am I outraged? No. just inspired. Sod working for a living, I’m going to piss the bed then put it up for auction.

  30. I can visualise what would happen if the craven West actually attacked the IS. They would be accused of non-proportional warfare.

  31. David Ossitt @ 09:36

    You’re right, David, but the thing is the blue veined barbarian goes through times when the feeling everyone in this country has gone totally and irrevocably loopy gets totally overwhelming, (except for the few remaining of sound mind, contributing to this blog for inst.) As it happens, these times seem to have fused, melded into one continuous chain recently, hence the short rant of despair, but he’ll get over it, he alwaysa has .

  33. RobertC @ 13:32

    Good points, Robert, except that what we need desperately is not a ‘talker’ but a ‘doer’, he seems to be an excellent thinker, writer (Baron still prefers the style of Frank though, more punchy), communicator, articulates stuff well, certainly better than many others, but we need someone who can accomplish things like for inst. taking over the British Legion, making it the force to fight for the way oflife we had, calling for people to march for Britain when the occasion demands it (like now: refuse entry to those who went to join IS).

  34. There seems to be a general acceptance that Ebola is coming our way, no surprise there for they who are able to think, even less surprising that nothing is being done to isolate the cause of this plague, i.e. West Africa. Am I the only one who is thinking of pestilences’ of the past, say for example, the black Death? Of course one must not call it so. Racist.

  36. I have sent an email to Jeremy Hunt, Minister of Health, and I hope it will be considered seriously:
    Dear Mr. Hunt,

    While Ebola is getting great media coverage, here in the U.K. we are facing the shameful return of T.B. This hideous disease, which a few decades ago was thought to have been dispatched to the history books, is spreading here at an alarming rate. We already have the highest level of the disease in the developed world, including the whole of the USA.

    Mr. Hunt, I regret to write that the British public, and I include the native born have some of the most unhygienic habits imaginable. It is quite common for people to cough and sneeze without the use of covering their noses and mouths with tissues. Travel on a bus or crowded tube train and one can actually feel the nasal spray as it hits one’s face! Visit a shop, a bank or any other public place, even a chemist’s shop, and one will see the assistants putting a hand over their faces, rather than a tissue. Those who think they are being hygienic, will use their elbows or sleeves. This is very common in clinics and used by receptionists.

    I believe that if paper tissues were available free, much T.B. could be stopped from spreading. As a child during the war, I remember the old motto “Coughs and sneezes spread diseases, trap the germs in your handkerchief”. Spitting was also punished by heavy fines, and the law was actually enacted. It will be said that these tissues would cost a lot of money which the country does not have. Solution – very heavy fines actually applied, to those who continue to cough and sneeze without covering their noses and mouths.

    Daily citizens risk their health from the filthy habits they encounter in their every day lives.

    Please consider this email seriously. I am not a crank, rather a well-educated woman who was a trained medical worker.

    Sincerely,

    Anne Wotana Kaye

  37. Baron – 10:54
    “… what we need desperately is not a ‘talker’ but a ‘doer'”

    You will find those in UKIP.

    QED

  38. Anne (12:42)

    Quite agree; moreover, when the head of CDC held a press conference yesterday – which was produced in a way which came straight from Orwell’s ‘1984” with ethereal voices being cut to from off-set, he at one stage when allegedly meaning ‘Ebola’

  40. I use MSN as my entry to the WWW, on the first page is a rolling news picture that changes at about every 20 seconds, this revolves eventually back to the original, there are right and left arrows to speed changes or back up.

    I have a problem I can only see the news pictures top half the bottom is missing.

    Has anyone any ideas on how I can correct this error?

  41. Anne Wotana Kaye 1 October 9th, 2014 – 12:42

    Anne a good post, I was always of the opinion that TB was re-introduced by the Pakistani immigrants.

    Is that not correct?

  42. David Ossitt@October 9th, 2014 – 15:33

    you can use ctrl+ and ctrl- to change the sized in firefox or IE.

    or you could change your screen resolution. right click on your desktop away from any icons and go into properties.

  43. David Ossitt
    October 9th, 2014 – 15:36
    David, one can blame the Pakis for many things, but if they brought more T.B. (which I believe they did) into this country, it has been widely transmitted by filthy habits. Unfortunately, too many of the native UK population sneezes and coughs without covering their noses and mouths. It is reaching plague level. The disease has also been brought in by Somalians, Romanians, and many more legal and illegal immigrants. We need an Ellis Island!

  44. I recommend that all Wallsters watch the Deputy Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police at a televised hearing at the Deputy Mayor’s Office today indulging in excuse-making for the ‘force’ failing, for such a long time, to find either the victim or the perpetrator of the Hanwell/Brent Towpath Murder, despite the fact that both were eventually found within pissing distance of where she and he were last seen. I have no link yet, as it was only just broadcast on Sky News, but it would assist if you took a look at this link, where you might find a clue about why the Metropolitan Police is ‘up the pictures’ , as they say in my native part of the world:

    http://content.met.police.uk/Article/Craig-Mackey/1400015754057/1400015754057

    I have never heard such a barrage of bollocks from a senior police officer since … well, since the Rotherham debacle a few weeks ago. It’s getting a bit too frequent methinks.

    You will note that his CV doesn’t mention “Common Purpose”. Would you bet your left testicles, chaps (or your case any other appropriate valuable organ, Anne) that he managed to attend one of those ‘courses’ and has conveniently forgotten to mention it?
    Someone should ask just how long he actually spent doing the sharp-end of police work rather than concentrating on ‘accelerating’ his own promotion. Another example of a Bramshill Butterfly who didn’t stay long enough anywhere to learn the constituency or the intrinsic nature and value of the ground that produced the nectar that he sucked from its vegetation before f***ing off to pastures new for his next suck.

    Incidentally, I had retired before he joined the job.

    I hope someone provides a transcript of his ”evidence’ to the “Deputy Mayor”. I’ll fisk the f****r to shame – always supposing he is capable of shame, which I doubt, after that performance. There are police pensioners around this country who will be spitting tacks, and past top coppers of yesteryear who will be turning in their graves.
    The problem in that case was too many Chiefs and not enough Indians (pardon the un-pc expression) with the nous and local knowledge that provided the sort of necessary immediacy, persistence and determination to get a result and bring closure for the relatives of the victim.

    The Dep Commish seems intent on blaming the other 18 forces, that were some unknown reason were brought in to ‘assist’. Why, FFS? There was a time when a Supt. and Sergeant from the Murder Squad would have cracked this in 48 hours with the help of a local search squad.

    And WTF was this perp. doing in this country, anyway? ‘Scuse me why I go get a shower to bring down my temperature. I’d better not go shopping or I’ll get whisked in and sussed for ebola because of the steam coming out of my ears and bleeding eyeballs at watching the latest travesty of policing.

  47. Btw – I promised a post on modern policing and its problems, some back, prompted by a question from Peter. Still working on it, but I’ve been UTW and it’s a multi-headed hydra. The Elephant has laboured long and I hope it doesn’t turn out to be a mouse; or that the Elephant doesn’t expire in the effort.

  48. AWK1 9th – 16:11

    “We need an Ellis Island!”

    Or a Devil’s Island!

  49. Riots on German streets. All the more shocking when you consider that such demonstrations are just the tip of the Muslim iceberg of intimidation in Europe.

    All in all thousands of British Muslims in Saudi and Syria is a bit of a holiday for the rest of us.

    There’s apretty good angle on the “religion of peace” lie that in a post: “Why The Obvious Lie” at:

    http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2014/10/why-lie.html

  50. Anne Wotana Kaye 1 October 9th, 2014 – 16:11

    “We need an Ellis Island!”

    Saint Helena would be an ideal choice.

