The Coffee House Wall – 7th/13th July

Posted on July 7, 2014

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107 thoughts on “The Coffee House Wall – 7th/13th July”

  2. alexsandr @ 12:00

    This shifting of the blame, alexandr, is as good as one offered by another group of jihadists some time ago. They blamed the victim saying ‘we wouldn’t have killed him if he were not born’. No joke this, it was a quote, it got posted on the Gates of Vienna site.

  3. This is the last apology for the many errors, omissions, bad spelling and stuff that appear in Baron’s postings. However much he wants to avoid them he cannot. They creep in, often in the apology postings, too. You have to either forgive the poorly educated Slav or skip his musings, but from now on, Baron will just do as he’s done mostly up to now, just type and hope it’s OK, and no apologies.

    And this

    Chicago ranks 8th on the severity of laws on gun ownership (Cal tops it), and just as well, imaginewhat would the toll have been if the laws in Illinois were as liberal as in, say, Texas.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-fourth-of-july-toll-82-shot-14-of-them-fatally-in-chicago-20140707,0,5439185.story

  4. Malfleur @ 23:45

    Wrong end of the stick, Malfleur. One should co-operate, in the past the unwashed did co-operate with the bobbies on the beat, other officers of the law, the additional police manpower we have to put up today should make no difference, but only if the questioning is reasonable, merits whatever the actual incident requires.

    Being asked what company or whom Baron wants to visit is reasonable, the guard’s pretending not to understand the abbreviated name of the company tipped it beyond the reasonable, his accusing the barbarian of racism hoisted the event into the realm of the unbelievable. It only showed what the PC idiocy could and does produce – little Adolfs, people who wouldn’t have been empowered to boss others around if sanity and common sense still prevailed.

  5. Gay marriage is not legal in Northern Ireland, but there is trouble ahead:

    Bert and Ernie gay marriage cake leaves Christian bakery facing court threat

    “Christian bakery facing legal action from equality quango for refusing to make cake with Sesame Street characters saying ‘support gay marriage’

    “Colin Hart, chief executive of the Christian Institute, said: “This is a sign of things to come exactly as we predicted.
    “The Government repeatedly failed to listen to members of the public, lawyers, constitutional experts even its own MPs when they called for safeguards to protect those who back traditional marriage, especially those who work in the public sector.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10952494/Bert-and-Ernie-gay-marriage-cake-leaves-Christian-bakery-facing-court-threat.html

  6. Baron
    Use Word to type your posts into, and let it check the grammar and spelling. When you are happy then you can copy and pasts into here. But my spelling and grammar is frequently bad because I dont proof read. so really, i would not worry about it

  7. stephen maybery @ 16:18

    Your sans culotte fearlessness and daring character does you justice, stephen, the barbarian almost always avoids confrontation, seeks compromise, bids to calm things down, and for good reason, too. When truly angered, the barbarian is hard to match in verbal onslaught. He goes wild, no stopping him.

    In the case he described this wasn’t an avenue to travel on, the friend may have been drawn in, also his company. It may sound as an excuse, it isn’t. Baron still mulls it over when falling asleep, not so much because he was pushed around, but because of the wider implications. One would expect the hoi polloi to still keep their common sense, kind of ‘we are force fed the the PC idiocy that sees racism in a handful of dust, let’s pretend we follow it, but ….’.

  8. alexsandr @ 20:52

    Good advice, alexandr, except that it introduces few more steps into the process, and Baron aims for the fastest route. The thing is time, the barbarian often wonders how he managed whne he had a job. Now, retired, he seems to have no time for anything.

  9. RobertC @ 20:35

    That, Robert, is small beer compared to what we are going to see in the years ahead. The gay lobby will take on the Church, and win as predicted by Baron years ago. The hope is Ukip will re-dust the gay marriage backing of the boy and his party for the next year’s election, score points, and more importantly votes, from it.

  10. Baron

    They are not “officers of the law” and neither for that matter are the gropers in the TSA in the USA. They are not sworn.

  11. Government Data Show U.S. in Decade-Long Cooling
    “The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s most accurate, up-to-date temperature data confirm the United States has been cooling for at least the past decade. The NOAA temperature data are driving a stake through the heart of alarmists claiming accelerating global warming.

    … the United States has cooled by approximately 0.4 degrees Celsius, which is more than half of the claimed global warming of the twentieth century.”

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2014/06/25/government-data-show-u-s-in-decade-long-cooling/

    Ha, ha, ha!

    And who wanted the ‘2008 Climate Change Act’ Ed Miliband as PM?

  12. By the way, sworn or not, I would think that these jobs-worths asking what you had for breakfast would also be reasonable as more likely to sniff out a terrorist than wanting to know what company you were intending to visit.

    “A bacon sandwich, sir’.
    “Very good, in you go.”

    But surely,Baron, you know that this is all about control, not about catching muslim terrorists? “It is a mistake to suppose that the whole issue is how to free man. The issue is to improve the way in which he is controlled”

    Oh, but I suppose you didn’t have copies of Beyond Freedom and Dignity available in the 1970s.

  16. I have to announce a death in the family. Mickey d’ mouse. I got put of bed yesterday and there he was on the carpet, dead as a door nail poor little beggar. I thought it would be nice to put him in a window box where he could rest amongst flowers. Unfortunately I do not have a window box, so I flushed him down the bog instead. Well, it’s the thought that counts innit.

  17. A disturbing report in this morning’s Mail. Social workers again, not forgetting the Court of Protection. A lady collapsed in a supermarket then suffered a stroke, her husband wants to take her home and care for her himself. They had made a pact that if ever misfortune befell them, they would not go into a home. Naturally, the experts decided differently and the 82 year old husband if fighting to take his beloved to their home, not an institution. Fat chance of him achieving that. Authority has spoken and that is that.

    I have a particular interest in this. On Friday afternoon I collapsed in the street (as one does), the kindness and concern shown to me went a way to restoring my faith in human nature, but I can not but think what might happen a few years down the line if those bloody do gooders got wind of my situation. At the moment I am fine, I may be physically feeble, but my brain is still fully geared up. Ten minutes on the receiving end of my gob and any social worker would take to the hills. However we can not predict the future, and perhaps that is just as well.

  18. Malfleur @ 23:34

    That’s a good point, Mafleur, but it changes nothing. There are there wiht the approval of the law to ensure safety. Baron doesn’t like it, he would prefer a different solution to maintaining peace in the community, alas it ain’t doable in a society of deluded pseudo-liberal progressives. Still, that’s life, one has to get over it, wait for a chance to have one back.

    And you’re right, it isn’t about catching terrorists, but the way to change it is not to have a shouting match with a brainless cog. Only the ballot box can do it, if we we want to live in a civilised society governed by laws.

  19. stephen maybery @ 11:10

    You have Baron’s backing all the way, stephen, he carries a small can of glycerin trinitrate spray in case his heart gives up again, but worries seldom about the process of dying, the chance of being incarcerated in an institution, God forbid, death…. What would be the point?

    Also, if your body casket is only half as good as your brain, you should be looking forward to eating at least a 100th birthday cake. Just keep breathing for breathing is the secret of longevity. One stops breathing one’s gone.

  20. We are told that the defence team for Oscar Pistorius has closed its case in the athlete’s murder trial, and that the final arguments for the case are scheduled for 7-8 August, after which the judge will spend a number of weeks preparing her verdict.

    Why does the judge need a number of weeks to make a decision?

  21. stephen maybery July 8th, 2014 – 11:10

    “Ten minutes on the receiving end of my gob and any social worker would take to the hills”

    Stephen, your post reminded me of an occasion years ago, I was visiting my elderly father in hospital (a widower who lived alone) when our conversation was interrupted by a strikingly beautiful but pushy black woman, who called dad by his Christian name and told him that she was going to arrange for him free home help.

    Dad thanked her politely but declined her offer, she persisted, calling him George whilst telling him he was entitled to have help round the house and with his shopping all for free.

    My father did not get angry, he merely pointed out the income that he enjoyed and asked, are you sure it is all for free, she then turned tail and quickly left us in peace.

  22. David Ossit,
    David your dad is definitely a man after my own heart. The trouble with these people is that they do not listen, correction, they do not know how to. The sooner they are excised from our national life the better. When I was a lad nobody had ever heard of a social worker, let alone met one, and I must say we were none the worse for that glaring omission in our lives.

    Baron,
    Thanks for your words of encouragement, yes, I will do my damnedest to reach the century. I cannot but see the funny side of things, when they were picking me up off the deck they were probably thinking “The old sod must have been on the sauce, and at this time of the day to. Really”.

  24. We were queuing to pay for our purchases at a large Waitrose this afternoon when I witnessed an act that some might call racist.

    There were two ahead of us at this particular till and I had not taken any note of the cashier but had noticed behind me a Muslim young woman with only her forehead, nose and top lip not swathed in the scarves that she was wearing.

    When I did notice the cashier I found that she was a young beautiful Indian girl with a magnificent head of hair, bright, cheerful and utterly charming, I glanced back, the head covered one had switched to the next much longer queue, the only reason must have been that she did not want to be served by one who has melded into our society.

  25. David Ossit,
    David, it is more than likely she was consumed with jealousy, triggered in no small measure by the lust that was undoubtedly plastered over your face. Control yourself lad, at least when in the queue at Waitrose. Failing that try the co-op, they’re all dogs down there, and as a bonus you’d probably bump into Telemachus.