  51. Alexsandr October 9th, 2014 – 15:54

    Thank you for that but my screen is fine, scrolling down to other news items does not have any problems, it is just the top changing photo that has a white bottom half.

  52. It seems that like AIDS, Ebola just suddenly appeared. What causes it and why now? So many questions and really no answers. I have a theory, just an idea, and its something I have been thinking about lately. Unfortunately scientists experiment on animals, even the highly developed primates, and the most horrible experiments take place as they infect these innocent creatures with known and unknown diseases. In Africa, chimps and apes are known as ‘bush meat’ and are considered by certain people as a delicacy. I have been thinking that it is possible that a worker in one of the laboratories, say a cleaner or a low paid employee stole some of these animals and sold them as meat? The meat would probably be infected and highly dangerous to eat. Could this be the origin of Ebola? Who knows?

  55. Negative comments being made at Spectator and Briebart about tonight’s QT from Clacton and the bias against UKIP.
    Debate continues on Radio 5.

  56. In the USA, a contributing factor to the spread of disease is the open southern border.

    The hundreds of thousands of people who have been crossing into the United States, a former nation which is now part of the North American Union as adopted by secret treaty some years ago and similar in intent and effect perhaps to our own dear European Union, have been and are continuing to be bused all over the USA to families and organizations which are being paid government funds to support them. The children have been forced on already crowded local schools.Many speak no English and are illiterate in their own language. Disease among them is rife, some of it untreatable.

    And what does the future hold?:
    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/10/09/BP-Agent-Nothing-Done-to-Secure-Border-From-Ebola-Apprehensions-at-30

    Where was the Wannsee Conference held at which the decision to launch this campaign was decided? Could it have been in Copengahen at the end of may this year?

  57. A more interesting bi-election is at Heywood and Middleton after the death of the Labour MP. This is part of Rochdale in Greater Manchester.Official population figures are White 86+%;`Asian`11+%. There is another Rotherham type sex-molestation scandal there.
    It does not seem to damage Labour too much.A recent poll gave Labour 50%/UKIP 31%/Con.13%…..but this may not be so…..there was 19% don’t know.There has been a 35%(?) turn-out.Maybe many Labour voters have stayed away.

  62. Malfleur.

    Manchester Evening Post at 11-05 reported :Labour said parties vote held-up with a postal vote turnout of around 66%……Not quite sure what that means;maybe 66% postal votes were returned.

    Voting percents: Lab 41%/UKIP 40%/Con 12%.

  64. Radford NG

    Thanks! I understand that more hanky-panky is possible with the postal vote.

    Now Clacton! That is a serious result!

  65. Be careful when walking out today, there’s a lot more fruitcakes and Looneys about that people thought.

  66. Credit where it’s due, after a stacked audience on QT and a bizarre This Week, Andrew Neil did a great job on the by-election special and eviscerated the Labour, Libtard and Tory ‘volunteers’ who had been stuck up to take the flack. He was brutal and though he teased the UKIP girl, she handled herself well. He completely destroyed the Labour ‘winner’ who seemed to be expecting congratulations from him; she started with eyes shining from a touch-and-go ‘victory’ and finished the interview utterly gobsmacked by his questions and had to pretend that the link was not working, when it obviously was. She walked away like a woman who had just had a hysterectomy performed on her without anaesthetic.

    Well done UKIP. Well done Carswell. It’s the thin end of the wedge. Now stand by as the MSM turns on their big guns on you and the conliblab start the dirty tricks. And watch out for Trojan Horses.

  68. Many thanks Peter; as I coughed in my email: post in haste, repent at leisure. Continue to enjoy your mission, with or without ‘credentials’ from You Know Who: and if, when arriving at Thiefrow some dodgy looking Muzzie with a mirror on a long stick, purporting to be from the UKBA, holds it under your cassock and mutters’ “I muzz luke at your credentizialsls!” – make sure your ‘ briefs’ are bomb-proof! 😉

  69. Noa!

    You awake yet? Well done! I’m on board for the GE. I’ve written to my MP and asked him to ‘defect’. He’s a good constituency MP and disgruntled with the spivs: he’d make a good cabinet minister for UKIP. LET THE DOMINOES FALL!

    Wish I was 20 years younger and fit! The smug bastards from conlibtardlab last night on the late politics shows did real damage to their parties, IMHO. As for dimblebore’s rigged QT, isn’t there cause for official complaint about an audience so blatantly rigged. At one stage he asked for hands up for a UKIP supporter and two hands showed. In a constituency where a UKIP candidate had a landslide? DMAFF!

    Somebody has to get a grip of our ‘National Boadcaster’, which now seems to be almost entirely staffed by gingers, dykes and quislings. But I repeat, Brillo did his job last night. Pity he upset Rupe; he could start a Fox type outfit here. I’ve warmed to him, even though he allowed Melanie to get shafted by the shysters. He’s still got a lot of penance to do for that piece of treachery.

  70. In case people think UKIP is a one or two policy party …

    The following statements represent highlights of UKIP’s policy announcements as made at the Doncaster Conference. More detailed announcements will be made in the run up to the 2015 General Election.

    http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people

  71. I have been reading in David Kynaston’s new book about Kenneth Robinson’s motion in 1960 to legalise homosexual acts in private. It was defeated by 220 to 91. Enoch Powell and Margaret Thatcher voted in favour.

    Grocer Heath did not vote. WBGTDWI?

  72. Andy Car Park (14:30)

    On your recommendation, I shall study his work and then proffer a reply to your question. 🙂

    Wellington College seems okay, not a bad start, I once lived just up the road from it and once nicked a conman/drug dealer from there, but with the College’s tip off, so no disrespect there. I’m a bit sussy of his London School of Commies credential, though, but nobody’s perfect I suppose.

    I’m still grateful for your Alex Boot heads up. A gift that keeps on giving indeed, even though he raises a few hackles hereupon for his lack of credulity over Vlad the Terrible.

    I read Alex’s biog on his early life. Explains a lot and adds to the enjoyment when reading his current output. Still can’t get aboard the source of his faith and theses, but then, I’m an irretrievable sinner, a determinist and a pragmatist, so I can hardly subscribe to the thought of inevitable Hades. I prefer Oblivion. Free at last!

  73. Robert C (14:35)

    Thanks for that. Good start for a manifesto. Still haven’t heard what they are going to do about ‘Police & Crime Commissioners’ the most corruption-prone entity to have been added to the CJS since the iniquitous CPS was inaugurated at the behest of Shysters Inc.

    P&CCs are invidious, insidious and an utter waste of resources. Scrap them – forthwith!. Then set about getting recruitment criterion back to a high standard, putting physical presence, common sense, a sense of public duty before academic paper credentials, ethnic, social and sexual profiling. Get some real coppers back on the streets and you won’t need political placemen to oversee them. Too many parasitical fleas are feeding of the body politic, which is why the country and the culture is dying. And ‘Common Purpose’ must cauterised from public life. If necessary with a fucking blow-lamp.

    Btw – has anybody asked Nigel if he ever took a Common Purpose course? I think we should know.

  74. Btw, before anybody points out that ‘parasitical fleas’ is tautology – I know, but I wish to qualify the parasites in question and grade then in order of magnitude. Just fleas, that can be swatted and dispensed of easily and with a bit of house cleaning, before they become sizeable bloodsuckers! Time is of the essence.

  75. Frank P

    On parasites: I understand that they themselves can have parasites, which may throw light on the relationship between the Conservative Party and the Liberal Party.

  76. The predictable response of Mr. Cameron to the Clactorn result that ‘Vote Ukip, and you’ll get Ed Miliband’ (DT) is not borne out by the trend showing in the Heywood and Middleton by-election.

    Is that latter result still being challenged by the way?