  26. This is good:

    Sheriff Arpaio, Marocopa County US: A liberal paradise would be a place where everyone has a guaranteed job, free healthcare, free education, free food, free clothing, doesn’t have to pay any utility bills, and only law enforcement personnel is armed.

    Believe it ornot, such a place already exists, it’s called prison.

  27. stephen maybery@July 8th, 2014 – 20:09

    i have found the girls working in witrose to be prettier then in tesco!

  30. Computer has crashed and hard to use stylus, Harriet Hartman is shameless and arrogant. She says brown did not make her deputy prime minister as she is female. Well, brown may be mad but not completely bonkers, Hartman was not selected as she and her husband support kiddie fiddlers.

  31. Anne wotana Kaye

    Wallsters may find tiresome my respect for one or two of my less politically correct sources of encouragement, perspective and information I don’t usually participate in the kiddie fiddler debate. Today though I listened to an affecting broadcast on Monday by the American talk show host, Michael Savage. I have mentioned on previous occasions that Dr. Savage has been banned from entry into the United Kingdom by two successive Home Secretaries for no good reason.

    He is concerned at the trend toward normalisation of paedophilia. He devotes a good part of his show to those who were molested when they were children. He invites them to call in. Some do.

    The nearest I came personally to these traumatic experiences was many, many years ago when a senior member of Chelmsford Cathedral choir said that I had lovely ears. I was lucky. Michael Savage’s Monday show brings to life what is at stake and puts in a new light the trafficking of children by the tens of thousands from South America, the Middle East and China into the United States across the California and Texas border left open deliberately by the criminal president of the United States.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKKVnePqOiI

    Meanwhile, I understand from reports in the newsapers in England that British royalty may be implicated in paedophile rings.

  32. AWK 9th, – 11:43

    Perhaps he had some self-knowledge after all, and realised that she is madder than he.

  35. No one has made comment that I have seen, that the crowds enjoying the Tour de France were hideously white ( as the BBC might say )
    ThAnk god I say, a wonderfull expression of Englishness that made me feel proud.
    My wife and I often stop at the fox pub for a drink on Sundays and to see it overwhelmed by people enjoying themselves watching the race made my day.
    England as it should be.

  37. Stepping in front of a train, the alternative to
    Care home bills and indignity .

  39. John birch@July 9th, 2014 – 17:52

    i had a relative in a care home She had dignity and they looked after her really well, right to the end.
    OK it was pricey but she and her late husband saved for their old age.
    Not all care homes are naff.

  40. Alexandr,
    I agree, not all care homes are bad, at the end of the day you gets what you pays for. Speaking for myself, I could not imagine a worse fate, I am fiercely independent. something I value above all else, for me to go into such an institution would be a death sentence, besides which I can not imagine that anybody would put up with me

  41. I see the French have avoided some cultural enrichment:

    Islamist plot to blow up Eiffel Tower, Louvre and nuclear power plant foiled, say French police

    French police stumbled on terror plans after decrypting coded messages between Algerian butcher living in southern France and high-ranking members of al-Qaeda in the Maghreb

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/10956636/Islamist-plot-to-blow-up-Eiffel-Tower-Louvre-and-nuclear-power-plant-foiled-say-French-police.html

  43. John birch 9th, – 17:52

    Fortunately I have a way of ending it that won’t traumatise an innocent train driver.

  45. Alex Jones and his English reporter, Paul Joseph Watson, are saying that the Heartbleed virus is a false flag operation to serves as the pretext for introducing legislation to repress the freedom of the internet (e.g. this site). Anyone have any information on this?

  46. Ostrich (occasionally)
    July 9th, 2014 – 23:49

    It must be on drivers minds all the time because it’s happening so frequently now.
    I remember reading a drivers account of a young guy who watched the train as it hit him. He had eye contact with the driver to the bitter end.
    The driver said he couldent get the guys face out of his mind.
    Poor driver.
    My comment was made over the old couple in Lincolnshire who stood together .
    That poor driver had his horn on for a long time as he approached them.
    Very sad for all concerned. Driver , clean up teams , family’s .

  47. Malfleur, I am sure that some viruses are put out there by anti-virus companies to keep the business going. And I am sure that some viruses are nation state originated. But I don’t see how this particular bug could be a false flag, because it was a weakness in the software which was being taken advantage of by hackers rather than software they had created. I don’t see how it could be a false flag because I am not aware of any governmental activity to deal with it – and it can only be dealt with by telling people to make sure they use the latest versions of software. This site doesn’t use SSL, it’s not secure in that way because there is nothing to secure in the data that is being transmitted. The US Government can already see what it wants and if people wanted real security they would use the TOR browser, and proxy servers and IP addresses etc etc.

  48. Cameron refuses to exempt people of Christian conscience from the right to refuse service to they who they disapprove of, specifically those of the happy persuasion. The obduracy of this petulant little nobody is staggering, truly the man is the tool of the homosexual proselytisers. If you own a business, then you have an absolute right to refuse service to whomsoever you please. You have a right to say what you like about whatsoever you like to whomsoever you like. This is part of that unspoken but thoroughly understood compact between the rulers and the ruled in this country. unfortunately the wizards of Westminster are disinclined to recognise this truism.

    These conventions and the laws which enshrine them in the fabric of the nation are being ruthlessly negated by the metropolitan intelligentsia, which over the last sixty years has insinuated itself into the seats of power and turned this country into what it thinks it should be and not what the inhabitants want it to be. I sincerely believe that if UKIP do not do exceptional well at the next election we can wave goodbye to the little which is left of our freedoms and traditions. The overwhelming tragedy here is that most people after half a century of “progressive” education have not the slightest inkling of what has been so ruthlessly stolen from them, but they do know a hell of a lot about Nelson Mandela.

  50. And now for something completely different.

    This is a small selection of corrupt Russian lawmakers. Two are members of the Russian communist party, one of a merged Green and Social Democratic outfit, one of Putin’s own party, one is SR party (whatever it is). One of the charged communist deputies (third picture from the top of the piece) was trying to flog a guaranteed place in the legislature for Euro7.5mn (it’s a proportional representation system based on a list of candidates, the higher a name sits on the list the greater the chance he or she will get in), quite a big sum of money, and not only in Russia, he got 5 years for it, his lawyers are appealing.

    http://www.aif.ru/politics/russia/1205997

  51. stephen maybery @ 11:14

    Quite, stephen, for the progressives equality trumps all, it cannot be long before a pair of them decide to marry in church, the Roman Catholic church, the religious institution says ‘no’, the gays go to the law, win.

    Did Baron tell you he was once refused service by an outfit repairing leather goods? After he retired the barbarian put up abit of weight, couldn’t get into a pair of leather jeans for biking. A friend suggested a north London outfit that could make the jeans wearable again, Baron called the number, everything got arranged, then the guy asked ‘are you gay’. When the question hit Baron’s ears he thought it was a joke, a kind of wisecrack, prank, frolicking by the man with whom before then Baron enjoyed abit of a banter on account of Baron’s fatness. ‘Don’t tell me one has to be gay for you to do the repair’, Baron said. ‘Yup’, said the man and hung up.

    Baron wasn’t pleased about it as you may imagine, it wasn’t (it still isn’t) easy to find anyone repairing leather stuff, but the one thing that didn’t cross the barbarian’s mind was to pick the phone, call the police, accuse the man of breaking some ‘equality shibboleth’.

  52. On a very different note, if anyone has a copy of The Islamic Republic of dewsbury by Danny Lockwood they don’t want they may be interested to know that on Amazon there are no new copies available and the only second hand copy is for sale at £399.00.
    I had been meaning to get this book for a while and last week when I put a group of books together to buy I was amazed by the prices being asked for this paperback .
    Some shops were asking normal prices but some were over £200 for used copies.
    Obviously there is suddenly a demand for books like this.
    Time for a new production run.

  54. That’s odd Peter. Just gone back and checked and it’s still the only copy from kite books showing up on my phone.
    Still , whatever , time for a new print run.
    I only just found out my wife has it on her kindle. !!!!

  55. Here is an interesting article about the aggressiveness of a prominent section of the homosexual community:
    L’Etat, C’est Gay
    http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/letat_cest_gay_taking_the_new_sexual_fascism_seriously.html

    The article has a link to an even more interesting article written by a man who was brought up by a couple of lesbians but has managed to untangle some of the confusion that it caused, though the aggressiveness of the aforementioned group is even more harmful to him:
    Growing Up With Two Moms: The Untold Children’s View
    http://www.thepublicdiscourse.com/2012/08/6065/

  56. Today our thoughts turn to Europe.
    And just who should represent us in Brussells.
    The Spectator seems to be rooting for Michael Howard.
    What we all however need to know is just what something of the night we need to think about.
    And of course he even a fortnight ago did not adequately tell Paxman whether he threatened.

  57. Baron,
    I howled at your last posting, of course if the boot had been on the other foot you would have had plod battering on your door. Still one must see the funny side of things. Had I been in your shoes, I would have gone up to North London and given the joker a damn good leathering.

  59. Here is a way how the country can overcome any animosity between the indigenous Christian burghers and the followers of Allah, we all convert to Islam. This is what two of the judge’s siblings did, then they married Muslims.

    It didn’t occur to the learned mind who was proud to cite it that the other way there was no conversion, it was all into Islam. If one of the Muslims who married into his family converted to Christianity, them married, it would have been fair, equitable, unbiased. The way it was only underpins Baron’s notion that it’s our deluded Quislings who give up on the culture that made us, submit to a creed that has no place in a modern, secular society.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/487577/We-should-encourage-Christians-to-marry-Muslims-to-tackle-Islamophobia-says-peer

  60. RobertC @ 18:08

    Most of us (97% or so) are heterosexual, it’s therefore more than likely the majority of kids raised in non-heterosexual families will also be heterosexual. If they don’t like the fact they have been brought up in such unions what then? Who is to sort it out, and how? Who speaks on their behalf when they are too young to be heard?