  77. Malfleur.

    Big fleas have little fleas
    On their backs to bite ’em.
    And little fleas have littler fleas,
    And so on ad infinitum.

  78. Mr Swift defined the phenomenon very well:

    Great fleas have little fleas upon their backs to bite ’em,
    And little fleas have lesser fleas, and so ad infinitum.
    And the great fleas themselves, in turn, have greater fleas to go on:
    While these again have greater still, and greater still … and so on.

  81. FranK P. (and Baron):

    I assume modesty forbids claiming to be the alleged subject of the apocryphal story above (Oct.8 at 10:38).

  83. Gwynth Paltrow, whilst gushing over Obama at a fund raiser:
    “Wouldn’t it be wonderful, if we could give this man the power to pass all the things he wants to pass?”

    My old Grannie would have suggested syrup of figs; but then – four of her synapses were joined together, unlike the airhead who is apparently infatuated with the Manchurian Candidate.

    Gawd give me strength!

  84. Andy Car Park, October 10th, 2014 – 14:39

    Apropos your timely revelation about the said 1960’s motion, and the perennial question that you posed.

    I wonder if you remember this 1970’s pop combo?
    https://twitter.com/HistoryInPics/status/423433648369827841

    Some people say this mystery group was actually from Winnipeg, Manitoba.
    This is surely something that the Spectator “Culture House” metros could sink their teeth into…

  85. Radford. (22:57)

    Were I spend my time confirming or rebutting all the apocryphal stories that have been attributed to yours truly, I would have no time to amuse you with the true versions, would I? Nor would I have time to surf the ether for the shit I dredge up that is important and which you need to know. But I did enjoy that one.

    Whether I enjoyed it from the witness box, or when I read it on the intertubes, is for you to decide. Life is too short for old battles – there are always present ones to address.☺

  86. EC

    Very concerned about Verity. Did she ever leave an email address for you, Peter? I once had one for her – the sojourner one, but that is defunct. Some of the events that have emerged recently would have been too tempting for her to to miss. I think harm or worse has befallen her. If so that’s very sad. I was reading some of her posts from Melanie’s old blog the other day. A sharp cookie. Her contributions are sorely missed.

  87. Ebola
    Alex Jones reported on 10th October that staff from Centers for Disease Control in HazMat suits are manning dozens and dozens of vans per sector along the southern border of the USA and scooping up sick people “with Ebola-like symptoms” and driving them off without telling the Border Patrol where they are being taken.

    Border Patrol officers leaked this news to Dr. Edward Group and other doctors at a medical trade conference just ended in Las Vegas.

    Dr. Group is interviewed starting at about 52′ in:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRplhbkWkRU

  88. Incidentally, Dr. Group presents a credible, if chilling, explanation for why the USA is sending 3,000 troops to West Africa rather than 3,000 doctors.

  89. Frank P
    October 11th, 2014 – 01:07
    Heartedly second Frank’s concern. Frank, now you know how many of us felt during your long silence! Missed you, you old devil!! 🙂

  91. Frank P/Wallsters

    Yup! It’s great news! Now for Rochester and Strood, where Cameron will receive another kick in his electoral ballot box.
    And how many Conned voters in must be kicking themselves in the same place, having split the UKIP vote to enable a marzipan clonedyke to slip past the greasy post in a Rafiq raped Rochdale?
    Now at nightime, There’ll be a lot more troughs of all ilks sobbing with fear in their expenses-paid Ann Summers lingerie than expected to be.

    Unfortunately, I’ve been a little out of touch with events; having got bored with retirement I took an (admittedly very lucrative) contract in the defence aviation industry over in RAF Waddington, near Lincoln, to eke out the pension and help pay for my future care home needs. (Probably the major requirement will be an English Latvian dictionary containing essential phrases like “A glass of water please and “How much!”)
    What a revelation that has been! What passes for an aircraft fleet is mainly held together with chewing gum and sticking plaster. And worst of all, the ‘elf’n safety’ Kulture has well and truly seized hold of HM armed forces. I don’t know about wor Nigel having been on a ‘common purpose’ course but I suspect that anyone of any rank from CGS down to the lowliest NCO has. Or perhaps that service disciplinarinism was always ripe for marxist subversion. Still, I’ve always liked the sight of a pretty girl in uniform and the RAF seems to have lots of them, so there are compensations… 🙂

  92. And apparently I’m not the only one who has a mordant view of the capabilities, or lack thereof, of our armed forces.

    http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4762/cream-puff-corps

    Still, its not surprising when George Osborne, borrowing over a £110 billion a year in order to prop up the welfare state and the Lib/Lab/Con voter base now has to pay over £70 billion a year in interest on the National Debt, twice what we spend on defence.

  93. Raheem Kassim reiterates the Tories’ stupidity in contesting Rochdale and splitting the right wing vote.

    “..The 3000 votes the Tories took in the “Labour stronghold” last night was five times the number of votes that UKIP lost by. It should be clear, even to the more stalwart of Tories, that had they done what they’ve been asking UKIP to do for so many years — stand down where they can’t win — Ed Miliband would have lost a seat last night, and perhaps even been deposed as Labour leader as a result of that. Both of these things would have been a fantastic result for the Tory Party and the country, but as ever with the modern Conservative Party, obstinacy triumphed over what is best for Britain.”

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/10/If-the-Conservative-Party-Was-Serious-About-Keeping-Ed-Miliband-Out

  95. This seems like a good idea (from Jonah Goldberg). Applied across the board it might even serve as a general disincentive to immigration. Note to Nigel …

    “As for the charge that I was being gross, I think you people should be more grateful for my restraint. For instance, I left out my argument for how to improve screening of passengers from West Africa. I can sum it up in two words: rectal thermometers.”

  96. If you get the chance, you must read Matthew Parris’ column in today’s Times. It will drive even more to UKIP!

    The theme is that it is the voters who are out of touch with reality, not Westminster. It is even worse than his renowned column about Clacton!

    How about:
    “Today’s parliaments are the most inclusive, diverse, unpretentious, least corrupt, most streetwise, hardest-working assemblies that Britain has ever elected, and by a long chalk the most in touch with the concerns of ordinary citizens.”

    It is results, not effort in that counts, and do their actions reflect our concerns?

    Keep it up Matthew, ’til at least the General Election.

  98. It’s ironic, indeed it is poetic justice, that the bien pensant, ant-capital punishment chattering classes have been instrumental in re-introducing religious public beheadings onto the streets of London for the first time in over 400 years.
    I wonder whether McMillan, Wilson, Heath, Thatcher, Blair, Brown and Cameron would have thought of themselves as being the heirs and successors to Henry VIII, Elizabeth and Mary, Queen of Scots in re-introducing this quaint spectacle back to Tyburn, via New Mosul, or Marble Arch as it used to be known?
    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/10/11/London-monitoring-thousands-of-terrorists

  99. Peter Hitchens on good form:-

    “…If more Tory MPs decide *now*, or in the next few months to switch to UKIP, they can pretty much guarantee a large contingent of UKIP MPs in May 2015, in many cases winning seats which would fall to Labour if they fought as Tories. This would tear to ribbons the (already dubious) view that a UKIP vote favours Labour. It raises the possibility, remote but real, that the Tories – if they really want what they say they want – could get it by allying with a sizeable UKIP contingent in Parliament after 2015…”
    http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2014/10/what-does-it-all-mean-some-first-thoughts.html

  100. What a wonderful week for Clacton and the rest of the UK.

    I sense from the Tories that Carswell was too intellectually ‘fireproof’ to go after with smears.

    And they are right.

    Carswell is in the Ann Wiidecombe mode: he doesn’t take money in brown paper envelopes (cough, Libor, cough, Michael Fallon, cough), he is honest. Like him or not.