  62. What you won’t read in the Daily Mail.

    Lord Greville Janner,QC,(Labour) is 86 today.He was an MP for Leicester till 1997 when he was succeeded by Patricia Hewitt (ex director of NCCL–now renamed Liberty under Shami Chakrabatti (?)–and,hence, employer of Harriet Harman).

    He lives in a flat variously described as in Golders Green/Barnet/West Hampstead.This was raided by the police last December.The DM,22June,reports his office in the House of Lords was raided by the Leicester police and computer equipment taken away.

    It is reported a file is being prepared for the CPS although he is,reportedly,in bad health;possibly suffering from dementia.

    (His hobby is reportedly conjuring and he is a member of the Magic Circle.It is said in younger days he used to volunteer to entertain in children’s homes.)

  63. Stephen Mayberry 20.43

    Thanks for the link Stephen .
    Even stranger results.
    Cheapest is Waterstones £14.95 new.
    Most expensive 3
    Amazon Ca new £24.49
    Amazon uk used £399
    Amazon USA new £1,363.21 !!!!!!
    In $ that’s $2,321..21 + shipping.

  70. “Egyptian Cleric: Muslim Brotherhood Authorizes ‘Anal Jihad’ for Lonely Terrorists” (Breitbart)

    That’s a relief.

  71. Baron

    – Sorry, just saw you had posted that about jihad. I began my Wall day by scrolling up instead of down.

  74. Umper,umper.Stick it up your Juncker!

    Nigel meets Jean-Claude.

    On Wednesday the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy(EFDD) Group in the European Parliament–lead by UKIP–had a question and answer session with President-elect J-P Juncker.

    There is a one hour,eight minute video (below).

    Juncker said open borders are non-negotiable and free movement of workers is a fundamental right.Also:Rompuy and Barroso are right that an independent Scotland will not automatically be part of the EU.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDR4XdBhpwY

  75. Radford NG@July 12th, 2014 – 00:39

    so what is cameron actually going to negotiate when these red lines are already drawn? He is a prime chump IMHO

  76. Baron,
    Thanks for the link. Nothing new there, we have all known about what is going on here for donkey’s years, and despair of anything being done about it. As for the trendies who patronise the bars and bagel shops (they are damn good bagels by the way), they will still be mouthing their multi culti platitudes when the brothers come to cut their throats, and may God help us.

    I feel a certain sadness in all this, my second title was written between 2004/2006. Much of what is happening throughout the country was predicted there, and it is all happening. Many a true word spoken in jest.

  77. Malfleur,
    You couldn’t make it up. The sods of Allah encouraged to go in for a bit of sodomy. That explains why so many young men are flocking to Syria to be tools for Allah. Somebody should explain to them that they do not have to go to the Middle East to bugger each other blind, there are plenty of accommodating places in Soho, not to mention Hampstead Heath, and you will not be blown away for your sins.

  78. stephen maybery 12th, – 08:53

    Aye, pick the right MP and you’ll get well paid for it too!

  79. Alexsandr 12th, – 08:11

    What makes you think he’s going to tell YOU?

  80. And talking of religious corruption, I see that the Christian churches in Texas and elsewhere are now collaborating with the US government to aid and abet the smuggling of tens of thousands of illegal aliens into America. Anal jihad Christian-style.They do like it up ’em.

  81. Ostrich (O),
    Quite right O, look at Norman Scott. As for this inquiry into the frolics of our lords and masters, I’ll know it is serious if they finger the late and entirely unlamented Red Ted, if not we’ll know it is another whitewash.

  82. If this were July 1941 and you saw the USA move to an alliance with Germany, would you feel a little uneasy and have to make yourself a cup of tea?

  83. Our masterful leaders have now managed to manoeuvre us into facing an alliance of China, Russia and Germany!

  84. More than half of all foreign criminals caught in the UK have a right to stay that prevents them being deported, Britain’s top police officer said yesterday.
    Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe warned that the criminal justice system is not adapting quickly enough to cope with the impact of immigration.
    A third of crimes in London are committed by foreign offenders, the Met chief said. But the majority are EU citizens who may have the freedom to travel between and live in all member states.

    http://dailym.ai/W5iLoo

  85. If the United States implodes and descends into civil war, or is brought under martial law, and is unable to honour its overseas commitments to a greater or lesser extent, what is Plan B for the foreign policy of the United Kingdom?

    Do we care?

    Whatever.

  86. John birch

    And they will figure out how to lodge a postal vote for either the Tweedledum or Tweedledee party both dedicated to our subservience to the drunk in Brussels and his puppeteers.

  87. Malfleur @ 11:04

    It will come to it, Malfleur, Baron has said it before, when the EUSSR falls apart the Germans will join up with the Russians.

    Historically, the links the Russians have established were with the French for the top of the royalty pyramid (language, etiquette, fashion, ggambling), but mostly with the Germans for everything else. The influx of Germans into the lands of the Russian Slavs goes back to the 17th century, over the following decades many have settled near Volga, Vistula rivers, in the Crimea, other places, millions of Germans lived there, did well in the civil service, military, industry, commerce.

    One of Russian’s famous rulers, Catherine the Great was of German descend (she was born not that far from Baron’s birthplace), many top Soviet military commanders exterminated by the Georgian thug trained in Germany in the early 30s, Germans are one of the top five minorities in today’s Russia numbering over 2mn …

    There is a strong similarity in the make-up of the two races, both like discipline, order, prefer strong leadership, can suffer for an idea (Nazism, Communism) far more than other European races, it would be more natural for the Huns to link up with the Slavs of Russia than the current European set-up, and join they will, Baron reckons.

  89. Baron,
    A very perceptive post. I think you are right, when the EU finally goes tits up Russia will have nowhere else to go other than Russia. And why not? The Romanovs were more German than Russian, that was a successful liaison, especially when little Sophie of Anhalt-Zerbst ascended the Russian throne. OK, she had to bump her old man off to achieve that, but why go nit picking, the results were fantastic.

  90. Baron,
    Sorry, first line of last post should have read, Germany will have nowhere to go. By the way, Catherine did a great job with them Potemkin villages, we could do with a few of them over here, ideal for all those Romanian gypos who apparently we are powerless to prevent coming here.

  91. Baron
    13:03

    The only upside to that alliance that I can see is that the Germans will stiffen Russian opposition to the demographic take-over by muslims and protect Siberia from Chinese encroachment once the Shanghai Cooperation Agreement breaks down – which should keep both Germany and Russian busy fior a hundred years ago or so that we can return to developing the arts of civilisation so rudely interrupted since 18 January 1871.

    By the way, has anyone been following the line taken by Standpoint magazine on the Ukrainian situation?

  92. stephen maybery @ 15:26

    Good point, stephen, in a sense their peaceful takeover of Europe will fail as the EU disintegrates (as did Adolf’s half hearted takeover of the Albion, the rest of the Old Continent is neither here or there), hence the Frau will turn eastwards (as did the Austrian madman). Will it be the same ending as that of 1945 though? We should be told, don’t you think?

    And another thing:

    Baron puzzled by a sentence in one of your previous posts. What is the ‘second title’ and what is the first for there must have been the first, Baron assumes. Please, tell more.

  93. Malfleur @ 23:46

    Quite, for if history repeats itself it should again fall to the Russians to save Europe for the third time in recent history, this time from the Mandarin speakers moving in from the east. If there is something the poorly educated Slavv regrets it is he won’t be around when the next fight for the right to be a superpower takes place. But perhaps just as well for as Nikita Khrushchev once quipped ‘those who survive the next warring will envy the dead’.

  94. stephen maybery @ 14:44

    You seem to have, perhaps not surprisingly, a more than good knowledge of history of the Russian tribe. Were you by any chance involved in anything to do with these peoples, or is it mere private interest? Whichever it is you may like to read (unless you’ve done so already) a book written by an Oxford scholar some 50 years ago. It’s the ‘The Russian Secret Service’ by Ronald Hingley. Well written for a dusty historian, full of little anecdotic gems, but excellently researched. It’s out of print, but a good library should be able to supply you with a copy.

  95. Malfleur @ 23:46

    On the question of Ukraine, Malfleur, the answer from Baron is ‘no, he hasn’t been following it whether in Standpoint or elsewhere’. Why did you ask?

  96. Baron,
    I have always had a deep interest in Russian history, I was recently in Sakhalin, a great time amongst great people.

    My first title is My Prime Ministers And I, a satire on the Blair government, most of which is based on fact as I had some very good contacts, The second title is God’s Knaves And Scoundrels, this is set fifty years in the future and England is invaded by Iraq to free the people from the tyranny of Prime Minister Leo Blair. The way things are shaping up in Iraq this may not be too far fetched. Again although this is satire there is great deal of fact here. I designed all the concrete used in Saddam’ bunkers and spent two and a half years in Baghdad supervising their construction. Details can be found on my page on http://www.amazon.com I believe you can dip into the books there. The book I am currently working on is a satire on the fashionable religion of anthropogenic climate change, title, Cui Bono?

  97. End of the week – time for a long quotation :

    “William Binney is one of the highest-level whistleblowers to ever emerge from the NSA. He was a leading code-breaker against the Soviet Union during the Cold War but resigned soon after September 11, disgusted by Washington’s move towards mass surveillance.