    But they have to stop the damage quickly and so that was why they threatened Mark Reckless with: ‘We’re coming to get you.’

    What are they going to do? Send his kids on holiday with Leon Brittain?

    The Tories and their media lackeys are too late to smear Reckless.

    The Tories are in a Catch 22 situation: bury Rochester, like they did Clacton and they will lose.

    Smear the candidate and they will further enrage the electorate.

    Even their new silly strategy of: ‘Let’s smear the UKIP candidates and party but not the voters’ is seen for the trash that it is.

    Voters empathise with UKIP and their candidates because they themselves run the gauntlet of censorship and disproportionate law enforcement all through their daily lives: on the internet commenting on things, at work from HR, many people will have had friends and family smeared to hell and back in the pages of the Daily Mail and Shariagraph in those council elections in May, held alongside the European elections.

    On and on it goes.

    People are, in effect, tailed by the MSM LibLabCon thought police everywhere they go.

    And when this nasty propagandist censure breaks out into the open, as it does with attacks on UKIP, the voters know who they empathise with.

    Getting the media to ignore Rochester means a Tory loss.

    Getting them to up the smears agains Reckless because he is (I concede) a weaker candidate means Tory loss.

    The public will not take this spiteful MSM XXXX any more.

    I have relatives in Essex (not Clacton) who put money on Carswell and one of them made enough off the back of Carswell’s victory to pay off the mortgage this month.

    I am told the living room atmosphere on Thursday night was like that of fans watching a team winning a Champions League final.

    Shrieking, whooping, hugs – and oh, when the TV wheeled out the bien pensant commentariat!!! The pantomime boos.

    Take that, LibLabCon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Reckless will win too.

  101. On the quiet, of course, the Tories have slowly been copying Labour and LibDems’ reliance on importing voters for themselves while wiping out rebel indigenes.

    Witness the drip, drip, drip of fawning Daily Mail stories on Savid Javid.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2771477/Could-Sajid-Javid-Britain-s-Asian-Prime-Minister-His-parents-arrived-just-1-s-minister-That-s-man-believes-immigrants-natural-Tories.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2601111/The-Muslim-bus-drivers-son-set-Commons-superstar-ANDREW-PIERCE-new-Culture-Secretary-Sajid-Javid.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2592532/Is-Maggies-Muslim-heir-set-follow-No-10-Raised-shopkeeper-instilled-value-hard-work-treasury-star-Sajid-Javid-claim-biggest-prize.html

    Those pieces are clearly part of a propaganda pattern.

    Look at the distance of time between them.

    The party hierarchy has clearly given the signal that Mr Javid should be given ‘profile’.

    And Maajid Nawaz – a former member of Hizb ut-Tahrir – is a Lib Dem general election candidate. Can you imagine any party letting a non-Muslim try to redeem themsleves with a past like his?

    Nawaz gets away with the redeemed act purely because he is a Muslim.

    It isn’t the policies that bother the Muslims when you ask for their votes.

    All the Muslim voters care about is: Are You One Of Us?

    They’ve not arrived on foreign shores without purpose, you know.

    And it’s the same purpose since their ‘prophet’ spoke: make them submit and do it with taqqya so they don’t notice until it’s too late.

  103. Noa, thanks for the link, the other paragraph that is worth repeating over and over again is the one that nails the lie: ‘Vote UKIP, get Labour’:

    “If more Tories had voted for UKIP in Heywood and Middleton, they would have taken the seat from Labour.

    “If they are really worried about ‘Red Ed’, northern Tory voters should vote UKIP.

    “The Tories could never have won the seat.

    “UKIP could have done.”

    It has been one of the greatest frauds on the British electorate that people simply vote for one ‘lot’ to avoid the other.

    Perhaps people have finally woken up?

    Dump the lot of the LibLabCon cartel.

    Historians often point out that the system of government that awful man Adolf Hitler most admired was the British.

    He was enthralled with its faux ‘democracy’:

    ”Through the press propaganda, through the use of the organs of information, it was possible in England to found the great model parties.

    ”Already in those early days they saw to it shrewdly that there were always two or three groups apparently hostile to each other, but in fact all hanging on a gold thread, the whole designed to take account of a human characteristic – that the longer a man possesses an object, the more readily he grows tired of it.

    ”He craves something new: therefore one needs two parties.

    ”The one is in office, the other in opposition.

    ”When the one has played itself out, then the opposition party comes into power, and the party which has had its day is now in its turn the opposition.

    ”After twenty years the new party itself has once more played itself out and the game begins afresh.

    ”In truth this is a highly ingenious mill in which the interests of a nation are ground very small.

    ”As everyone knows, this system is given some such name as ‘Self-Government of a People.”‘

    The LibLabCon model of ‘democracy’, as endorsed by a young Adolf Hitler on 28 July 1922.

  104. I read this headline:

    ‘Where are they getting all these folks from?’ Author Naomi Wolf is condemned for suggesting ISIS hostages are ACTORS and be-headings aren’t real

    Writer, 51, posted a number of Facebook messages questioning footage

    Asked if there was any record of the hostages being abducted initially

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781864/Author-Naomi-Wolf-condemned-suggesting-videos-hostages-beheaded-ISIS-aren-t-real.html

    I do not believe 9/11, 7/7 or Lee Rigby were false flag ops.

    They were all real events.

    But this lady has a point about these specific videos.

    Normally when a hostage is taken in the Middle East – think John McCarthy, Terry Waite and so on – people know about it from the off. And it takes years to play out and there are fund raising campaigns and people put pressure on the government, who don’t usually give a xxxx.

    But these ‘beheading’ videos are strange.

    Who are these hostages?

    Why was there no big back story like John McCarthy?

    Why are the videos so slick?

    Why is the sawing of the neck – the actual death – not in them?

    They just appeared in the MSM out of nowhere.

    Obama and Cameron needed a reason to get the military out there but could not do so without creating an emotional connection in the public that they and their kin were at threat: and here it is in the shape of Westerners being beheaded and Muslims from the West travelling out there to do it.

    Would a Muslim really style himself ‘Jihadi John’ after the Beatles? It sounds like the spin operation wanted to further the ‘Western connection’ and ‘we should all feel upset about this’.

    Something is not right.

    The media narrative does not run parallel with John McCarthy et al.

    It just leaps out of nowhere.

    Perhaps these beheading videos are real but why is it all so against the grain of previous hostage situations?

    The Slog proffers some answers about the usefulness of ISIL to letting the globalists bash Putin back into his box (the plunging oil price is obviously designed to hurt Russia):

    http://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/10/10/analysis-the-real-isil-to-ukraine-connection/

  108. I have to say I would class Owen Patterson’s Climate Change suggestion as a Judas Goat suggestion.

    Patterson himself is a classic Judas Goat.

    Daniel Hannan – the apotheosis of the political Judas Goat.

    All noise signifying nothing.

    Out the door.

    We’ve had a century of it.

    Now XXXX off and never come back, Tory Party.

    I do worry that Labour will replace Miliband with Alan Johnson. Simon Heffer has suggested this, which shows how much the establishment are sxxxing themselves.

    Even the Tories do not want Labour to collapse.

    Once the voters cross the Rubicon and opt for real choice, things become like France, Greece and Italy, where there is now a process of ‘trial and error’ voting by the electorate as they cycle through the new breeds of political party to see what they are like.

    The great hope is that Le Pen wins France.

    So, as I say, even the Tories want to rescue Labour and Labour want to rescue the Tories – their little club has been invaded!

    Isn’t it joyful to watch!

    I don’t want tokenistic destructions of silly acts of parliament, Mr Patterson.

    I want LibLabCon destroyed forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  109. I’ve just been catching up on some British media websites and nearly cried myself blind with laughter.