    On 5 July he spoke at a conference in London organised by the Centre for Investigative Journalism and revealed the extent of the surveillance programs unleashed by the Bush and Obama administrations.

    “At least 80% of fibre-optic cables globally go via the US”, Binney said. “This is no accident and allows the US to view all communication coming in. At least 80% of all audio calls, not just metadata, are recorded and stored in the US. The NSA lies about what it stores.”

    The NSA will soon be able to collect 966 exabytes a year, the total of internet traffic annually. Former Google head Eric Schmidt once argued that the entire amount of knowledge from the beginning of humankind until 2003 amount to only five exabytes.

    Binney, who featured in a 2012 short film by Oscar-nominated US film-maker Laura Poitras, described a future where surveillance is ubiquitous and government intrusion unlimited.

    “The ultimate goal of the NSA is total population control”, Binney said, “but I’m a little optimistic with some recent Supreme Court decisions, such as law enforcement mostly now needing a warrant before searching a smartphone.”

    He praised the revelations and bravery of former NSA contractor Edward Snowden and told me that he had indirect contact with a number of other NSA employees who felt disgusted with the agency’s work. They’re keen to speak out but fear retribution and exile, not unlike Snowden himself, who is likely to remain there for some time.

    Unlike Snowden, Binney didn’t take any documents with him when he left the NSA. He now says that hard evidence of illegal spying would have been invaluable. The latest Snowden leaks, featured in the Washington Post, detail private conversations of average Americans with no connection to extremism.

    It shows that the NSA is not just pursuing terrorism, as it claims, but ordinary citizens going about their daily communications. “The NSA is mass-collecting on everyone”, Binney said, “and it’s said to be about terrorism but inside the US it has stopped zero attacks.”

    The lack of official oversight is one of Binney’s key concerns, particularly of the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (Fisa), which is held out by NSA defenders as a sign of the surveillance scheme’s constitutionality.

    “The Fisa court has only the government’s point of view”, he argued. “There are no other views for the judges to consider. There have been at least 15-20 trillion constitutional violations for US domestic audiences and you can double that globally.”

    A Fisa court in 2010 allowed the NSA to spy on 193 countries around the world, plus the World Bank, though there’s evidence that even the nations the US isn’t supposed to monitor – Five Eyes allies Britain, Canada, Australia and New Zealand – aren’t immune from being spied on. It’s why encryption is today so essential to transmit information safely.

    Binney recently told the German NSA inquiry committee that his former employer had a “totalitarian mentality” that was the “greatest threat” to US society since that country’s US Civil War in the 19th century. Despite this remarkable power, Binney still mocked the NSA’s failures, including missing this year’s Russian intervention in Ukraine and the Islamic State’s take-over of Iraq.

    The era of mass surveillance has gone from the fringes of public debate to the mainstream, where it belongs. The Pew Research Centre released a report this month, Digital Life in 2025, that predicted worsening state control and censorship, reduced public trust, and increased commercialisation of every aspect of web culture.

    It’s not just internet experts warning about the internet’s colonisation by state and corporate power. One of Europe’s leading web creators, Lena Thiele, presented her stunning series Netwars in London on the threat of cyber warfare. She showed how easy it is for governments and corporations to capture our personal information without us even realising.

    Thiele said that the US budget for cyber security was US$67 billion in 2013 and will double by 2016. Much of this money is wasted and doesn’t protect online infrastructure. This fact doesn’t worry the multinationals making a killing from the gross exaggeration of fear that permeates the public domain.

    Wikileaks understands this reality better than most. Founder Julian Assange and investigative editor Sarah Harrison both remain in legal limbo. I spent time with Assange in his current home at the Ecuadorian embassy in London last week, where he continues to work, release leaks, and fight various legal battles. He hopes to resolve his predicament soon.

    At the Centre for Investigative Journalism conference, Harrison stressed the importance of journalists who work with technologists to best report the NSA stories. “It’s no accident”, she said, “that some of the best stories on the NSA are in Germany, where there’s technical assistance from people like Jacob Appelbaum.”

    A core Wikileaks belief, she stressed, is releasing all documents in their entirety, something the group criticised the news site The Intercept for not doing on a recent story. “The full archive should always be published”, Harrison said.

    With 8m documents on its website after years of leaking, the importance of publishing and maintaining source documents for the media, general public and court cases can’t be under-estimated. “I see Wikileaks as a library”, Assange said. “We’re the librarians who can’t say no.”

    With evidence that there could be a second NSA leaker, the time for more aggressive reporting is now. As Binney said: “I call people who are covering up NSA crimes traitors”.