    The classic school bully, David Cameron, a bona fide Bullingdon thug, has spent years hurling insults at people, calling them fruitcakes, looneys, closet racists.

    The senior members of the gang who pull Cameron’s puppet strings also do so: Ken Clarke and Michael Heseltine have both called UKIP racist.

    As for the junior members of the gang of bullies, the writers of the Daily Mail and Shariagraph, they have torn to shreds UKIP candidates who may have said on Twitter what people say down the pub, but they don’t say a hoot about Libor and Michael Fallon, they don’t talk about famous Tory names who frequented the Elm Guest House.

    No.

    But any old trivia about UKIP is presented as the original sin.

    And after all that bullying.

    Years of it.

    Incessant.

    Spiteful.

    Nasty.

    What does Camewon do?

    Why, the classic school bully that he is, he drops his shouting volume and that of his evil MSM gang and writes to the all the constituents of Rochester and Strood and in an oh-so caring whisper, says: ‘I’m going to let you all choose a local candidate. Because I really care what you think, you know.’

    This man is beyond farce.

    His party are beyond the pale.

    And their media lackey axxe-lickers beyond shame.

    They make Pravda look unbiased.

    And today I’m laughing because this time it seems it really is all over for this party of spitebags.

    I hope they rot in hell (especially the Elm Guest House Dirty Dozen).

    They’re pathetic.

  110. Peter Hitchens has put this video up on his blog.

    It is a gob-smacking 10 minutes.

    The reason why he bangs on about where politicians educate their kids is because it exposes them all – LibLabCon – as the most vicious, wicked liars.

    It makes LibLabCon look like what they are: the inhabitants of the farm house in Animal Farm.

    A bunch of pigs who want the best only for their kids – and cesspit schools for everyone else’s.

    All the while, these hypocritical politicians have the cheek to praise these cesspit schools with their tractor production inflated grades.

    Check out the response of the sixth formers who all applaud ghastly Tory MP Tim Loughton, who haughtily tries to dismiss Hitchens and styles himself as an MP interested in the welfare of children.

    Watch Loughton’s insults.

    Watch the naive and cosseted private school sixth formers applaud Tim Loughton.

    In the room, Hitchens is crucified.

    But watch it on tape from your view of the real world and see what you think. The Tories are truly vile:

    http://www.radleyvideo.co.uk/clips36_qt_2014.html

  111. Amazing!

    The Tories are now so worried about Mark Reckless, they want to parachute in Olympic rower James Cracknell.

    The problem the Tories have is this.

    Carswell has more than two brain cells, so he was unstoppable.

    Mark Reckless is a mediocrity.

    If he can switch to UKIP and win, so can any Tory.

    It is Reckless, not Carswell, who will open the floodgates.

    And if you’re a Tory MP and want to keep your seat, you have to switch before the General Election and call a by election.

    You cannot wait until the General Election because that gives the game away to the voters: you’re only switching because you think UKIP will win the seat.

    So you have to go now.

    If Reckless wins, many more will follow.

    The floodgates must not be opened.

    So all the Tory weapons are out to destroy Mark Reckless.

    Media tip toeing on the story? Won’t work. You’re not even interested in winning.

    Smear Mark Reckless? Won’t work. The Mail and Shariagraph have smeared so many people nobody believes their lies any more.

    Parachute in James Cracknell?

    No.

    That won’t work either. People are sick of celebrities soft soaping their politics.

    It really is check mate for the Tories. They have worn out all their media weapons.

    It’s just an MSM lie.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2789542/tories-want-rowing-hero-power-crucial-win-olympic-gold-medalist-parachuted-fight-ukip-defector.html

    I cannot think of a single thing the Tories can do to save Rochester and Strood.

    Lies.

    All they do is lie.

    And all their media spin over Rochester will be seen as just that.

    Check mate.

    What can you do now, Tory Party?

    Nothing.

    I wonder how many more will defect before the General Election?

    They have to show they mean it.

    Tory MPs either wait until the General Election and get booted out, or the defect now while there is a chance of gaining some credibility for switching and being ‘independent minded’.

    What a meltdown we are witnessing!

  112. I do not pay for any Murdoch tripe either on TV or in print.

    I’ve have just seen this on another website and copied and pasted it.

    It is Saturday’s column from Matthew Parris in The Times.

    It is a follow-up to his infamous smearing of Clacton a few weeks ago.

    It beggars belief.

    Read this filth:

    “Ignore the piffle about Westminster needing to reconnect with a disaffected public. It should be the other way around

    Two by-elections. Two voices. Two ultimata will be said to have been directed at Westminster.

    From Rochdale (including the constituency of Heywood and Middleton) the Labour party quavers before the exasperated voice of Rochdale Man. From the Essex coast the Conservative party hears with dismay the fury in the voice of Clacton Man.

    These, we’ll be assured, are the voices of voters variously described as alienated from or neglected by one of the two mainstream political parties that could once rely on their vote. “Labour have taken us white working classes for granted for too long!” cries Rochdale Man. “We’re off to Ukip.”

    “You Tories,” cries Clacton Man, “thought you could count on us Eurosceptic, low-tax, high-carbon, traditionalist Tories, while you cavorted with your lah-di-dah new friends in the liberal metropolitan elite. Well we’ve found new friends too: Ukip.”

    Pin back your ears, then, brace your retina for an autumnal babble, in broadcast and in print, about how each of the two mainstream parties must now “reconnect” with its “core”.

    Rochdale Man (mutters the Labour left) has told Ed Miliband that the bedrock of his party’s vote is white, “blue-collar”, economically pinched, angry about immigration and anxious about cuts to welfare. Rochdale Man has felt left behind since Tony Blair and “new” Labour stole his party. Forget Primrose Hill, say Rochdale Man’s intellectual friends in high places: back to the slag heaps and trade-union solidarity where Labour was born.

    “Back to our roots, or Ukip will get us!” This is the fundamentalism of the left. It’s populist, resentment-fuelled and intellectually all over the place.

    Clacton Man, says the right, has told David Cameron that a cornerstone of his party’s support is white, depressed, elderly, economically pinched, angry about immigration and anxious about welfare cuts; and thinks Britain’s gone to the dogs because of foreigners, wind farms, the anti-smoking brigade and the European Union. David Cameron, says Clacton Man, has stolen the Conservative party from him and taken it sledging with huskies.

    “Back to the saloon bar, or Ukip will get us!” This is the fundamentalism of the right. It’s populist, resentment-fuelled and intellectually all over the place.

    But sneer though we may at the contradictions in the various messages sprayed out by Ukip, there is a deep internal consistency between the voices of Clacton and Rochdale Man. It’s called populism, and if you ask it for its manifesto you miss the point. Dislike of the present and fear of the future is what drives it. Fear, in the end, has no manifesto.

    But the trouble with populism is that it isn’t popular: not in our country. Or, rather, it attracts a grumbling chorus of support from its client groupings but tends to repel the rest of us.

    But we had better pull our duvets over our heads for the next couple of months, as a gale of clichéd commentary rages. Be ready to duck the flying piffle. Labour must “reach out” to Rochdale. The Tories must “focus on the concerns” of Clacton. The by-elections have sent a “wake-up call” to Westminster. MPs must “listen more”. Ukip has pricked the “Westminster bubble”. An “anti-politics” wave is sweeping the nation. MPs must “engage with” the “disaffected” voters “out there”, “turned off” by a generation of politicians who are “arrogant and out of touch,” who “don’t get it”, and who don’t “understand voters’ worries”.

    What fashionable nonsense. I remember the Commons as it was more than three decades ago. Talk about being “out of touch” — some still wore morning dress.

    Today’s parliaments are the most inclusive, diverse, unpretentious, least corrupt, most streetwise, hardest-working assemblies that Britain has ever elected, and by a long chalk the most in touch with the concerns of ordinary citizens. They do know how the other half lives. They try ceaselessly — they try too hard — to understand and empathise. They inquire, they engage, they research, they listen. They’re painfully aware of the impact of policy on people.

    Politicians do know what to do: in Jean-Claude Juncker’s phrase they just don’t know how to get re-elected after doing it. So cut the crap about reaching out to Rochdale or connecting with Clacton. There are parts of Britain that need to reach out to reality. Sometimes it’s the voters who should try harder to “engage”: engage with those who have to govern.

    Perhaps the aggrieved citizen who wants lower taxes, higher government spending, cheaper whisky and buckets more money thrown at the NHS, should reach out to the chancellor as he burns the midnight oil with his sums. Perhaps the disaffected pensioner who wants free transport, higher pensions and no tax to pay is the one who doesn’t get it? Perhaps it’s the tweed-jacketed squire who should understand the agriculture minister’s concerns, the chain-smoking couch potato who’s out of touch and needs to focus more on the health secretary’s worries?

    Perhaps, though, Clacton and Rochdale Man are the wrong targets for my ire. Life has been good to me but God knows it has not been easy for them; and if they’re nostalgic for the past and depressed about the future, they may have reason to be.

    Those, however, whom I cannot forgive — and if you’re really looking for arrogant metropolitan snobs then look no further — are those on the right who want to use the poor as a vehicle to lend a fake salience to their own nutty opinions about Europe, immigration, diversity, climate change or whatever.

    Like the strangler fig with its seed in Central Africa, whence I’ve just returned, they lodge their arguments in a host — the poorer citizen — whose welfare is not their first concern; put down their roots; and thrive on the sap of his own despair.

    Ukip is not the fault of Clacton: Clacton is just the parasite’s unlucky host. We do not do best for Clacton by simulating “engagement” with the town’s opinions. We do best not by patronising its voters when we know they’re wrong, but by levelling with them and telling them so. In the end their MP, Douglas Carswell, who is not dishonest, will find that this is what he has to do.”

  113. Jackie 11 Oct -17.15 et seq

    I have studied your posts.

    Yes.

    Studied.

    Very carefully.

    Pausing between the short paragraphs to:

    have a cup of tea;

    attend to the implacable demands of an aging bladder;

    and consider eschatological matters.

    Why do you write like this?

    Even the laconic Hemingway managed to construct paragraphs;

    yes, even when he was a hack for the

    Toronto Star.

  114. Austin Barry (12 Oct @ 01:19)

    I’ve paused to wonder too – just a bit – about Jackie’s posts. Is there about them a faint whiff of something familiar? Even perhaps of Telemachus?

  115. Jackie – Have Mr Barry and Mr Thornton indeed rumbled you as the Stalinist troll who loves to provide his soviet witlessness as the red meat upon which Colonel Mustard loves to gnaw, rend and nash?

  117. A retired American officer,Lt.Col. Allen West,makes a strong critique of Obama and Secretary of State Kerry re. Syria.Also of the Turks who are not only failing to help as the IS forces approach the border of NATO territory,but are cracking down on their own Kurds and are seeking the overthrow Assad.

    He provides an excellent map showing Kobani where the IS is moving in on three sides whilst the Turks sit watching across the border on the forth.

    It is 70 years ago the Polish Home Army surrendered in Warsaw after 69 days;followed by rape and massacre,as the Russian Army sat and watched;wanting to see the Poles defeated.

    Today the Kurds fight on to save Kobane from the same fate whilst the Turks sit and watch;wanting to see the Kurds defeated.

    http://t.co/bryGs9xGCF

  120. I was suspicious from the start that Jackie was probably Telemachus particularly by the sort of baiting style of writing and the layout; also there was a Janey and or Jamie some time ago all with the same M.O.

  122. David and Frederick Barclay Prohibit Comment at:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11156460/Lord-Tebbit-I-can-never-forgive-creature-who-planted-Brighton-bomb.html

    ” “The chandelier swung wildly, the floor collapsed, and we were tipped out of bed into a pitch-black void. The pain was indescribable. Something tore a great hole in my left side and we were left buried. I was able to call out for Margaret. As she replied I found that I could reach out to her hand. We talked about our family as we drifted in and out of consciousness. For my wife and I, that murder attempt brought an abrupt change in our lives.”
    Lord Tebbit wrote of the aftermath, including the two years his wife spent in hospital “before coming home to try to rebuild our life together”. He said: “That has not been easy. Although I suffered multiple injuries which have left me seldom without pain, I have few disabilities. Sadly, my wife’s life has closed in and her suffering is unrelieved.” “

  123. Comrade

    “.. your own posts would make the attitude of the Metropolitan Police look tame..”

    If only it was true of the politically correct, common purpose riven forces in serge.

  124. The good Colonel Mustard to telemachus. One of a number of exceptional posts, all of them worth reading, in which the good Colonel systematically dismembers your intellectual vacuity. I believe you no onger know what to think, but gimp-like, enjoy the daily poundings which he heaps upon you, regardless of understanding.

    “You don’t have any understanding of what Liberty means. You think that just because you are a strident champion of the left that you are entitled to presume the championship of liberty too.

    In fact your accumulated comments here evidence the exact opposite. Your own extreme Stalinist politics threaten liberty and you seek to control, expunge or “proscribe” the views of others you disagree with.
    Beyond your own pompous, inflated and hubris-crammed opinion of what you are and what you represent your comments speak for themselves and all are aware of what they convey. You are a methodist I believe? Well you certainly need to take lectures on humility from some of your ministers.”

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2014/10/moazzam-begg-islamic-bookseller-or-terrorist-trainer/

  125. Noa
    You forgot the challenging reply which he could not refute

    “I refer your nihilism and defeatism to one of the greats, Dr Sangster

    Defeatism” is not a pleasing word, but it is a popular one. Its wide use indicates its serviceableness to those who want to describe the strange temper of the times, a compound of doubt, depression, and hopelessness. All spheres of life are infected. Statesmen feel it. They want peace, but they are so sure that they cannot get it that they bend their whole strength to the preparations for war.”

  126. PS to the moderator

    telemachus
    October 7th, 2014 – 11:19

    Nice to be first
    Just that
    Regards to all

    Your comment is awaiting moderation

  127. “Nice to be first”

    Egotism rather than value drives our comrade.

    Now.

    Which came first,

    the egg

    or

    the goat?

  128. I do wish that the verbose posts of Jackie would cease, they are to me unreadable and having to scroll past so many of them is a chore.

    Is she really Telemachus?

  129. Noa (10:04)

    Thanks for that link, I rarely dip into Trolltopia these days but that series of exchanges was well worth the diversion. I see that Nicholas in his new persona (CM) is still playing a blinder. Shame he decided that the Wall wasn’t his cup of tea. Paradoxically, if I remember correctly, it was the presence of Tele here that was the main spur for his departure. I always thought that Tele was good grist for his mill – and so it has transpired over there, it seems. :-).

  131. Frank P
    October 12th, 2014 – 12:02

    telemachus

    And Nicholas as you say has progressively gone downhill since his flounce in 2012

  133. … and, as usual, the ‘as you say’ is further proof of your mendacity, let alone your Gramscian disease, because I said nothing of the sort.

  134. Here’s one for the girls and any hirsute Wallsters who occasionally snag their fluff in the brambles around the Wall:

    http://nickidaniels.com/2014/01/06/beardedhipsters/

    That’s my girl! The sudden trend of stubble and full blown hairy chins is quite disconcerting of late, especially among otherwise precious footballers and football’s punditry. There are some men who can, but others who definitely can’t, carry it off with dignity. As for the Roy Keane monstrosity, thank heavens he has now removed it and I assume he was taking the piss out of his cohorts by growing it, anyway.