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-11/nsa-whistleblower-speaks-ultimate-goal-total-population-control

  98. We have had many aspects of our vibrant enrichment discussed in the media, such as ‘arranged’ marriages, ‘honour’ killings, ‘grooming’, FGM and hiding under black hoods in order to remain ‘separate’ or to avoid arrest after robbing a bank, but I have just come across a subject that is just beyond belief. Well, it would have been beyond belief forty years ago!

    The practice is Mufa’khathat. Has anyone come across it or even heard it being discussed, either abroad or here? It does appear to be a 1400 year old custom from the Middle East which, some would say, really is a coincidence.

  99. RoberC,
    I have been around a bit, especially the Middle East, but I have never come across this depravity, it is enough to make a body throw up, and do not bet the farm that it does not happen here. Amongst the educated, I would say not, but the majority of Muslims who arrive on our shores are ignorant peasants who have brought their base tribal practices with them. The PC brigade preach that all cultures are equal, can they really be so stupidly blind? No Robert do not answer that, you’ll only upset yourself.

  100. stephen maybery – 17:11
    Just because there is a word for it, it must have some presence, somewhere, at some time, in the past at least. What is of concern is that, when a culture is supposed to be timeless, the fact that it is in the past should not mean that the practice has faded.

    When you hear of the recent reports of historic sexual offence trials, how far should one take it?

  102. stephen maybery @ 01:13

    How come, stephen, you’ve never let be be known you have a couple of books published, another in the pipeline. Modesty, Baron reckons, but you’ve obviously haven’t heard Lady Mary Wortley Montagu talking: “No modest man ever did or ever will make a fortune’.

    Still, Baron has bought your first tome, is looking forward to enjoying it. The second book must be out of print, Amazon doesn’t list it under your name. Is there another seller that may have it? Baron’s life is kindle free.

    More after the final.

  103. Baron,
    I hope you enjoy PPM, which is how I always refer to Prime ministers. I get the impression you have purchased from amazon uk. GKS is carried by amazon.com I did not publish in England, people praised it then said it was too controversial, the same in the States therefore I put it out on amazon.com Let me know when it comes and I will give you some info. One of the characters has been in the news in the past few days for doing what I said he did in the book, talk about the powers of prediction.

    Not modesty Baron but embarrassment at the thought of spouting off in public. Lady Mary was a fantastic character and she was damned right about making a fortune. If you order from the States it only takes a week. If you would like the book signed then let me know and we could meet in Selfridges, the coffee’s OK and the ice cream fantastic.

    There was a very interesting revue in this weeks Speccie, The last Empire: The Final Days Of The Soviet Union. By Serhii Plokii. Sounds promising and I will order it.

  104. alexsandr – 19:09

    Too much said, or is it not enough said?

    As the Butler-Sloss inquiry has started, I would have thought that, as a part of their work, this cultural aspect should be ‘clarified’. We don’t want, in ten years time, to be surprised that it has been happening in Britain, just as other enriching cultural activities have done.

  106. RobertC

    You asked the question – here is the answer, from a senior Muslim Cleric. Perhaps the question that should be asked is “Why do we allow sub-humans to practise their vile cult in the civilised world?”

    PEDOPHILIA LAWS FROM ISLAMIC-FATWA.NET

    Question 1809

    After the permanent committee for the scientific research and fatwahs (religious decrees) reviewed the question forwarded by the grand scholar of the committee with reference number 1809 issued on 3/5/1453 and 7/5/1421 (Islamic calendar)

    Question: ‘It has become widespread these days, and especially during weddings, the habit of mufa’khathat of the children. (mufa’khathat – literally translated, it means “placing between the thighs” which means placing the male member between the thighs of a child) What is the opinion of scholars, knowing full well that the prophet, the peace of Allah be upon him, also practiced the “thighing” of Aisha – the mother of believers – may Allah be pleased with her.’

    Answer: After studying the issue, the committee has answered as follows:

    As for the prophet, thighing his fiancée Aisha when she was six years of age and not able to consummate the relationship due to her small age. That is why the Prophet used to place his male member between her thighs and massage it, as the prophet had control of his male member not like other men.

    Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, The Supreme Leader of Iran, the Shia Grand Ayatollah, 1979-89 said in his official statements:

    “A man can quench his sexual lusts with a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. Sodomizing the baby is halal (allowed by sharia). If the man penetrates and damages the child, then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however, does not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister. It is better for a girl to marry when her menstruation starts, and at her husband’s house rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven.”

    Khomeini, “Tahrirolvasyleh” fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom, Iran, 1990

    “It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her.”

    Ayatu Allah Al Khumaini’s “Tahrir Al wasila” p. 241, issue number 12

    “Young boys or girls in full sexual effervescence are kept from getting married before they reach the legal age of majority. This is against the intention of divine laws. Why should the marriage of pubescent girls and boys be forbidden because they are still minors, when they are allowed to listen to the radio and to sexually arousing music?”

    “The Little Green Book” “Sayings of the Ayatollah Khomeini”, Bantam Books

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