    Thanks for the link Gerard.

  135. Austin Barry, October 12th, 2014 – 01:19

    Brahms and Liszt Nocturnes
    Chopin sentences decried
    Briefs high Haiku brief.

  136. Frank P, @12:55

    “The beard has turned into the padded bra of masculinity.”

    Marvellous! Was never too sure which way up old Fungus was standing.

  137. So sick of gloom and doom, so I have just watched “Carry on Matron” on ITV. Smashing, they don’t make comedies like that anymore. Barbara Windsor looked and acted delightfully, and the sexual innuendo whilst saucy, was compared to the perversion of today innocent and really a good laugh. Dear Sidney James, crinkled faced and so brilliant, and all the others, now alas departed really cheered me up,

  138. Austin Barry/EC/Noa

    “Jackie” (aka numerous other sobriquets), in sporadic salvoes over recent months, seems to morphed into “AlexanderGalt” on the Trolltopia ‘Begg’ link. Not only in the para spacing, but it also seems to have a fondness for links that, when probed beneath the surface, have strong anti-Semitic bias among the commenters. I suspect a transmogrification of the BNP propaganda arm. Caveat emptor.

  139. Frank P
    October 12th, 2014 – 13:23
    Interesting post Frank. I actually thought I was becoming paranoid, finding nasty anti-Semitic connotations amongst the long winded drivel. More like Bolshie than BNP?

  141. Dare I say it? I don’t want to stop the UKIP progress, but if the Labour Party got rid of the vile Miliband, and replaced him with a decent human being, Allen Johnson, then the ex-postman could deliver many votes for the party.

  142. Frank P

    “…I always thought that Tele was good grist for his mill – and so it has transpired over there…”

    Agreed, Frank, the troll comrade never seems to realise that, however much he tries to wriggle out of it, it’s always his turn in the barrel.

  143. “Jackie” seems to be yet another of the poster with the ubiquitous nicknames, e.g Selena, Elena, Helena, Night Nurse, etc, all having identical writing styles consisting of short paragraphs and vituperative, spiteful phrases. Like David Ossitt above, I now usually read the first one or two lines and then scroll past, as I find these nasty ramblings monotonous.

  144. AWK1 – 14:40 ‘the ex-postman could deliver many votes for the party’

    But they would be delivered next door!

  146. Anne Wotana Kaye 1
    October 12th, 2014 – 14:40
    Apologies. I spelt Alan Johnson’s name incorrectly.
    RobertC
    October 12th, 2014 – 15:39
    I couldn’t resist a corny joke!

  147. Anne (13:54)

    As Vlad Lenin said, ” What is to be done?” eh? 🙂

    I dunno Anne, I’m not a student of the inter-factional squabbles of Marxism and its offshoots, other than the Gramsci-Frankfort School phenomenon and their later proponent Alinski. I was too busy grappling with the fuckers on the streets to spend much time with abstruse reading then, other than the pamphlets they littered the streets of Notting Hill with circa ’68 to ’70 odd and the stuff I seized from the squats under the Westway extension building blight around that time, when every potential revolutionary from the far left to the far right from around the world head-quartered themselves on the ground and tried to implement the Rules for Revolutionaries espoused by Alinski and Hitler (I don’t make much distinction between them – they’re all Internationalist Socialists aiming for totalitarianism). Those counter-culture warriors from the 60/70s era were very much under the counter and used the West Indian ponces (they call them pimps these days)and drug pedlars as cat’s paws and financed much of their subversive activity from those sources; they also provided leftist lawyers to the criminal fraternity (in general) in return – to fight their court cases and smear the police. The Sino-Soviet propaganda machinery topped up their already fat wallets as necessary (not excluding a few Labour Party cabinet ministers and at least one Prime Minister). Our own governments (of all stripes) covered it up and tried to shut me up when I started to expose it.

    It’s a story that has never been properly told and from which much of today’s chaotic culture emanates. Since then the politicisation of the police – and its neutering as a result, has been a great source of misery to me,

    The inkling of mine to which you responded, was prompted by the fact that the BNP (a successor of the Mosely and the British Blackshirts; Colin Jordan, John Tindall, et al. in later morphs) has a thin veneer of the equivalent Muslim Taqqiya in its m.o. which is why I get a whiff of it when I click on ‘Jackie’s’ links.

    Nazi, Socialist and Islamic propaganda has so much in common, with its deception, double deception and double double deception, that it can be difficult to sort out, at times, even with some of our bedfellows beneath the Wall. But I’m also aware that when you’re paid for a lifetime to snoop and be suspicious as a profession, it’s just poissible become a tad cynical, even in ‘retirement’.

    So to me, even the EDL has a whiff of Taqiyya, with its demagoguery. Hyenas in wolves clothing perhaps (although many may just be useful eejits)? As I No longer have access to the inside loop I’m guessing these days. And most of my old contemporaries from SB, the Funnies and the CIA have popped their clogs.

    I’m sure you understand why I’m persona non grata with the current bunch of bungling bastards. I’ve never hidden my contempt for today’s hierarchy of ex-top cops and current Bramshill Butterflies that have joined the political elite and been brainwashed by the Common Purpose ethos. And we all know the their ‘common purpose’ is – don’t we?

    I’m even keeping on eye on the development of UKIP. Which is why I exhorted them the other day to “watch out for Trojan Horses”. I’m not worried about their slightly wacky supporters, it’s the ones who will undoubtedly infiltrate their ranks from the far left and the far right that will destroy them from within, if they become a viable political force.

    My own general rule now is: ‘a plague on all their houses’. I think once you’ve emigrated to Costa Octogenaria Geriatrica, you’re entitled to say ,”Fuck ’em all.” But I don’t recommend that sort of nihilism for you youngsters on the Wall. Go get ’em! I’ll hold your coats (and I won’t pick your pockets as you do it). But I won’t hold my breath, if you don’t mind – it’s getting too precious. And I certainly won’t hold my tongue until they screw down the lid. Even for the post mortem stint, I’ve left a few remnants of evidence around for those who might wish to unearth it. 🙂

  149. Robert C (15:39)

    That is a very very funny rejoinder if you don’t mind me saying so.

    I might add that any man who entrusts his wife to be alone with a copper (albeit his bodyguard) is too credulous to be a useful Prime Minister. And I also find his credulity even more puzzling when he emanates from the part of North Kensington where much of the worst of the criminal gentry were spawned and nurtured in the days of his youth. But to be fair – his parent oiked him out of it at an early age. He’s probably the straightest shooter of the Labour Party – which is why he’s unlikely to become their leader, perhaps?

  150. Frank P
    October 12th, 2014 – 16:23
    Frank, if only we really knew then what we know today. Youthful enthusiasm and innocent trust sadly gives way to a cynical stance and leaves a sour taste we never knew in the springtime of our lives. I agree one hundred percent with your fear of ‘Trojan Horses” and as I too speedily approach another birthday, like you I am easily inclined to say, “F*ck you all”! Notting Hill was one of my pre-teen and teenager haunts. The youth club where we not only danced and played records, but also planned to create a Utopia, some veering to the left whilst others to the right. Also. like you, I have no trust in the powers that be, and believe that plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose … the more things change, the more they stay the same. 🙂

  151. Frank P

    Thank you for that post, both thoughtful and enjoyable. Regarding Labour ministers being communists and in the pay of Russia Peter Hitchens has tried to analyse the issue in “The Cameron Delusion”, though not to his own, usually meticulous levels of analysis. By its nature its a subject in the shadows and if you have anything you can share I, for one would welcome it. When I was studying, and working at the same time, in the ‘seventies I well remember the dalliance with communism and its offshoots that attracted many of my contemporaries. I could not understand the illogicality of supporting a murderous totalitarian regime that differed little from its acceptably condemned national socialist counter-part.

  152. Anne (16:53)

    I’ll add a musical accompaniment to that thought:

    http://y108.cbslocal.com/2014/06/06/listen-to-a-new-willie-nelson-song-the-git-go-from-his-upcoming-band-of-brothers-album/

    Recommend the CD, it’s great. I like the old reprobate, despite his hash habit. I suppose it’s the latent outlaw in me. And the tenor of his singing voice jigs with my vibes in the universal rhythm – the underlying echoes of the Big Bang that determine the fate of all of us.

  153. Noa.

    If ever you’re at a loose end in these ‘ere parts let me know and we’ll have a jar or two to reminisce; if clinical considerations allow. And keep up the good work. 🙂

  154. Noa
    What you need to realise is that in your closed claustrophobic world of the Wall your views and abuse may hold sway
    But you cannot gainsay the reasonable views of myself or my very good friends Jackie or Mynydd

  155. Jackie is not one of telemachus’ various attempts to create additional personas here. I very much doubt she knows him or would want to. Who wants to know someone who thinks FGM is amusing?

  157. Telemachus has some vile undemocratic views. He thinks that having a socialist government is more important than democracy, and wished for a DDR type police state here.
    He espoused those views when I had just come back for Berlin, and had seen where the Berlin Wall was, and when we had been at the Brandenburg gate, where the DDR put a tank to stop people when the city was partitioned.
    He forgets people died trying to cross the Berlin wall.

    People who think like that are complete NEWARKS (anag)

  158. Baron,
    I assume you are back from all points east. I have a copy of PPM, and if you send me a mailing address via Peter I will sign it and send it. Been a bit rough of late but I should be mobile again in a couple of weeks and able to meet up and inscribe GKS. No charge for PPM.

  159. Peter
    Please do not misrepresent telemachus
    telemachus views can broadly square with this

    “It is well established that female genital mutilation (FGM) is not required in Muslim law. It is an ancient cultural practice that existed before Islam, Christianity and Judaism. It is also agreed across large swathes of the world that it is barbaric. At the mass ceremony, I ask the foundation’s social welfare secretary, Lukman Hakim, why they do it. His answer not only predates the dawn of religion, it predates human evolution: “It is necessary to control women’s sexual urges,” says Hakim, a stern, bespectacled man in a fez. “They must be chaste to preserve their beauty.”

  160. My beef was always the unhealthy obsession of a few with the topic to the point of accusations of voyeurism
    But worse the use of the topic as a tool of the Islamophobes
    I was pleased when Will Hague promoted the topic into mainstream government strategy

  161. Alexandr
    You too choose to misunderstand
    The repressive aspects of the Honecker regime are best gone
    However before the wall, folks in the East were equal and had self respect
    Now there is gross inequality increasing yearly and in general the population of the old East are treated as second class citizens by the old West
    *
    Nothing is black and white

  164. Noa (21:12)

    I’ll contact you directly and extra-murally (so to speak). Meanwhile click over to Mr Boot’s latest post about UKIP. I found it extremely interesting and much food there for strategic thought.

    It would be interesting to hear what other Wallsters have to say about his analysis and brainstorming in this regard; perhaps a five year plan is indeed better than a five month plan: softee softee catchee monkee …

    Interesting times, but regardless, as Alex muses, “Meanwhile, one has to take aesthetic pleasure in watching our governing spivs scampering around like cockroaches in a tightly shut.”

    Wonderful!

  167. Frank P
    12/10 1323
    Interesting to peruse the archives on your oft visited topic of trolls:

    Frank P
    February 21st, 2012 – 14:00

    On trolls: Surely the main complaint that persisted over the our previous playground at the Speccie, was the glitch in software that resulted in the comment box refusing a large proportion of submitted comments and the frequent delay (or out of sync appearance) of comments that did make the cut. On a personal note, I did NOT find that many of my comments were ‘moderated’ (surprisingly so sometimes, because I do often resort to scatology in attempting to amuse). Some of my comments were later removed, I suspect, after a complaint to the moderator from whoever was the target of the comment. Fair enough – the effect had already been felt – so WTF?. I quite enjoyed the exchanges between the trolls and, for example, Nicholas; they gave him the opportunity to construct a devastating critique of Agitprops messages and motives. I’m just sad that those posts are no longer available for our reference. If he kept them in his own files, perhaps he could collate them and ask Pete to have a link on the New Coffee House sidebar, so that we have access to them for our own satisfaction or to quote if appropriate? The same for anyone else that feels that they waxed fluent on matters of the moment in an original way.

    So should Peter from Maidstone allow the ‘trolls’ to comment here? My opinion is – leave it to his discretion. If he allows some of them through, then he must expect, of course, that the full power of the Big Berthas in our armoury will be turned on them (with the bounds of legal considerations). But we must allow him to moderate if he feels in anyway vulnerable to legal sanctions – either as a result of troll posts or the responses. Is that fair?

    If the trolls want to chance their arm in this arena – bring it on, says I. Particularly as there is no longer a Guardian reader moderating our efforts. Those of us who wish to engage can, the rest of us have a scroll key – which can sometimes be more effective: as we often point out – replying to trolls often provides them with the oxygen that keeps Agitprop breathing. while ignoring their crap deflates their egos. But we run the risk of merely becoming part of the blandosphere if we only indulge in mutual reinforcement of similar political views. We need a little grist to the mill; surely we can handle the usual suspects, can’t we? Particularly if, as I strongly suspect, one particularly obnoxious bubble and squeak is the author of most of the guff that emanates from the pro-Marxist, pro-Islamist faction, who seems to have a hard on for the regular crew that contributed most to old CH site and, happily, have now migrated to this one. A little bird told me that something is afoot to spike the guns of that particular inimical imp.

    That’s my two penn’orth, FWIW.

    I would also repeat, as I have done so often along with others here, that Pete Hoskin, the Speccy blog obermeister was not the problem. He tried very hard but I suspect he lacked the resources and personal support necessary to make that project function efficiently. I have much less time for his editor or those who pull Nelson’s strings.

  168. The oxygen bottle just clicked to ’empty’, Tele. Try the bigger one over at Trolltopia.

  169. Farage must be delighted. He has two ex-editors of the Speccy and the current one all heavily exercised this weekend in prolix bollix about Nige’s outfit and the patrons it is attracting – not to mention the stupidity of the UKIP voters.

    W’Ancona’s contribution in the DTel had me ROTFLMAO. Ethereal voices from Mount Olympus:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/11155322/Its-time-to-fight-back-against-Ukips-fear-driven-agenda.html

    What a pontificating. condescending, sneering, fat prig he is. Good – more votes for Nigel! Keep it up chaps. I’m beginning to suspect that the Barclay Brothers are closet UKIP supporters. Their hacks couldn’t be doing a better job for the ‘kippers if they tried. Bwaaahahahahaha!

  170. Frank P, @02:08

    The weasels are getting nervous, Frank.

    Over at The Times, Matthew Parris thinks that the electorate should be re-educated – bent to the will of the “professional” political classes!

    “Voters, not the politicians, are out of touch”

    http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/columnists/article4233442.ece

    MP’s civil partner is CMD’s chief speech writer. Is this the latest NLP thought that is helping CMD to sleep at night, I wonder.

  171. EC

    “Those who lead the country into the abyss
    Call ruling too difficult
    For ordinary men.”

    “Some party hack decreed that the people
    had lost the government’s confidence
    and could only regain it with redoubled effort.
    If that is the case, would it not be simpler,
    If the government simply dissolved the people
    And elected another?”

    (B. Brecht).

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